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Pick a team that can beat India in ICC World Cup 2023

Iamcoolwhiz said:
Usual? We have done it in the past. An example of Usual would be Pakistan usually looks at hand outs from other teams to qualify.

That is usual.
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Since winning 2011 WC, India have had habit of chocking in knockout games in ICC tourneys That's a fact.

Truth hurts that's why you came with a lame response in return.
 
Ngl afg might make it ahead of NZ.

They can beat sa if sa chases. Their bowling is gun and noon ahmed is their find of the tournament.
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
If they make it will be a 8 or 9 wicket loss or 200 run loss. Will make semis a joke.
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And if Pakistan make it, and face India in semi's same story 😭😭. Brother I'm saying this with the purest of intentions.

Current afg are superior to us, by miles. Now that fakhar is Fit, we're relying on fakhar miracles with Abdullah support to get us through. Besides gurbaz, their batting is weak but their bowling is 100x > ours.

Truth is now that with nz injured, one semi's is bound to be a joke as nz can't compete logically with their players injured, and Pakistan ain't competing either, neither is afg against india
 
mominsaigol said:
And if Pakistan make it, and face India in semi's same story 😭😭. Brother I'm saying this with the purest of intentions.

Current afg are superior to us, by miles. Now that fakhar is Fit, we're relying on fakhar miracles with Abdullah support to get us through. Besides gurbaz, their batting is weak but their bowling is 100x > ours.

Truth is now that with nz injured, one semi's is bound to be a joke as nz can't compete logically with their players injured, and Pakistan ain't competing either, neither is afg against india
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Pakistan if they make it will compete.

Don't worry about that.
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
Pakistan if they make it will compete.

Don't worry about that.
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If you say so.

BTW, our NZ bet doesn't count anymore.

How could I predict that 5 of their players would get injured 💀💀💀💀. Their minnow level now 😭😭
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
Don't be a chicken :)
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Brother I'm not being a chicken. The bet was obviously when their whole squad was present.

Now they have to bowl 30 overs with part timers 💀.

No one on the planet could have predicted 5 injuries 😭
 
Mamoon said:
Kohli is a better batsman than anyone in Pakistan’s history.

Rohit is a better Limited Overs batsman than anyone in Pakistan’s history.
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Yeah, probably. What’s your point? Pakistan had nothing to do with my post. Mentioning Pakistan won’t magically shield Indian cricket from criticism.
 
If Fakhar Zaman can play the way he has played today against New Zealand then Pakistan certainly has a great chance of beating India. With team Pakistan, anything is possible.
 
hassan918 said:
If Fakhar Zaman can play the way he has played today against New Zealand then Pakistan certainly has a great chance of beating India. With team Pakistan, anything is possible.
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He did play in the Asia cup while chasing 356.
 
hassan918 said:
If Fakhar Zaman can play the way he has played today against New Zealand then Pakistan certainly has a great chance of beating India. With team Pakistan, anything is possible.
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Yes, Fakhar has played well. Credit to him for utilizing the opportunity and performing when team needed him.

But knocks against Ban and a depleted NZ attack ravaged with injuries are not the same thing as performing against Aus/Ind/SA attacks. Anyways, there's still Eng next and lots of other If and buts in between to go right for pak to qualify. So there's still some way to go.
 
It is the mos comprehensive steamrolling ever. India has decimated all before them and they cannot be stopped.

Has there been a better team?
 
Easy for India. At this rate they will one ICC trophy a decade because they'll host them.

Good team + home advantage is always a good recipe.
 
SpiritOf1903 said:
This just seems so complete and every game has been a battering. Hard to think there can have been a better team 1-11
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Bro check out Australia's 2007 WC campaign. They dominated 2003 as well but had a few hiccups. In 2007 it was brutal.
 
SpiritOf1903 said:
It is the mos comprehensive steamrolling ever. India has decimated all before them and they cannot be stopped.

Has there been a better team?
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2007 AUS was dominant. They wrecked everyone on their way to the trophy.

India still had a close game against NZ in this tournament.
 
None of this will matter if India doesn't win the cup, let us wait and watch.
 
I don’t know how the West Indies 1970s World Cup winning teams were but post that only Australia 2007 team is better than this Indian team
 
Ahmad-GERMANFC said:
I don’t know how the West Indies 1970s World Cup winning teams were but post that only Australia 2007 team is better than this Indian team
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2003 and 2007 Australia team were unbeaten in both competitions and ON FOREIGN CONDITIONS. For me the best ever white ball teams in world cup competitions in 50 overs
 
Sorry nothing can be etched just yet.

There is still a lot of cricket to play and lots of things that can happen.

India have dominated group stages before and then chickened out when the real pressure is on.

It aint over till the fat lady sings or in this case until the tiny chaiwala passes the trophy to the victors.
 
Nah, India can have one bad day in semis or in finals.
 
Great side but let's not forget they're playing at home and familiarity with conditions does matter a lot.
Peak Australia was something else
 
I'd like to see them chase big in unfavorable conditions. They have been amazing and by far the best team. Bowling has been so good that they are yet to chase a 300+ score. Wonder if that will happen this tournament.
 
zarak said:
I'd like to see them chase big in unfavorable conditions. They have been amazing and by far the best team. Bowling has been so good that they are yet to chase a 300+ score. Wonder if that will happen this tournament.
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In unfavorable conditions, how other teams are going to score 300+ against this Indian bowling line up?

I think on some pitches, top order has to play blinder and set the large total of 320 for India to get. India can lose quick 2-3 wickets then they are not getting those runs.
 
Buffet said:
In unfavorable conditions, how other teams are going to score 300+ against this Indian bowling line up?

I think on some pitches, top order has to play blinder and set the large total of 320 for India to get. India can lose quick 2-3 wickets then they are not getting those runs.
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Like if South Africa batted first today and India batted second. That's the only way they can be beaten. Last two games they have gotten the ball to seam like crazy under lights. Someone needs to take them on batting first. They are the best team in this tournament by far.
 
I wonder how India would do at Bangalore Vs South Africa. A ground like that would take the skill out of their bowling and make it a slug fest. On these turning tracks they are just miles ahead
 
NZ with a weakened team may not pose many difficulties but if Pakistan reaches the semis it may give a tough fight.
 
zarak said:
I wonder how India would do at Bangalore Vs South Africa. A ground like that would take the skill out of their bowling and make it a slug fest. On these turning tracks they are just miles ahead
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Yes, small ground with high scores will suite SA batting more where bowler's skills are less of a factor.
 
Pakistan in group stages 1999 was similar, and then by super six we saw lot of chinks or whatever external nonsense.

Unless India goes through entirely right now we are in the same boat as Pak in 1999 group stages.
 
I think, it will take some special individual performance like we saw last night from Maxwell and the other day from Fakhar Zaman to beat India. They're playing almost perfect cricket at the moment and will surely be hard to beat.
 
A World XI like this might give it a shot specially if they bat first at Wankhede

Hayden
Jayasuriya vc
Kallis
Lara
De Villiers
Stokes
Wasim c
Warne
Steyn
McGrath
Murali

Sub: Jayawardena, Ambrose, Watson, Gayle

Reserve: Akhtar, Flintoff, Gilchrist

That's a super duper team, 5 specialist bowlers and Wasim and Warne no mug with bat, add to it Kallis and Jayasuriya are viable bowling options yet not required. Look at the squad throw in Gayle at no. 9 or no. 11 and this team is not weakened
 
The truth is only India can defeat India at the moment, and this is what happened in the last few World Cups.
India needs time to get their strap on, longer breaks within tournaments affect their performance and knockout stage pressure affects them a lot.

Simple: The opposing team wins the toss and bats first, don't look for a large score assuming you are playing India and India can chase these scores down. Rather, play it safe and to your strengths and not India's. Focus on getting to a slightly above-par score. India does not have a Maxwell but has a Surya. If it's his day India will win and the opposition just has to move on. If Surya doesn't fire, India will not chase it down under immense pressure.
 
kach said:
The truth is only India can defeat India at the moment, and this is what happened in the last few World Cups.
India needs time to get their strap on, longer breaks within tournaments affect their performance and knockout stage pressure affects them a lot.

Simple: The opposing team wins the toss and bats first, don't look for a large score assuming you are playing India and India can chase these scores down. Rather, play it safe and to your strengths and not India's. Focus on getting to a slightly above-par score. India does not have a Maxwell but has a Surya. If it's his day India will win and the opposition just has to move on. If Surya doesn't fire, India will not chase it down under immense pressure.
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Sky has no track record in ODIs.

I'd have selected Ishan or one of the younger players
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
Sky has no track record in ODIs.

I'd have selected Ishan or one of the younger players
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Sky doesn't have a track record, but if there is one player who can do 50% of what Maxwell did in the Indian squad it is SKY, not an FTB like Ishaan. Before Maxwell played the way he did, he had never played a knock like that chasing a competitive target, but we all knew he had the potential to do that. Likewise, with SKY, he will fail 50 times followed by 1 unbelievable knock when the stars align. Ishaan Kishan is not a 360 player and does not have that potential.
 
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