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So, apparently the PCB are set to rename the Gaddafi Stadium and I think I’m ready to join the list of people who want RR out.

I’m absolutely furious, how can you just erase history and think it’s acceptable? Gaddafi was a good man and made a villain by the west and now we’re disrespecting his legacy by removing his name from our stadium. It’ll always remain Gaddafi Stadium, don’t expect us to ever be ok with the stadium be renamed to cool&cool cricket ground.

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Gaddafi Stadium to be renamed

Pakistan Cricket Board‘s chairman Ramiz Raja has announced that Gaddafi Stadium in Lahore will be renamed for sponsorship reasons.

The reason behind the name change is purely commercial and carries no political undertones. The stadium has been called by its current name for 50 years after it was named in honor of former Libyan president Muammar Gaddafi.

Ramiz Raja has announced that the cricket board is in advanced negotiations with a number of sponsors one of whom will win the right to rename the stadium as per their choice. The National Stadium in Karachi as well as other major cricket stadiums across the country will also potentially be renamed once sponsors are lined up.

“We acquired the services of YouGov to estimate the brand worth of our stadia, and how much sponsorship deals would be worth,” Ramiz said. “That’s not just true of the Gaddafi Stadium, but also the NSK and others. We’ve been working towards this for a while, and the response from sponsors has been satisfactory. Once we finalize a deal [for Lahore], the name Gaddafi will go completely, with a sponsor’s name replacing it.”

The stadium was named Lahore Stadium upon its inception in 1959 but was renamed in 1974 after the former Libyan president gave a speech in Lahore during the OIC conference.

https://pakobserver.net/gaddafi-stadium-to-be-renamed/
 
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YousafTheBeast said:
So, apparently the PCB are set to rename the Gaddafi Stadium and I think I’m ready to join the list of people who want RR out.

I’m absolutely furious, how can you just erase history and think it’s acceptable? Gaddafi was a good man and made a villain by the west and now we’re disrespecting his legacy by removing his name from our stadium. It’ll always remain Gaddafi Stadium, don’t expect us to ever be ok with the stadium be renamed to cool&cool cricket ground.
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The name is a relic of Pakistan's political climate back in the 1970s. Gaddafi has nothing to do with cricket, and current day viewers don't think about him when a game is being played at Lahore.
 
Raja Aziz Bhatti Stadium.
He was a Lahori. Should be named after one of our heroes.
 
I appreciate that Gaddafi spoke in favour of our nuclear weapons programme in the 70s but in this day and age, a stadium named after a reviled dictator is rather embarrassing especially when we have so many national heroes whose name can be honoured.

Selling naming rights is not a bad idea too to provide another source of revenue.
 
It should be renamed.

From a purely political perspective yes it made sense to name it after Gadaffi at the time because of his support for the nuclear but he subsequently sold out AQ Khan and Pakistan to the Americans.

Gadhafi isn't even respected in Libya anymore so it makes no sense for him to be honoured in Pakistan.
 
Hopefully ppp can come into power and make sure this doesnt happen.

Gaddafi name should stay or atleast use it with the sponsor
 
YousafTheBeast said:
So, apparently the PCB are set to rename the Gaddafi Stadium and I think I’m ready to join the list of people who want RR out.

I’m absolutely furious, how can you just erase history and think it’s acceptable? Gaddafi was a good man and made a villain by the west and now we’re disrespecting his legacy by removing his name from our stadium. It’ll always remain Gaddafi Stadium, don’t expect us to ever be ok with the stadium be renamed to cool&cool cricket ground.
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Exactly, its ridiculous
 
Major said:
Exactly, its ridiculous
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What has Gaddafi done that far exceeds the achievements of Pakistani nationals or is this more of a infatuation with a foreigner due to the usual inferior complex? And is it worth worshiping such a controversial individual over possible commercial benefits, what do Pakistanis stand to gain from maintaining the Gaddafi name lol
 
No issues in renaming the ground if it can bring in substantial money. Happens all over the world.

It's just that PCB needs to ensure the word stadium is removed. Make it exciting like arena, oval, garden, park.

Have a feeling Arif Habib might have a say in this. He wouldn't simply sponsor drop in pitches worth crores without getting something in return.
 
[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] I know you want him to maintain the Gaddafi heritage but what about naming the ground after Misbah ul Haq ? you on board yet mate
 
Varun said:
The name is a relic of Pakistan's political climate back in the 1970s. Gaddafi has nothing to do with cricket, and current day viewers don't think about him when a game is being played at Lahore.
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Isn’t their a stadium named after Modi?
 
shaz619 said:
What has Gaddafi done that far exceeds the achievements of Pakistani nationals or is this more of a infatuation with a foreigner due to the usual inferior complex? And is it worth worshiping such a controversial individual over possible commercial benefits, what do Pakistanis stand to gain from maintaining the Gaddafi name lol
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Why do we need to gain something from this?

What does Pakistan gain from naming their stadium Tapal Tea Cricket Ground apart from a couple of rupees?
 
moghul said:
Politics apart , this should be named Imran Khan stadium.
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10-15 years down the line or 10 years earlier, it would have been okay. But associating Ik's name with it during the current period in IK's regime would look narcissistic like majority of stuff IK has been doing in past few years.
 
What an insult to the poor man!!!! Gaddafi gave all the money, supported Pakistan and now his name will be removed to please someone. Really really nimokharmi work.
 
shaz619 said:
What has Gaddafi done that far exceeds the achievements of Pakistani nationals or is this more of a infatuation with a foreigner due to the usual inferior complex? And is it worth worshiping such a controversial individual over possible commercial benefits, what do Pakistanis stand to gain from maintaining the Gaddafi name lol
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Gaddafi gave money to bulid stadium plus he helped Pakistan financially. Just because Westerns were against him for petrol it doesn't make him criminal.
 
Edhi Stadium sounds pretty good and it would also raise awareness about Edhi Organization among the tourists which in turn could lead to more donations for the organization.

People saying it should be renamed after a cricketer probably don't know other sports have been held in Gaddafi Stadium as well.

Antonio Inoki who is regarded as the pioneer of mixed martial arts fought a local Pakistani wrestler Jhara Pehelwan (a local legend Pakistanis know nothing about) in late 70s and was actually defeated by our hero. That was the time when Inoki's name was at an all time high following his cross format superfight with Muhammad Ali. That match was instrumental in creation of UFC. Pro wrestling fans would know about Inoki as he founded the NJPW and IGF and is regarded as one of the biggest names in wrestling history.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
10-15 years down the line or 10 years earlier, it would have been okay. But associating Ik's name with it during the current period in IK's regime would look narcissistic like majority of stuff IK has been doing in past few years.
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IK was born and raised in Lahore

One of the greatest cricketer ever played the game .

Won WC for Pakistan and won all over the world

Built a great cancer hospital in Lahore , the best in Pakistan and has been running for free for most of the people.

PM of Pakistan

What else you need to name a stadium after his name in his home town.
 
silentkiller187 said:
Gaddafi Stadium to be renamed

Pakistan Cricket Board‘s chairman Ramiz Raja has announced that Gaddafi Stadium in Lahore will be renamed for sponsorship reasons.

The reason behind the name change is purely commercial and carries no political undertones. The stadium has been called by its current name for 50 years after it was named in honor of former Libyan president Muammar Gaddafi.

Ramiz Raja has announced that the cricket board is in advanced negotiations with a number of sponsors one of whom will win the right to rename the stadium as per their choice. The National Stadium in Karachi as well as other major cricket stadiums across the country will also potentially be renamed once sponsors are lined up.

“We acquired the services of YouGov to estimate the brand worth of our stadia, and how much sponsorship deals would be worth,” Ramiz said. “That’s not just true of the Gaddafi Stadium, but also the NSK and others. We’ve been working towards this for a while, and the response from sponsors has been satisfactory. Once we finalize a deal [for Lahore], the name Gaddafi will go completely, with a sponsor’s name replacing it.”

The stadium was named Lahore Stadium upon its inception in 1959 but was renamed in 1974 after the former Libyan president gave a speech in Lahore during the OIC conference.

https://pakobserver.net/gaddafi-stadium-to-be-renamed/
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How would they evaluate properly?

Right now Stadium rights wont be worth that much lets say. But in 10 or 20 years? How much would it be worth then? How long will the contract be? 5 years? 10 years? Would PCB be changing stadium names every 5-10 years if another sponsor offers more money?
 
Modi has a stadium after his name in his home state , why not IK. IK was a better cricket than Modi, in my personal opinion, patwaris might disagree .
 
Great decision. It should have been renamed a long time ago. It’s embarrassing that we named a stadium after an evil dictator.
 
shaz619 said:
What has Gaddafi done that far exceeds the achievements of Pakistani nationals or is this more of a infatuation with a foreigner due to the usual inferior complex? And is it worth worshiping such a controversial individual over possible commercial benefits, what do Pakistanis stand to gain from maintaining the Gaddafi name lol
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Nothing to do with infatuation with foreigners. Our infatuation is with the whiteman.

Pakistan under bhutto maintain good relations with Libya under gaddafi whihc is why this stadium was named.

If you want tl change names, sure, lets start with Faisal Masjid than...

Pakistan gains nothing by naming its domestic trophy as quaid e azam aswell. Names are attributed in remembrance.

As for your other post, there are 10 other stadiums in pakistan that are not named, why is it that Gaddafi stadium has to be renamed? As i said in the op you want to change names change the names of other stadium.

As for Misbah, he is more likely to be honoured after death. Hopefully spme trophy is named after him
 
YousafTheBeast said:
So, apparently the PCB are set to rename the Gaddafi Stadium and I think I’m ready to join the list of people who want RR out.

I’m absolutely furious, how can you just erase history and think it’s acceptable? Gaddafi was a good man and made a villain by the west and now we’re disrespecting his legacy by removing his name from our stadium. It’ll always remain Gaddafi Stadium, don’t expect us to ever be ok with the stadium be renamed to cool&cool cricket ground.
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??? He sold us out when he made friends with the West by telling them our clandestine activities. And put our country in major jeopardy with possible sanctions.
 
Finally good decision to change it’s name.
Gaddafi stadium is not a very lucky stadium for us, lost 1987 world cup semi final here and sri lankan team fiasco in 2009.
Gaddafi was not a Pakistani and had nothing to do with Cricket. Stadium should have been renamed before 1996 World cup final but at that PPP govt did not allow it.
 
Qadhafi betrayed Pakistan by revealing to the US and West that Pakistan had been helping Libya with its nuclear program, there is no reason to keep the stadium named after him.
 
moghul said:
IK was born and raised in Lahore

One of the greatest cricketer ever played the game .

Won WC for Pakistan and won all over the world

Built a great cancer hospital in Lahore , the best in Pakistan and has been running for free for most of the people.

PM of Pakistan

What else you need to name a stadium after his name in his home town.
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If given the choice, even Bradman wouldn't name a stadium after himself.

The stadium is owned by the government, not IK. IK is the PM, not the king of Pakistan. Regardless of his stature, doing this would look incredibly stupid as RR can't singlehandedly rename the stadium by himself. He would need clearance from the higher ups and the higher ups are IK's people. So it would either be a stooge move(by any minister etc) or a case of extreme grandiosity for IK.

That's why I said it, if someone else were in power, it would look okay. IK can make his own privately run stadium and name it after himself like he did with SKMH(after his mother) but not for the state's property.
 
Gaddafi was a dictator who ruled over his subject with an iron fist. He had NOTHING. ZERO to do with cricket. We just put his name on the stadium because he paid $.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
If given the choice, even Bradman wouldn't name a stadium after himself.

The stadium is owned by the government, not IK. IK is the PM, not the king of Pakistan. Regardless of his stature, doing this would look incredibly stupid as RR can't singlehandedly rename the stadium by himself. He would need clearance from the higher ups and the higher ups are IK's people. So it would either be a stooge move(by any minister etc) or a case of extreme grandiosity for IK.

That's why I said it, if someone else were in power, it would look okay. IK can make his own privately run stadium and name it after himself like he did with SKMH(after his mother) but not for the state's property.
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If a sponsor has agreed to pay the PCB a handsome amount every year for Stadium ownership rights then the Sponsor has every right to put his name on the Stadium. That is how it works in England and else where.
 
The Kampein Taang stadium in honour of Bilawal Bhutto Zardari.
 
I think cricket stadiums should be named after cricket personalities.

How about Wasim Akram stadium?
 
Why not just a Sponsers name followed by Lahore Cricket Stadium like For example Samsung Lahore cricket Stadium. Its ridiculous that we have a cricket Stadium named after Foreigner that nothing to do with our cricket.
 
Major said:
Nothing to do with infatuation with foreigners. Our infatuation is with the whiteman.

Pakistan under bhutto maintain good relations with Libya under gaddafi whihc is why this stadium was named.

If you want tl change names, sure, lets start with Faisal Masjid than...

Pakistan gains nothing by naming its domestic trophy as quaid e azam aswell. Names are attributed in remembrance.

As for your other post, there are 10 other stadiums in pakistan that are not named, why is it that Gaddafi stadium has to be renamed? As i said in the op you want to change names change the names of other stadium.

As for Misbah, he is more likely to be honoured after death. Hopefully spme trophy is named after him
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The Mohali stadium should be named after Misbah. :misbah3
 
Bewal Express said:
Why not just a Sponsers name followed by Lahore Cricket Stadium like For example Samsung Lahore cricket Stadium. Its ridiculous that we have a cricket Stadium named after Foreigner that nothing to do with our cricket.
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how is that pathetic? There are alot of sports trophies that have got nothing to do with cricket.
 
Well it's an avenue to make some money for the PCB.

I'm pretty sure plenty of sponsors will be up for the idea.

I just hope we don't come up with some random bubblegum named as the lead sponsor of the GSL.
 
the perimeters in which the stadium exists, the empty spaces have been given out on rent to restaurants. In Pindi stadium and I guess in Gadaffi stadium, the area is used as a food street on non cricketing days.

So money making isn't an issue as PCB is getting the money during offeseason.

Any company that will foolishly decide to buy a ground title sponsor, they won't be getting anything in return. The PCB holds authority on which vendor can open shop in the perimeter of the stadium. Plus, those shops stay closed thus watching a match in the stadium isnt that exciting.

If the stadiums had restaurants and in built museums or merchandise shops,, that adds to the value of the stadium and companies are ready to make good money for such a place as it becomes more memorable.

Osaka battery Stadium would sponsor the title of the stadium, but in return they will get nothing.

A cricketing culture needs to be developed through stadiums. In USA you have foods modified according to the sports like hotdogs, popcorns and drinks.
 
LMAO. Ofcourse you are a fan of a long-dead megalomaniacal dictator from Libya who has literally nothing to do with Pakistan, and whose demise came after he was hunted down and killed by his own people.

His name is a blot on the rich history of this stadium. I don't even care if they name it Bona Papa Stadium. As long as they remove his name.
 
There is nothing wronf in renaming the stadium if the amount is fruitful for the cricket board. it happens everywhere the staples centre an iconic arena was recently renamed
 
Saj said:
Well it's an avenue to make some money for the PCB.

I'm pretty sure plenty of sponsors will be up for the idea.

I just hope we don't come up with some random bubblegum named as the lead sponsor of the GSL.
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Exactly, imagine the stadium being called "habba babba" stadium
 
The Karachi stadium should be renamed Starc Karachi Stadium after what Mitchell Starc did to our batting in our first innings.
 
A large number of stadium in USA are named after sponsors , nothing wrong with this approach here too. Pleas FGS remove the name of a brutal dictator from the stadium . No one wants to hear his name in his own country and we have named the most famous stadium after him, ridiculous, ZAB was a crazy man.
 
If we get a proper big sponsor, the stadium should be named after them like the Emirates Stadium. No need to mention Lahore etc, in the name.

If we don't have a sizeable sponsor, then we should give a generic name to the stadium. Something like "Markhors Den", "Eagles Nest", "The Crown Jewel" etc., or whatever Urdu equivalent that there is. It'll still be Qazzafi stadium in lingua franca for some time but it is what it is.
 
The political situation now is very different to what it was in the 1970s and there is absolutely no reason to continue calling it Gaddafi Stadium. Name should have been changed a long time ago, in all honesty.
 
Babeikh said:
The political situation now is very different to what it was in the 1970s and there is absolutely no reason to continue calling it Gaddafi Stadium. Name should have been changed a long time ago, in all honesty.
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To me it's bizarre that hasn't been done years ago
 
Bewal Express said:
So your equating naming a PK trophy after the father of the nation with some dictator from Libya. Thanks for that.
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Like i said it is not necessary that a sports trophy or stadium be named after that particular sports.

Half of the stadiums in pakistan are named after jinnah
 
Major said:
Like i said it is not necessary that a sports trophy or stadium be named after that particular sports.

Half of the stadiums in pakistan are named after jinnah
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If all were named after him, he deserves the accolade. Why we have anything named after a Libyan dictator that not only betrayed us but has nothing to do with cricket is beyond any logical reason
 
This is how it should be as it's all over North America and Europe in different sporting arenas. Good efforts by RR!
 
Bewal Express said:
If all were named after him, he deserves the accolade. Why we have anything named after a Libyan dictator that not only betrayed us but has nothing to do with cricket is beyond any logical reason
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You really have a hard time understanding that everywhere in the world you dont need to name things with someone from the same industry.
 
Major said:
You really have a hard time understanding that everywhere in the world you dont need to name things with someone from the same industry.
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You haven't addressed any of the objections to it being named Gaddafi stadium. Your argument above is a non argument - might as well call it the Bill Gates stadium then. Bill Gates has done more for Pakistan than Gaddafi.
 
Tariq Jameel or Tableghi Jamaat Stadium is another shout given the recent tendencies and prioritises you find in Pakistan cricket.
 
Its fine to rename the stadium after sponsors, if and only if, its a large amount of money. This is a historic stadium and the money needs to be substantial.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
I’m absolutely furious, how can you just erase history and think it’s acceptable? Gaddafi was a good man and made a villain by the west and now we’re disrespecting his legacy by removing his name from our stadium. It’ll always remain Gaddafi Stadium, don’t expect us to ever be ok with the stadium be renamed to cool&cool cricket ground.
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Money. Is their an amount that you would say is enough to get rid of this name? I would agree that it should not be renamed because some people dislike Gaddafi.
 
Major said:
If you want tl change names, sure, lets start with Faisal Masjid than...
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Shah Faisal paid for the entire mosque according to some sources. Other sources say he did not pay all of it, but a substantial amount. It is fair the mosque is named after him. On other hand Faisalabad that was a wrong done by Bhutto but too late too change.
 
gazza619 said:
Nawaaz sharif stadium would be nice
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this is what will happen if named Imran Khan

Every 5 -10 years the name will be changed..

Just like in India they named Feroz Shah Kotla as Arun Jaitley Stadium...
And the old stadium renovated with 100k capacity changed from Motera to Modi Stadium
 
I hope the idea is only for renaming the stadium and also using the sponsors share for its renovation etc but not selling the stadium to them, then later would be very hard to get it back...
 
I don't care whatever names they give. Real issue is all of our stadiums are really out dated & lack even basic facilities. If we don't upgrade our stadiums then I am afraid no one would be attending matches in couple of years.
There has been a lot of talk on the topic from wasim khan & now by ramiz raja, but absolutely nothing has been done by PCB & I don't see them doing anything in near future apart from just talks.
 
In England sponsors names are used as names of grounds eg Arsenal’s ground is called Emirates Stadium,Manchester City Ettihad Stadium.The sponsors pay very good annual fee to the clubs.Ramiz is thinking on the same lines.The is not a bad idea to raise revenue
 
Good move. PCB needs cash and stadiums desperately need to be updated.

Ramiz has done some really nice things in the pipeline for Pak cricket. Well done!
 
You what?

Major said:
Hopefully ppp can come into power and make sure this doesnt happen.

Gaddafi name should stay or atleast use it with the sponsor
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Are you insane PPP who wrecked the country with their corruption. Finally Pakistan is coming out of this mess and you want to send it back 50 years. Unbelievable.

Also Gadaffi is dead and naming rights brings revenue and creates jobs. So its a no brainer. Except for uneducated emotional fools who are completely clueless. PPP - stupidest comment i’be read on the internet.
 
I find it interesting that whenever a chairman thinks about renaming gaddafi stadium, that chairman eventually gets removed.....

I call it the gaddafi curse.
 
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