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PCB takes IMG Reliance to court in London [Update Post #168]

Varun said:
Hope your ancestors also told you that our companies will do anything for money - from gullible sources or not. So when things go South, Reliance has a lot less to lose than the PCB who have to activate supposed contingency plans in under 24 hours.



Hello Sohail Tanvir, welcome to the forum!
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This issue is now too boring. I wish I dont hear anything related to Pakistan - India for next 10 years.

India has a problem in Kashmir whats it got to do with PSL or Pakistan even? but anyway whatever its we just shouldnt interfere in each other business. Going forward Pakistan shouldnt give any contracts to Indian companies and also stay totally silent to any Indian allegations etc.

Just play them in ICC event quietly and move on.
 
Pakhs said:
This issue is now too boring. I wish I dont hear anything related to Pakistan - India for next 10 years.

India has a problem in Kashmir whats it got to do with PSL or Pakistan even? but anyway whatever its we just shouldnt interfere in each other business.
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Tell me about it. The only good thing about Kashmir are the Himalayas. Everything else is a colossal waste of time for both India and Pakistan.
 
India always try to shift the focus towards Pakistan. The real problem is Kashmir not Pakistan. We kashmiris don't want to be part of India. Thats it. If you call yourself biggest democracy of world then you should listen to the voice of Kashmiris. Indian people are tye dumbest creature on earth. They have failed to understand real problem.
 
They should change their name, as you definitely cannot "rely" on them.
 
Varun said:
Tell me about it. The only good thing about Kashmir are the Himalayas. Everything else is a colossal waste of time for both India and Pakistan.
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Maliq_Mudasir said:
India always try to shift the focus towards Pakistan. The real problem is Kashmir not Pakistan. We kashmiris don't want to be part of India. Thats it. If you call yourself biggest democracy of world then you should listen to the voice of Kashmiris. Indian people are tye dumbest creature on earth. They have failed to understand real problem.
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Its sad that this issue is brought into cricket by Indian government. Some people are just cricket fans and not wanting anything to do with politics.

I understand Kashmir issue is complex and here to stay for a long time yet.
 
Not sure who PCB can rope in as replacements and how the logistics and personnel changes can be handled in such a short period of time.
 
MenInG said:
PCB's response:

PCB statement on production of HBL PSL 2019

Dubai, 17 February 2019:

“We have been informed by IMG Reliance that they will be unable to partner with us for the remaining HBL PSL 2019 and PCB has reserved all its rights. The PCB always had a contingency plan in place, and we are confident we will be in a position to announce the new partner on Monday after the completion of the formalities,” PCB’s Managing Director Wasim Khan said.
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In other words, PCB may sue for breach of contract. I am sure no contract has a termination clause which reads:

"In the event of an attack by the Kashmiri mujahideens on the illegal occupying forces of India, Reliance reserves the right to cancel this agreement with immediate effect."
 
Vegitto1 said:
In other words, PCB may sue for breach of contract. I am sure no contract has a termination clause which reads:

"In the event of an attack by the Kashmiri mujahideens on the illegal occupying forces of India, Reliance reserves the right to cancel this agreement with immediate effect."
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Lookup the term "Force Majeure", and relevant historical examples of the same.
 
Awkward moment when their own name becomes a misnomer.
 
PSL broadcast

With IMG pulling out of the PSL. Does this mean that no more PSL matches are going to be shown on TV? If so, does that mean that PSL will be cut short?
 
Baigel said:
With IMG pulling out of the PSL. Does this mean that no more PSL matches are going to be shown on TV? If so, does that mean that PSL will be cut short?
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In theory, yes.
But according to the pcb they have a backup production team which they will try to announce today.
So it should be fine by wednesday and psl matches will be broadcasted
 
a_tahir said:
In theory, yes.
But according to the pcb they have a backup production team which they will try to announce today.
So it should be fine by wednesday and psl matches will be broadcasted
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Worst case they can show the matches minus any production/graphics. It will be like a throwback to those 1980s Sharjah games - which were supposedly the 'golden era' of cricket!
 
a_tahir said:
Can't believe the indian media is spreading lies just to satisfy its audience.
They just "reported" a bomb blast in quetta that killed pak soldiers. People (indians) are actually believing it.
Pakistanis situated in quetta have not been informed of any such attack possibly due to the reason THERE WAS NO ATTACK.
it is not being reported by any pak news channel either
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I am in quetta and and there is no such incident, what can you expect from these indian media ********
 
Varun said:
Worst case they can show the matches minus any production/graphics. It will be like a throwback to those 1980s Sharjah games - which were supposedly the 'golden era' of cricket!
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Unfortunately your wishes wont come true. The broadcasting will go ahead as it was previously. Incredible how Indians can hate and want Pakistan to go down.
 
RehanG said:
Unfortunately your wishes wont come true. The broadcasting will go ahead as it was previously. Incredible how Indians can hate and want Pakistan to go down.
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'My wish' is that T20 cricket is banned full stop. Carry on though.
 
Varun said:
Worst case they can show the matches minus any production/graphics.
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I think the client, PCB in this case, would always own the right to works like graphics, etc produced by the production company. The backup production company should be able to take-over & run existing work. We should expect much of the on-screen experience including commentary to remain the same.

I not sure about the equipments though. The new production company will most likely have to bring their own cameras, technicians & other personnel.
 
Am seeing on Twitter that Blitz will take over production from here.
 
Problem PCB has now is that whoever they will hire will want a heck of a lot more than the going rate, because they know PCB and PSL are in trouble.
 
Saj said:
Problem PCB has now is that whoever they will hire will want a heck of a lot more than the going rate, because they know PCB and PSL are in trouble.
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I wish PCB learned a lot from these things, which is pretty unlikely TBH. They always put themself in trouble because of fool decisions.
 
Saj said:
Problem PCB has now is that whoever they will hire will want a heck of a lot more than the going rate, because they know PCB and PSL are in trouble.
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I hope that the companies in good faith and in hope of getting the next PSL production contract put their bid sensibly.
 
Ummii said:
I wish PCB learned a lot from these things, which is pretty unlikely TBH. They always put themself in trouble because of fool decisions.
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You cannot always blame the PCB for things that are not in their hands. This institution has suffered a lot because of unprofessionalism in the past, but the current situation is really unfortunate. I do not think anyone could foresee the Kashmir bombing
 
Saj said:
Problem PCB has now is that whoever they will hire will want a heck of a lot more than the going rate, because they know PCB and PSL are in trouble.
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Which is why IMG Reliance should compensate the PCB for the costs. There is no way they can be allowed to get away with leaving PCB in the lurch at the last minute like this.
 
Saj said:
Problem PCB has now is that whoever they will hire will want a heck of a lot more than the going rate, because they know PCB and PSL are in trouble.
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PCB should in future never hire an Indian company. Before DSTv block Supersport was seen in Pakistan back in early 2000s.

PCB and Pakistan Govt. should enter talks with Supersport like channel and import much needed technology and skilled manpower.
 
PCB really deserved this slap. Nothing more to add.
 
I regret to know this. It is a disgrace and against business ethics what Reliance has done to PCB.

I hope you find a good replacement soon enough without fans missing out on any action.
 
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It should not be a big problem to find a new production company.

Whatever graphics produced it owned by PCB, so the new company should be able to use some of the existing ones and continue with them.

After a few games when they have had time to settle things will get better.
 
Rana said:
You cannot always blame the PCB for things that are not in their hands. This institution has suffered a lot because of unprofessionalism in the past, but the current situation is really unfortunate. I do not think anyone could foresee the Kashmir bombing
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Whenever they are doing contract with an Indian company there is a risk. In 2008, indian trying to build similar atmosphere like now, their companies terminated dealings with Pakistani partners. UTV suspended film releases and decided against launching a channel in Pakistani market.

This drama has been happening for awhile now and repeating itself again and again, 2008, 2009, 2016, 2018, its continues. Something happens and the indian s pit the squeeze or pressure on their own companies and make them withdraw deals. Ehsan Mani has proven he is dumb enough not to pre-calculate the problems that come with it.

PCB deserves the blame to bring upon themselves. This should be full and final lesson for them and other Pakistani corporates not to partner Indian entities.
 
this isnt PCBs fault btw.

Organizations will always take the best offer availible, reliance must have been the best offer.
Now what happened in the end is Reliance fault, not PCBs.

This is a matter that could be taken to court.
 
And we had Indian posters who would sing praises of Indian businessmen and companies like they’re the best thing since sliced bread. I’m pretty certain this is due to direct government orders. Goes to show how far India has come as a nation when there’s still a clear government gag on businesses, media, and everything owned and operated by an Indian. What’s next? Will Tata order it’s subsidiaries like Jaguar Land Rover to stop selling cars to Pakistanis? LOL.
 
Really disgraceful attitude by IMG. I don't know how can you sleep well after taking these kind of decisions.
 
If IMG had not done this I can imagine they would have lost a lot of contracts in India and perhaps been out of business in future.

It's a decision they probably had to take and not definitely one they wanted to take.
 
Saj said:
If IMG had not done this I can imagine they would have lost a lot of contracts in India and perhaps been out of business in future.

It's a decision they probably had to take and not definitely one they wanted to take.
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O think our first and foremost priority should be Pakistan. They won't suffer as much as Pakistan viewers and PCB will due to this move. IF PCB is unable to get a broadcaster its a really bad situation. And indians will be rejoicing and gloating about this.
 
Saj said:
If IMG had not done this I can imagine they would have lost a lot of contracts in India and perhaps been out of business in future.

It's a decision they probably had to take and not definitely one they wanted to take.
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I understand what you are saying but signing a contract is like giving your word to someone. So letdown someone like this is a disgrace.
 
Saj said:
If IMG had not done this I can imagine they would have lost a lot of contracts in India and perhaps been out of business in future.

It's a decision they probably had to take and not definitely one they wanted to take.
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I think we should be less sympathetic to the Indians and be more sympathetic to the inconvenience caused to our own National Board and our own National Product i.e. PSL.
 
Saj said:
If IMG had not done this I can imagine they would have lost a lot of contracts in India and perhaps been out of business in future.

It's a decision they probably had to take and not definitely one they wanted to take.
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I honestly doubt many in India knew about the company involved in broadcasting PSL. It’s always a bad move to not honour international commitments. IMG has ruled themselves out of a lucrative market by taking an emotional decision.
 
Mobashir said:
I understand what you are saying but signing a contract is like giving your word to someone. So letdown someone like this is a disgrace.
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Indians never keep their words. We've seen that time and time again. PCB needs to learn from this and never do business with Indian companies again
 
GBK_Fan said:
I honestly doubt many in India knew about the company involved in broadcasting PSL. It’s always a bad move to not honour international commitments. IMG has ruled themselves out of a lucrative market by taking an emotional decision.
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On the other hand this move could actually benefit them.
 
Savak said:
I think we should be less sympathetic to the Indians and be more sympathetic to the inconvenience caused to our own National Board and our own National Product i.e. PSL.
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Sympathy doesn't come into it.

It's about reality.
 
Saj said:
On the other hand this move could actually benefit them.
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How? The rights for IPL have already been allocated and no tournament organiser will take up IMG only based on them tripping PCB. I honestly don’t see much benefits here.
 
Saj said:
Sympathy doesn't come into it.

It's about reality.
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IMG Reliance is not that weak an entity. ITs partly owned by the one of the most powerful man in India called Mukesh Ambani. If he wanted he would've continued. Ambanis own and control most of the media in India. Some say thy own PM Modi. They use media to manage their image.

IF IMG Reliance continued they were at the best position to resist.

The reality is if Pakistanis care more for those who have dumped them than for their own people suffering than the others will also treat us like toilet paper.
 
What these stupid arrogant Indians don't realize is that there will come a time when Pakistan's economy will be on the up swing, that Pakistan's Cricket will be on the up swing, where India Pakistan relations will be normalized and perhaps Kashmir issue might even be resolved. There is no way after this episode will the PCB give business to any Indian entity that easily ever again.
 
GBK_Fan said:
How? The rights for IPL have already been allocated and no tournament organiser will take up IMG only based on them tripping PCB. I honestly don’t see much benefits here.
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Not today, not tomorrow but I'm sure it will in future.
 
IMG Reliance is not that weak an entity. ITs partly owned by the one of the most powerful man in India called Mukesh Ambani. If he wanted he would've continued.
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I doubt it

The consequences may have been too much even for him.
 
As I have said before, it's time the $2bn imports are cut to the bear minimum. As the Indians are doing it for symbolism, we should do the same.
 
So PCB had committed to announce the contigency plan today. Today has come and gone. Any announcements yet?
 
Any news?
According to some news outlets, they've already signed the deal. But why haven't they announced it yet if they have?
 
Guys keep internal Indian politics out of this
 
Any news on who is the new broadcaster (if any). PCB must announce it today as the next phase of matches begin tomorrow in Sharjah and a lot of logistical hurdles will come in any last minute announcement.
 
This has all the ingredients of a photo finish thriller. Riveting stuff. Hours before the next match begins.
 
Savak said:
What these stupid arrogant Indians don't realize is that there will come a time when Pakistan's economy will be on the up swing, that Pakistan's Cricket will be on the up swing, where India Pakistan relations will be normalized and perhaps Kashmir issue might even be resolved. There is no way after this episode will the PCB give business to any Indian entity that easily ever again.
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The BCCI is always king of short term thinking.

The problem is that the PCB are kings of even shorter term thinking.
 
Still no announcement? Maybe PCB has made arrangements already but have decided to stay quiet so as to not give this issue anymore hype than it deserves?
 
Snowflake said:
Still no announcement? Maybe PCB has made arrangements already but have decided to stay quiet so as to not give this issue anymore hype than it deserves?
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If such is the case, the PCB have outdone themselves.
 
Snowflake said:
Still no announcement? Maybe PCB has made arrangements already but have decided to stay quiet so as to not give this issue anymore hype than it deserves?
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Why would a professional organization tell that they will announce a replacement and then stay calm unless they don't have an option ready.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Bcci is the guy who plays the long game.
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If that was the case, they wouldn't be prioritizing IPL over all else. Textbook technique of killing the goose (test cricket) that lays the golden egg (quality players).
 
Varun said:
If that was the case, they wouldn't be prioritizing IPL over all else. Textbook technique of killing the goose (test cricket) that lays the golden egg (quality players).
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BCCI has never done anything against the interests of our Test team. It’s just that the IPL is the golden goose that makes them the most money. You can’t blame them from business standpoint.
 
Ed_ said:
Why would a professional organization tell that they will announce a replacement and then stay calm unless they don't have an option ready.
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They had to confirm that they've got things under control. Announcing at particular time is not a big deal. But then again, this is just conjecture on my part.
 
Varun said:
If that was the case, they wouldn't be prioritizing IPL over all else. Textbook technique of killing the goose (test cricket) that lays the golden egg (quality players).
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Because IPL gives 500mn usd a year that is used in cricket.
 
Still no news on whose going to produce with time running out as the next match is tomorrow. Hope there isn't a blackout of tv coverage.
 
Another great deal from saviour Sethi! It is common sense that an Indian company will only cause issues in the long run.
 
cricket4all said:
Still no news on whose going to produce with time running out as the next match is tomorrow. Hope there isn't a blackout of tv coverage.
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According to some jurnos on Twitter they've signed a deal with a local company. Announcement expected later today.
 
Psl's latest tweet shows they've found a new broadcasting company.
It's all good lads.
 
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