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the laws of the game are run by icc.Did anyone notice how indian fans are not talking about oh how this is an acc event, why they went to icc.
Lol
What crass statement did he make?..from when condemning terrorists and dedicating victory to the victims of terror attack from his own country a crass statement?..Are you supporting those terrorists?..Sky making a crass comment about a terrorist attack
First let’s agree this. Do you want to debate like a rational person or do yo want to simply mouth off about what you believe regardless of context? Once I get your reply ill tell you.What crass statement did he make?..from when condemning terrorists and dedicating victory to the victims of terror attack from his own country a crass statement?..Are you supporting those terrorists?..
First let me tell you I'm not here for the debate..and not discuss political things which country is right or wrong .First let’s agree this. Do you want to debate like a rational person or do yo want to simply mouth off about what you believe regardless of context? Once I get your reply ill tell you.
Ok. Saying we stand with Indian forces and the victims of pehelgam. I think there is no place for this on a cricket field in front of a packed stadium in front of the country with whom they are at war effectively. Yes he can think and feel whatever he wants away from that arena. But in that arena it is a politically charged statement and that’s exactly why sporting bodies refrain from political actions and statements.First let me tell you I'm not here for the debate..and not discuss political things which country is right or wrong .
I'm more curious to know what you find crass in his statement..As a statement, i felt, his statements were assertive, selective in words with no direct or indirect attack on Pakistan people or its soldiers..Even in ground, except for avoiding handshakes, there were no demeaning behaviour by Indian players that has anything to do with the war ..so please clarify what you felt crass..
That felt like an act of violence by Sahibzada. As a sensitive viewer, I felt uncomfortable watching it.
I really am. Gun violence scars meJeez you really are a soft individual
And what about the hygiene of Pakistan players who had to shake hands with Indian players in the past? Do they not matter on a humanity level?Whatever the verdict, one thing is clear, Bhartiya board, media and janta need to boycott every single Pakistani player. 3rd grade players with an equally bad attitude, we won't miss out on much.
That was in poor taste, but were instructions passed on. The fun celebration however was totally a personal choice, and seemed to celebrate a terrorist attack like many posters do here quite openly.SKY skipping handshakes with fellow professional sportsmen is the most classless act I have witnessed by a cricket player.
You wouldn't be worried about that if you actually took a look at where your players come from. Might even be a slight upgrade.And what about the hygiene of Pakistan players who had to shake hands with Indian players in the past? Do they not matter on a humanity level?
First..standing with pahalgam victims- there is nothing wrong in saying standing with terror victims or dedicating the victory to terror victims who are mourning their personal losses..in past there were many such instances where sportsperson have addressed on terror attacks and mourned the loss of lives..so there is nothing wrong or crass about the statement.it only assures to the victims that the sportsperson care about them and respect their losses..Ok. Saying we stand with Indian forces and the victims of pehelgam. I think there is no place for this on a cricket field in front of a packed stadium in front of the country with whom they are at war effectively. Yes he can think and feel whatever he wants away from that arena. But in that arena it is a politically charged statement and that’s exactly why sporting bodies refrain from political actions and statements.
Now tell me why you disagree in a rational way if indeed you’re a thinker.
That’s a real horror take.First..standing with pahalgam victims- there is nothing wrong in saying standing with terror victims or dedicating the victory to terror victims who are mourning their personal losses..in past there were many such instances where sportsperson have addressed on terror attacks and mourned the loss of lives..so there is nothing wrong or crass about the statement.it only assures to the victims that the sportsperson care about them and respect their losses..
Second- dedicating victory to Armed forces- Armed forces not only does war things, they also does border security, eradication of terrorists, disaster and emergency management, social welfare..etc..they dedicate their lives so that we Indian sleep peacefully..As per Indian govt statements, nowhere it was mentioned as war with Pakistan, it was a precision attack on terrorists bases in pakistan which killed conspirators of Pahalgam attack( again here, I'm not going into the debate of whether it is true or false, which should be discussed seperately)..as it is so dedicating the victory to Armed forces for all their sacrifices and services in general with no mention of Pakistan as a statement is valid and nothing against sportsman spirit..it will be politically charged when there are any direct or indirect references to war or Pakistan like how Pakistan players did in the field..
As per me, as a statement, his words are more to address the indian diaspora who are questioning the match than to do with Pakistan..Its very well crafted statement and nothing crass about it..
Ok. You just illustrated my point beautifully. Thank you.First..standing with pahalgam victims- there is nothing wrong in saying standing with terror victims or dedicating the victory to terror victims who are mourning their personal losses..in past there were many such instances where sportsperson have addressed on terror attacks and mourned the loss of lives..so there is nothing wrong or crass about the statement.it only assures to the victims that the sportsperson care about them and respect their losses..
Second- dedicating victory to Armed forces- Armed forces not only does war things, they also does border security, eradication of terrorists, disaster and emergency management, social welfare..etc..they dedicate their lives so that we Indian sleep peacefully..As per Indian govt statements, nowhere it was mentioned as war with Pakistan, it was a precision attack on terrorists bases in pakistan which killed conspirators of Pahalgam attack( again here, I'm not going into the debate of whether it is true or false, which should be discussed seperately)..as it is so dedicating the victory to Armed forces for all their sacrifices and services in general with no mention of Pakistan as a statement is valid and nothing against sportsman spirit..it will be politically charged when there are any direct or indirect references to war or Pakistan like how Pakistan players did in the field..
As per me, as a statement, his words are more to address the indian diaspora who are questioning the match than to do with Pakistan..Its very well crafted statement and nothing crass about it..
However airplane, machine gun celebration or showing 6-0 is very classy act..playing sport is the sportsmanship..skipping handshake is the most decent thing a sportsperson can do to the country with conflict..Even Ukrainian tennis players did the same against Russian and Belarus players at Wimbledon..no one raised sportsmanship or questioned them..their sentiments are acknowledged..many such instances in the past across sports where sportspersons refused handshakes..SKY skipping handshakes with fellow professional sportsmen is the most classless act I have witnessed by a cricket player.
Those are classless acts too, that’s the whole point.However airplane, machine gun celebration or showing 6-0 is very classy act..playing sport is the sportsmanship..skipping handshake is the most decent thing a sportsperson can do to the country with conflict..Even Ukrainian tennis players did the same against Russian and Belarus players at Wimbledon..no one raised sportsmanship or questioned them..their sentiments are acknowledged..many such instances in the past across sports where sportspersons refused handshakes..
No..what you said was skipping handshake was the most classless act..so according to you is what Pak players did was less worse than India not giving handshake..No sports force Players to do handshake for the sake of it..it should be voluntary and not symbolic..within your country, if 2 players are having personal conflict, and they have to play each other in a sport, they will play each other, but you can't force them to shake hands and resolve the conflict for the sake of sports..hope you understand..Those are classless acts too, that’s the whole point.
I hope Farhan was also using some "josh" while doing that to India.@Devadwal and joshila pulled down his pants when he saw that celebration
Agreed they shouldn't have reported Surya. He will remain what he isComplaint was not needed at all.He will remain what he is