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Pakistan's chances of reaching the semi-finals stage of the ICC World Cup 2023?

Will Pakistan somehow qualify for the semi-finals of the ICC World Cup 2023?

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saqib.rai said:
No no
Losing to India would cause such mental trauma that me and many like myself would be in deep sadness for years to come.

Its better if we don't qualify at all than to lose to India in knockout.
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It's just sports, take it easy.
 
ENG has nothing at stake while PAK has every thing. This is a dangerous situation to be in. PAK may prevail too. Having said that NZ should be able to thrash SL since NZ fancies facing pace and bounce equally. I do no think SL has Fakhar like x-factor .
May be the match would get rained off. Kudrat ka nizam could be in play again.
 
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As I've been saying the entire time, it's gonna happen. :ma
 
saqib.rai said:
No no
Losing to India would cause such mental trauma that me and many like myself would be in deep sadness for years to come.

Its better if we don't qualify at all than to lose to India in knockout.
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There should be no issue with that, so what it's just a game. Knock out pressure will be tremendous on India and if we somehow made it to semis, trust me Pakistan will be extremely pumped up to put up a much better performance. The only hopeless factor will remain our bowling, don't see it firing.

If somehow SL against all odds could just turn it around against NZ, road will be all set for Pakistan.
 
mikeypbadana86 said:
ENG has nothing at stake while PAK has every thing. This is a dangerous situation to be in. PAK may prevail too. Having said that NZ should be able to thrash SL since NZ fancies facing pace and bounce equally. I do no think SL has Fakhar like x-factor .
May be the match would get rained off. Kudrat ka nizam could be in play again.
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Ever since they lost Shanaka, the captaincy pressure has gotten to Mendis. He was like a fast train until he got the captaincy. After captaincy it is a dramatic fall. Poor guy keeps 50 overs. Captains them. Tries to be their game changer as well. Too much on his shoulders. Although Shanaka was useless as a player his captaincy was something they admired and they stepped up for him.
 
At this point NZ match will wash out. Pakistan can easily beat the worst team of the world cup (atleast according to table) England. NZ lost 4 matches in a row. So they are not better than others. If anything Afghanistan is a better side than the other sides. Very consistent after a point.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
At this point NZ match will wash out. Pakistan can easily beat the worst team of the world cup (atleast according to table) England. NZ lost 4 matches in a row. So they are not better than others. If anything Afghanistan is a better side than the other sides. Very consistent after a point.
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If NZ vs SL washes out and Pakistan beats England, does Pakistan qualify for Semis or does NZ?
 
ExpressPacer said:
If NZ vs SL washes out and Pakistan beats England, does Pakistan qualify for Semis or does NZ?
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Yes, that will leave NZ with 9 points and Pakistan will have 10. The only other team in contest for 4th spot ll be Afghanistan. If they win both of their remaining two games then none of the results matter for either NZ or Pak as Afghan ll end up with 12 points. Doubt Afghan can pull off both games
 
Thephenom said:
We were thrashed in the Champions Trophy by India before beating them in a final, knockouts can do funny things to a team
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True, we did the exact same thing India did to us in the group stage. Inshallah we make it to semis and beyond. 😁
 
Whoever plays against India in the semi either nz or pakistan just pray to Gof that you win the toss and bat first no matter what because you don't want to face those bowlers under light
 
Hopefully England will do the business against Pakistan. They have been utterly humiliated in this World Cup and they have to play for pride.

This will be the last ODI for many players in the team and they would like to bow out with a bang. One final great performance from one of the greatest ODI sides ever.

We need Afghanistan or New Zealand to join India, South Africa and Australia in the semifinals.
 
I think this great indian team and their crowd wants to see India pak semi. I expect massive support for Pakistan at Eden garden if Pakistan are still alive in the tournament by 11th Nov
 
gazza619 said:
Hold your horses. Afghanistan has an equal chance.

Plus there is no guarantee Pakistan will beat England.
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Oh, I forgot about Eng game. Yes, it's not given, but I don't think Afghanistan will beat SA and Aus both. It's pretty much Eng game now.
 
mikeypbadana86 said:
ENG has nothing at stake while PAK has every thing. This is a dangerous situation to be in. PAK may prevail too. Having said that NZ should be able to thrash SL since NZ fancies facing pace and bounce equally. I do no think SL has Fakhar like x-factor .
May be the match would get rained off. Kudrat ka nizam could be in play again.
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England can still qualify for CT with 6 points
 
Afro said:
What if NZ loses to SL and PK loses to ENG?
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Never considered this scenario. Assuming afghans lose to aus and SA as they should, then really it goes down to us needing NZ to lose by a very significant margin and us to only lose in a close thriller I think to qualify. But NZ would have to lose really badly and get their run rate into the minus. Just hope it rains a lot that day, and we don’t have to worry about the match.
 
NZ still the favourite for 4th spot, Pakistn's pop gun attack will be lashed by English batsman who have a lot to prove, Moreover if we are chasing then expect Adil Rashid to have a field day
 
Kianig89 said:
NZ still the favourite for 4th spot, Pakistn's pop gun attack will be lashed by English batsman who have a lot to prove, Moreover if we are chasing then expect Adil Rashid to have a field day
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Nopes, poms are done and dusted, they might win against NL.
 
Pakistan's likelihood of reaching the semis would be if NZ loose to Sri Lanka as opposed to us beating England by a crazy margin.

If you look at the stats drawn up by @W63L35 in another thread, Sri Lanka have the worst economy rate, strike rate and averages.

That is after Madushanka's taken 18 wickets for Sri Lanka which I think is in the top 2 or 3 wicket takers this tournament.

They average only around 5.5 wickets per game.

Good luck to us !

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tauseef_mahmood said:
India is not as good as the results show.
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What a silly statement they have mauled every team they have played and will win this World Cup easily. So winning this World Cup without losing a game is not a good result for you. You have to be delusional to think that winning the World Cup and hammering every team without losing a game is not a good result.
 
Pakistan's best chance will be if the New Zealand v Sri Lanka game is rained off with no result otherwise I can't see Sri Lanka beating the Kiwis.
 
What are some of the calculations?

Let's say NZ wins by 50 runs. How much does PAK have to win by to go ahead of them in NRR?
 
kingusama92 said:
What are some of the calculations?

Let's say NZ wins by 50 runs. How much does PAK have to win by to go ahead of them in NRR?
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If NZ beats SL by 1 runs then Pakistan should win by 131 runs or chase in 28 overs
If nz win by 50 runs then Pakistan should win bt 177 runs or chase in 21 overs
 
kingusama92 said:
What are some of the calculations?

Let's say NZ wins by 50 runs. How much does PAK have to win by to go ahead of them in NRR?
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Pak has to win by 130 runs( existing run rate deficiency) plus 50 runs in case of batting first.

If they chase I think they have to chase it 21 overs less than the overs taken by nz against sl. I may be slightly wrong in chase scenario.
 
kingusama92 said:
What are some of the calculations?

Let's say NZ wins by 50 runs. How much does PAK have to win by to go ahead of them in NRR?
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Pakistan then would need to win by 180 runs or chase the score by about 20 overs.

Basically, if NZ wins against SL convincingly, it’s pretty much over for Pak. Even if NZ barely wins against SL, it’s already difficult.

Whatever happens, Pakistan needs to bat second at Eden Gardens because it’s always easier to chase NRR than to defend it.
 
Devadwal said:
If NZ beats SL by 1 runs then Pakistan should win by 131 runs or chase in 28 overs
If nz win by 50 runs then Pakistan should win bt 177 runs or chase in 21 overs
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Vikram1989 said:
Pak has to win by 130 runs( existing run rate deficiency) plus 50 runs in case of batting first.

If they chase I think they have to chase it 21 overs less than the overs taken by nz against sl. I may be slightly wrong in chase scenario.
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Thanks guys.

Looking at that, they better hope it's a close game if NZ wins otherwise it becomes near impossible.

After that, the only viable option is to chase in the ENG game and try to keep them under 210.
 
Nope...still not happening lol.

Eventually it will come down to India smashing Pakistan in just 30 overs. Lots of NRR damage done there ...else Pakistan would have been in a much better situation.

Hitman's assualt that day might just be the difference between a WC Semi final at Eden Gardens and the return ticket to Lahore airport. :)
 
Mesozoic said:
Nope...still not happening lol.

Eventually it will come down to India smashing Pakistan in just 30 overs. Lots of NRR damage done there ...else Pakistan would have been in a much better situation.

Hitman's assualt that day might just be the difference between a WC Semi final at Eden Gardens and the return ticket to Lahore airport. :)
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Weather is not looking great so if NZ - SL game won't happen and Pakistan lost to England then Afghanistan just need a win to qualified for semifinals .
 
Swashbuckler said:
India vs Pakistan at Eden Gardens, imagine the hype and buildup.

Rohit vs Shaheen
Kohli vs Rauf
Fakhar vs Bumrah
Babar vs Kuldeep
.....

So many subplots, could create legacies.
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All good match ups, but Rauf? He is a cannon fodder... Just swinging your arms fast does not make your fast bowler, the guy has zero control and no cricketing intelligence. This is where Amir or even Hasan are so good, they have a thinking brain.
 
The scenario for Pakistan to qualify for the semi-final of ICC World Cup 2023 is as follows:

Wins: 4
Losses: 4
Net run rate: +0.036
Still to play: England (11 November)

Path to qualification:

* Win their remaining match to finish on 10 points, and finish with a higher net run rate than at least two of the other teams (Australia, New Zealand, Pakistan) that can also finish on 10 points

* Lose their remaining match to finish on eight points, hope New Zealand and Afghanistan lose all of their remaining matches, and finish with a higher net run rate than the many other teams that can finish on eight points​
 
daytrader said:
"I want Pakistan to qualify for semi-finals here [Kolkata], because there can’t be a bigger semi-final than India versus Pakistan,"- Sourav Ganguly to a local news channel
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According to Indian posters Nidhas trophy is better than Pak v India.

Ganguly clearly didnt get the memo.
 
Let's hope NZ win, if we make it to semis, first an epic phainta awaits, second there be no cleanup in the team and PCB, it's better if we don't reach semis and work on house cleanup.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
According to Indian posters Nidhas trophy is better than Pak v India.

Ganguly clearly didnt get the memo.
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Noting better than an India vs Pakistan contest. Not when it was one sided in favour of Pakistan in the 80's and the 90's, not now when it's one sided in India's favour.
 
Scenario without Run Rate:
Pakistan's best case-scenario is for them to beat England, for Sri Lanka to beat New Zealand, and for Afghanistan to lose their last two matches. Then, they will qualify without NRR coming into play.

Scenario with better Run Rate:
If New Zealand beat Sri Lanka even by a small margin, Pakistan will need to win their last game handily to overtake them on NRR.

Some Positive Vibes for Pakistan:
1. The advantage for Pakistan is that they will play the penultimate game of the league stage, so they will know exactly what they need to do to qualify.

2.Given that rain is forecast through the week in Bengaluru, there is also the possibility of New Zealand's last game being washed out; if that happens, they will finish with only nine points.
 
I hope that NZ and SL game is not washed. Even if there is a shortened game I would like that game to happen. It would be seriously unlucky and unfortunate for NZ to miss semifinals without having a chance to compete. It semi-felt like that in 2019 for us (though this year it would be even worse for NZ if they miss the game).

Once they've played out, we'll know exactly what needs to be done against England - no matter how unlikely it is. That would be the most fair. But if rain aided NZ last edition and denies them this edition - nothing anyone can do about it.

I could run some NRR calculations but it's pointless at moment because there are many permutations. Also, as for AFG, if they beat both Aus & SA to leapfrog both Pak & NZ then obviously it would be a very deserved and historic moment for them and for world cricket! It's been a good while that someone outside of the usual contenders have done anything like this in the 50 over format.
 
New Zealand vs SriLanka game has 85 % chances of rain predicted early on. Heavy showers predicted between 2 Pm to 6 pm.

Another reduced overs match in Bangalore, not sure about the result this time.
 
Sherazkhalid said:
I feel as long as we don't play Ind in knockout we have a chance, against Ind the players have some kind of mental block where they fail to perform against them but then there was CT 2017 Final as well, let's first qualify.
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saqib.rai said:
No no
Losing to India would cause such mental trauma that me and many like myself would be in deep sadness for years to come.

Its better if we don't qualify at all than to lose to India in knockout.
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I totally understand this sentiment - the Mohali Semifinal heartbreak was real but thankfully the emphatic CT 2017 wins against Eng and Ind in knockouts repaired everything 100%. Since then Pak team has given me plenty to cheer for - and the SF loss vs AUS and Finals loss vs ENG in last 2 WCs hurt but I get over it pretty quickly, because we always gave a fight and lost because we were obviously not the better team that day.

I have a lot of Indian coworkers and friends who I play cricket with every week - before the tournament and as far back as their loss to Eng in last year's T20 WC, I told all of them not to worry about Rohit Sharma and KL Rahul's form at the top, all Indian batsmen will be champs at home and they will go undefeated just like Aus of 2003 and 2007 and they were skeptical - and I still think they will go undefeated. Their bowling attack has just been the icing, cherry, gloss on top of the cake. No one is beating this side - but I'd still like Pak to compete and go to the semis. I'll take a semifinal bow out over a group stage elimination - it cements that we were a top 4 side at this tournament.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
New Zealand vs SriLanka game has 85 % chances of rain predicted early on. Heavy showers predicted between 2 Pm to 6 pm.

Another reduced overs match in Bangalore, not sure about the result this time.
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A friend of mine who’s in Bangalore right now mentioned it’s rained quite a bit today but doesn’t expect it to rain on match day to the point that it would be called off.

A shortened game helps SL anyway, though I still expect them to lose.
 
The way SL are playing even Faroe Islands side will give them a tough run, as for NZ man to man NZ are ahead of SL by 11-0 would be an upset if Sl wins there all hopes are whether Madhusanka to take 8/25 or Mendis to 150 ball 245.

Williamson alone is worth alone the whole Sl middle order, then Rachin is in a purple patch, Conway and Mitchell are great hounds there is World class genuine allrounder Santner and then the veterans like Figo and Rui Costa, Southee and Boult .

It will be lopsided contest with NZ coming on top
 
Kianig89 said:
The way SL are playing even Faroe Islands side will give them a tough run, as for NZ man to man NZ are ahead of SL by 11-0 would be an upset if Sl wins there all hopes are whether Madhusanka to take 8/25 or Mendis to 150 ball 245.

Williamson alone is worth alone the whole Sl middle order, then Rachin is in a purple patch, Conway and Mitchell are great hounds there is World class genuine allrounder Santner and then the veterans like Figo and Rui Costa, Southee and Boult .

It will be lopsided contest with NZ coming on top
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Only a heavy downpour (between 7 and 10 PM on Thursday) can save SL from an eventual defeat against NZ (provided the match prolongs till that time).
 
shariqnoor said:
Here are the NRR scenarios and they are really improbable.

If NZ bats first and wins the match by just 1 run, then Pakistan needs to win the match against England by 134 runs, if Pakistan bats first.

If NZ bats second and wins the match by chasing it in 45 overs, then Pakistan would need to chase their target in approximately 24.2 overs, if they bat second.

I guess, SL beating NZ is the most realistic scenario. Pakistan is too far behind on the NRR.
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Let’s hope for rain
 
Biggest hope is rained out game.
Second biggest hope is sl lose by tiny margin due to rain shortened game and then Pakistan beats England by 150 runs or whatever margin needed to qualify.
Last hope is sl defeat nz. It seems there was more chance Netherlands defeating south Africa than sl defeating nz.
 
Thursday will decide their fate.

one thing is for sure if Pakistan through to semis so they can lift the trophy for sure.
 
Sri lanka vs New Zealand match will be do or die for Pakistan. How many times have we heard this before?
Pakistan banking on other teams to qualify for KO stage is nothing new. SL needs to beat Kiwis or else NRR will come into play which is not an ideal situation for Pakistan team.
 
Let’s all swallow the bitter insecurities and show some spirit of sportsmanship.

A Bharat vs Pakistan semi final at Eden Gardens is everything that this World Cup deserves!!

Whoever loses, it’s ok.
No shake in losing to a top team.

If Bharat loses to Pakistan in the semis, it will hurt but it’s not like we would have lost to Zimbabwe or Bermuda. We would have lost to a team that chased down 400 with their backs to the wall. It would be our absolute pleasure to play Pakistan in the semis.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Sri lanka vs New Zealand match will be do or die for Pakistan. How many times have we heard this before?
Pakistan banking on other teams to qualify for KO stage is nothing new. SL needs to beat Kiwis or else NRR will come into play which is not an ideal situation for Pakistan team.
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Even if NZ win, Pakistan would have a chance to qualify by winning big.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Rain in Bangalore helping PAK twice in a row would be peak Qudrat ka Nizam.
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Bro if anything the rain saved NZ from the humiliation of officially letting Pakistan smash 400 chasing in a World Cup do or die kind of match. They were well on track for the ultimate heist ever in cricket (it still is in my eyes).
 
Bhaijaan said:
Let’s all swallow the bitter insecurities and show some spirit of sportsmanship.

A Bharat vs Pakistan semi final at Eden Gardens is everything that this World Cup deserves!!

Whoever loses, it’s ok.
No shake in losing to a top team.

If Bharat loses to Pakistan in the semis, it will hurt but it’s not like we would have lost to Zimbabwe or Bermuda. We would have lost to a team that chased down 400 with their backs to the wall. It would be our absolute pleasure to play Pakistan in the semis.
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A very sensible post showing positive spirit. Let's all hope for a good, entertaining match if it happens.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
India vs NZ match in the first round rained out in 2019. They took 1 point. India was in peak form. Again Rain helped NZ in the semi final against India. Same Rain is going to hurt them in 2023. Poetic.
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Pakistan vs SL was a washout too. Also NZ arguably beat India in SF because of rain. Qudrat ka nizam really helped NZ in 2019 but ultimately they didn't deserve to be champs and England became rightful champs
 
Much improved weather forecast for Thursday in Bangalore and with it, Pakistan’s chances of qualifying for the semis are all but gone.

Sri Lanka won’t beat the Kiwis and the run rate required for Pakistan to overtake the Kiwis is simply impossible.

The party is over for Pakistan.
 
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Hopefully it’s rained off 😁 don’t think I’d ever be happier for a rained off game.
 
chinaman00 said:
Much improved weather forecast for Thursday in Bangalore and with it, Pakistan’s chances of qualifying for the semis are all but gone.

Sri Lanka won’t beat the Kiwis and the run rate required for Pakistan to overtake the Kiwis is simply impossible.

The party is over for Pakistan.
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All weather forecasts I see are predicting at least 60% rain possibility.
 
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