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Panamagate Case: Supreme Court disqualifies Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in unanimous verdict

So they see IK`s views on PSL something worth discussing but not the cancer that is destroying our beautiful country. I said on another thread that their morals would even embarrass my alley cat. And the pretence of i am not a Noora but..... really gets on my nerve. At least be honest guys- you support a corrupt PM, who has systematically destroyed the institutions that were supposed to be a check on him but you want IK( who once again was proved right) to go through these corrupt institutions to get justice.

That is what winds me up, the gutless-ness. Atleast admit who you support. They'd be taken more seriously as 'neutrals' if I ever heard them criticise PMLN. But I don't. Their leaders do not have any guts, not surprised their supports are the same.
 
So they see IK`s views on PSL something worth discussing but not the cancer that is destroying our beautiful country. I said on another thread that their morals would even embarrass my alley cat. And the pretence of i am not a Noora but..... really gets on my nerve. At least be honest guys- you support a corrupt PM, who has systematically destroyed the institutions that were supposed to be a check on him but you want IK( who once again was proved right) to go through these corrupt institutions to get justice.

Almost all my Nooni (open and hidden) friends on social media have declared Imran Khan enemy of state because he spoke against holding PSL final in Lahore. So Imran is anti Pakistan & traitor for opposing PSL final in Pakistan and these people don't even consider Imran's cricket achievements a big deal. It's quite ironic that same group of people have absolutely no problem with Nawaz Sharif and family stashing billions overseas because "At least they have built some roads and bridges in Lahore".:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
 
Almost all my Nooni (open and hidden) friends on social media have declared Imran Khan enemy of state because he spoke against holding PSL final in Lahore. So Imran is anti Pakistan & traitor for opposing PSL final in Pakistan and these people don't even consider Imran's cricket achievements a big deal. It's quite ironic that same group of people have absolutely no problem with Nawaz Sharif and family stashing billions overseas because "At least they have built some roads and bridges in Lahore".:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

In cricket forum today, no problem with Nawaz as he has done some ''good work'' but massive problem with cricketers who have fixed BUT HAVE BEEN PUNISHED and atleast haven't ruined millions of lives.

The moral compass some people have in order to arrive at such thinking....I really want to know.
 
Also have you guys seen the interview, 35 minute, Kashif Abassi did with Nawaz's son's lawyer? He mauled him completely. :91:
 
Rauf Klasra saying verdict is probably coming on 9,10 or 11; or the end of March.

Dr Shahid Masood saying sources in PM house say verdict is coming against PM.

:misbah: :maqsood
 
What does it say when Nawaz Sharif can be implicated in this scam and is yet the favourite to win the 2018 elections ahead of the likes of Imran Khan or Bhutto?
 
What does it say when Nawaz Sharif can be implicated in this scam and is yet the favourite to win the 2018 elections ahead of the likes of Imran Khan or Bhutto?

Things in Pakistan can change at the drop of a hat. If Nawaz is disqualified then a large chunk of their supporters will abstain or change loyalties (something they are very renowned for). Also expect alot of their politicians to jump ship and join other parties further weakening the Noora league.

Bhutto has zero chance.
 
What does it say when Nawaz Sharif can be implicated in this scam and is yet the favourite to win the 2018 elections ahead of the likes of Imran Khan or Bhutto?

Same can be said about Modi in regards to the Gujarat riots. I am a big critic of Nawaz and PMLN but even with all the corruption, they do visible work for the people, which cannot be said for PPP. PTI, a party that really only took off 6 years ago, has given a fair challenge to the Nawaz government and to be honest the impact of panama leaks can't really be measured yet. Historically, Nawaz has maintained an image of a pious and religious person, which will be difficult for him to maintain now.
 
What does it say when Nawaz Sharif can be implicated in this scam and is yet the favourite to win the 2018 elections ahead of the likes of Imran Khan or Bhutto?

That people will still be fooled. People still support Zaradri and PMLN is all you need to know.
 
What does it say when Nawaz Sharif can be implicated in this scam and is yet the favourite to win the 2018 elections ahead of the likes of Imran Khan or Bhutto?

An average PMLN supporters see Nawaz Sharif as soft spoken person who is very humble, down to earth and business friendly and loves to build mega projects like motorways, metro bus and train projects.
His opponents see him as extremely corrupt person who always puts his/family interests ahead of country, uses government to expand his and family business, hates to pay taxes to Pakistan, promotes vip culture, nepotism, damages insitutions and has fake personality of humble, down to earth and Sharif person.

Even his supporters known very well he is corrupt and Panama case has exposed him even more but heavy majority of his supporters believe "Nawaz Sharif Kuch khata hai tou kuch lagata bhi hai" which means panama outcome won't make much difference since he has built a metro train in this tenure.

Imran Khan has focused more on education, environment, tourism, health, police & institutional reforms and most of these can't really by SEEN and honestly an average person in Punjab doesn't care what Imran/PTI is doing in KPK because Nawaz is giving them train and roads not Imran and Punjab is 60% of Pakistan so Nawaz is likely to win again in 2018.
 
Panamagate boils down to authenticity of leaked documents

ISLAMABAD: While members of the five-judge Supreme Court bench that conducted marathon hearings into the Panama Papers scandal are busy authoring what is being billed as one of the most important judgements in the country’s history, speculation is rife about what the outcome of the case may be.

Before closing the final hearing into Panamagate, the bench announced on Feb 23 that their decision would have to be one that remained relevant and valid for at least 20 years.

The case filed by various petitioners — Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf chief Imran Khan, Jamaat-i-Islami emir Sirajul Haq and Sheikh Rashid Ahmed — essentially seeks disqualification of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif over his alleged misstatement in his address to the nation on April 5 and his speech before the National Assembly on May 16, 2016.

The petitioners claim that the prime minister lied about the investments made by his children in offshore companies, which led to the acquisition of four apartments in London’s upscale Park Lane neighbourhood.

While nobody is willing to stick their neck out, there is a general consensus that whatever the court’s decision, it will strengthen the apex court’s powers to intervene for the enforcement of citizens’ fundamental rights in future cases.

“It is difficult to guess what dimension [of the case] the Supreme Court will consider while writing the judgement, since there were many that came to light during the proceedings,” a senior lawyer said on condition of anonymity.

He said that it was too early to presume whether the court would actually consider the papers released by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) or not.

Legal experts say Sharif family’s failure to challenge leak’s veracity ‘amounts to admission’

The court could focus on the controversy regarding the admissibility of the material that had been placed on the record, he added.

During proceedings, the bench repeatedly raised doubts over the evidentiary value of the Panama Papers and the newspaper clippings filed before it.

On different occasions, the court dubbed the documents submitted by both sides “hearsay”, highlighting that both the leaked documents and the Qatari letters did not meet the stringent criteria of the Qanoon-i-Shahadat (Law of Evidence).

Supreme Court Bar Associa*tion (SCBA) President Rasheed A. Rizvi was of the view that it would be difficult for the court to accept or reject the documents contained in the Panama Papers leaks, since they had not been submitted under oath by a witness, who could have been cross-examined to determine the authenticity of their source.

At the same time, the Sharif family and other respondents have not questioned or denied the allegations contained in the documents.

“In numerous countries authorities [have] launched investigations based on the Panama Papers revelations,” said Frederik Obermaier, investigative reporter at the German publication Süddeutsche Zeitung, which first obtained the Panama Papers documents.

The European Union (EU) formed a Committee of Inquiry into Money Laundering, Tax Avoidance and Tax Evasion to investigate the Panama Papers revelations.

In Iceland, Prime Minister Sigmundur Davíð Gunnlaugsson failed to explain his links with Wintris Inc, a company in the British Virgin Islands that held shares in one of Iceland’s failed banks, leading to his eventual resignation.

Former UK prime minister David Cameron had to face embarrassment when it emerged that his late father’s offshore investment fund Blairmore Holdings Inc. did not pay any UK taxes on its profits.

In addition, Britain’s Chancellor of the Exchequer Philip Hammond told parliament in Nov 2016 that 22 people were under investigation for tax evasion and 43 high net-worth individuals were “under examination”, the Guardian reported.

In Malta, Prime Minister Joseph Muscat is under increasing pressure after the EU committee described a case involving his cabinet minister, Konrad Mizzi, as a “textbook case of money laundering”.

In Hong Kong, Reuters reported that the Financial Services and Treasury Bureau is looking to impose anti-money laundering laws on non-financial businesses and requiring private companies to disclose their true owners.

And in Panama, the country thrust into the global spotlight as the tax haven of choice for those looking to stash their wealth, the two owners of Mossack Fonseca have been charged with money laundering and destroying evidence of a bribery scandal.

“To my knowledge, apart from Pakistan, the authenticity of the Panama Papers documents has not been seriously questioned in court in any country worldwide,” Mr Obermaier said when asked about the veracity of the documents.

Accepting the legal principle involved, senior counsel Chaudhry Faisal Hussain said that the Sharif family’s failure to challenge the Panama Papers’ veracity in any court in Pakistan or abroad amounted to an admission.

“The message is more important than the messenger,” he said, recalling that one of the judges on the bench hearing the Panamagate case had observed that the allegations levelled by the petitioners did not seem frivolous.

But in the opinion of former additional attorney general Tariq Khokhar, the Panama Papers contains the official records of certain offshore companies, which does have an intrinsic evidentiary value.

“They were the basis of the Supreme Court case,” he said, “hence their evidentiary value cannot be denied. But it is for the judges to decide whether or not they are sufficient basis for a finding against the prime minister.”

He pointed out that UK’s parliament had deemed the Panama Papers sufficient proof for a complete disclosure from former prime minister David Cameron.

“But here, there has not been any disclosure; neither before parliament nor in the Supreme Court,” Mr Khokhar said.



Source: https://www.dawn.com/news/1318093/panamagate-boils-down-to-authenticity-of-leaked-documents
 
^^ Nice read, it would be a massive disaster if Nawaz Sharif gets away with this. I think only thing that may save him is his link to the properties but then Hudaibia paper mills case may come handy.

Also, judges should not take Nawaz's conflicting statements and blatant lies in parliament lightly.
 
Justice Asif Saeed Khosa's addition to the poem 'Pity the Nation' which was used in Yusuf Raza Gilani verdict:

Pity the nation that achieves nationhood in the name of a religion

but pays little heed to truth, righteousness and accountability

which are the essence of every religion.

Pity the nation that proclaims democracy as its polity

but restricts it to queuing up for casting of ballots only

and discourages democratic values.

Pity the nation that measures honour with success

and respect with authority,

that despises sublime and cherishes mundane,

that treats a criminal as a hero and considers civility as weakness

and that deems a sage a fool and venerates the wicked.

Pity the nation that adopts a Constitution

but allows political interests to outweigh constitutional diktat.

Pity the nation that demands justice for all

but is agitated when justice hurts its political loyalty.

Pity the nation whose servants treat their solemn oaths

as nothing more than a formality before entering upon an office.

Pity the nation that elects a leader as a redeemer

but expects him to bend every law to favour his benefactors.

Pity the nation whose leaders seek martyrdom

through disobeying the law

than giving sacrifices for the glory of law

and who see no shame in crime.

Pity the nation that is led by those

who laugh at the law

little realizing that the law shall have the last laugh.

Pity the nation that launches a movement for rule of law

but cries foul when the law is applied against its bigwig,

that reads judicial verdicts through political glasses

and that permits skills of advocacy to be practised

more vigorously outside the courtroom than inside.

Pity the nation that punishes its weak and poor

but is shy of bringing its high and mighty to book.

Pity the nation that clamours for equality before law

but has selective justice close to its heart.

Pity the nation that thinks from its heart

and not from its head.

Indeed, pity the nation

that does not discern villainy from nobility.
 
Justice Asif Saeed Khosa's addition to the poem 'Pity the Nation' which was used in Yusuf Raza Gilani verdict:

Pity the nation that achieves nationhood in the name of a religion

but pays little heed to truth, righteousness and accountability

which are the essence of every religion.

Pity the nation that proclaims democracy as its polity

but restricts it to queuing up for casting of ballots only

and discourages democratic values.

Pity the nation that measures honour with success

and respect with authority,

that despises sublime and cherishes mundane,

that treats a criminal as a hero and considers civility as weakness

and that deems a sage a fool and venerates the wicked.

Pity the nation that adopts a Constitution

but allows political interests to outweigh constitutional diktat.

Pity the nation that demands justice for all

but is agitated when justice hurts its political loyalty.

Pity the nation whose servants treat their solemn oaths

as nothing more than a formality before entering upon an office.

Pity the nation that elects a leader as a redeemer

but expects him to bend every law to favour his benefactors.

Pity the nation whose leaders seek martyrdom

through disobeying the law

than giving sacrifices for the glory of law

and who see no shame in crime.

Pity the nation that is led by those

who laugh at the law

little realizing that the law shall have the last laugh.

Pity the nation that launches a movement for rule of law

but cries foul when the law is applied against its bigwig,

that reads judicial verdicts through political glasses

and that permits skills of advocacy to be practised

more vigorously outside the courtroom than inside.

Pity the nation that punishes its weak and poor

but is shy of bringing its high and mighty to book.

Pity the nation that clamours for equality before law

but has selective justice close to its heart.

Pity the nation that thinks from its heart

and not from its head.

Indeed, pity the nation

that does not discern villainy from nobility.

Nice thanks for sharing
 
Former Chief Justice Sajjad Ali Shah died today. He was the CJ to stand against Nawaz so Noonies had to attack Supreme Court.

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un

Interestingly just a few weeks ago another former CJ of Supreme Court Justice Saeeduzzaman Siddiqui
died and he was the another character when that Supreme Court attack happened he saved Nawaz face there.
 
Win or lose this case I'm waiting for Nawaz to come see the PSL final in Lahore and the entire stadium starts chanting "Go Nawaz Go". Now that would be epic.

Wow, this really did happen! :steyn :)))
Edit: Was only referring to the chants, not the great man's presence. :mc
 
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So guys, multiple reports indicating that a judgement will be coming either today or tomorrow..What are your predictions? :broad
 
So guys, multiple reports indicating that a judgement will be coming either today or tomorrow..What are your predictions? :broad

To be honest, it totally depends on how daring are judges. They have excuses to give any decision with valid argument like lack of evidence but in reality they also live in this world and aren't really kids. With Qatari stories, lies in the parlimanent, fake documents, conflicting statements, they all know what the reality is. If they are committed enough, they can easily punish Nawaz Sharif and create history.

By declaring NAB, FBR as useless, they have all but confirmed that no solid proof is possible so they can't really blame PTI for lack of proof unless they are happy to give PTI power to control NAB/FBR (which obviously is never going to happen).
 
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To be honest, it totally depends on how daring are judges. They have excuses to give any decision with valid argument like lack of evidence but in reality they also live in this world and aren't really kids. With Qatari stories, lies in the parlimanent, fake documents, conflicting statements, they all know what the reality is. If they are committed enough, they can easily punish Nawaz Sharif and create history.

By declaring NAB, FBR as useless, they have all but confirmed that no solid proof is possible so they can't really blame PTI for lack of proof unless they are happy to give PTI power to control NAB/FBR (which obviously is never going to happen).

There may not be disqualification under article 62-63, I'm personally hoping for suspension of the Prime Minister while an investigation takes place with all investigation authorities under Supreme Court jurisdiction.
 
There may not be disqualification under article 62-63, I'm personally hoping for suspension of the Prime Minister while an investigation takes place with all investigation authorities under Supreme Court jurisdiction.

Good enough for me but then it comes down to investigations by same institutions that Supreme court has absolutely no confidence in. I don't think supreme court has enough powers to control how NAB/FBR will carry out investigations. This may even go in Sharifs favour as SC may not want to go into all these hassles. Anything less than disqualification/suspension or further investigation would be a JOKE of an outcome.
 
I think this Supreme Court can make a commission which has all other investigating bodies under its umbrella.
 
I don't think any decision is coming against Sharif but phr dil main se awaz utheti he ke jitne furstrate is time PMLN waale nazer aa rahe hen kuch acha hone he wala he :13:
 
I don't think any decision is coming against Sharif but phr dil main se awaz utheti he ke jitne furstrate is time PMLN waale nazer aa rahe hen kuch acha hone he wala he :13:

Yaar kyun umeedon pe pani phaair rahay ho
 
Yaar kyun umeedon pe pani phaair rahay ho

read it again i was saying ke jitne frustrate PMLN waale nazer aa rahe hen aaj kal is se to yehi lagta he faisla inke khilaaf aa raha he...
 
I don't think any decision is coming against Sharif but phr dil main se awaz utheti he ke jitne furstrate is time PMLN waale nazer aa rahe hen kuch acha hone he wala he :13:

It has been made very suspenseful. I find myself checking Pakistani news every now and then to see if there is any update. For me, this is really the last ray of hope for Pakistan and if the Sharifs get a clean chit now, I just don't see any point of recovery from there onwards.
 
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Not alot of representation of those who support Nawaz Sharif :afridi
 
So not a single pmln supoorter in top 10 :13:

The Nooras do read these comments and are humiliated. Daddy has been caught red handed but ego and dishonesty are holding them back from the obvious conclusion.
 
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Those who play down this issue, Rauf Klasra and Amir Mateen in their show Muqabil said today that India has taken action against those involved in Panama and likely to recover Rs10,000 crore from tax evaders. Now i don't know if the figures are correct but that is HUGE amount of money (probably billions of $) and considering how many Pakitanis were named, if our own PM was not involved and we had functioning institutions we could have recovered hundreds of millions of dollars (if not billions).
 
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Not alot of representation of those who support Nawaz Sharif :afridi

So not a single pmln supoorter in top 10 :13:

The Nooras do read these comments and are humiliated. Daddy has been caught red handed but ego and dishonesty are holding them back from the obvious conclusion.

Hey not my place to point this out maybe, but I saw similar enthusiasm from Imran supporters in the last huge elections thread while others kept quiet. So much chest thumping and optimism. Then reality happened. Maybe wait for the actual verdict before gloating?
 
Hey not my place to point this out maybe, but I saw similar enthusiasm from Imran supporters in the last huge elections thread while others kept quiet. So much chest thumping and optimism. Then reality happened. Maybe wait for the actual verdict before gloating?

Since this is a cricket forum, why do we discuss upcoming matches, series, tours, selections, upcoming talent, predictions? For that matter, why do we create match threads while it is being played and why don't we wait till the match is over??
 
The Nooras do read these comments and are humiliated. Daddy has been caught red handed but ego and dishonesty are holding them back from the obvious conclusion.

They never comment so they can later claim they don't support him.

Getting tired now, what is taking so long in announcing the damn decision?
 
They never comment so they can later claim they don't support him.

Getting tired now, what is taking so long in announcing the damn decision?

Now people are saying decision will be released at the start of next week. :45:
 
I'm growing very impatient with the judges now. Are they waiting for the money transfer to go through for them to release it in Nooras favour?
 
I'm growing very impatient with the judges now. Are they waiting for the money transfer to go through for them to release it in Nooras favour?

I agree. What is the wait for? Announce the damned result.

PMLN also seems to be announcing projects left, right and center. They seem at ease. It makes me uneasy.
 
Ayaz Amir
Is the wheel about to turn? Is the nation, which has known its share of turmoil and turbulence, once again on the cusp of change? People---by which I mean the political class and the TV chat show-watching public---are expectant, waiting for something. I have been these past two or three days in Lahore and every time you meet someone the question is the same: what is going to happen?
The reference of course is to the verdict in the Panama case. What is it going to be and what is it going to spell for the longest-ruling dynasty in Pakistani politics? Let not the Najam Sethis and the PML-N darbaris fool themselves or the public at large. The PSL final---some would call it the PSL tamasha---was a passing phenomenon, here today, gone tomorrow. It generated some excitement and a good deal of media nonsense. Some of the articles in pro-PML-N newspapers have to be read to be believed---describing the match in terms usually reserved for the decisive battles of history.
We have been assured that as a result of the match national unity stands further strengthened and terrorism has suffered a body-blow. Or that Pakistan has won and terrorism defeated---much drivel on these lines.
Hardly had the lights dimmed in Qaddafi Stadium when insurgents from across the Durand Line attacked three military posts in Mohmand Agency leading to the deaths of five soldiers. The ISPR in a statement said the attack was repulsed and 15 terrorists were killed. Five military deaths is not a small matter. Furthermore, a captain and a soldier were killed in Swabi in an exchange of gunfire with insurgents or terrorists, whatever we call them. The insurgent threat has been pushed back. It hasn’t gone away and it will take more than a hyped-up cricket match for it to be vanquished and eliminated.
The larger question over the national scene is posed by the Panama case. It has triggered all kinds of speculation because serious issues of corruption and misstatements are involved and if the verdict goes against the prime minister and his family, who are at the centre of this case, the country could be in for anything.
The verdict…only the angels would know what it’s going to be. But the ruling family is worried and the ruling party is on tenterhooks. Five judges and it’s almost as if they hold the country’s future in the palms of their hands.
This is a unique moment in Pakistan’s history. Judges previously have delivered momentous judgments. Martial laws have been endorsed, not once but repeatedly, and a prime minister, remember, was once sent to the gallows. Dismissed prime ministers from Sindh---Muhammad Khan Junejo and Benazir Bhutto---could get no succour from the courts. But a prime minister from Punjab---Nawaz Sharif---was restored to his office after being dismissed through presidential decree…similar circumstances but different outcomes, prompting critics and cynics to level charges of double standards.
From Justice Munir who first articulated the ‘doctrine of necessity’ to Chief Justice Anwar-ul-haq who upheld Bhutto’s death sentence, to Chief Justice Irshad Hasan Khan who validated Gen Musharraf’s coup d’etat, and even bestowed upon him the right to amend the constitution, the higher judiciary bowed to expediency or collaborated with the powers that be. The apex court showed a remarkable sense of independence when it came to Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudry’s restoration. But that was it. In other major decisions it tilted towards the demands or requirements of the executive power.
This time it is different. The Khosa bench hearing the Panama case is its own master, answerable only to its own sense of right and wrong. Whichever way it goes it will do soon on its own volition, guided by its own understanding of the law and the requirements of justice.
The PML-N would have pressured it if it could. After all, this is the same party that stormed the Supreme Court and forced Chief Justice Sajjad Ali Shah, who has just died, to wrap his robes around him and scurry off from his court in a state bordering on panic. But the PML-N today is a weakened party and not the same thing that it was in 1998 when that memorable assault on the Supreme Court took place. It is thus not in its power to try anything like the same antic. The army would not allow it and other political forces, like Imran Khan’s PTI, would also be in the way.
So the PML-N even as it fears or suspects the worst is left to mutter empty threats---as those sounded by ministers like Saad Rafique and Rana Sanaullah---and grind its teeth. Other remedies which it would have liked, like bending the judges to its will, are not available to it.
Be it remembered that throughout his long political innings, the longest in Pakistan’s history, Nawaz Sharif has always found favour and indulgence from the courts. Cases and allegations that would have felled and destroyed other politicians have left him and his family unscathed.
No PPP prime minister could have escaped the Asghar Khan case---involving substantial sums of money distributed by the ISI during the 1990 elections to a host of politicians including Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif. It would have been hard for any other political figure to survive the Model Town massacre---14 dead and scores injured by police firing. Which politician would have survived Ishaq Dar’s money-laundering confessions? The Sharifs have proved to be the great untouchables of Pakistani politics.
Until now, that is…for this is the first time in their long, chequered history when Nawaz Sharif and his immediate family, both sons and the daughter, are implicated in a potentially damaging case before a bench of the apex court and they are helpless, bereft of ideas and remedies.
The defence offered by the Sharif family through their lawyers, in the form of the Qatari letters and nothing else, has provoked laughter across the land, the phrase ‘Qatari letters’ turning into a national joke. Anyone at a loss for an answer regarding anything---a tax matter or any other financial matter---is tempted to say that he will bring a letter from Qatar or Bahrain or some other desert emirate.
But the importance of this case far transcends the fortunes of the Sharif family. It is not just they on trial. In a way the nation or rather the whole concept of Pakistani justice is on trial. Thus any verdict, anything, is likely to set off a chain of repercussions, good or bad, uplifting or downright cynical.
One casualty is already clear: the Sharif reputation. There were always things hurled at the Sharifs but they could shrug them off as unproven allegations. The Panama hearings have nailed specific things down---undisclosed properties and funds hidden overseas, and allegations of money-laundering for which, from the Sharif side, there have been no satisfactory answers.
Even if they survive the storm it won’t be the same for them again. Such stains as they have received are not washed away in a hurry.
 
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Haan bhai next Monday ahraha hai result? All the analysts seem to think it'll come "early next week", but I don't believe them anymore. At the start of last week they said "sometime this week", then around mid-week they said "definitely on Friday". Friday came and went and now they are giving new manjan of early next week. All the analysts say that the judgement has been reserved AND written down, then what is the delay in releasing it?
 
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Haan bhai next Monday ahraha hai result? All the analysts seem to think it'll come "early next week", but I don't believe them anymore. At the start of last week they said "sometime this week", then around mid-week they said "definitely on Friday". Friday came and went and now they are giving new manjan of early next week. All the analysts say that the judgement has been reserved AND written down, then what is the delay in releasing it?

True this delay is looking strange if the judgement has been reserved and written down why not announce it? first we were told that the decision is delayed because of that 6/7 countries conf in Pak and now we are being told that it's being delayed because 23 march is coming :13:

Btw i heard Princess Maryam is back in town? If she is back thn why Dawn Leaks manjan is being sold to public by press releases after every Corps Commanders Conference?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CCC held at GHQ. Reviewed geo-pol and IS situation incl Pak-Afg bdr/ LOC. Op RuF, NAP, Mil Courts, Population Census & Dawn Leaks discussed. <a href="https://t.co/NGpzkhIDne">pic.twitter.com/NGpzkhIDne</a></p>— Maj Gen Asif Ghafoor (@OfficialDGISPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialDGISPR/status/839823971914760192">March 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Suspense is fun but I humbly submit to the honorable justices that crores in Pakistan have had enough suspense waiting for the judgement&#55357;&#56842;</p>— Asad Umar (@Asad_Umar) <a href="https://twitter.com/Asad_Umar/status/841215682599628801">March 13, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I have a feeling that military is forcing the judges to not come up with any radical decision.
 
Don't wake them up they are in bed with the corrupt politicians.
PML-N has said that they will accept the SC decision and will not even appeal if its not in their favour.

I think they are 100% certain that the decision is coming in their favour. Maryam Nawaz came back and the protocol she got means PML-N is treating her as future PM
 
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PML-N has said that they will accept the SC decision and will not even appeal if its not in their favour.

I think they are 100% certain that the decision is coming in their favour. Maryam Nawaz came back and the protocol she got means PML-N is treating her as future PM

In that case then may God have mercy on Pakistan.
 
In that case then may God have mercy on Pakistan.

Look at the protocol Maryam Nawaz is receiving; the speaker of National Assembly is acting like she is his leader :facepalm: C6y7OfNWgAA9jNy.jpg
 
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Look at the protocol Maryam Nawaz is receiving; the speaker of National Assembly is acting like she is his leader :facepalm: View attachment 73183

Democracy? My foot

Give me a dictator any day of the week over this royal family. She isn't even member of parliament and still she act like a PM and have access to all the funds
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] bow down to your acting prime minister because you love the royal family of raiwind and i am sure you got no issues with her acting like a PM
 
PML-N has said that they will accept the SC decision and will not even appeal if its not in their favour.

I think they are 100% certain that the decision is coming in their favour. Maryam Nawaz came back and the protocol she got means PML-N is treating her as future PM

I agree.

They are acting very relaxed inaugurating new projects (see roads) etc, no hope for this nation.
 
Speaker shahab rocking an expensive suit while fulfilling his darbari duties.
 
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Haan bhai next Monday ahraha hai result? All the analysts seem to think it'll come "early next week", but I don't believe them anymore. At the start of last week they said "sometime this week", then around mid-week they said "definitely on Friday". Friday came and went and now they are giving new manjan of early next week. All the analysts say that the judgement has been reserved AND written down, then what is the delay in releasing it?

Where in the world does this happen literally? And I'm not even taking any developed nations as the standard here
 
Where in the world does this happen literally? And I'm not even taking any developed nations as the standard here

The only possible explanation is that there is alot of wheeling dealing going on in the background quam ke wasi tar mafaad ke liyay
 
Where in the world does this happen literally? And I'm not even taking any developed nations as the standard here

On a side note, how has been Waseem Akhtar's performance so far as mayor? He keeps crying about lack of powers or jurisdiction. I know it's still early days but do you see any improvement in the city? It was heartbreaking to see what PPP had done to it in just 8 short years.
 
On a side note, how has been Waseem Akhtar's performance so far as mayor? He keeps crying about lack of powers or jurisdiction. I know it's still early days but do you see any improvement in the city? It was heartbreaking to see what PPP had done to it in just 8 short years.
Well to be fair he really does not have much ikhtiriaat as mqm puts it. Not that koi teer marnay the anyways

Recently the Sindh government has handed garbage cleanup to a Chinese company so there seems to be some progress in this regard
 
All the vibes are that the SC true to form has gone with the Sharifs. You could see it from Maryams face that they had won and the fact it has been leaked to them shows that the whole thing is a farce.
 
Aitzaz Ahsan saying that looks like SC decision will be in favour of PML-N
 
Aitzaz Ahsan saying that looks like SC decision will be in favour of PML-N

You could see it from the Noora body language that they have been told. There was a moment that i actually believed that the SC would be honest but deep down i have known that this SC like its predecessors is just as corrupt. If the decision was written last week, why has it not been announced publicly because the Nooras already know the decision.
 
All the vibes are that the SC true to form has gone with the Sharifs. You could see it from Maryams face that they had won and the fact it has been leaked to them shows that the whole thing is a farce.

I think it is our worst fear considering how judiciary has historically favoured Sharifs but if we go by their reaction then there is also panic that can be seen amongst PMLN ranks as well. I think Sharifs have back up plan for sure, Nawaz will be happy with retirement as long as Maryam is safe and can take over.
 
You could see it from the Noora body language that they have been told. There was a moment that i actually believed that the SC would be honest but deep down i have known that this SC like its predecessors is just as corrupt. If the decision was written last week, why has it not been announced publicly because the Nooras already know the decision.

You were bang on.

No hope for this nation, absolutely disgusting. All that in the court was just an act.
 
I would not blame court as much as military. Military is the one which has looted Pakistan the most and military would not want an honest head-strong politician who can held them accountable.
 
All the vibes are that the SC true to form has gone with the Sharifs. You could see it from Maryams face that they had won and the fact it has been leaked to them shows that the whole thing is a farce.

Also explains why Princess Maryam came back to Pakistan after hiding away in the UK for the last month or so.
 
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