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Pakistan v New Zealand | 2nd Test | Nov 17-21, 2014 | Dubai | Day 3

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Definitely lacks conviction and in the few ODIs he played as an opener, he did very well against pace but got bogged down as soon as the spinners started to operate.

Shouldn't be playing ODIs any time soon. We have better options.

Definitely know he won't play in LOI's, but he could if he just worked on a few issues.

I don't understand how Pakistan has very good spinners to work with, yet these players who have serious weaknesses against it, don't put in the hours against an Ajmal, Babar, or Shah.
 
Azhar, Asad or Sarfraz - next Test captain?

I'd say Asad or Sarfraz. I somehow can't see Azhar as captain. Sarfraz is a good choice due to his experience as a captain, while Asad has a good head, temperament and seems to know what he's doing. I think Asad will be our next captain.
 
I dunno why but it just makes me happier when I see someone I know out there doing well for Pakistan.
 
Definitely know he won't play in LOI's, but he could if he just worked on a few issues.

I don't understand how Pakistan has very good spinners to work with, yet these players who have serious weaknesses against it, don't put in the hours against an Ajmal, Babar, or Shah.

Yeah that's surprising. We have had a conventional and an unconventional spinner playing for years and yet most still struggle. Baffling.
 
The problem is that he has not improved a wee bit , since debut.

That's not true. Azhar Ali up until this season had I believe the lowest SR of an test batsman ever. Now, he isn't obviously blowing the world away with his SR at the moment, but overall he is getting consistency and scoring 50s or centuries pretty much every other inning, doesn't throw his wicket away, plays within himself, doesn't get bogged down, and a key aspect people forget, he takes the shine off the new ball so the middle order can ease away and score a lot of runs.

He's not an ideal player by any means, but he is a damn useful one.
 
I'd say Asad or Sarfraz. I somehow can't see Azhar as captain. Sarfraz is a good choice due to his experience as a captain, while Asad has a good head, temperament and seems to know what he's doing. I think Asad will be our next captain.

I think Misbah would vote for Azhar but I'd prefer Shafiq with Sarfraz VC.
 
Negative batting has hampered pakistan this innings.

By whom exactly? Azhar is anchoring, Misbah and Younis were going at 50, Shan is awful, and Taufeeq is pretty much done.

For a guy who hates Umar Akmal and his attacking style, you can't contradict that and get upset when we are playing catch up and a toned down game.
 
By whom exactly? Azhar is anchoring, Misbah and Younis were going at 50, Shan is awful, and Taufeeq is pretty much done.

For a guy who hates Umar Akmal and his attacking style, you can't contradict that and get upset when we are playing catch up and a toned down game.

Jibran is just trolling bro. He is posting negative for reactions. Don't feed.

And Shan is far from awful.
 
That's not true. Azhar Ali up until this season had I believe the lowest SR of an test batsman ever. Now, he isn't obviously blowing the world away with his SR at the moment, but overall he is getting consistency and scoring 50s or centuries pretty much every other inning, doesn't throw his wicket away, plays within himself, doesn't get bogged down, and a key aspect people forget, he takes the shine off the new ball so the middle order can ease away and score a lot of runs.

He's not an ideal player by any means, but he is a damn useful one.
If he is there to take shine away , he should be opening the batting.
 
on the cuptaany for me there is simply one candidate and that's sarfraz. But first iw ould give it to younis in tests with sarfraz as VC. learn the ropes and then when YK retires he can take over. in ODI's again sarfraz and in T20 give it to him too. We should have one captain for all formats.

coming onto azhar, his innings at the OVAL will live long. He played some great shots near the fag end. and his innings in that world record chase also. He can do it. We should let him open in a t20 and see how he does. No harm.
 
I think Misbah would vote for Azhar but I'd prefer Shafiq with Sarfraz VC.

If they want the same captain for both Test and ODI, Shafiq is the best choice. Making Azhar Test captain may just push him into the ODI team too.
 
Shafiq cannot play ODI cricket.

Shafiq will be a good ODI batsman if he plays at #3. It's pointless playing him anywhere else. Even in domestics, Asad's stronger format is One Day. He'd be a very good anchor who can also bring out the big shots if required. Unfortunately, we've once again got Younis Khan probably pushing him out of #3 again :facepalm:
 
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By whom exactly? Azhar is anchoring, Misbah and Younis were going at 50, Shan is awful, and Taufeeq is pretty much done.

For a guy who hates Umar Akmal and his attacking style, you can't contradict that and get upset when we are playing catch up and a toned down game.

I hate umar akmals brainlessness , I dont hate him. I would love to watch him in a t20 game where nothing is at the stake,

Younis slowed down considerably after lunch and azhar was already too slow. After playing 220 odd balls you should at least be striking at 45 , even the modern day anchors play like this. The pitch isnt a minefield either.
 
Azhar gone ..... after wasting so many balls , little more aggression would have given him a hundred.

He has missed at least 3 hundreds because of slow batting.
 
Poor shot to get out. Lost his balance and shape.

Good innings but Pakistan are in big trouble now.
 
big trouble now. Looks like we are going to give a big lead away here. Cmon cant lose anymore else curtains.
 
Azhar never learns :facepalm:. even after wasting these many deliveries and spending too much time at the crease,creating pressure at the other end, he threw it away just like that. ugly from Azhar!!
 
if this pair gets sets then any score is possible it all depends how they cope up with pressure
 
Azhar never learns :facepalm:. even after wasting these many deliveries and spending too much time at the crease,creating pressure at the other end, he threw it away just like that. ugly from Azhar!!
Very limited player , that is his limit. You cannot improve beyond your thresh hold.
 
Batsmen will do mistakes , otherwise no one would have been out.[emoji5]

What makes him worst is that he waste too many deliveries and create pressure on the other side. if he can rotate the strike like YK, Sarfaraz does then this issue wouldn't have come.
 
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