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Babar seems lost in the field and going around looking for advice - dont think Misbah likes that and rightly so.

And if below image is an indicator - then things not looking good for this combo.

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We are losing our patience with this pathetic guy Misbah.
 
Babar is excellent batsmen but terrible captain.
Terrible captain with terrible coach won't win you many matches against top team
 
He should be losing patience with himself
 
Babar is not a bad captain but the same can’t be said about Misbah as a coach
 
Babar should be the one losing his patience with Misbah for giving him the likes of Iftikhar
 
Some Pakistanis take T20 waaay to seriously. Misbah seems to be one of those. It’s supposed to be fun cricket. :yk
 
Babar is a horrendous captain.

Absolutely clueless and looks like a deer in headlights.
 
Hafeez and malik are 10 time better bowler than iftkhar .Doesn't understand why ifti is given so much preference be it is in batting or bowling .
 
He shouldn’t be selecting trash like Ifti and Malik for the captain when we can try out new players.
 
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Babar would be clueless in this role, he's barely done the job at domestic level. Babar needs time and a bit more exposure to the role.

Yet another stupid decision from Misbah 'Totally Unqualified for the job' Ul-Haq.
 
The way the PCB goes about appointing captains annoys me. They just blindly appoint the best or the most senior player in the team ie Babar or Azhar Ali. There is no analysis or examination on whether the person has leadership skills, good on field captaincy skills, feel for the game.
 
Of course Babar should not be captain..
He should be left to concentrate on his batting.

Malik and Ifti in the T20 team is a crime against cricket
 
I always knew he was never captaincy material mainly for 2 reasons. Firstly, he’s not a natural leader. Secondly, his backing of Hafeez and Malik sums up his vision.

I could never understand why everyone was so desperate for him to be captain.
 
Savak said:
The way the PCB goes about appointing captains annoys me. They just blindly appoint the best or the most senior player in the team ie Babar or Azhar Ali. There is no analysis or examination on whether the person has leadership skills, good on field captaincy skills, feel for the game.
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You could say the same for their appointment of the coach
 
IMMY69 said:
Of course Babar should not be captain..
He should be left to concentrate on his batting.

Malik and Ifti in the T20 team is a crime against cricket
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I disagree. I think they will be very crucial players for us in the T20 WC next year.
 
Some posters were cursing Misbah for selecting Hafeez and Malik. Now they are cursing him for selecting Malik and Iftiqar. :)
 
But the biggest problem in Pakistan’s set-up isn’t Babar, it’s Misbah.
 
Misbah has done a great job thus far. Ok, we lost the first test, but had moral victories in the second and third tests.

This T20 team is a very good team that he has assembled. A mix of youth and experience. It is vitally important that Hafeez, Malik and Ifti stick around for the next two T20 WCs.
 
Misbah should be disappointed with himself for picking a senior 11 against Eng B. Unless we make Shahdab Limited over captain and get rid of all oldies, this team will continue to disappoint .
 
I said this from the Get go that Babar doesn’t have enough experience to become captain. It shows easily why he won’t let go of Malik and Hafeez as he feels like he needs them to help him.
Today I heard Rizwan telling Babar what to do and he was doing that. It shows Babar doesn’t have the leadership qualities and is too timid to be a captain. Just let him focus on his batting and find someone with more bottle to lead this team
 
Savak said:
The way the PCB goes about appointing captains annoys me. They just blindly appoint the best or the most senior player in the team ie Babar or Azhar Ali. There is no analysis or examination on whether the person has leadership skills, good on field captaincy skills, feel for the game.
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every team appoints their best young batsmen.as captain. Root, kohli, Smith, Williamson
 
Losing patience with team as a whole I guess.
 
Pakistan bowling in 20/20's had deteriorated rapidly in the last few years. Used to be the case anything over 140, Pakistan could defend easily more often than not. Now we cant defend a score close to 200!

Misbah's body language was horrible. As Coach, he was facepalming with only few overs in the chase by England!! He looks stressed out and dont think he will last long as chief selector/coach.
 
Babar didn't look like he had much control out there. A good captain knows how to assert himself and take decisions confidently. Today, Rizwan and Malik looked like they were in-charge at different points. Bowling was horrendous and the decision to let Iftikhar bowl a 3rd over ended up being a turning point imo.

Plus, the way that decision was taken made it look even worse because initially Shadab was brought on but one team meeting later Ifti was back. They should have counted themselves lucky that he got away with 2 tidy overs considering he is a part-timer and he did the job that was needed from him i.e making up for Amir's 2 overs but they pushed their luck and from that over onwards England were comfortably in the driver's seat.

This kind of lack of leadership hurts the team in tough situations when bowlers are already getting smashed all over the place. That said, I was surprised to not see Hafeez in the on-field team meetings. Usually giving unnecessary advice and acting like the captain is something he does regularly.
 
The policy of any international team is to select the XI first and then appoint the captain. Babar is the only sure thing in the XI. He is young so he is surely gonna make mistakes like every other captain around did in his younger days. Management and fans need to be patient with him. At the same time PCB should make sure Babar captain’s as much as he can in domestics, him not captaining in PSL is just rubbish.
 
He isn't captaincy material, and it isn't helped by the incompetent Misbah and Bekaar Younis who were too preoccupied conducting fitness tests not realising they were depriving Babar of one of his strike bowlers.
 
Watch Misbah give captaincy to Hafeez to relieve pressure from Babar.

I wouldn't mind Pakistan losing this if they were actually fielding an XI that was looking to build toward the future. Instead, we got Hafeez bullying the Tom Currans and the Saqib Mahmoods and building towards his future.
 
The problem is the seniors Because they are there he turns to them too much Too many people giving him advice like wasim said

He needs to make his own mistakes n learn from them

He needs to get everyone to back off preferably drop the oldies and take control of his own decisions
 
WASIM AKRAM is worried for Pakistan head coach Misbah-ul-Haq's mood after that defeat but was mightily impressed by England and Eoin Morgan, in particular...

"What a chase! I thought it would be tough, a close game but the way they started and changed their tactics against Imad Wasim showed how quickly they adapted. They was a massive calculation gone wrong from Pakistan, Amir went out for eight overs and they realised he couldn't bowl because he had been out for too long. Whose job is it to sit out there see what time he came out and has to come back?

"The way the England captain played, one of the best players in world cricket in this format recently. He changed the game in a matter of four overs. He was positive every time and that is so dangerous from a player like him."
 
He is knuckling under obviously. It's like the good guy of the class, does all his assignments before time and then makes sure he has time to help his mates too.

Will Misbah drop Malik and Iftikhar and bring Khushdil and Haider?
 
Babar needs to give up captaincy.

Misbah needs to get sacked.

I have lots of respect for both but they need to a favor and give up their roles.
 
Because everyone wants him to become a Kohli. But Babar is more like a Sachin than a Kohli. I think he will be better off focusing on his batting than on captaincy. Let someone like Imad Wasim be the captain for T20 and ODIs.

topspin said:
I always knew he was never captaincy material mainly for 2 reasons. Firstly, he’s not a natural leader. Secondly, his backing of Hafeez and Malik sums up his vision.

I could never understand why everyone was so desperate for him to be captain.
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Can’t fault Babar. There are a couple of selfish individuals there who are no doubt after captaincy role (Malik/Hafeez).

Thread title is misleading - we don’t exactly know why Misbah was looking frustrated.
 
MenInG said:
WASIM AKRAM is worried for Pakistan head coach Misbah-ul-Haq's mood after that defeat but was mightily impressed by England and Eoin Morgan, in particular...

"What a chase! I thought it would be tough, a close game but the way they started and changed their tactics against Imad Wasim showed how quickly they adapted. They was a massive calculation gone wrong from Pakistan, Amir went out for eight overs and they realised he couldn't bowl because he had been out for too long. Whose job is it to sit out there see what time he came out and has to come back?

"The way the England captain played, one of the best players in world cricket in this format recently. He changed the game in a matter of four overs. He was positive every time and that is so dangerous from a player like him."
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He’s right. Such things happen in T20I. Game can change in a matter of a few overs.

Losing Amir didn’t help either.
 
How dare misbah facepalm babar azam

Now posters saying drop hafeez and iftikhar after malik performed
 
MenInG said:
Babar seems lost in the field and going around looking for advice - dont think Misbah likes that and rightly so.

And if below image is an indicator - then things not looking good for this combo.

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What an absolute clown. Spent the whole game like this. Had a panic attack once he realised the laws of Tuk Tuk have been broken!
 
Savak said:
The way the PCB goes about appointing captains annoys me. They just blindly appoint the best or the most senior player in the team ie Babar or Azhar Ali. There is no analysis or examination on whether the person has leadership skills, good on field captaincy skills, feel for the game.
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It shouldn't annoy you because Pakistan has done nothing to groom young players for leadership roles. Very few players are natural leaders, others learn on the job. There is a reason why countries like Australia have so many good captains and its because they identify guys like Travis Head, Peter Handscomb, Mitchell Marsh at a young age, groom them and give them a chance to captain their state sides. Nothing happens overnight and granted, not everyone turns out to be an international level star. Someone like Mitchell Marsh for instance will probably struggle to get into the Australian side atm, let alone be captain. But then in the case of someone like Head, Australia have a very viable potential future leader aswell.

I think you should temper expectations based on what the PCB has done inregards to even identifying such guys, which is next to nothing. Making guys like Masood, Rizwan, Imad the captains of their regional teams is a start but there has to be a long term vision where you can see one or two of these guys becoming vice-captain in-case Babar fails to deliver. Unfortunately I haven't seen that long-term vision ever in Pakistan cricket. Captaincy has almost always been based on seniority, stature as a player or convenience.
 
sharmaji said:
Because everyone wants him to become a Kohli. But Babar is more like a Sachin than a Kohli. I think he will be better off focusing on his batting than on captaincy. Let someone like Imad Wasim be the captain for T20 and ODIs.
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Spot on. People look at Kohli, Smith, Root and Williamson and think oh Babar belongs into this bracket, so lets make him captain as well without realising that they are not only a level or two above him with the bat but also as leaders.

Babar is a timid man who doesn't have that ruthless streak in him to be leading the side.

The green tinted hype brigade like to hype about how's he's ranked no.1 but fail to realise that he has scored a lot of soft runs and inconsequential innings (like the one today) to get there.
 
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Energy said:
He is knuckling under obviously. It's like the good guy of the class, does all his assignments before time and then makes sure he has time to help his mates too.

Will Misbah drop Malik and Iftikhar and bring Khushdil and Haider?
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Why? Because Pakistan scored 195 and it was too low of a total?
 
Baba/Azhar are dummy captains today misbah & malik were calling the shots!
 
On a day when Pakistan's bowlers were smashed all over the place even after scoring a mammoth 195, it surprises me that everyone is focusing most on Misbah's facepalm and Hafeez, Malik. I mean did you guys even watch the match? Or the last 50 matches Pakistan played when Mickey Arthur would have his veins popping every 20 minutes?

If you want to criticize someone then atleast try to be objective instead of showcasing you pre-existing biases.
 
Mueez said:
Babar needs to give up captaincy.

Misbah needs to get sacked.

I have lots of respect for both but they need to a favor and give up their roles.
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There are no leaders in Pak cricket. It's shocking.

The reason we need u-25 captains in PSL and QeT trophy. The only way we might unearth one in the upcoming 3-4 years.
 
It’s nothing to do with Babar for gods sake, Misbah decision making is absolute bull crap, Misbah sent Amir back out to bowl knowing he couldn’t, it was Babar who realised and sent him back off!
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
There are no leaders in Pak cricket. It's shocking.

The reason we need u-25 captains in PSL and QeT trophy. The only way we might unearth one in the upcoming 3-4 years.
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I see a future captain in Rizwan, Shadab and Rohail Nazir. Pakistan doesn’t need a captain, we need a leader.

Agree with you that we need to groom some.
 
Mueez said:
I see a future captain in Rizwan, Shadab and Rohail Nazir. Pakistan doesn’t need a captain, we need a leader.

Agree with you that we need to groom some.
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Shadab is indeed a future prospect, but guys like Rizwan, Nazir have to first show that they belong to this level. Even Sarfraz had a golden year in his life.

Rizwan has had a few technical issues so I would wait a few series before declaring him the next most important person.
 
Babar Azam should be nowhere near this T20 captain role, let alone ODI captaincy.

Totally unqualified for the job, doesn't have the pre-requisite domestic experience in the role and to my knowledge, doesn't captain his PSL team either (KK management not confident in his ability oerhaps?). Quite clearly his knowledge of the game from a tactical point of view is lacking and today he looked out of ideas and didn't give off the vibe of a captain, it was the same in the Aussie t20s too. I can see why Babar wanted Hafeez/Malik back in the side: not just for the batting experience but also for a guiding hand in the captaincy.

We need Babar the batsmen atm, not the captain, more failures like today and that pressure will begin to affect his performances on front of the stumps. Why not appoint a more seasoned campaigner like Imad, even Hafeez if you insist on playing him.

Babar needs more time to develop his man-management skills and captaincy in the domestic game, totally a fish out of water in this part of the game.
 
Babar as captain for T20 is fine. I don't see any issues with seeking advice from guys twice his age on the field. He still needs to show some respect to his cricket uncles if not in cricket rank.

How many games has he captained? T20 is just tamasha cricket anyway. Good place to hone his skills before he starts playing ODI again and eventually takes up the Test captaincy.
 
You're being a little harsh on Babar here. He is, without a doubt, a gifted batsman and there is no reason why he can't achieve what Kohli and the company has achieved. I agree with you on the captaincy part, even though it is still early days and Babar might surprise all of us by quickly maturing as a captain. For that he needs to rely less on the seniors and make his own judgments.

topspin said:
Spot on. People look at Kohli, Smith, Root and Williamson and think oh Babar belongs into this bracket, so lets make him captain as well without realising that they are not only a level or two above him with the bat but also as leaders.

Babar is a timid man who doesn't have that ruthless streak in him to be leading the side.

The green tinted hype brigade like to hype about how's he's ranked no.1 but fail to realise that he has scored a lot of soft runs and inconsequential innings (like the one today) to get there.
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RedwoodOriginal said:
On a day when Pakistan's bowlers were smashed all over the place even after scoring a mammoth 195, it surprises me that everyone is focusing most on Misbah's facepalm and Hafeez, Malik. I mean did you guys even watch the match? Or the last 50 matches Pakistan played when Mickey Arthur would have his veins popping every 20 minutes?

If you want to criticize someone then atleast try to be objective instead of showcasing you pre-existing biases.
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People love to divert the blame. No one is talking about the bowling line up.

Usually its hafeez and malik who are bad. Hafeez performed, now posters are after misbah for selecting malik and ifti.
 
sharmaji said:
You're being a little harsh on Babar here. He is, without a doubt, a gifted batsman and there is no reason why he can't achieve what Kohli and the company has achieved. I agree with you on the captaincy part, even though it is still early days and Babar might surprise all of us by quickly maturing as a captain. For that he needs to rely less on the seniors and make his own judgments.
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Babar has to do more with the bat before we can draw comparisons between him and the fab 4. He's a good player but he's an 8/10 batsman rather than a 9 or a 10.
 
Credit to Babar that he is still scoring with the extra burden of captaincy on he’s shoulders
 
Misbah would be one to talk. We are all losing patience with him.
But this wasnt aimed at Babar. We have no way of knowing that. It was just a general frustration, I believe, because we were being pummelled by Bairstow and co. and losing momentum after having given a reasonably good target.
 
There were a few issues today that Misbah was not happy with. A couple that spring to mind are Babar sending Malik in ahead of Ifthikar, it was clear Misbah was not happy with that call by Babar.

Then the field placings was an issue - Misbah wanted the fielders on the edge of the circle but for some reason Babar was missing that point.

Not good scenes at all.
 
People laughed when mickey asked for shadab as captain.... Nevertheless BABAR is a new captain and the first player in the team sheet, let him grow as a captain... Pakistan will lose many matches....


If he is given captaincy alongside Malik and hafeez in the 11 then of course he will go running to them for advise as a senior...
 
Savak said:
These guys have leadership skills. Babar does not, atleast not yet
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Root seems to be at the same level as Babar. And at the same age, Kohli got a lot of help and guidance from seniors like Dhoni
 
Pakistan fans can't hold their nerves.
This is just initial phase, let him learn.
You guys are too harsh on Babar.
 
Babar isn’t going anywhere as captain. I am willing to give him more time. But I was a bit disturbed at how much he was going to other players for advice and decisions. He doesn’t need Malik and other senior players advice and blessings for every decision. Stick to your guns.
 
Yes Misbah that's how you encourage and teach a young inexperienced captain who is the future of Pakistan cricket, you put your head in your hands and sulk when he's getting it wrong. Misbah is a true mentor :facepalm
 
Energy said:
So you're saying Pakistan reached 195 due to Malik and Iftikhar?
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Has it really come down to this? That we are critiquing 10 ball innings?

Pakistan scored 195 which means the batting line-up delivered. There is no excuse to lose after scoring that kind of a total, even on the flattest of wickets. The bowling lost us the game so stop diverting the blame.
 
saeed5646 said:
Hafeez and malik are 10 time better bowler than iftkhar .Doesn't understand why ifti is given so much preference be it is in batting or bowling .
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I said it right then, Malik or hafeez should have bowled. Not necessarily because they are better at this stage of careers but the bats had had 2 overs to line up ifti, and you just have to mix it up in t20.

Also I want to know whose decision it was to bowl him that 3rd over, as shadab had taken the ball when the decision was changed
 
Indiafan said:
Root seems to be at the same level as Babar. And at the same age, Kohli got a lot of help and guidance from seniors like Dhoni
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That's true. But Kohli always had an imposing and uber confident personality. Everyone knew he was going to be a confident captain. Babar is just very different personality-wise. You don't have to be overtly aggressive like Kohli to be a good captain but confidence matters. Hopefully he will learn on the job.
 
I believe Wasim Khan has said that the PCB will give the team management one year before assessing their performance, its getting close to one year now.

Watching Misbah, it is clear he has zero idea or plans on what to do. The bowlers do not have defined roles, no research on batsmen and their strong, weak areas. More than Misbah, Waqar needs to be taken to task in this regard
 
Saj said:
There were a few issues today that Misbah was not happy with. A couple that spring to mind are Babar sending Malik in ahead of Ifthikar, it was clear Misbah was not happy with that call by Babar.

Then the field placings was an issue - Misbah wanted the fielders on the edge of the circle but for some reason Babar was missing that point.

Not good scenes at all.
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Misbah should be old enough to know he needs to groom Babar.
That is just not the way to do it.

Mickey used to wear his heart on his sleeve but it was totally different to this. Never took issue with the captain publicly.
His outburst were more on drops, wahab Riaz run up, Sohail khan and Irfan not being able to limber up to the crease when running in to bowl iirc.

This was just poor from misbah
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
That's true. But Kohli always had an imposing and uber confident personality. Everyone knew he was going to be a confident captain. Babar is just very different personality-wise. You don't have to be overtly aggressive like Kohli to be a good captain but confidence matters. Hopefully he will learn on the job.
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Exactly. You have the example of Kane Williamson who keeps quiet but seems confident in his decision making.

But Babar is too timid and it just doesn't lift this disintegrated Pakistani team. That's why other guys like Malik, Hafeez felt they had to interfere to make something happen. Babar himself creates this vacuum for others to take over.
 
Firebat said:
Yes Misbah that's how you encourage and teach a young inexperienced captain who is the future of Pakistan cricket, you put your head in your hands and sulk when he's getting it wrong. Misbah is a true mentor :facepalm
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This!!
 
You know why Misbah is putting his head in his hands? Because He knows he is on camera and he is throwing Babar under the bus, “I did all I could but I can’t play for these players or captain the team on the ground - and Babar is not following the plans.” After the game Misbah will be magnanimous, “young captain, still learning.”

You know why Younis was doing those cringe salutes to Hafeez? Because he knew he was on camera and was paying tributes to himself that Hafeez listened to me as his batting coach.

Waqar is incompetent. Misbah and Younus are Charlatans.
 
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