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Panamagate Case: Supreme Court disqualifies Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in unanimous verdict

Nawaz Sharif's frustration was pretty clear from his face and the script he was reading after facing JIT for 3 hours was a clear hint that things are going get worse for him in upcoming days. Some pics from inside PM house after coming back from JIT look at the face expressions of all the PMLN leadership.

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If you observe certain section of media and journalists, they are celebrating Nawaz Sharif's courage to appear before JIT as if he is doing any favour? Had he refused to appear, there were severe consequences.

How shamefully Nawaz Sharif labelled this is conspiracy hatched by Imran Khan/Establishment/judges to victimise him and many of the so called liberal journalists on twitter are completely backing this conspiracy theory on the basis of JIT leaking Hussain's picture. People like Marvi Sirmed, Imtiaz Alam, Nusrat Javed ,Ahmed Noorani etc (let's not even start on Geo journalists) are mocking this whole process and convinced this is all a conspiracy against democracy (quite sickening).
 
Something's cooking, for sure. I have an old classmate whose father is a senior PML-N figure, and on our class WhatsApp group, that classmate said, somewhat cryptically, that today was "our April 4."

April 4, 1979 was the day Bhutto was hanged.
 
Nawaz Sharif's frustration was pretty clear from his face and the script he was reading after facing JIT for 3 hours was a clear hint that things are going get worse for him in upcoming days. Some pics from inside PM house after coming back from JIT look at the face expressions of all the PMLN leadership.

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Lol feels as if someone has passed away here.............

You reap what you so....Karma is such a...........
 
Something's cooking, for sure. I have an old classmate whose father is a senior PML-N figure, and on our class WhatsApp group, that classmate said, somewhat cryptically, that today was "our April 4."

April 4, 1979 was the day Bhutto was hanged.

Well that's exactly what the problem is, if anyone closely followed the case (or go through this thread), no one in the world can question the fact that Sharif family is guilty. Not sure how can they compare this to Bhutto's judicial murder? They are obviously playing politics so not a huge surprise but i am more surprised about reaction of these so called anti establishment and pro democracy cheerleaders. How does this process derail the democracy? Raising doubts against Supreme court and other institutions following the due process actually derails democracy.
 
Well that's exactly what the problem is, if anyone closely followed the case (or go through this thread), no one in the world can question the fact that Sharif family is guilty. Not sure how can they compare this to Bhutto's judicial murder? They are obviously playing politics so not a huge surprise but i am more surprised about reaction of these so called anti establishment and pro democracy cheerleaders. How does this process derail the democracy? Raising doubts against Supreme court and other institutions following the due process actually derails democracy.

Delusions of grandeur...
 
ISLAMABAD: The ruling party Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) on Thursday decided to adopt an aggressive strategy against the Joint Investigation Team (JIT) probing the cases related to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and his family members.
Sources privy to the details of the meeting chaired by the prime minister soon after his appearance at the Prime Minister’s House said that the PM looked confident but narrated an ordeal he had to face at the JIT hearing.

A source said that the prime minister told his colleagues that he had to wait for almost half an hour after arriving at the Judicial Complex, despite the fact that the JIT had already been informed about the schedule of the prime minister.
“The prime minister looked a bit concerned after the JIT appearance. He feels as if the JIT, rather than probing the case, looks more inclined to ridicule the elected prime minister of the country,” the source said.

The source said that the JIT was repeating almost same questions raised against the prime minister and his family by Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) leaders and other media outlets.
“The questions asked from the prime minister and his family have been almost identical and have no relation directly about the Panama Leaks case,” the source said.

The source said that the meeting concluded that it seems as if the JIT wanted to damage the ruling family politically; hence, the federal government had decided to deal with the matter politically too.
Asked whether the prime minister had handed over necessary evidence to the JIT, the source said that all related documents had already been shared with the investigation team.

“The ruling family has already shared the relevant record with the JIT. The prime minister also shared some documents. But the legal team of the prime minister believes it’s not about the case; rather the investigation is being designed to deal a major political blow to the government. We would not allow this to happen. From now onwards, you will see a clear change in our strategy,” the source added.
Top PML-N leaders, cabinet ministers, legal aides of the ruling family and some close family members attended the meeting.

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2017/06/15/pml-n-to-alter-its-strategy-on-dealing-with-jit/
 
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Mods should update the thread title to say Nawaz Sharif appeared in front of JIT.
[MENTION=135]Waseem[/MENTION] this thread need regular title updates... (i was using MRR for regular title updates of this thread until verdict was announced but now you are a mod and an active poster of this thread so it's your duty :D )
 
If you observe certain section of media and journalists, they are celebrating Nawaz Sharif's courage to appear before JIT as if he is doing any favour? Had he refused to appear, there were severe consequences.

How shamefully Nawaz Sharif labelled this is conspiracy hatched by Imran Khan/Establishment/judges to victimise him and many of the so called liberal journalists on twitter are completely backing this conspiracy theory on the basis of JIT leaking Hussain's picture. People like Marvi Sirmed, Imtiaz Alam, Nusrat Javed ,Ahmed Noorani etc (let's not even start on Geo journalists) are mocking this whole process and convinced this is all a conspiracy against democracy (quite sickening).

At least 4 media houses are being run by PMLN right now using all the govt funds. Geo, Dunya, Express and Abbtak but on Dunya and Express at least they still have some anchors acting as neutral (Kamran Shahid, Imran Khan, Dr Moeed etc) but on Geo almost every anchor is acting as a PMLN supporter.
 
[MENTION=135]Waseem[/MENTION] this thread need regular title updates... (i was using MRR for regular title updates of this thread until verdict was announced but now you are a mod and an active poster of this thread so it's your duty :D )

I will do so, already have next draft update ready "Nawaz Sharif disqualified by Supreme court" :D
 
At least 4 media houses are being run by PMLN right now using all the govt funds. Geo, Dunya, Express and Abbtak but on Dunya and Express at least they still have some anchors acting as neutral (Kamran Shahid, Imran Khan, Dr Moeed etc) but on Geo almost every anchor is acting as a PMLN supporter.

Geo/Jang role is actually beyond anyone's doubt and they don't even try to hide it anymore that their entire team is out saving Nawaz Sharif (only exception Shahzaib and Hamid Mir to some extent).

I think Dunya still have Haroon Rasheed, Moeed Pirzada, Kamran so there is a bit of balance at least.

Express Tribune in particular has been absolutely pathetic with saucy headlines like "Imran Khan fixed matches" and when you open the article (which many don't), it actually says a PMLN leader accuses IK of match fixing. Also posted strange headlines like Imran failed to provide any money trails etc etc.

Don't really watch AbbTak.
 
Geo/Jang role is actually beyond anyone's doubt and they don't even try to hide it anymore that their entire team is out saving Nawaz Sharif (only exception Shahzaib and Hamid Mir to some extent).

I think Dunya still have Haroon Rasheed, Moeed Pirzada, Kamran so there is a bit of balance at least.

Express Tribune in particular has been absolutely pathetic with saucy headlines like "Imran Khan fixed matches" and when you open the article (which many don't), it actually says a PMLN leader accuses IK of match fixing. Also posted strange headlines like Imran failed to provide any money trails etc etc.

Don't really watch AbbTak.

Its been sad to see the fall in grace of Shahzaib Khanzada

Have been following him since his To The Point days on Express and Channel One and always found him a good journalist asking hard hitting questions and not being biased towards anyone

Even during 2014 dharnas when he had made the switch to Geo, he was among the only one on the network providing largely balanced coverage

but now he's a total PML-N shill.

On the day of hussain nawaz's appearance in front of JIT, he did a show on Imran Khan, PTI and a joke of a case regarding bani gala acquisition
 
Its been sad to see the fall in grace of Shahzaib Khanzada

Have been following him since his To The Point days on Express and Channel One and always found him a good journalist asking hard hitting questions and not being biased towards anyone

Even during 2014 dharnas when he had made the switch to Geo, he was among the only one on the network providing largely balanced coverage

but now he's a total PML-N shill.

On the day of hussain nawaz's appearance in front of JIT, he did a show on Imran Khan, PTI and a joke of a case regarding bani gala acquisition

Absolutely! I thoroughly enjoyed Shahzaib Khanzada and Talat Hussain asking toughest of questions to Imran Khan so tough question or valid criticism is not a problem at all but quite shocking fall from grace for both of them (in particular Talat Hussain) as soon as they joined Geo. Shahzaib these days is still not a total sellout (like Talat) but as soon as he conducts a show on Panama issue and weired tactics of PML leaders, he follows it up with a balancing show against Imran Khan whether it's Bani Gala case or foriegn funding. In his book, being neutral means equal number of shows against all parties regardless of merit.
 
At least 4 media houses are being run by PMLN right now using all the govt funds. Geo, Dunya, Express and Abbtak but on Dunya and Express at least they still have some anchors acting as neutral (Kamran Shahid, Imran Khan, Dr Moeed etc) but on Geo almost every anchor is acting as a PMLN supporter.

You are forgetting Capital TV, Dawn and probably a few smaller ones. On the other side we have 92, 24, ARY, NewsOne, PakNews, Bol and Samaa.
 
You are forgetting Capital TV, Dawn and probably a few smaller ones. On the other side we have 92, 24, ARY, NewsOne, PakNews, Bol and Samaa.

Yea dawn is also becoming garbage every day thanks to their love for govt. Capital TV i don't watch but if i remember correctly they were pro PPP a couple of years ago and always sounded like a jyala channel.
 
Yea dawn is also becoming garbage every day thanks to their love for govt. Capital TV i don't watch but if i remember correctly they were pro PPP a couple of years ago and always sounded like a jyala channel.

Dawn newspaper is okay, but still tilted towards PMLN. Any anti-PTI story will have a nice spicy headline while PMLN, despite now their everyday drubbing will get away.
 
Dawn newspaper is okay, but still tilted towards PMLN. Any anti-PTI story will have a nice spicy headline while PMLN, despite now their everyday drubbing will get away.

I follow Dawn Twitter account and these days they are coming up with all type masala headlines just to get more website views even if that means they will have to compete with Samaa. Tribune and Dawn from last few months are focusing too much on anything anti PTI/IK and adding spice to it.
 
I follow Dawn Twitter account and these days they are coming up with all type masala headlines just to get more website views even if that means they will have to compete with Samaa. Tribune and Dawn from last few months are focusing too much on anything anti PTI/IK and adding spice to it.

I have been an avid reader of 'The Express Tribune' which is probably the best English language newspaper in Pakistan for more than five years. However, they have become extremely anti-PTI. Even if it is a positive news with regards to the PTI, they will tweak the headline in such a way which gives the impression of the opposite.

The other day, I opened ET and the headline read : Imran Khan Involved in Match Fixing. The headline was without any quotations and was being passed off as if IK has been convicted of the offence.

After clicking the title, I found out, that is what a PML-N leader claimed!
 
I have been an avid reader of 'The Express Tribune' which is probably the best English language newspaper in Pakistan for more than five years. However, they have become extremely anti-PTI. Even if it is a positive news with regards to the PTI, they will tweak the headline in such a way which gives the impression of the opposite.

The other day, I opened ET and the headline read : Imran Khan Involved in Match Fixing. The headline was without any quotations and was being passed off as if IK has been convicted of the offence.

After clicking the title, I found out, that is what a PML-N leader claimed!

True as they say "'Make him an offer he can't refuse'"
 
PTI boycotts Geo once again, now jang/Geo employees are crying rivers blaming PTI. Eeven PTI opponents admit GEO/Jang COMPLETLY backs Sharifs and hence very anti PTI so their employees have no right to complain now.
 
I have been an avid reader of 'The Express Tribune' which is probably the best English language newspaper in Pakistan for more than five years. However, they have become extremely anti-PTI. Even if it is a positive news with regards to the PTI, they will tweak the headline in such a way which gives the impression of the opposite.

The other day, I opened ET and the headline read : Imran Khan Involved in Match Fixing. The headline was without any quotations and was being passed off as if IK has been convicted of the offence.

After clicking the title, I found out, that is what a PML-N leader claimed!

Same boat here.. used to be an avid reader of ET. I have stopped visiting them now. Also, on any news article you would have hundreds of filthy troll comments from Indians but if you respond to them even in a respectful, sane manner your comments are moderated and never posted.
 
PTI boycotts Geo once again, now jang/Geo employees are crying rivers blaming PTI. Eeven PTI opponents admit GEO/Jang COMPLETLY backs Sharifs and hence very anti PTI so their employees have no right to complain now.

GEO went overboard when Nawaz Sharif went in front of JIT so a well deserved boycott. A 'kind' message communicated to all other media channels too.
 
PTI boycotts Geo once again, now jang/Geo employees are crying rivers blaming PTI. Eeven PTI opponents admit GEO/Jang COMPLETLY backs Sharifs and hence very anti PTI so their employees have no right to complain now.

Oh wait and they didn't said anything about PMLN boycott of ARY? It's been almost 2 years now! Hypocrites
 
GEO went overboard when Nawaz Sharif went in front of JIT so a well deserved boycott. A 'kind' message communicated to all other media channels too.

I remember Geo headline "Nawaz Sharif jaan per khail ker JIT main pesh hue". Today when Shobaz faced JIT and that day when NS faced it both days roads were blocked but Geo and some channels were saying they didn't showed up with their official protocol!

Geo and Jang journalists are crying over social media now and calling it the part of the game plan
 
I remember Geo headline "Nawaz Sharif jaan per khail ker JIT main pesh hue". Today when Shobaz faced JIT and that day when NS faced it both days roads were blocked but Geo and some channels were saying they didn't showed up with their official protocol!

Geo and Jang journalists are crying over social media now and calling it the part of the game plan

It's great to see their journalists squirm and cry now on Twitter. How is it justifiable in any way to take billions from government in ads and brazenly propagate their agenda in the garb of neutrality?
 
Must watch interview with ex-FIA official who investigated Sharifs' money laundering in 90s.

 
Absolutely! I thoroughly enjoyed Shahzaib Khanzada and Talat Hussain asking toughest of questions to Imran Khan so tough question or valid criticism is not a problem at all but quite shocking fall from grace for both of them (in particular Talat Hussain) as soon as they joined Geo. Shahzaib these days is still not a total sellout (like Talat) but as soon as he conducts a show on Panama issue and weired tactics of PML leaders, he follows it up with a balancing show against Imran Khan whether it's Bani Gala case or foriegn funding. In his book, being neutral means equal number of shows against all parties regardless of merit.

Talat is not a sell out, he started his criticism of PTI/IK several years back, when he was with other channels.

PTI is actually full of sellouts, so its hard for anyone not to criticize PTI.

Good thing is that now with the lotas of ppp-Punjab and pml-q, PTI is set to win next election.
 
Talat is not a sell out, he started his criticism of PTI/IK several years back, when he was with other channels.

PTI is actually full of sellouts, so its hard for anyone not to criticize PTI.

Good thing is that now with the lotas of ppp-Punjab and pml-q, PTI is set to win next election.

There are at least 80-100 MNAs of PMLN lotas came from PPP and PMLQ and Musharraf cabinet in 2013. Danial Aziz, Marvi, Talal, Zaid Hamid, Sheikh Waqas, Malik Ibrar to name a few...
 
Must watch interview with ex-FIA official who investigated Sharifs' money laundering in 90s.


I think he was part of FIA when Rehman Malik was investigating Sharifs? btw PMLN govt already started threatening his family so it's not going to be easy for old man.
 
There are at least 80-100 MNAs of PMLN lotas came from PPP and PMLQ and Musharraf cabinet in 2013. Danial Aziz, Marvi, Talal, Zaid Hamid, Sheikh Waqas, Malik Ibrar to name a few...
True
But then PMLN and PPP are not the parties of change.

And Talat do criticize these parties.
 
Jang/Geo seem to be feeling the heat after the last two hearings.

ISLAMABAD: Not sure what the honourable judges of the Supreme Court precisely observed in the JIT-related cases during the last few days but some in politics are using the judges’ remarks to malign and target the Jang Group in general and the members of The News Investigation Team in particular.

What the politicians or for that matter any other political party say is not a matter of concern for us but if the judges have some doubts about the media and its role, its need to be cleared.

In journalism, we report the facts but don’t manufacture them. A journalist could be challenged and even taken to the court of law if the facts he the media is like shooting the messenger for disliking the message.

Anyone has the right to raise questions on stories and reports produced by any journalist or the media group. But this is too serious an allegation to ignore that what a particular journalist or media house is doing, is part of the government’s campaign. Media is supposed to bring facts before the masses, and they do it without bothering whom these facts will favour and who will get damaged.

It’s a matter of pride for the Jang Group that during the successive governments, all the major scandals — based on facts and not hearsay — were broken by this media house. And since the creation of The News Investigations Cell, all the major stories were produced by the handful of investigative journalists attached with the Cell.

If the case of induction in police service of former Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry’s son — Arsalan Iftikhar — was unearthed by The News, then the same newspaper and the same team of investigative journalists unveiled the conspiracies of dictator Gen (retd) Musharraf against Justice Iftikhar and other judges of the superior judiciary.

However, we do all this while remaining within the parameters of law and Constitution and keeping in view the limits set by the Constitution for freedom of expression. These principles were not forgotten even when The News Investigative team, during the last PPP government, reported the scandal of how the FSC marks of a scion of the then Chief Justice Dogar were illegally increased.

Those political leaders and their followers who are blaming us of being partisan for their political gains, should know that from the PanamaLeaks case against the Nawaz Sharif family to the disclosure of Imran Khan’s offshore companies, the unearthing of Gen (retd) Musharraf’s billions to the corruption scandals of the last PPP regime, all stories belonged to The News Investigation Cell.

The PTI, whose top leaders soon after the announcement of SC’s judgment on the Panama case had rejected the JIT and its constitution, has now become the champion of JIT’s defenders. Some of PTI leaders these days are in the hobby of showing The News’ stories to respected judges of the SC Implementation Bench, as “evidence” against the Jang Group’s so-called campaign to “malign” the apex court and the JIT.

Not sure if the PTI’s anti-Jang Group campaign has influenced the respected judges but these allegations have no ground and are being leveled by a political entity, which is desirous of seeing every journalist dancing to its tunes.

Their attack starts from WhatsApp story of The News. Interestingly, not even a single word of the story has been denied or challenged by anyone yet the impression is being given by certain political elements that the story was meant to hit the JIT and the SC and that this was done at the government’s behest.

Those trying to knit conspiracies relating to the WhatsApp story are ignoring the facts, rather the hard facts. What The News reported were merely the facts and pertained to alleged WhatsApp calls made by the Registrar Supreme Court to get “specific” persons inducted into the JIT.

Most importantly, no less than the SC Implementation Bench itself confirmed the story. While hearing the case, a respected judge included in the Implementation Bench confirmed that the Registrar had acted on the orders of the judges. An honourable judge even admitted that they can make a mistake.

Being the author of the story, I am ready to face any legal challenge if what was reported was incorrect. I should also be proceeded against if there is any hint of disrespect and ridicule for the honourable judges of the apex court. Of course, nothing could be done if the facts as reported by this scribe did not suit any of the parties concerned. The WhatsApp story simply presented the facts as they had happened.

Umar Cheema, the man who is part of the ICIJ and had broken the PanamaLeaks, has been the darling of PTI till recently for his work on the PanamaLeaks but he too became their target after he revealed who controlled the JIT. Cheema, who had appeared before the JIT twice to verify the ICIJ documents against the Sharifs, had revealed that an agency under the Defence Ministry has complete control over the JIT and its secretariat.

Cheema reported the facts fairly and honestly as he observed but his story is also termed as part of the so-called government’s campaign against the JIT. Interestingly, Cheema’s story is based on his observations, which has nothing to do with the government. Still he could be proceeded against if he narrated wrong facts. But targeting him and the Jang Group will be unfair for sharing the facts that are found “unpleasant” to some parties.

The News Investigations Cell also has the credit of filing exclusive stories on how some of the witnesses recently alleged of harassment and mistreatment by the JIT but this too become a “chargesheet” against the messenger — the members of The News Investigations Cell and the Jang Group. Most of these stories are based on documents shared by the witnesses either with the JIT or the apex court.

Our senior correspondent Ahmad Noorani in his recent stories exposed how the JIT instead of focusing on its work had produced a hilarious 110-page document on media monitoring as evidence of obstruction being created in their working. He raised the questions as to why those who had leaked Hussain Nawaz’s picture were not named.

Without showing any disrespect to the judiciary, Noorani also expected from the SC to take notice of the JIT report which admitted to have tapped the PM House calls. In his analytical write-up, he found the government departments’ response to the JIT allegations convincing but it was termed by an honourable judge as a “judgment” handed down by the ICJ.

On Tuesday, a respected judge, while hearing the case, remarked that the government is managing stories in the media in its favour. The judge did not name any journalist or media house but this generalised comment is like reprimanding the whole media without any evidence. Such an allegation could be leveled by a political party but not the honourable judges.

The Jang Group and members of The News Investigations Cell had their important role in the nation’s struggle for the independence of the judiciary. We reiterate our resolve to stand for institution building, independence of the judiciary and constitutional rule without compromising on the freedom of speech as per the parameters set by the law and Constitution.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/21...ation-team-presents-itself-for-accountability
 
Must watch interview with ex-FIA official who investigated Sharifs' money laundering in 90s.


I think he was part of FIA when Rehman Malik was investigating Sharifs? btw PMLN govt already started threatening his family so it's not going to be easy for old man.


Another Mohammad Afzal created. Case being politicised by secret hands. Messy.
 
Jang/Geo seem to be feeling the heat after the last two hearings.

Ansar Abbasi trying hard to present him and his employer as fair party by skipping the FACT that they "reporting of FACTs" is only one sided mostly. First of all they falsly claim the credit of Panama Leak which was leaked by law firm to ICIJ and all Cheema has to do was to check the leaked reports in advance with Sharif Family.

Then all the s**king up they do for sharifs during this JIT investigation and even before, plus not reporting any FACT against sharifs regarding their tactics to pressurize courts and JIT, is a clear bias. With that it is stupid of Ansar to expect that their reporting of FACTs against courts, JIT or PTI should be taken on it's face value.
 
Panamagate: FBR not providing Sharifs’ wealth record, JIT tells SC
ISLAMABAD:
The Joint Investigation Team (JIT), tasked to probe the Sharif family’s assets, has informed the Supreme Court (SC) that the Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) is not providing complete wealth record of the ruling family.

During Thursday’s hearing of the Panamagate case by a three-judge implementation bench of the apex court headed by Justice Ejaz Afzal Khan, JIT head Wajid Zia said the probe body wrote three letters to the revenue board, asking whether the record was not submitted by the Sharifs or if it was stolen from the FBR office, but no reply was received.

Expressing serious concern and indignation, the top court bench observed that it was a clear case of defiance shown by the institution. “Does this mean the record has been stolen?” asked Justice Ijazul Ahsan, observing that the court may summon FBR head if record was not provided.

Another member of the bench, Justice Azmat Saeed Sheikh, observed that the ‘foot-dragging’ would not go in favour of the ruling family.

“No foot dragging. We are at the last scratch of the investigation. Our patience is running out,” Justice Azmat asked the AGP.

The bench went on to ask the JIT head to submit a complete list of documents which are not being provided by the FBR. However, Attorney General for Pakistan (AGP) Ashtar Ausaf Ali assured the bench that the available record would soon be provided to the JIT.

Meanwhile, in response to an inquiry made by the bench members, Zia said the investigative body did not reveal the name of the person who leaked Hussain Nawaz’s picture during interrogation for security reasons.

Upon this, the bench asked the AGP to submit a written response on behalf of the government to ascertain whether it had any reservation on the disclosure of the suspect’s identity. “The AGP has better sense of security concerns and if he does not have an objection on the disclosure of the person’s name then the JIT should have no issue,” Justice Khan remarked.

The bench further directed the JIT to submit its final investigation report on July 10.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/144179...providing-sharifs-wealth-record-jit-tells-sc/
 
Talat is not a sell out, he started his criticism of PTI/IK several years back, when he was with other channels.

PTI is actually full of sellouts, so its hard for anyone not to criticize PTI.

Good thing is that now with the lotas of ppp-Punjab and pml-q, PTI is set to win next election.

Not sure if you are active on social media but plenty of videos available of his contradictions and Najam Sethi even accused him of being a CIA agent. He clearly said many times that Geo is undoubtedly pro government channel and toe their line.
 
Not sure if you are active on social media but plenty of videos available of his contradictions and Najam Sethi even accused him of being a CIA agent. He clearly said many times that Geo is undoubtedly pro government channel and toe their line.


In life People's ideologies change randomly too. It does not mean that they are sell outs unless there is documentary evidence.

There are many who voted PPP or PML N and raised slogans in favour of Bhutto, BIbi or Nawaz sharif for 25 years but now they support and vote Imran Khan.

Many previous Jamaat e Ismami, JUI F or ANP supporterama voters sympathasiers had change of heart/ideology and are now with IK doesn't mean they are sell outs.

Look at Hussain Haqqani's transformation. Once He was lover supporter of Jameeat and today he absolutely takes them to cleaners.


Even before joining Geo/Jung group Tallat Hussain's monthly income was in Millions. He was living in a Posh house and waa living life of a Posh elite middle aged man. He already was quite rich due to him being part of print and electronic media in last 10 years. Than He was cozy was COAS kayani aswell but now his tilt isn't towards establishment but is towards sharif family and pml n.


So change of views or his love affair with sharifs or pml n or his hate for IK or PTI does not mean that He is a sell out unless there are documentary evidences of him getting bribe/commision from PML N or Sharif's.


On twitter PTI lovers, voters, supporters abuse Tallat and hurl corruption allegations at him and call him sell out journalist. Yes, without any proof. Which is all against Islam and against morality, ethics, principles.
 
Panamagate: FBR not providing Sharifs’ wealth record, JIT tells SC


https://tribune.com.pk/story/144179...providing-sharifs-wealth-record-jit-tells-sc/


If Gov tempers all documents and files than I wonder how the JIT and SC will know this ? Since all record isn't computerised so FBR, NAB etc can burn all previous files and documents and create new documents from back dates. How will JIT and SC establish this ?


NAB & FBR are controlled by Civil Government of PML N, i.e. federal government of Pakistan. I presume this unless deep state plays dirty games as usual.


This case is was complex and not a simple one. Circumstances tell this. Unfortunately.


Hope, wish and pray that Justice Prevails.
 
If Gov tempers all documents and files than I wonder how the JIT and SC will know this ? Since all record isn't computerised so FBR, NAB etc can burn all previous files and documents and create new documents from back dates. How will JIT and SC establish this ?


NAB & FBR are controlled by Civil Government of PML N, i.e. federal government of Pakistan. I presume this unless deep state plays dirty games as usual.


This case is was complex and not a simple one. Circumstances tell this. Unfortunately.


Hope, wish and pray that Justice Prevails.

The record is already available elsewhere. They simply cross check it with the new record institutions submit and that's how they get caught.
 
Diatribe against judiciary: Nehal Hashmi to be indicted on July 10

ISLAMABAD: The Supreme Court (SC) has decided to indict Senator Nehal Hashmi on July 10 for delivering a hate speech against judges of the apex court and members of the joint investigation team (JIT) probing the Sharif family’s assets.

A video featuring Hashmi addressing a public gathering had gone viral on social media last month in which he hurled threats and insults to “warn those investigating PM’s sons”, in an obvious reference to the JIT and judiciary.

A three-judge implementation bench of the top court, headed by Justice Ejaz Afzal Khan, expressed its dissatisfaction on Friday over the former Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) leader’s reply to a show-cause notice issued by the top court over his diatribe against judiciary.

During the hearing, the apex court bench also expressed indignation over Hashmi’s non-appearance before the court. When his counsel Hashmat Habib told the court that he had left to perform Umrah, the bench asked why the lawmaker did not move an application seeking exemption from hearing. The bench went on to point out that Hashmi’s attitude with the court was not appropriate.

In his reply submitted through his counsel, the senator who was recently ousted from the ruling party, did not show any regret over his ‘threatening’ speech.

In his capacity as PML-N president, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif had ordered termination of Hashmi’s basic party membership after an internal inquiry committee found him guilty of violating party discipline and acting in defiance of the party line.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1442786/diatribe-judiciary-nehal-hashmi-indicted-july-10/
 
In life People's ideologies change randomly too. It does not mean that they are sell outs unless there is documentary evidence.

There are many who voted PPP or PML N and raised slogans in favour of Bhutto, BIbi or Nawaz sharif for 25 years but now they support and vote Imran Khan.

Many previous Jamaat e Ismami, JUI F or ANP supporterama voters sympathasiers had change of heart/ideology and are now with IK doesn't mean they are sell outs.

Look at Hussain Haqqani's transformation. Once He was lover supporter of Jameeat and today he absolutely takes them to cleaners.


Even before joining Geo/Jung group Tallat Hussain's monthly income was in Millions. He was living in a Posh house and waa living life of a Posh elite middle aged man. He already was quite rich due to him being part of print and electronic media in last 10 years. Than He was cozy was COAS kayani aswell but now his tilt isn't towards establishment but is towards sharif family and pml n.


So change of views or his love affair with sharifs or pml n or his hate for IK or PTI does not mean that He is a sell out unless there are documentary evidences of him getting bribe/commision from PML N or Sharif's.


On twitter PTI lovers, voters, supporters abuse Tallat and hurl corruption allegations at him and call him sell out journalist. Yes, without any proof. Which is all against Islam and against morality, ethics, principles.

Your views may change but basic ideology does NOT. I said it before as well, i used to love his interviews with IK because he made him think (very tough questions) just like Shahzaib Khanzada. He did the same against other people as well so he was considered balanced journalist.

Let's assume he had a change of heart and starting opposing IK (no issues) but what happened to all the criticism against Sharifs? What happened to criticism of Geo being government affiliated channel, views about Sethi etc? You can't say his views about everyone changed overnight especially after joining Geo??

Sellout doesn't mean he literally takes lifafas (like many others) but could mean compromising on your views and ideoogy based on employer's requirement. I don't go around calling everyone lifafas just because they criticise IK or others but there are certain things you simply can't ignore.
 
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The record is already available elsewhere. They simply cross check it with the new record institutions submit and that's how they get caught.


This is a claim of Opposition, Ary, Sama, Pak News, Bol. SC said that Sharif's could not present evidence of transactions to prove everything occured legally wrt money transfers.


Judgement will let us know about allegations substantiated or not.
 
Your views may change but basic ideology does NOT. I said it before as well, i used to love his interviews with IK because he made him think (very tough questions) just like Shahzaib Khanzada. He did the same against other people as well so he was considered balanced journalist.

Let's assume he had a change of heart and starting opposing IK (no issues) but what happened to all the criticism against Sharifs? What happened to criticism of Geo being government affiliated channel, views about Sethi etc? You can't say his views about everyone changed overnight especially after joining Geo??

Sellout doesn't mean he literally takes lifafas (like many others) but could mean compromising on your views and ideoogy based on employer's requirement. I don't go around calling everyone lifafas just because they criticise IK or others but there are certain things you simply can't ignore.


Long debate.


Liberals become conservative, conservatives become liberal, pro-democrat become pro-establishment, pro-establishment become anti establishment etc etc.


So ? Ideologies change.
 
Long debate.


Liberals become conservative, conservatives become liberal, pro-democrat become pro-establishment, pro-establishment become anti establishment etc etc.


So ? Ideologies change.

The elite get richer, the middle class and poorer people get bought through hand outs, bribes or top jobs whether on merit or sometimes without merit; family members suddenly become wealthier and suddenly they all have a change in ideology.

Suddenly the party that is known for corruption is the best thing that has ever happened for the country and corrupt government bodies are no longer corrupt and anything they say is true.

What was once fake is now real. But all is forgiven if you do it in the name of god and even better when you spend thousand of tax payers money to visit Mecca, but that's ok because to be a true muslin you have to vist Mecca at least 2000 times in your lifetime and make sure a photographer is present take wonderful pictures which can be shared on social media across Pakistan. You are destined for heaven if you take tax payers money and go to Mecca when those that pay the tax can hardly afford to go even once in their lifetime.

You are right, idealogies do change.
 
The elite get richer, the middle class and poorer people get bought through hand outs, bribes or top jobs whether on merit or sometimes without merit; family members suddenly become wealthier and suddenly they all have a change in ideology.

Suddenly the party that is known for corruption is the best thing that has ever happened for the country and corrupt government bodies are no longer corrupt and anything they say is true.

What was once fake is now real. But all is forgiven if you do it in the name of god and even better when you spend thousand of tax payers money to visit Mecca, but that's ok because to be a true muslin you have to vist Mecca at least 2000 times in your lifetime and make sure a photographer is present take wonderful pictures which can be shared on social media across Pakistan. You are destined for heaven if you take tax payers money and go to Mecca when those that pay the tax can hardly afford to go even once in their lifetime.

You are right, idealogies do change.


Immy my other posts ?
 
Immy my other posts ?

Well I am always dubious of people who have a sudden change of thought.
I'm not saying whether they have sold themselves to the highest bidder but it makes you think. The worst thing for me is when balanced reporters take a different stance or approach when they change jobs and toe the owner's (or Government's) line.

I am not able to expand on this topic in relation to Pakistan as I no longer live there and I don't follow Pakistany media, probably not as much as I should do.

The best journalists are the ones that remain neutral and give both sides of the story. Everyone else is not a proper journalist
 
Well I am always dubious of people who have a sudden change of thought.
I'm not saying whether they have sold themselves to the highest bidder but it makes you think. The worst thing for me is when balanced reporters take a different stance or approach when they change jobs and toe the owner's (or Government's) line.

I am not able to expand on this topic in relation to Pakistan as I no longer live there and I don't follow Pakistany media, probably not as much as I should do.

The best journalists are the ones that remain neutral and give both sides of the story. Everyone else is not a proper journalist


Immy if half the media is stooge of Deep State than should the Civil government try to but the remaining media to counter propaganda ?


If such events take place than is there a chance of neutral journos going in lap of either gov or deep state ?


A revolutionary Journo got kidnapped few years ago. A commision was formed and it was established that He was torchered to death by state machinery. No action until now.


Besides 2-3 talk shows(journos should ensure there well being) all the media is party. One is civil gov side and other is deep state.
 
Immy if half the media is stooge of Deep State than should the Civil government try to but the remaining media to counter propaganda ?


If such events take place than is there a chance of neutral journos going in lap of either gov or deep state ?


A revolutionary Journo got kidnapped few years ago. A commision was formed and it was established that He was torchered to death by state machinery. No action until now.


Besides 2-3 talk shows(journos should ensure there well being) all the media is party. One is civil gov side and other is deep state.

It's a sad state of affairs.

You will never have the perfect situation but I think the best solution would be a complete overall of the system, an effort to weed out corruption starting form the very top.
 
Captain Safdar has a plot worth 2 lakh in Islamabad. :broad

Aik plot sannu wi dila de. :))
 
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It looks like JIT will give its report in favour of Nawaz Sharif & family and SC bench will give verdict in favour of Nawaz Sharif & family.
 
OK now we are talking :D

I don't know why is she called though? Inki London tou kya Pakistan main bhi koi property nahi thi :))

They will cry about victimization in the media again, get ready for GEO to bleed for women's rights in the coming days.
 
They will cry about victimization in the media again, get ready for GEO to bleed for women's rights in the coming days.

Exactly!!

Actually Rauf Klasra had very interesting information on this, he exaggerates things a lot at times but he was saying that PTI is REALLY hoping that Maryam is not summoned otherwise she will get huge sympathy and will strengthen her in coming elections (weired but true). This is probably because people feel sorry when a woman (MARYAM BETI) is dragged to courts.
 
Exactly!!

Actually Rauf Klasra had very interesting information on this, he exaggerates things a lot at times but he was saying that PTI is REALLY hoping that Maryam is not summoned otherwise she will get huge sympathy and will strengthen her in coming elections (weired but true). This is probably because people feel sorry when a woman (MARYAM BETI) is dragged to courts.

There may be some leaders in PTI who don't want Maryam to appear in front of JIT but I doubt IK or other big leaders have this sort of narrow thinking.

Why hasn't the JIT summoned Ishaq Dar yet is the biggest question given the fact that we're so close to the deadline. His confessional statement is the biggest piece of the puzzle in the money trail.
 
Baji summoned by JIT. Now watch how the Nooras cry about zulm against quam ki beti, while they themselves put a 20 year old Benazir behind bars in men's jail.
 
Baji summoned by JIT. Now watch how the Nooras cry about zulm against quam ki beti, while they themselves put a 20 year old Benazir behind bars in men's jail.

I have a feeling JIT is now just putting on a show but will give decision in Sharifs favor

They'll say we investigated then so throughly and called everyone up but didn't find anything.

Being deemed innocent will make sharif even stronger than he is
 
I have a feeling JIT is now just putting on a show but will give decision in Sharifs favor

They'll say we investigated then so throughly and called everyone up but didn't find anything.

Being deemed innocent will make sharif even stronger than he is

Yaar that is what I'm afraid about, some anchorpersons have also expressed this concern that JIT is just a smokescreen of accountability and in the end the Sharifs will be declared innocent. Oskay baad tou Pakistan ka Allah hi hafiz hai, because they will win 2/3 majority in the next election if that happens.
 
"Maryam Pakri Gayee" trending in Pakistan :))


Well atleast we had some hope before the final verdict, it will be all doom and gloom once it ends.
 
What if we get a Pakistan in Champions Trophy style twist, Sharifs are convicted and get jailed with all their illegal assets seized :23:
 
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Well said "tumharay baap ka paisa hai ke bhool jaingaye"
 
Well said "tumharay baap ka paisa hai ke bhool jaingaye"

This statement of IK was a reply to Kh Asif jisne parliament main NS ki mojoodgi main khush aamad kerte hue kaha tha ke "Mian sahab yeh Panama wala qisa be log kuch din main bhul jayenge fiqer na keren... "
 
Case resolved. JIT dissolved with immediate effect

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