PCB should save this team from further humiliation and stop asking BCCI for a bilateral series

[Mian]

This pathetic Pak ODI team is no match for current indian ODI team so PCB should stop asking BCCI for a bilateral series and save us from further humiliation. No fighting spirit on intent they are an insult to the game of cricket.

 

[Savak]

Nah, the players need to play more often to get used to the stress of Indo Pak games. Our players are suffering and just facing India once every year or once every 2 years is not going to address the problem.

 

[Mian]

Nah, the players need to play more often to get used to the stress of Indo Pak games. Our players are suffering and just facing India once every year or once every 2 years is not going to address the problem.

Same can be said about India because India is also playing us once every year or 2 years and still very successful against us. IPL experience and crowd pressure can't be used as a factor here after 2 editions of PSL.

 

[Savak]

Same can be said about India because India is also playing us once every year or 2 years and still very successful against us. IPL experience and crowd pressure can't be used as a factor here after 2 editions of PSL.

IPL is 10 years old, the bulk of the India side has close to 10 years of IPL exposure. PSL is still in the infancy.

 

[Bhaijaan]

In bilateral India Pakistan have been equal in last decade or so. It's the global tourneys where India has a clear stronghold over Pakistan.

 

[Slog]

In bilateral India Pakistan have been equal in last decade or so. It's the global tourneys where India has a clear stronghold over Pakistan.

India is on a different level now

 

[Savak]

In bilateral India Pakistan have been equal in last decade or so. It's the global tourneys where India has a clear stronghold over Pakistan.

With todays defeat, India has beaten Pakistan in the last 6 out 7 games and the 1 game Pakistan won i.e. the 2014 Asia Cup was due to one wicket where Afridi got lucky.

 

[pakistan cricket fan]

Agree i will say maybe after 10 years when we will have new players.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Pakistan needs to get rid of old uncle toms and introduce new guns

Malik, Hafeez, Azhar, Wahab, needs to be replaced with youngsters like Umar Akmal

 

[Logical]

In bilateral India Pakistan have been equal in last decade or so. It's the global tourneys where India has a clear stronghold over Pakistan.

Just stop man, seriously please. Clearly India is completely in another league compared to our clowns.

 

[PakLFC]

Exactly what I was thinking. It is good that due to the political unrest there will be no Indo-Pak series for the foreseeable future. This saves us from being humiliated by losing test matches to them in two days. Until we are able to compete with India lets stick to playing in the UAE or lesser teams like Ireland or Zimbabwe on our travels. My great fear is that it may already be to late to save Pak cricket like it is our hockey and squash.

 

[GullyCricketFlop]

I agree.

 

[786warrior]

I wholeheartedly agree - there is no contest as we saw the abject capitulation that masquerades as a team!

We often see the title choker applied to teams who lose it in the final moments of a game - there has to be a name for these Pak losers who lose the game within a few balls being bowled???

There is no way in hell a batting line up comprising the likes of selfie boy shezad (formerly bag carrier to afridi), Professor of nothingology hafeez, jigsaw Malik (bits and pieces player), and bowler like wa wa riaz spray gun!

Simply NO WAY!!!

 

[786warrior]

Nah, the players need to play more often to get used to the stress of Indo Pak games. Our players are suffering and just facing India once every year or once every 2 years is not going to address the problem.

So right???? because the Indians don't need sleep and food like us mere mortals - they are the bogeyman for Pak children??!!!

 

[TeymurBlake]

Our team doesn't know how to play in 2017. They keep thinking its 1997, they get wrecked under pressure, they don't have any confidence in themselves and worse of all they doesn't seem to be any improvements in sight. The can play the modern style of the game but somehow don't. Pakistan needs to play more often and needs learn the understanding of the sport in 2017. 240 is not gonna win you the game in 2017, nor will playing spinners on pace friendly pitches. God knows when we will get our act together.

 

[ExplicitAI]

I'm telling you right now India is the best team in the world with world class fast bowlers in the shape of Bumrah, Yadav and Shami as well as having the best fielding unit in the world and batting unit. I'll back them to make it to the CT final and are good contenders to win the title. Current Indian player who is on the road to becoming world class players is Pandya, can easily average 40+ with the bat and bag 3 wickets a game alongside excellent fielding.

 

[HinderTheJinder]

Tbh if India had not stopped bilateral ties with Pakistan,They would have battered the head to head record

 

[hadi123]

No we have every right to want to play them. In the long term it will help us

 

[Sin Nombre]

The Indian team does not care much about bilaterals and that has been evident for a long time. The only things that matter in international cricket are test match series and ICC tournaments.

 

[Mamoon]

Nah, the players need to play more often to get used to the stress of Indo Pak games. Our players are suffering and just facing India once every year or once every 2 years is not going to address the problem.

This ''stress'' and ''pressure'' angle is over blown. Since we play India once a year and lose, people assume that it is because of stage freight and how we cannot cope with the occasion. The reality though is different. India is simply a much better side, and we can only beat them occasionally. Playing them regularly will not help as long as the gulf in class is huge, just like playing England and Australia regularly does not make it any easy for us to beat them. They still win every series and so will India.

 

[coy0607]

lets not be naive here.. PCB doesn't care if Pakistan win or lose or are humiliated against India - they care about the revenue that'll be generated

they want to play India because regardless of the result, a series against India will bring in massive profits. That is literally the only motivation here

 

[Cuts_and_cuts_hard]

This ''stress'' and ''pressure'' angle is over blown. Since we play India once a year and lose, people assume that it is because of stage freight and how we cannot cope with the occasion. The reality though is different. India is simply a much better side, and we can only beat them occasionally. Playing them regularly will not help as long as the gulf in class is huge, just like playing England and Australia regularly does not make it any easy for us to beat them. They still win every series and so will India.

Totally agree. This thing about "stress" makes it seem like this team would actually beat India if they had less pressure put on them. Fact is, that is just an excuse. The talent and basic cricket ability in India's lineup is miles ahead of anything in Pakistan's.

Rohit, Dhawan, Kohli, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Jadhav... their whole top 5 of specialist batsmen would walk into our team and be hailed the saviour of the nation. There is no substitute for genuine ability. We don't have it to the extent India's batsmen do. Simple. End of story.

 

[Savak]

This ''stress'' and ''pressure'' angle is over blown. Since we play India once a year and lose, people assume that it is because of stage freight and how we cannot cope with the occasion. The reality though is different. India is simply a much better side, and we can only beat them occasionally. Playing them regularly will not help as long as the gulf in class is huge, just like playing England and Australia regularly does not make it any easy for us to beat them. They still win every series and so will India.

The stress plays a role just like it did in the past. Skill gap is another topic

 

[Cuts_and_cuts_hard]

The stress plays a role just like it did in the past. Skill gap is another topic

Is stress on Pak players more than Indian players? I find it very hard to believe given the fanatic level of support Indian team has. They are under huge pressure also.

Pak lose constantly now. There should be no pressure. Losses against Ind are expected. If anything I would say Ind are under more stress due to expectations.

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

Asking for bilaterals is very much OK ,problem is begging. PCB should ask anyone for bilaterals. Why not?!

 

[LegendInzi]

There is no stress, pressure etc involved in present-day Indo Pak matches. These factors only come into play when teams are equally matched and whoever handles pressure well pulls the balance to their side.

In this case, its a case of difference in skill/talent/abilities whatever you want to call it. What you saw today was the best they had to offer. There are no significant selection issues, no batting order blunders etc. Those are finer details. The problem is much more deeper than that. Its just the difference in talent.

I completely agree with Rashid Latif today in post-match analysis. He said even if complete 15-men Pakistan squad was playing against India, they would have still lost.

 

[Savak]

Anyways Pakistan will get nothing out playing the likes of Sri Lanka, West Indies and minnows. They need to consistently play against the best no matter how much pain or defeats it will result in, you learn from playing against the best. That experience is invaluable.

 

[Savak]

There is no stress, pressure etc involved in present-day Indo Pak matches. These factors only come into play when teams are equally matched and whoever handles pressure well pulls the balance to their side.

In this case, its a case of difference in skill/talent/abilities whatever you want to call it. What you saw today was the best they had to offer. There are no significant selection issues, no batting order blunders etc. Those are finer details. The problem is much more deeper than that. Its just the difference in talent.

I completely agree with Rashid Latif today in post-match analysis. He said even if complete 15-men Pakistan squad was playing against India, they would have still lost.

That fear of failure plays a role in the dot ball percentages, the dropped catches at crucial times.

 

[Itachi]

Our team doesn't know how to play in 2017. They keep thinking its 1997, they get wrecked under pressure, they don't have any confidence in themselves and worse of all they doesn't seem to be any improvements in sight. The can play the modern style of the game but somehow don't. Pakistan needs to play more often and needs learn the understanding of the sport in 2017. 240 is not gonna win you the game in 2017, nor will playing spinners on pace friendly pitches. God knows when we will get our act together.

This. And to add, I see lack of professionalism in pak cricket. Fitness isn't important. When a veteran player says this, you know you have a problem in the system.

 

[LegendInzi]

That fear of failure plays a role in the dot ball percentages, the dropped catches at crucial times.

Ball catching is a skill. So is strike rotation. My point is they don't have it.

Those catches would have been dropped in other matches as well. And our dot-ball percentage is a high in all matches. If it goes slightly higher against India, that's more likely down to their amazing bowling. Indian bowling after 2010 is very well-known for drying up the runs. Infact 'Dhoniconda' term wasn't made out of Pak-Ind encounters....

 

[Savak]

Ball catching is a skill. So is strike rotation. My point is they don't have it.

Those catches would have been dropped in other matches as well. And our dot-ball percentage is a high in all matches. If it goes slightly higher against India, that's more likely down to their amazing bowling. Indian bowling after 2010 is very well-known for drying up the runs. Infact 'Dhoniconda' term wasn't made out of Pak-Ind encounters....

Pakistani bowlers can neither pick up wickets nor dry up the runs either. Pathetic stuff really.

 

[LegendInzi]

Pakistani bowlers can neither pick up wickets nor dry up the runs either. Pathetic stuff really.

Pathetic indeed. All three wickets today were 'unforced errors' on the part of India. None that the bowler had set up or executed.

 

[MMHS]

True. The gap is beyond covering in one generation.

If PAK is outclassed by IND in bowling, there is absolutely no chance to even compete. Bowling is the only natural skill in cricket that one can unleash couple of wicket takers from a flawed system - batting, fielding & captaincy are skills that's more methodical, process oriented - if bowling lacks behind, there is absolutely no chance in other departments, because most of IND's major Ranji sides have better system & intellectual resources than PCB. This is one main reason that Afghans have produced Rashid & Nabi, but it'll take them much longer to produce a world class batsman.

 

[Bhaijaan]

With todays defeat, India has beaten Pakistan in the last 6 out 7 games and the 1 game Pakistan won i.e. the 2014 Asia Cup was due to one wicket where Afridi got lucky.

I think most of them were tournament matches.India did lose 1-2 to Pakistan at home. Pakistani need to replicate their bilateral record in tournaments as well. Why do you think they behave so differently in tournaments.