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Pakistan's next coach - Who are the contenders?

Get some Indian Coaches with Ranjhi Trohpy experience at U16 and U19 and NCA.

Top is too late to be making changes.
 
Sangakarra would be great if he can accept the role. That guy has great insight into batting and is a shrewd character. Sanga as the head coach, ian pont as the bowling coach, any former baseball guy for fielding coach. There should also be a dietitian and a psychologist as part of the setup.
 
Indian batting coach who has experience at junior levels
Sangakara
Ian pont
Nasser Hussain
Vaughan
Atherton

Go English and Indian. England benefitted ROM our spin coaches so we must benefit from their batting coaches. Pay a fortune at grass roots level. Have a long rebuild but no short term fixes
 
Graeme Smith.
A career for folklores. And a competitor mentality that PCT lacks. As an analyst, he is much better than Clark/Sangakara.

Also we need a shrewd CS who actually bother to watch domestic FC matches.
 
NoBallZombie said:
Sangakarra would be great if he can accept the role. That guy has great insight into batting and is a shrewd character. Sanga as the head coach, ian pont as the bowling coach, any former baseball guy for fielding coach. There should also be a dietitian and a psychologist as part of the setup.
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Sanga will be the president of MCC. First Asian guy to hold the post.
 
Here for ppl pushing for coaches who they have seen talk about Pakistan with emotion
 
Make Rashid Latif the coach.
His analysis are impressive.
His patriotism is undeniable but at same time he does not hesitate to identify where opposition team perform better.
He will make sure PCT learns from even the opposition skills and strategies
and then make Basit ali assitant coach :36:
 
Mp812 said:
Make Rashid Latif the coach.
His analysis are impressive.
His patriotism is undeniable but at same time he does not hesitate to identify where opposition team perform better.
He will make sure PCT learns from even the opposition skills and strategies
and then make Basit ali assitant coach :36:
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But extremely introvert.
 
Get an Australian coach or an English coach from the county circuit with innovative mindset. If Pakistan has to go for the South African mercenaries again, then Gary Kristen would make a good coach. This in conjunction with the arrangements with the English counties to train upcoming talent and revamping domestic cricket structures will yield long term dividends; but people should be ready for a tumultuous reign in the short term.
 
coach cannot do wonders, just sack every single person in PCB, Ban Pakistani team for two years, reform your cricket infrastructure and make sure this time to hire someone who have passion for country like Misbah, Younus, Shoaib Akhter, Saqlain, Rashid latif. Select players who have passion for country and keep rotating players so they will know that we have to fight for our place. This nonsence of automatic selection should be thrown in the garbage.
 
They can hire Bradman if they wanted to but won’t make a ounce of a difference to these incompetent clowns. It’s the same cycle every 3-4yrs.

PCB needs to take a long hard look at how it operates too.
 
Any thoughts on Phil Simmons? the current Afghan coach and has spent time with Ireland. Did well with Ireland. He also spent time with the WI side as well. A lot of experience there working with developing players. After this WC we'll see a new side with Malik, Hafeez (most likely), Sarfaraz and Wahab (most likely) being discarded. We'll need a coach who can work with young developing players.
 
Someone who dosent laugh when our team is badly losing or in a pressure situation. Like seriously did Mickey Arthur not get the message that this is the WORLD CUP not some ODI series
 
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Mahela Jayawardene would be my first pick. He understands the Asian culture, and probably knows our players inside out given the million series we've played vs Sri Lanka in the last few years.

He was a tactically shrewd captain, and was a batting coach for England, as well as an IPL team coach. He also understands how to use specialist spinners unlike current management, and has played cricket in the modern era.
 
Bring who you want. It’s not like football where coach is most important. Getting the right captain who is strong, mentally tough, a leader and deserves to be in the team is more important.

You can get anyone as the coach but if players aren’t good enough, don’t learn and listen then nothing will change. Off course selection of the right players if there are any is needed.
 
If Mickey Arthur can let go his favoritism, then we should continue with him. Inzamam needs to go. Management needs to understand players like Imad, Fakhar, Shadab, Hasan, Shaheen, Hasnain or other PSL hacks cannot be fast tracked. Whoever comes has to build a team for next 5 to 7 years at least.

If not Mickey, go for some local coach who is qualified, knows about our culture, has brain for our first-class cricket and does not start any politics within team.
 
Mp812 said:
Make Rashid Latif the coach.
His analysis are impressive.
His patriotism is undeniable but at same time he does not hesitate to identify where opposition team perform better.
He will make sure PCT learns from even the opposition skills and strategies
and then make Basit ali assitant coach :36:
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Totally agree.

Rashid is a walking brain of our domestic cricket. His understanding of today's cricket is just incredible and I am sure he will give good results.
 
in_cutter said:
They can hire Bradman if they wanted to but won’t make a ounce of a difference to these incompetent clowns. It’s the same cycle every 3-4yrs.

PCB needs to take a long hard look at how it operates too.
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So true you could have Tendulkar, Akram, Magarth, Warne & Jhonty Rhodes. The problem is simple sort out grass roots level cricket and end nepotism. However this will never happen. Pak cricket is finished
 
There's only one name - Nasser Hussain.

With him and Wasim Khan at the helm, it is the perfect recipe for reform from bottom to top.
 
I would love to see Nassa coach Pakistan but he would bankrupt PCB with his high fees.
 
I doubt anyone is going to touch this team with a 10 ft pole. Security issues and then bad domestic infrastructure. Coaches are not miracle workers, if we fix base now, we won't see results for another 5 years. Who is going to persist with one coach with no results for so long. In short term a fielding coach can be helpful for sure.
 
Pakistan players need to learn some discipline. Anil Kumble or Sandeep Patil would make a good coach.
 
Markhor said:
Mahela Jayawardene would be my first pick. He understands the Asian culture, and probably knows our players inside out given the million series we've played vs Sri Lanka in the last few years.

He was a tactically shrewd captain, and was a batting coach for England, as well as an IPL team coach. He also understands how to use specialist spinners unlike current management, and has played cricket in the modern era.
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I’d take a punt on Mahela. But I feel any foreign coach needs a solid assistant Pakistani coach/manager who can bridge the language barrier yet let the foreigner run his show.

Another model is to have some like Wasim play the Shastri role and be the supreme head (Director or whatever title he finds fancy enough) with a low-key foreign batting coach that is not Grant and maybe a fielding coach. Wasim is probably the only whose danda will work on our players and is still tactically years ahead of any ex-player.
 
PCB needs to hire few Level 2-3 batting coaches (Proper batting coaches, I heard Basit Ali & Aquib Javed are Level 3-4 Coach!!!!) for junior level. National coach is more of a mentor - should be working with seasoned pros.

Few years back I created a big laugh here at PP, when I mentioned that BCB has hired at least a Dozen junior level batting coaches from SRL, who are working with U13 & U16 boys mostly. I think, now that's the only way to bridge the gap that has been created over decades long negligence & mismanagement. Batting is a methodical, process oriented job, a skill that's developed through system - don't think PAK has enough domestic resources for that.

Recently, I was reading an "expert" analysis in a FB page, written by an idiot; who has given lots of credit to Rhodes & Mackenzi for our batting, with lots of punch words & cricket jargon - as if through some chu mantar these two have touched the batsmen and they have changed their batting game, approach to batting & shot making ability!!! Lots of credit to both guys, but batting skills don't improve overnight unless fundamentals are strong and there are some basic platform upon which a top coach can build.

Like it or not, next few years of PAK cricket will be quite low - this is given, and don't tell me that you were not warned few years back. Only scope left is sacrifice a WC (PAK won't do jack in 2023 either), and prepare for 2027 WC, which is likely to be played in AUS or SAF - the start should be to focus on U19 players (genuine, PCB has to adjust buffer according to official age. 1-2 years is fine, but 5-7 years are killers) and develop them systematically - teaching proper batting techniques, and bowling fundamentals. Otherwise, already the mood I see in PP, if the nation as a whole becomes hopeless with cricket - that'll be the end of it.
 
MMHS said:
PCB needs to hire few Level 2-3 batting coaches (Proper batting coaches, I heard Basit Ali & Aquib Javed are Level 3-4 Coach!!!!) for junior level. National coach is more of a mentor - should be working with seasoned pros.

Few years back I created a big laugh here at PP, when I mentioned that BCB has hired at least a Dozen junior level batting coaches from SRL, who are working with U13 & U16 boys mostly. I think, now that's the only way to bridge the gap that has been created over decades long negligence & mismanagement. Batting is a methodical, process oriented job, a skill that's developed through system - don't think PAK has enough domestic resources for that.

Recently, I was reading an "expert" analysis in a FB page, written by an idiot; who has given lots of credit to Rhodes & Mackenzi for our batting, with lots of punch words & cricket jargon - as if through some chu mantar these two have touched the batsmen and they have changed their batting game, approach to batting & shot making ability!!! Lots of credit to both guys, but batting skills don't improve overnight unless fundamentals are strong and there are some basic platform upon which a top coach can build.

Like it or not, next few years of PAK cricket will be quite low - this is given, and don't tell me that you were not warned few years back. Only scope left is sacrifice a WC (PAK won't do jack in 2023 either), and prepare for 2027 WC, which is likely to be played in AUS or SAF - the start should be to focus on U19 players (genuine, PCB has to adjust buffer according to official age. 1-2 years is fine, but 5-7 years are killers) and develop them systematically - teaching proper batting techniques, and bowling fundamentals. Otherwise, already the mood I see in PP, if the nation as a whole becomes hopeless with cricket - that'll be the end of it.
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Do you think we should stop supporting the team?

Because they've been mediocre for the past 10 years and are probably getting worse.

There is no more talent to look forward to either.
 
Rayyman said:
Do you think we should stop supporting the team?

Because they've been mediocre for the past 10 years and are probably getting worse.

There is no more talent to look forward to either.
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Support will always be there - it's your country. But, what will happen is that cricket will go into a permanent down slide. NextGen lives on hope - if that hope isn't there gradually youngsters will move away from cricket. Only 10-12 teams play cricket seriously and PAK isn't good any other sports - so, there will be cricket played in PAK. But, cricket is still played in ZIM, just like soccer is still played in Hungary, Check/Slovak Republic - cricket will be played in PAK also like that, but expectation will be very low.
 
Idk about head coach but I think they should try to bring back Mushy to teach Shadab, Yasir and Imad some tricks.
 
Mamoon said:
Dean Jones seems like a natural option. He has expressed interest in the past and has already worked with many of the contemporary players in PSL.

Apart from the Champions Trophy, the Arthur and Sarfaraz combo has been a flop. They have been particularly disastrous in the Test arena, and in the last 12 months, they have been humiliated in Limited Overs apart from picking up some cheap wins in T20Is.

Both need to go along with other freeloaders of the coaching staff like Flower etc.
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I still believe that CT quality was good-work left by Waqar.
 
To be honest, after the Mickey experience, i am done with head coaches. Why not just leave it all to the captain and just give him an analyst, a batting, bowling, fielding coach, a fitness trainer, dietician, chef e.t.c? Let the captain be in charge and make him responsible for selecting the best 11.
 
Coaching T20 franchise cricket is very different to coaching an international team. Dean Jones has no experience coaching an international team. In an ideal world the best candidate for the coaching spot would be Anil Kumble, he would bring discipline and method, can speak the language to a great extent and will understand the culture. But obviously that wont happen. I think Mahela could be an option. More importnantly we need distinct fast bowling and spin bowling coaches. Why not someone like Yasir Arafat who played so much Ltd over cricket as fast bowling coach and Saqi as spin coach.
 
I always see Wasim Akram giving bowling tips to various players around the world. Why can't pak hire him as the bowling coach?
 
Pakistan needs a coach who will be relaxed yet effective. A dictator-like coach will probably not work well with Pakistan.

Why not make Misbah the coach? I think he has a good brain and he is a very calm character.
 
msb314 said:
Imad can be a decent captain but the fact that he is in and out of the team does not help matters at all.

Fakhar is a tullaybaaz and I fear that his days are numbered as well - especially once Mickey leaves.
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Imad is useless, He should be out of current Team Squad.
He has achieved very little as spinner.
 
I miss those days when Spin was wow Mushtaq Ahmed aka Mushi and Saqlain Mushtaq Era
Now we see Dug Spinners like Imad Wasim , Who only control balls Pace to do hit and run thing.
Afridi was way better spinner than Imad wasim thou.

In this world-cup i have seen good spinners do great stuff in India and Afghanistan Team
 
chinaman00 said:
Get an Australian coach or an English coach from the county circuit with innovative mindset. If Pakistan has to go for the South African mercenaries again, then Gary Kristen would make a good coach. This in conjunction with the arrangements with the English counties to train upcoming talent and revamping domestic cricket structures will yield long term dividends; but people should be ready for a tumultuous reign in the short term.
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I am Fan of Gary Kristen , His Bat and Field Skills awesome.
 
There’s one guy that comes to mind who has the cricketing know how and can get the Pakistani players disciplined and playing with aggression, if he’s willing to get involved in coaching that is - a former team mate in Sheffield Shield of our Prime Minister who could personally call him and convince him to take on this challenge - one thing for sure , that bloke takes no nonsense and will separate the men from the boys in this team.
 
Gotta have Wasim Akram on board full time as bowling coach/director.

Though I really like Mahela Jayawardene as coach or Dean Jones, I'm unsure about foreign coach now. It may be language barrier or understanding issue. But something definitely doesn't gel well between the players and foreign coach. Maybe give the head coach to a Pakistani coach on an interim basis to see how he goes & to check if there is evident progress.
 
Majid Khan said:
There’s one guy that comes to mind who has the cricketing know how and can get the Pakistani players disciplined and playing with aggression, if he’s willing to get involved in coaching that is - a former team mate in Sheffield Shield of our Prime Minister who could personally call him and convince him to take on this challenge - one thing for sure , that bloke takes no nonsense and will separate the men from the boys in this team.
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Ian Chapell?
 
Muhammad Sahal said:
tom moody

stephen flimming

shan bond
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If any of the above throw there hat in the ring then they need to be given assurances from the very top that what they say goes. No ifs/buts they can get rid of any trouble makers faster than clinking your fingers and everything sanctioned by the people at the top. Player's will then realise that running to media or creating clicks will have no impact. That is the Only way forward for this team.
 
Mohsin Khan just resign from his post.
He is our Future coach

He believes on motivation and game planning

He wil make our mediocre players ATG with his planning and motivation.
 
Dean Jones. But as a manager.
Combine the positions of Head Coach and Chief of selectors and fire both Mickey and Inzimam.

Dean Jones can be both Head Coach and Chief Selector,

Also please make the likes of Ramiz ,Waqar & Wasim as junior selectors, this way we can be spared of their commentary for good.
 
Mueez said:
Pak head coach - Dean Jones
Pak batting coach - Mohammad Yousaf
Pak fast bowling coach - Waqar Younis
Pak fielding coach - Steve Rixon (if possible to get him again)
Pak wicket keeping coach - Atiq uz Zaman
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Don't think the TJ types like Yousuf and Inzi would make good coaches, at least for cricket.

Younis Khan would make a good batting coach for Pakistan.
 
Hypothetically how would Misbah be as coach. Dont think he'd be much of an ego trip and isn't a hugely controversial figure .He was a decent player and a good record as captain. Pair him up with a Babar captaincy perhaps?
 
plus Misbah seems like someone who could value fitness and since he's recently retired has some notion of modern day cricket
 
Also Waqar as bowling coach. Asif and Amir were amazing under him and Umar Gul improved drastically under him.
 
TheNightWatchman said:
Hypothetically how would Misbah be as coach. Dont think he'd be much of an ego trip and isn't a hugely controversial figure .He was a decent player and a good record as captain. Pair him up with a Babar captaincy perhaps?
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Great minds think alike .:misbah3
 
I know that he is associated with Kings XI Punjab and he resigned as the head coach of New Zealand in recent time and might not want to take on this full time job but if somehow PCB can get MIKE HESSON in, that will be a massive coup. He is a fabulous tactician and helped New Zealand cricket massively in finding the position that they find themselves in.

Pakistan need a tactician not the rediculous cliches speaking jazba, janoon, deleri non sense.
 
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Fantasy said:
I know that he is associated with Kings XI Punjab and he resigned as the head coach of New Zealand in recent time and might not want to take on this full time job but if somehow PCB can get MIKE HESSON in, that will be a massive coup. He is a fabulous tactician and helped New Zealand cricket massively in finding the position that they find themselves in.

Pakistan need a tactician not the rediculous cliches speaking jazba, janoon, deleri non sense.
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Excellent shout. Gary kirsten is also available and interested in england role.
 
I suspect the next coach will be a paksitani. They need a stronger link to the domestic set up.
 
Majid Khan said:
There’s one guy that comes to mind who has the cricketing know how and can get the Pakistani players disciplined and playing with aggression, if he’s willing to get involved in coaching that is - a former team mate in Sheffield Shield of our Prime Minister who could personally call him and convince him to take on this challenge - one thing for sure , that bloke takes no nonsense and will separate the men from the boys in this team.
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Good pick but never happening. Too busy with writing, producing, and running a foundation. Plus I feel he’s moved on from cricket completely just like his former team mate did after winning the cup.
 
Manik Rao said:
Ian Chapell?
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I was thinking of Steve Waugh, actually - the kind of chap who has the cricketing experience and personal qualities to teach these kids a thing or two about professionalism, mental toughness, and fighting out on the field. He would not take any crap from anyone - be it from players , selectors or anyone else and that’s the kind of character you need as coach for Pakistan team.

In some ways Waugh is similar to Imran Khan himself and Ian Chappell incidentally in their roles as captains of their countries, with their no- nonsense approach.
 
Majid Khan said:
I was thinking of Steve Waugh, actually - the kind of chap who has the cricketing experience and personal qualities to teach these kids a thing or two about professionalism, mental toughness, and fighting out on the field. He would not take any crap from anyone - be it from players , selectors or anyone else and that’s the kind of character you need as coach for Pakistan team.

In some ways Waugh is similar to Imran Khan himself and Ian Chappell incidentally in their roles as captains of their countries, with their no- nonsense approach.
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Actually when Mickey was appointed that's exactly what we were told that Mickey is very astute and does not take any nonsense from anyone. Then the team was caught having shisha 7 hours before the India match.


You just got conned :ma
 
Dean Jones or Graeme Smith (they both have passion and emotions for Pak cricket and also have M.Asif as a bowling coach
 
Pakistan should take their time when finding their next coach. If Arthur does get sacked I’d appoint someone like Intikhab Alam (old is gold) or even Azhar Mahmood as a caretaker and spend a good few months interviewing for the next permanent coach.
 
1. Shane Bond

2. Jason Gillespie

3. Tom Moody

4. Stephen Fleming

5. Gary Kirsten

6. Mohammad Wasim


are the names I am interested in.





Shoaib Akhtar should be fast bowling coach at NCA and Yousuf should be made Coach of Pakistan Under 19 and Pakistan A team.
 
Who should be the next Head Coach for Pakistan if not Mickey?

I personally think if we can get Wasim Akram for the job that will be best. Other then that listening to others as analysts I dont think any of the local guys can get the job done. Saqlain/Mushtaq can work as spin bowling coaches but we lack an international quality local coach.

Somehow we also have a bias of not paying the worth to our cricketers(read:younas or Wasim) but willing to throw money at white skin. The amount of time 12k dollars salary of Azhar Mehmood quoted in our media was not even funny anymore.

Mickey made a lot of tactical mistakes from asia cup to this world cup. But I think he was atleast successful in kicking out the akmals.
 
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