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Pakistan v New Zealand | 2nd ODI | Sharjah | December 12, 2014 | New Zealand Innings

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and would you except junaid khan/ saeed ajmal/irfan/gul/ etc to score a handy 15-20 runs considering out batsman NEVER turn up?

I would go with Afridi at 8 and then 3 more bowlers plus hafeez and haris.

I think Wahab/Gul are decent for Number 9 and dont think we should be expecting anything from 10 and 11.

The problem arises with the Hafeez situation- which we need resolved positively.

I don't disagree that our bowlers aren't great but I do think that Junaid is better than Wahab. But again when he was fit he didnt use to play game in game out?!?!

Irfan and Junaid are good- Gul and Wahab are on/off
 
I feel this quote sums up about Wahab riaz
"It’s not just about pace but also about discipline" : Waqar Younis
 
The fact that Junaid, Irfan and Wahab are considered as our three premier pacers today goes to show how awful our bowling resources are at the moment.
 
I'll say it again. makes no difference who you choose.... every pakistani bowler is just the same... very average!!! juanid, gul, wahab, irfan... all very average... maybe irfan slightly better than the rest and tanvir below the others... but allllll tooo average!



Irfan is not an average bowler at all. You should know since you have played cricket at a good level.
 
I opted out of a family dinner for this match and gave up a chance to see my crush. :mv
 
Pakistan's hope (in the absence of wickets) is to slow down run rate to put some pressure on later order. Right now, both tasks difficult. New Zealand is a revelation on this tour.
 
I opted out of a family dinner for this match and gave up a chance to see my crush. :mv

I have work tomorrow it's 1 am in China and I don't know why I am still thinking Pakistan will win this :26:
 
That's it, I am off to playing Pacman now. Fill me in tomorrow on who got phantified the most since clearly I will not see cricinfo today.
 
I think I'll stay for a while though.........WTH is going one, just when I was about to shut off the stream :69:
 
Interesting because I thought you were one of his main advocates?

He's one of our premier bowlers, but he's not top drawer. Neither are Irfan and Junaid.

Wahab is better than the likes of Gul, Talha, Asad, Tanvir etc. who were playing ahead of him much to my annoyance.

He'll give you a few hostile spells here and there, pick some wickets but that's it. Anymore expectations and it will yield disappointment only.

Personally I'm not convinced that Junaid and Irfan are much better than him. They are all decent at best.

I have no faith in our fast bowling resources. None whatsoever, as far as their potential to be world class both individually and collectively is concerned.
 
I think I'll stay for a while though.........WTH is going one, just when I was about to shut off the stream :69:

Lol same.

NZ have made the match somewhat interesting.

Now only if we had a 5th bowler :S and Wahab is having off day.
 
What a rubbish attitude from this batsman. OK, it was not your fault, but calm down man, you have the captain at the other end after all and hundreds before you have been run out like this. If I was captain of this team, I would have benched him next match, just because of his reactios there!
 
Pakistan cricket is going to be finished in 15-20 years like hockey.

The future generations won't care about it.
 
Want to improve your ODI ranking?

Arrange a series with Pakistan in UAE.
 
How many ODI series will Misbah lose at home?

:ibutt would have sent him packing years ago. We have been way too much patient with him in ODIs.
 
He's one of our premier bowlers, but he's not top drawer. Neither are Irfan and Junaid.

Wahab is better than the likes of Gul, Talha, Asad, Tanvir etc. who were playing ahead of him much to my annoyance.

He'll give you a few hostile spells here and there, pick some wickets but that's it. Anymore expectations and it will yield disappointment only.

Personally I'm not convinced that Junaid and Irfan are much better than him. They are all decent at best.

I have no faith in our fast bowling resources. None whatsoever, as far as their potential to be world class both individually and collectively is concerned.

Definitely a better option than those mentioned.

But we do have back up bowlers like Sadaf and Mir Hamza, who are not bad options and will certainly do better.
 
Interesting. Taylor gone. Why can't the main bowlers pick up wicks for Pakistan ?
 
Now how to get Latham?

He could sweep the spinners out of the attack....
 
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