[PICTURES] For those who hail Jasprit Bumrah, must acknowledge the greatness of the Real Head of the Table (Imran Khan)

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An argument of authority is when you claim something to be 100% valid simply because someone else said so based of the fact that their in a position of authority to do so such as being an expert in that field,

The reason is a fallacy is because despite being experts in a field, their still giving opinions and not facts while makes them debunkabke in the first place.

Claiming one guy is superior over another due to said position is a fallacious claim.

A strawman is when you claim someone said something or implying their implying it based of a meaningless assumption which is what you did earlier.

Dude !!! You were the one that made a utterly baseless claim that the 19.4 avg was a myth and went on to "debunk" it by saying that removing JJ's performance against supposedly minnow teams like SL and WI it will come down to 26. You were soo adamant that you were right and I was wrong that you made a churlish remark that we need to get better at mathematics but we all know how that ended ....

Forget logical fallacies. ... that sort of argument it actually doesn't even need any reliance on reputed Cricket experts to dismantle your utterly biased views. Sorry but you have no leg to stand on in this debate and worse challenge the experts.

So the only pertinent fallacy that needs to be discussed here is the fallacy that applies to you : "The armchair expert fallacy"

This occurs when someone, despite lacking the necessary knowledge, dismisses expert consensus and insists they know better and often based on misguided confidence powered by deep bias and rage* rather than bare facts. It's a classic case of Dunning-Kruger effect in action ( look it up ).


* The rage that I am referring to is the Pakistani specialty that occurs when an Indian challenges the Great Khan on matters involving fast bowling. The immediate response is for the entire kaum to dive head first into a dry swimming pool n an attempt to teach the offending fish a lesson or in urdu : "Tumhari yeh Zurrat !!"







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[Sachin fan]

I hope you understand taking wickets of Konstas and Tim Paine are not the same as taking wickets of Ricky Ponting and Steve Waugh.

What I am trying to say is stats across two different eras shouldn't be compared. There are many factors.

So you take.worst batsman for bumrah and ignore he bowled to the likes of smith, warner, head and take besr batsmen for wasim and ignore australia also had likes of Geoff Marsh, david Boon, peter sleep and Dean Jones who were pretty average batters?

Brilliant logic

 

[Sachin fan]

Good that Bumrah is missing CT, chucker would have ruined the tournament his action is dubious, name one bowler from the past who action like Bumrah or close to Bumrah or synchronised with Bumrah

There have been many bowlers with hyperextension in cricket history including Akhtar.

not understanding anatomy and physics doesn't make hyperextension chucking.

 

[BouncerGuy]

I don't think this is a comparison. It is just about acknowledging Imran as a bowler. Bumrah is definitely one of the greatest of the current era but his only problem is longevity.

 

[RahulBose]

I don't think this is a comparison. It is just about acknowledging Imran as a bowler. Bumrah is definitely one of the greatest of the current era but his only problem is longevity.

I actually don't like the longevity point, today's cricketers are playing more cricket than ever,

So either we don't do cross era comparison or find someway to account for T20 and leagues as they too are cricket at the highest level.

 

[saimayubera]

I don't think this is a comparison. It is just about acknowledging Imran as a bowler. Bumrah is definitely one of the greatest of the current era but his only problem is longevity.

Bumrah has 205 at 19.4

Imran has 362 at 22.81 with a 25+ away average

At what point does longevity triumph quality?

Anderson has 704 at 26.45

The gap between Anderson and Imran is way larger (94% more wickets) than Imran and Bumrah (76% more wickets).

Also Bumrah is a current player so that wicket gap will come down even more.

 

[mominsaigol]

Bumrah has 205 at 19.4

Imran has 362 at 22.81 with a 25+ away average

At what point does longevity triumph quality?

Anderson has 704 at 26.45

The gap between Anderson and Imran is way larger (94% more wickets) than Imran and Bumrah (76% more wickets).

Also Bumrah is a current player so that wicket gap will come down even more.

Bumrah has maybe 2 to 3 years left imo. I thought he'd have more, but given he's injury prone, I can't see him going beyond 34-35.

I doubt he'll reach Imran's tally, he may reach 300 test wickets though

 

[saimayubera]

Bumrah has maybe 2 to 3 years left imo. I thought he'd have more, but given he's injury prone, I can't see him going beyond 34-35.

I doubt he'll reach Imran's tally, he may reach 300 test wickets though

should only play sena tests and world cups.

no need to play bilaterals or asia cup type stuff.

 

[Hitman]

should only play sena tests and world cups.

no need to play bilaterals or asia cup type stuff.

I'd say all Test matches + ODI WC + T20 WC.

 

[mominsaigol]

should only play sena tests and world cups.

no need to play bilaterals or asia cup type stuff.

Will have to play all tests to reach 300. But overall I agree, just sena and Icc events.

 

[saimayubera]

I'd say all Test matches + ODI WC + T20 WC.

maybe a few home tests. he is actually a really good asian conditions pacer as well but not as indispensable at home as away.

 

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I'd say all Test matches + ODI WC + T20 WC.

His body cannot handle that workload ... should stop playing ALL white ball cricket