Pakistani cricket isolation - Do we deserve it?

[Savak]

Yes we do.

In the last decade, we have given cricket nothing but fixers, chuckers and terrorists. The ICC and the other nations simply don't owe us anything. Having said that, the onus is on us to end this isolation, since teams will never tour Pakistan if we leave it to them.

They are not missing out on anything by not playing in Pakistan. We need to continuously work on bringing cricket back to Pakistan. Step by step, with the right plan, it will eventually happen.

Which terrorist did we give to cricket?

 

[ExpressPacer]

Again agreement. If it's signed, why doesn't PCB goes to Court - BCB's father will compensate PCB in that case.

I am astonished with the nativity of some PAK posters here. Buddy, your board is run by the most corrupt, incompetent people, who won't get an managerial position even in BCB on cricket administration merit.

Some PAK posters enjoys a mental satisfied by portraying BCB as BCCI bunny - but the irony is that, when it mattered BCB indeed stood ground on own interest & voted against BCCI; whereas your Board Chairman & Consultant (Don't know Sethi's position title in PCB) is barking on BCCI that, they sold their vote for Big Three formation, in exchange of some Indian tours.

These guys are not even good at signing a document properly. Regarding the promise "Presidential Security" - another irony is that, today PAK stands on this quick sand, because of goofing up their last promise. PCB isn't able to host their own private league in PAK & they expect other countries to tour PAK for a full series.

Wake - up - instead of winning an argument in a blog, try to raise voice where it matters. Today's Oval stands should give PAK people enough clue of PCB's bluff on financial feasibility of hosting BD in a neutral venue. BCB is run by professionals - if it's not in PCB's length, allow BCB to take charge of a bilateral series, form where PCB can draw their share - basically they are good at only that; otherwise you don't need to be a Marketing genius to extract money from a trillion dollar economy, selling the most sought after entertainment commodity in 200 mn population.

It's befitting that these people are now trolled by even Afghan board - before it goes down to Uganda/Kenya board, I hope common sense prevails over jingoism in PP.

I admire you took the time out to write such a long and detailed post however, this is your opinion. I respect your opinion but that does not mean I necessarily agree with it. As for your astonishment over the "nativity" of some Pak posters, I want to let you know that I agree, PCB is run by people who got to those positions because of corruption within the Govt. however, they have not put a foot wrong with regards to the Bangladesh debacle, PCB have tried to facilitate the BCB wherever it could, even going to the extent of going over to BD for another Test series before Bangladesh toured Pakistan.

Pakistan isn't dying to play with boards like Afghanistan, as you mentioned the PCB got trollled, however, I'm happy that PCB as a board does not play into the hands of another monopolistic board for whatever agenda they have and tries to go with the way of peace. I'm sorry but all the indifference and nonchalance is coming from from your side, quite contrary to what you believe.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Which terrorist did we give to cricket?

He's talking about the terrorist attack on the Sri Lankan team and regrettably, he's right. Making a cricket team the direct recipient of terror is never great.

 

[Savak]

Again agreement. If it's signed, why doesn't PCB goes to Court - BCB's father will compensate PCB in that case.

I am astonished with the nativity of some PAK posters here. Buddy, your board is run by the most corrupt, incompetent people, who won't get an managerial position even in BCB on cricket administration merit.

Some PAK posters enjoys a mental satisfied by portraying BCB as BCCI bunny - but the irony is that, when it mattered BCB indeed stood ground on own interest & voted against BCCI; whereas your Board Chairman & Consultant (Don't know Sethi's position title in PCB) is barking on BCCI that, they sold their vote for Big Three formation, in exchange of some Indian tours.

These guys are not even good at signing a document properly. Regarding the promise "Presidential Security" - another irony is that, today PAK stands on this quick sand, because of goofing up their last promise. PCB isn't able to host their own private league in PAK & they expect other countries to tour PAK for a full series.

Wake - up - instead of winning an argument in a blog, try to raise voice where it matters. Today's Oval stands should give PAK people enough clue of PCB's bluff on financial feasibility of hosting BD in a neutral venue. BCB is run by professionals - if it's not in PCB's length, allow BCB to take charge of a bilateral series, form where PCB can draw their share - basically they are good at only that; otherwise you don't need to be a Marketing genius to extract money from a trillion dollar economy, selling the most sought after entertainment commodity in 200 mn population.

It's befitting that these people are now trolled by even Afghan board - before it goes down to Uganda/Kenya board, I hope common sense prevails over jingoism in PP.

MMHS, please keep your arrogant opinions where the sun doesn't shine.

The PCB administration is not as corrupt or inept as you constantly like to bark it to be, in fact the PCB administration scores high marks for successfully hosting the PSL twice outside Pakistan in the UAE where not a single payment issue or anything else has hampered the credibility of the league.

In stark contrast your BPL which has many advantages over the BPL in terms of being played in Bangladesh, in front of home crowds, payment issues, controversies where even the FICA has issued public statements questioning the credibility of the league, doesn't even come close to the Goodwill the league has generated.

Even though the PSL is not offering extremely high salaries to the Foreign players as of now, it hasn't stopped them from singing praises for the professional way the tournament has been run, the family environment the Franchise owners have established for their respective teams and that they will still play in the PSL regardless of how much $$$ they are offered.

So based on this evidence, i am sorry but the PCB scores over the BCB administration big time.

Secondly there is a difference and even the BCCI will be kind enough to acknowledge it, when the PCB threatens the BCCI with something, the BCCI atleast listens because they know that the PCB is a major cricketing board and that their voice cannot be ignored. The BCCI does not give a damn about the BCB and i dare the BCB to raise any objection, complaint against the BCCI and whether the BCCI will even bother to listen to them or notice them.

Please remain the minnows that you are.

 

[Mamoon]

Which terrorist did we give to cricket?

Attack on Sri Lankans. We can blame India or anyone for masterminding the attack, but that doesn't change the fact that our security measures were completely inadequate and we failed miserably.

 

[Savak]

Attack on Sri Lankans. We can blame India or anyone for masterminding the attack, but that doesn't change the fact that our security measures were completely inadequate and we failed miserably.

It is going to be 10 years since that episode and i can bet every bottom dollar that such a thing will never happen to a foreign team again. It was sad that the event happened but it taught the PCB and Pakistan a vital lesson not to take anything for granted security wise.

If foreign diplomats, foreign businessman, ambassadors, sportsmen, guests and tourists can come to Pakistan even today without any issues, so can foreign teams. If the likes of Sammy, Jordan, Samuels and Co can come to Pakistan so can Foreign teams. If the likes of Gibbs, Rhodes, Martyn, Jayasuriya, Alaister Campbell, Jadeja, Viv Richards, Brian Lara, Ian Chappel can come to Pakistan, so can foreign teams.

 

[Mamoon]

It is going to be 10 years since that episode and i can bet every bottom dollar that such a thing will never happen to a foreign team again. It was sad that the event happened but it taught the PCB and Pakistan a vital lesson not to take anything for granted security wise.

If foreign diplomats, foreign businessman, ambassadors, sportsmen, guests and tourists can come to Pakistan even today without any issues, so can foreign teams. If the likes of Sammy, Jordan, Samuels and Co can come to Pakistan so can Foreign teams. If the likes of Gibbs, Rhodes, Martyn, Jayasuriya, Alaister Campbell, Jadeja, Viv Richards, Brian Lara, Ian Chappel can come to Pakistan, so can foreign teams.

We can bet any number of dollars, but the fact is that foreign players and teams simply weigh out the pros and cons. The cons of touring Pakistan - in case some thing terrible happens - far, far outweigh the pros. They can potentially lose their lives, but what do they gain? Nothing.

Cricket has been perfectly normal without matches in Pakistan for 8 years, and it will be perfectly normal after 80 years as well. You are right about foreign businessmen, ambassadors, athletes etc., but none of them have been directly attacked like a cricket team, so we need to understand the reservations of the teams.

Simply promising fool-proof security is not enough. Like any risk, you have to evaluate how much you can potentially gain and how much you can potentially lose. 99% of the players are not going to risk losing their lives in Pakistan for the sake of a few matches. Why would teams like Australia, England, India, South Africa etc. ever want to take this risk? What do they lose by not playing in Pakistan, and what would they gain if they do come? Yes, they will be treated like royalty, the Pakistani fans will cheer for them and give them respect, but what does it mean to them? Nothing at all.

 

[ExpressPacer]

The thing is, eventually, cricket will most definitely come back to Pakistan. There's no doubt about that. There are terrorist organizations, attacks and bomb blasts in almost every cricketing nation presently and the situation is getting worse throughout the world. India is one of the most intolerant nations on the planet, if not the most. Bangladesh is as much captive of ISIS as anyone else and the UK has a serious problem of dealing with ISIS inspired attacks and Australia is not much different. Criminal activity and terrorism in South Africa is no secret to the world. Every nation is pretty much in the grip of some sort of problem and Pakistan's been made an easy scapegoat to make rest of the world seem like Utopia where we have Unicorns running around and pixies flying over the horizon. Understandably so however, Pakistan is the only country that's had a direct contact between terrorism and cricket and the world is going to take some time to process what the hell actually happened.

The positive is that the attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team did not result in any casualties of the members of the Sri Lankan cricket team. Had it been any different, this thread wouldn't have even existed. Now the real tricky part for the world is what happens next, an attack on a cricket player or even a team in rest of the countries is inevitable, especially somewhere like India where hundreds of foreign cricketers come for the IPL. I hope this does not happen but if it is not imminent, it is inevitable. I'm just waiting to see how the world deals with something like that.

 

[Savak]

We can bet any number of dollars, but the fact is that foreign players and teams simply weigh out the pros and cons. The cons of touring Pakistan - in case some thing terrible happens - far, far outweigh the pros. They can potentially lose their lives, but what do they gain? Nothing.

Cricket has been perfectly normal without matches in Pakistan for 8 years, and it will be perfectly normal after 80 years as well. You are right about foreign businessmen, ambassadors, athletes etc., but none of them have been directly attacked like a cricket team, so we need to understand the reservations of the teams.

Simply promising fool-proof security is not enough. Like any risk, you have to evaluate how much you can potentially gain and how much you can potentially lose. 99% of the players are not going to risk losing their lives in Pakistan for the sake of a few matches. Why would teams like Australia, England, India, South Africa etc. ever want to take this risk? What do they lose by not playing in Pakistan, and what would they gain if they do come? Yes, they will be treated like royalty, the Pakistani fans will cheer for them and give them respect, but what does it mean to them? Nothing at all.

I believe Pakistan can offer the same facilities, recreational options that India, Sri Lanka or even Bangladesh offers to Foreign players. Given that the country is tremendously starved of teams like Australia, England, South Africa, West Indies and co from playing in Pakistan. Should these countries tour, there will be a tremendous buzz and i am very confident that the PCB will make all sorts of arrangements PSL style to keep the players feel very welcome. This is where our Showbiz, Entertainment industry will also have to play a role by hosting dinners, parties, events.

I am pretty sure our security forces can escort the players wherever they want to go i.e. restaurants, shopping malls, golf clubs, tourist attractions.

This is why i believe the goodwill that the PSL and the Franchise owners are generating through the PSL is key, Peshawar Zalmi managed to convince foreign players to come to Pakistan. International players and our ex legendary players will also need to use their connections, relationships with the foreign players to convince them to play in Pakistan.

It is not impossible. I predict under Sethi we will get an England, Australia, NZ or South Africa agreeing to tour Pakistan, if he can successfully host the PSL, he can do this as well.

 

[Savak]

The thing is, eventually, cricket will most definitely come back to Pakistan. There's no doubt about that. There are terrorist organizations, attacks and bomb blasts in almost every cricketing nation presently and the situation is getting worse throughout the world. India is one of the most intolerant nations on the planet, if not the most. Bangladesh is as much captive of ISIS as anyone else and the UK has a serious problem of dealing with ISIS inspired attacks and Australia is not much different. Criminal activity and terrorism in South Africa is no secret to the world. Every nation is pretty much in the grip of some sort of problem and Pakistan's been made an easy scapegoat to make rest of the world seem like Utopia where we have Unicorns running around and pixies flying over the horizon. Understandably so however, Pakistan is the only country that's had a direct contact between terrorism and cricket and the world is going to take some time to process what the hell actually happened.

The positive is that the attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team did not result in any casualties of the members of the Sri Lankan cricket team. Had it been any different, this thread wouldn't have even existed. Now the real tricky part for the world is what happens next, an attack on a cricket player or even a team in rest of the countries is inevitable, especially somewhere like India where hundreds of foreign cricketers come for the IPL. I hope this does not happen but if it is not imminent, it is inevitable. I'm just waiting to see how the world deals with something like that.

Its been 10 years now. The PCB is doing the right thing by being proactive with regards to PSL and bringing Cricket back to Pakistan. The ideal state of security where there is zero terrorism, crime, law and order in Pakistan to the satisfaction of the Westerners will never exist, if these Westerners had their way, they would never ever come to Pakistan ever again. Can't keep punishing Pakistan forever.

 

[Mamoon]

I believe Pakistan can offer the same facilities, recreational options that India, Sri Lanka or even Bangladesh offers to Foreign players. Given that the country is tremendously starved of teams like Australia, England, South Africa, West Indies and co from playing in Pakistan. Should these countries tour, there will be a tremendous buzz and i am very confident that the PCB will make all sorts of arrangements PSL style to keep the players feel very welcome. This is where our Showbiz, Entertainment industry will also have to play a role by hosting dinners, parties, events.

I am pretty sure our security forces can escort the players wherever they want to go i.e. restaurants, shopping malls, golf clubs, tourist attractions.

This is why i believe the goodwill that the PSL and the Franchise owners are generating through the PSL is key, Peshawar Zalmi managed to convince foreign players to come to Pakistan. International players and our ex legendary players will also need to use their connections, relationships with the foreign players to convince them to play in Pakistan.

It is not impossible. I predict under Sethi we will get an England, Australia, NZ or South Africa agreeing to tour Pakistan, if he can successfully host the PSL, he can do this as well.

None of these things are worth more to the players than their lives. Besides, none of these countries are terrorist nations like Pakistan, and none of these countries have welcomed a cricket team with AK-47s in the past. However, things don't stay the same forever. Eventually, terrorism will be eradicated from its roots and Pakistan will host cricket again. However, we are looking at decades here.

 

[MMHS]

I admire you took the time out to write such a long and detailed post however, this is your opinion. I respect your opinion but that does not mean I necessarily agree with it. As for your astonishment over the "nativity" of some Pak posters, I want to let you know that I agree, PCB is run by people who got to those positions because of corruption within the Govt. however, they have not put a foot wrong with regards to the Bangladesh debacle, PCB have tried to facilitate the BCB wherever it could, even going to the extent of going over to BD for another Test series before Bangladesh toured Pakistan.

Pakistan isn't dying to play with boards like Afghanistan, as you mentioned the PCB got trollled, however, I'm happy that PCB as a board does not play into the hands of another monopolistic board for whatever agenda they have and tries to go with the way of peace. I'm sorry but all the indifference and nonchalance is coming from from your side, quite contrary to what you believe.

The Bangladesh debacle is self created by PCB - in current situation, hardly any team is ready to tour PAK, therefore PCB can't point finger to BD only. I would have accepted your grevience had BCB declined to play against PAK. But, despite political differences, BCB always maintained a stand that we are ready to play PAK anywhere suitable & acceptable. Even, I would have accepted PCB's financial concerns regarding UAE had they not hosted NZ, WI & SRL there. PCB definitely facilitated BCB, but same can be said for SLCB, WICB & of course BCCI; but the biggest credit goes to Mr Dalmiah - he almost took it as his individual responsibility.

As I said, for PCB's favour, BCB had always been in support to PCB - if you have the eyes, you could have seen that in context of the political situation in South Asia. But, BCB itself has own limitation - it can play the same dirty game of commuting to tour & then point finger to GoB.

 

[Savak]

None of these things are worth more to the players than their lives. Besides, none of these countries are terrorist nations like Pakistan, and none of these countries have welcomed a cricket team with AK-47s in the past. However, things don't stay the same forever. Eventually, terrorism will be eradicated from its roots and Pakistan will host cricket again. However, we are looking at decades here.

Pakistan Cricket will not survive with decades of no International Cricket in Pakistan. The PCB is absolutely right in being proactive in bringing International Cricket back to Pakistan because only they know the true state of the PCB financials and the state of domestic cricket in Pakistan.

 

[Savak]

The Bangladesh debacle is self created by PCB - in current situation, hardly any team is ready to tour PAK, therefore PCB can't point finger to BD only. I would have accepted your grevience had BCB declined to play against PAK. But, despite political differences, BCB always maintained a stand that we are ready to play PAK anywhere suitable & acceptable. Even, I would have accepted PCB's financial concerns regarding UAE had they not hosted NZ, WI & SRL there. PCB definitely facilitated BCB, but same can be said for SLCB, WICB & of course BCCI; but the biggest credit goes to Mr Dalmiah - he almost took it as his individual responsibility.

As I said, for PCB's favour, BCB had always been in support to PCB - if you have the eyes, you could have seen that in context of the political situation in South Asia. But, BCB itself has own limitation - it can play the same dirty game of commuting to tour & then point finger to GoB.

How has the BCB supported Pakistan Cricket? By making false promises like please support our candidate for ICC president in exchange for our team touring Pakistan? Not giving advance notice of whether they will tour Pakistan or not?

 

[MMHS]

MMHS, please keep your arrogant opinions where the sun doesn't shine.

The PCB administration is not as corrupt or inept as you constantly like to bark it to be, in fact the PCB administration scores high marks for successfully hosting the PSL twice outside Pakistan in the UAE where not a single payment issue or anything else has hampered the credibility of the league.

In stark contrast your BPL which has many advantages over the BPL in terms of being played in Bangladesh, in front of home crowds, payment issues, controversies where even the FICA has issued public statements questioning the credibility of the league, doesn't even come close to the Goodwill the league has generated.

Even though the PSL is not offering extremely high salaries to the Foreign players as of now, it hasn't stopped them from singing praises for the professional way the tournament has been run, the family environment the Franchise owners have established for their respective teams and that they will still play in the PSL regardless of how much $$$ they are offered.

So based on this evidence, i am sorry but the PCB scores over the BCB administration big time.

Secondly there is a difference and even the BCCI will be kind enough to acknowledge it, when the PCB threatens the BCCI with something, the BCCI atleast listens because they know that the PCB is a major cricketing board and that their voice cannot be ignored. The BCCI does not give a damn about the BCB and i dare the BCB to raise any objection, complaint against the BCCI and whether the BCCI will even bother to listen to them or notice them.

Please remain the minnows that you are.

From your tenure in PP, I was expecting better from your judgement of a Cricket Board's success through arranging a T20 tournament - that too 5 years after BCB, SLCB & WICB.

Your last 2 para actually suggests who is arrogant here. As if posters are not aware of what BCCI is listening from PCB for last decade, after customers begging of a PCB Chairman, as part of a quarterly exercise.

Your last line is another irony - it's because of your thick skin & tight skull, the essence of Bhajji's polite comments to Amir Sohail didn't reach, where it matters.

 

[captain crook]

It really pains me to see the cold shoulder the rest of the world including countries like Australia, England etc give to the PCB and the Pakistani players in general. One of the reasons why our team has stagnated compared to the rest of the cricketing nations is primarily because we have played so less competitive cricket compared to other countries. In 2010, we probably played our most competitive year with matches against Australia, England, South Africa, New Zealand and the World Cup and our team has come leaps and bounds since the start of 2010.

We won the T-20 Cricket WC in 2009, Were the semi finalists in 2010, played really competitively in adverse conditions against much well prepared/superior oponents, reached the semi finals of the 2011 WC and still the BCCI chooses to ignore our players for the IPL? Surely the likes of Afridi, Gul, Razzaq, Umar Akmal can easily play in the league on merit. But what else would you expect the Indians to do, after all its their tournament, their league.

Really saddened while I was reading this post...

 

[MMHS]

How has the BCB supported Pakistan Cricket? By making false promises like please support our candidate for ICC president in exchange for our team touring Pakistan? Not giving advance notice of whether they will tour Pakistan or not?

That's another bluff by your the then Chairman. Ask him to show any proof/agreement of BCB's promise. Selling vote is not new to PCB, so that one I am symptomatic to you, as they even don't know how to sell vote properly.

 

[Savak]

From your tenure in PP, I was expecting better from your judgement of a Cricket Board's success through arranging a T20 tournament - that too 5 years after BCB, SLCB & WICB.

Your last 2 para actually suggests who is arrogant here. As if posters are not aware of what BCCI is listening from PCB for last decade, after customers begging of a PCB Chairman, as part of a quarterly exercise.

Your last line is another irony - it's because of your thick skin & tight skull, the essence of Bhajji's polite comments to Amir Sohail didn't reach, where it matters.

Was just giving you an example that our PCB is not as corrupt or inept as you like to Bark. Yes we held the PSL later than BCB and SLCB but the PSL already has a second edition while the SLCB has abandoned their league, but we did it correctly, professionally and successfully compared to these boards especially BPL which is riddled with payment scandals and had to be abandoned midway.

BCCI is listening to the PCB, the BCCI did not need PCB"s final vote but they still went through the process of signing an MOU with the PCB in exchange for that final vote even though they didn't need it. They are still responding to the PCB's legal threats, they are still inviting the PCB to talk, to compromise. If this was the BCB in place of the PCB, the BCCI would have put any notices from the BCB in their spam/junk folder.

Lastly, you can celebrate your ODI team's resurgence in the last 1-2 years but eventually you guys will return to your average minnow level status and performance i.e. 84 runs all out and all this bravado, chest thumping against Pakistan Cricket and PCB will be laughed, mocked at.

 

[Savak]

That's another bluff by your the then Chairman. Ask him to show any proof/agreement of BCB's promise. Selling vote is not new to PCB, so that one I am symptomatic to you, as they even don't know how to sell vote properly.

There is no bluff. It was what happened, that is what you people are dishonourable and incapable of honouring your commitments. Minnow level stuff really.

 

[MMHS]

Was just giving you an example that our PCB is not as corrupt or inept as you like to Bark. Yes we held the PSL later than BCB and SLCB but the PSL already has a second edition while the SLCB has abandoned their league, but we did it correctly, professionally and successfully compared to these boards especially BPL which is riddled with payment scandals and had to be abandoned midway.

BCCI is listening to the PCB, the BCCI did not need PCB"s final vote but they still went through the process of signing an MOU with the PCB in exchange for that final vote even though they didn't need it. They are still responding to the PCB's legal threats, they are still inviting the PCB to talk, to compromise. If this was the BCB in place of the PCB, the BCCI would have put any notices from the BCB in their spam/junk folder.

Lastly, you can celebrate your ODI team's resurgence in the last 1-2 years but eventually you guys will return to your average minnow level status and performance i.e. 84 runs all out and all this bravado, chest thumping against Pakistan Cricket and PCB will be laughed, mocked at.

Never thought your stupidity would come this level of bringing a practice match score for this discussion - this is called desperation.

It actually shows in the statisfection of "BCCI calling for compromise" - good to know. How BCCI will deal with BCB, let's park that, you better focus on India's father.

What BCB has done to BD cricket, I don't need to explain it to you, be happy with PSL success.


I think, we should stop discussion here, as I don't want to get banned - the experience must not be tasteful, as you may know. I like my profile name in PP, it'll be disgusting for me to open another user profile to lark around

 

[MMHS]

There is no bluff. It was what happened, that is what you people are dishonourable and incapable of honouring your commitments. Minnow level stuff really.

But off course - selling vote is royality.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Nobody is touring us for the next 5 years bro [MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION] it's a sad state of affairs but I guess it is how it is........

For someone who grew up in the late 90s and have been watching cricket for almost 2 decades now it pains me to see where we have reached today......

We will get our of this Inshallah but it's not going to be easy, we need to work hard to get out of this rut !!

 

[Savak]

Nobody is touring us for the next 5 years bro [MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION] it's a sad state of affairs but I guess it is how it is........

For someone who grew up in the late 90s and have been watching cricket for almost 2 decades now it pains me to see where we have reached today......

We will get our of this Inshallah but it's not going to be easy, we need to work hard to get out of this rut !!

There is no need to be grim. I have full confidence in Sethi. Mark my words, he will get international teams to tour Pakistan during his tenure along with hosting a significant portion of the PSL in Pakistan.

 

[princeuk]

The Asian bloc is full of too much politics let's face it, they simply need to stop mixing sport with politics as that's what politicians are for to deal with their politics and Cricket administrators must deal with cricket, it's the fans who are missing out, it's not about who's ego is the biggest.

 

[chinaman00]

Well, only way to end isolation is to be competitive and start winning tournaments. You can't perform at a pathetic levels & expect your arch enemies and its supporters to bail you out. There's no other way to end isolation than to start winning important matches. Else, you will continue to see countries like Afghanistan humiliating PCB & Pakistan on public forums.

 

[humzy]

To be honest i dont think most players liked touring Pakistan even before the attacks.

The culture is so foreign to a lot of these guys who want to kick up there heels go to bars and meet women.

So all these issues that have arisen just give them another excuse to use to not tour the country ever again.

 

[Savak]

Well, only way to end isolation is to be competitive and start winning tournaments. You can't perform at a pathetic levels & expect your arch enemies and its supporters to bail you out. There's no other way to end isolation than to start winning important matches. Else, you will continue to see countries like Afghanistan humiliating PCB & Pakistan on public forums.

Dont buy this, we won the T-20 WC in 2009 but still the isolation persisted.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Nobody deserves to be isolated but Pakistan has more to blame itself than external factors for the situation it finds itself in today. Romance with extremism has ruined this nation.

 

[chinaman00]

Dont buy this, we won the T-20 WC in 2009 but still the isolation persisted.

One time wonder. You have to perform consistently in order to be taken serious. Pakistan has regressed a lot since 2009.