What's new

Pakistan's chances of reaching the semi-finals stage of the ICC World Cup 2023?

Will Pakistan somehow qualify for the semi-finals of the ICC World Cup 2023?

  • Total voters
    193
pakistani pride said:
What logic. Pak would beat Afghanistan 9/10 times as well. The team that ends up being no 4 deserves it, who ever that will be.
Click to expand...
I wouldn't be too sure of the 9/10 ratio. Afghanistan have more talent and heart than Pakistan.

I think it would be 6-4 in Pakistan favor. Pakistan has fluked too many close games against Afghanistan in the last few years and Afghanistan have outplayed Pakistan in pretty much all those defeats.
 
Mamoon said:
I wouldn't be too sure of the 9/10 ratio. Afghanistan have more talent and heart than Pakistan.

I think it would be 6-4 in Pakistan favor. Pakistan has fluked too many close games against Afghanistan in the last few years and Afghanistan have outplayed Pakistan in pretty much all those defeats.
Click to expand...
uhmm no, Pak just whitewashed them recently. If Pak plays the right team and every player performs as per potential they are a much more superior team.
 
I'll be honest - I was rooting for AFG but once Maxwell started slapping balls like flies away to the rope, it was hard to not admire him. I can't believe this guy averages 35 with a S/R of 125+!

Still, we hold our breaths till our game actually begins. We'll know exactly what's required.

It's very likely that if NZ wins toss they will field first. So I'm hoping SL wins toss and bats first - they have been horrendous at chasing.
 
sweep_shot said:
Didn't Pakistan play a depleted side?

I feel like a series doesn't count if one of the sides is not playing their full team.
Click to expand...
well pakistan played a full side in this world cup and lost to afg
 
zulfiqar said:
I'll be honest - I was rooting for AFG but once Maxwell started slapping balls like flies away to the rope, it was hard to not admire him. I can't believe this guy averages 35 with a S/R of 125+!

Still, we hold our breaths till our game actually begins. We'll know exactly what's required.

It's very likely that if NZ wins toss they will field first. So I'm hoping SL wins toss and bats first - they have been horrendous at chasing.
Click to expand...
On that Bangalore pitch with rain in the evening - I really hope SL chase!
 
RehanG said:
www.timesnownews.com

Bengaluru Weather Highlights: IMD Forecasts Thundershowers on Nov 10, Cloudy Skies For Few More Days

Bengaluru Weather Today, Heavy Rains LIVE: Bengaluru to experience light rainfall today evening, waterlogging and traffic chaos being reported in many areas on Thursaday. The minimum and maximum temperature is likely to be around 20 degrees and 28 degrees Celsius., Bengaluru News News, Times Now
www.timesnownews.com www.timesnownews.com


It does not look good for thursday..
Click to expand...

Looks good from here 👌
 
Chances are slim to none. The team and captain dosti yaari only have themselves to blame. Before you @ me regarding Sarf's team also not qualifying in the 2019 WC semis, that WC was played in Australia which are thoroughly foreign conditions for our players. Meanwhile Indian pitches are almost like playing in Karachi, Lahore, Pindi etc. The conditions are very similar, its just that captain took his friends on paid vacation rather than actual cricketers who could win us matches.
 
pakistani pride said:
Talk about your own anger and frustration towards Pakistan (cricket) in general. You are the one doing bhangra each and every time Pak loses a game of cricket. Its just a sport, you sound like the world ends when Pak loses.
Click to expand...

No, in Mamoon ji case the world begins when Pakistan loses. It's Bhangra and dandiya all week long for him. When they win he usually goes missing.

For his likes Pakistan never deserves it despite having out of form bowlers, useless spinners and shaky batting they still seems to be in the hunt till the very last game of the group stage. That's the usual Pakistan way. I recall before world cup Mamoon ji kept mocking Naseer when he said Pakistan is the most unpredictable team, and this is exactly what he meant that despite doom and gloom it's still in the hunt, that's Pakistan we know and the reason why it carries unpredictibility tag. He was suggesting Pakistan ll be down the barrel but now are in the semifinal hunt
 
Mamoon said:
Again - please quote the posts/thread where I predicted that England would win the 2023 World Cup. I can certainly send you link to a thread from January where I clearly said that England will not win the World Cup because they have not learned from this mistakes, e.g. persisting with mediocre clowns like Moeen.

Number 1 ranked Pakistan got humiliated by Afghanistan on Indian soil and ex Indian players were dancing in celebration. History will never forget this humiliation.
Click to expand...
There’s something common between ex Indian players and you - doing bhangra when Pakistan loses.
 
Syed1 said:
Chances are slim to none. The team and captain dosti yaari only have themselves to blame. Before you @ me regarding Sarf's team also not qualifying in the 2019 WC semis, that WC was played in Australia which are thoroughly foreign conditions for our players. Meanwhile Indian pitches are almost like playing in Karachi, Lahore, Pindi etc. The conditions are very similar, its just that captain took his friends on paid vacation rather than actual cricketers who could win us matches.
Click to expand...

True, chances are slim and despite the result even if somehow Pakistan ends up winning the cup, Babar better not be excused for taking out of form players with him. He needs to be sacked from captaincy even if Pakistan against all odds ends up winning the cup. Guy never had it in him to lead and he never will. His dull, slow, lazy, uninspiring captaincy just doesn't cut it for longer formats.

Knowing PCB circus, even if team ends up on 5th spot by "almost" making it to the semis, they will consider it a "successful campaign" and will carry the same players n captain for many years to come
 
Mamoon said:
Number 1 ranked Pakistan got humiliated by Afghanistan on Indian soil and ex Indian players were dancing in celebration. History will never forget this humiliation.
Click to expand...

Ex Indian players were also dancing when Rizwan sent a lil tweet so it's all disco dance there with the mention of Pakistan usually.

During England-Pakistan series you kept humiliating Pakistan as to how England sent their C or D team, guess they ended up sending the same C or D team to this world cup or perhaps the one that played in Pakistan was much better despite those being different format. You were quite vocal about England during Pakistan series and before world cup, all came down crashing.
 
Pakistan loose and they deserve the humiliation, they win and the side they beat was a reserve team, some of you on here need to change your tune! You can only win or loose to the team in front of you!
 
Imagine Maxwell had the negativity of some of the Pakistani fans. He would have been timed out like Matthews. :shakib

Learn from Maxi.

You support until the last ball and you believe the team can get the job done. That's when the magic will happen starting with rain in Bengaluru.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
In NZ loses tomorrow, or the match is rained out, then Pakistan just needs to defeat England.

In NZ wins tomorrow, than it's more difficult.

I made a spreadsheet detailing what Pakistan needs to do. With two caveats.
1. I hope my equations right
2. It using NZ's current NRR. I'll adjust it for the new NRR after the match tomorrow.
 

Attachments

  • NRR.png
    NRR.png
    143.3 KB · Views: 39
Syed1 said:
Chances are slim to none. The team and captain dosti yaari only have themselves to blame. Before you @ me regarding Sarf's team also not qualifying in the 2019 WC semis, that WC was played in Australia which are thoroughly foreign conditions for our players. Meanwhile Indian pitches are almost like playing in Karachi, Lahore, Pindi etc. The conditions are very similar, its just that captain took his friends on paid vacation rather than actual cricketers who could win us matches.
Click to expand...
Lol. That World Cup was played in England , conditions that are more familiar for PAK than India.
 
kingusama92 said:
Imagine Maxwell had the negativity of some of the Pakistani fans. He would have been timed out like Matthews. :shakib

Learn from Maxi.

You support until the last ball and you believe the team can get the job done. That's when the magic will happen starting with rain in Bengaluru.
Click to expand...
Lots of posters were confident that PAK v NZ would be washed out and I said we were definitely getting a result and we we got 75 overs and a result.

We will get a result tomorrow as well imo. Might be a shortened T20 match but another result is likely.
 
Mohammad Kaif in speaking with the media - confidence or arrogance?

"They can reach but it will be a one-sided affair. I am opening the pages of history, what has happened. India have defeated them easily. However, Pakistan have the chance. If they play a good match and defeat England, the net-run-rate issue will be there, so they can reach there with a big win,"
 
Even if icc bcci have to put fake Bollywood rain on the stadium tomorrow they will do all they can for a Ind Pak semi.. $$$ bonanza 50 lakhs per 10 second advert.
 
Sri Lanka Assistant Coach Naveed Nawaz pre-match press conference:

[Reporter:]

Now, with the last game in the World Cup, the important thing is you've got to keep in mind a place at the Champions Trophy is at stake for Sri Lanka. In that sense, how crucial is tomorrow's game?

[Naveed Nawaz:]

Yeah, it's a crucial game. And the scenarios say that we need to win it. And there are a few more games played after our national. So, preparation was as usual. We came for training today. And I think everyone's very positive and trying to keep their heads up and go and play the best game tomorrow.
 
AAli98 said:
Even if icc bcci have to put fake Bollywood rain on the stadium tomorrow they will do all they can for a Ind Pak semi.. $$$ bonanza 50 lakhs per 10 second advert.
Click to expand...
No rain today in bangalore ...mostly match will happen tommrow ,even if it is shortened one
 
If I was a Pakistani fan, I would be feeling a lot more comfortable now after yesterdays result because now the situation is very clear cut and gives Pakistan the opportunity to have a fair shot at the semis in their final game as they would know exactly what to do unlike NZ.
 
Every app showing different weather very unpredictable. But looks like we will have a game win the toss and bowl first
 
Atleast a shortened match now ,so both teams should try to bowl out the opponent on a wet pitch and win the game quickly .
 
Had PCT played their games sensibly, not getting out before 50 overs, even with all these losses their NRR could have been close for the last game, but they never learn, every ICC tourney they play one game so badly that it reverberates the whole tournament. This year Ind game was bad but not as bad as some in yesteryears, none the less they left overs on the table in Ind, Aus and SA games, and played a bit slow against BD when the game was in hand. Had they played the full overs and made 15-20 runs more each game, the others would have taken more overs to chase, things be different now but hey who am I to question Qudrat Ka Nizam
 
Sherazkhalid said:
Had PCT played their games sensibly, not getting out before 50 overs, even with all these losses their NRR could have been close for the last game, but they never learn, every ICC tourney they play one game so badly that it reverberates the whole tournament. This year Ind game was bad but not as bad as some in yesteryears, none the less they left overs on the table in Ind, Aus and SA games, and played a bit slow against BD when the game was in hand. Had they played the full overs and made 15-20 runs more each game, the others would have taken more overs to chase, things be different now but hey who am I to question Qudrat Ka Nizam
Click to expand...
Well if they do that and keep things simple- then how will they get Qudrat ka nizam ! 🙂
 
England have found their form and confidence. Looking very tough for Pakistan now.
 
Also am hearing that the weather for the NZ Sri Lanka game is improving and we are likely to get a game there. Very unlikely for Sri Lanka to beat NZ at this stage.
 
A bit of info for our Pakistani folks here. After 2 days of heavy rain - today was mostly dry in Bangalore except for a few minutes of light drizzle in the evening !
 
NishanKonar said:
A bit of info for our Pakistani folks here. After 2 days of heavy rain - today was mostly dry in Bangalore except for a few minutes of light drizzle in the evening !
Click to expand...
weather is clear until tomorrow 12pm rain showing up for 3-4 hours then break for an hour and rain again for 2 more ours its 50-50 lets see fingers crossed
 
Enough of NZ drama. Let it rain , let it rain. India has NZ allergy in world cups. It's time they went home after conceding massive runs to Aus and Pak. They don't deserve to be in semis with half the team injured and the rest ready to retire. Need Pak in SF and hopefully they win against Eng.
 
So if Pakistan were to make it what would it require? Pak win against Eng and NZ lose to SLK? Can Pakistan qualify if NZ win?
 
7sins said:
weather is clear until tomorrow 12pm rain showing up for 3-4 hours then break for an hour and rain again for 2 more ours its 50-50 lets see fingers crossed
Click to expand...
Current SL team under over cast conditions can get bowled out for 40 runs lol They are that kind of a side.
 
Sindragosa said:
Yes. Pakistan would need to win by approximately either 150 runs or 25 overs.
Click to expand...
See that's where it becomes very difficult for pak to qualify if nz wins. . I dont see pak winning by more than 150 runs or chasing in 25 overs. If nz victory margin is big- then these numbers go up even bigger for pak. Either it rains out or a blowout nz loss is the only way for pak..
 
Sindragosa said:
In NZ loses tomorrow, or the match is rained out, then Pakistan just needs to defeat England.

In NZ wins tomorrow, than it's more difficult.

I made a spreadsheet detailing what Pakistan needs to do. With two caveats.
1. I hope my equations right
2. It using NZ's current NRR. I'll adjust it for the new NRR after the match tomorrow.
Click to expand...
Numbers hurt my head and I avoid them as far as possible. But just a question. For either Pak or England's scores (batting first), have you assumed 50 overs? Wouldn't the NRR required be actually impossible to know until one innings is completed?
 
It barely rained in Bangalore yesterday and there won't be enough today so match will certainly happen. I won't be surprised if it is close to a complete 50 overs match.
 
I actually want SL to win, just so I have one more meaningful match to watch. Guess the Afg-SA game is pointless unless Afg annihilate the Saffers. What if SA bat 2nd though.

Would be nice if we could add some Afg tension into the Pak-Eng game. Imagine Pakistan knowing that their loss is not just a return home but an entry for their neighbors :rabada2
 
I know Sri Lanka has been terrible this World Cup, but the arrogance from NZ fans all over social media is interesting.

It’s like if there is a game, might aswell hand over the match to NZ. Funnier things have happened in cricket.
 
pillionrider said:
Numbers hurt my head and I avoid them as far as possible. But just a question. For either Pak or England's scores (batting first), have you assumed 50 overs? Wouldn't the NRR required be actually impossible to know until one innings is completed?
Click to expand...
I'm assuming the team that bats first has it's full 50 overs. If they're all out it counts as 50 overs anyway. So whether the innings ends because of the over limit or the wicket limit, it counts as 50 either way.

If Pakistan bats first and wins, then either England has faced 50 overs, or they're all out, which counts as Pakistan bowling 50 overs either way.

If England bats first then Pakistan has to complete the chase (which I've calculated as England's total + 1) in approximately 25 overs. Those overs are actually the calculated variable, so they obviously don't have to be 50.

Now if there's an official shortening of the match, because of rain or something, then the numbers will change.
 
Will be funny if NZ, Pakistan, Afghanistan all lose their last game & someone goes into the semi final with 4 wins and 5 defeats then goes on to win two KOs to lift the World Cup ahead of Bharat with a potential 9-0 record going into the semis. :yk

@Mamoon
 
Bhaijaan said:
Will be funny if NZ, Pakistan, Afghanistan all lose their last game & someone goes into the semi final with 4 wins and 5 defeats then goes on to win two KOs to lift the World Cup ahead of Bharat with a potential 9-0 record going into the semis. :yk

@Mamoon
Click to expand...

If any team that is likely to do it, that's Pakistan.

But, realistically speaking, I think Aussies may win the trophy eventually (after many dramas).
 
A heavy New Zealand win knocks Pakistan out today and it's very likely.

Pakistan won't best England easily let alone atone for NRR.


They've come close but heavy losses to Afghanistan then not closing out South Africa has been the difference
 
SpiritOf1903 said:
A heavy New Zealand win knocks Pakistan out today and it's very likely.

Pakistan won't best England easily let alone atone for NRR.


They've come close but heavy losses to Afghanistan then not closing out South Africa has been the difference
Click to expand...

Pakistan chased down 400. Three nothing that they cannot do
 
shah_1 said:
Pakistan to blame

We should have chased an easy total against Australia
Click to expand...

Yeah unlike many here, I genuinely believed Pakistan could have won that match against when Rizwan and Iftikhar were at the crease, even with Imam-Abdullah Partnership not going at required run rate for the most part (I think) and Babar getting out early.

Losing to Afghanistan is unacceptable for reaching semi-finals, no other way of putting it

But the loss vs South Africa (most likely) was "it"
 
Kianig89 said:
The end is nigh hard luck Pakistan for the first time I think 3 50 overs WC without a SF appearance, now please stop trumpeting the abundance of talent in the country
Click to expand...

Besides a shortfall in talent, there has been a complete lack of preparation. Players were allowed to participate in unlimited micky mouse leagues, leading to injuries, and no significant One Day International (ODI) matches have been played since the 2019 World Cup. The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) prioritized financially lucrative Twenty20 matches, ignoring the development of ODI and Test cricket.

To make matters worse, they chose an extremely weak squad and appointed a leader with a reputation for unimaginative thinking and disastrous leadership.
 
Game over. Pak only have themselves to blame again, losing to Afghan and messing up on NRR for the second World Cup in a row.
 
It would be a very dull world cup without Pakistan in the semi. Only 1 Asian team in semi- I can't accept. That loss to Afghanistan has cost it.
 
shokz1408 said:
Game over. Pak only have themselves to blame again, losing to Afghan and messing up on NRR for the second World Cup in a row.
Click to expand...
Atrocious squad selection with 2 worst spinners to play in the history for Pakistan (Imad Wasim should have been in the team ) cost it.
 
India is in its supreme phase, Afghanistan is rising and Pak, Ban, Sri are drowning - sums up Asian cricket.
 
Mainul said:
Atrocious squad selection with 2 worst spinners to play in the history for Pakistan (Imad Wasim should have been in the team ) cost it.
Click to expand...

Definitely the weakest part of our team, we don’t have match winning all rounders. Nobody who will take the game away with the bat or ball. Non existent frontline spinners in Shadab and Nawaz.
 
Pakistan chances to reaching semifinal is very slim.
Only rain can save them but it's seems highly impossible.
 
If Pakistan beat England - they will finish 5th - that is a pretty good achievement for a side that is average - fans should accept its not been a total disaster (unlike England or Sri Lanka who have been appalling). Pakistan only have themselves to blame - honestly they were lucky with rain which got them 2 points and they took it for granted that an average score would be enough to beat Afghanistan. 5th in the last tournament and 5th again now are respectable finishes for such a flawed outfit. Embrace it.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

mominsaigol
ICC Champions Trophy 2025: Match Predictions and Discussions
Replies
68
Views
10K
FearlessRoar
FearlessRoar
The Bald Eagle
Official fixtures announced for ICC Champions Trophy 2025
2
Replies
97
Views
4K
FearlessRoar
FearlessRoar
The Bald Eagle
  • Poll Poll
Australia progress to semi-finals after their Group B match against Afghanistan in ICC Champions Trophy 2025 ends with no result due to wet outfield
8 9 10
Replies
753
Views
9K
sweep_shot
sweep_shot
T
Is it possible to qualify for the semi-final of the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 with only 1 win in the group stage?
Replies
3
Views
508
JaDed
JaDed
The Bald Eagle
Predict the semi-finalists of ICC Champions Trophy 2025
2 3
Replies
169
Views
8K
mominsaigol
mominsaigol
Back
Top