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[PICTURES] Joe Root: ‘Winning the Ashes in Australia would mean more than anything’

In the last 15 matches in Australia, England couldn't win any matches.At best they could draw few matches.
 
In the last 15 matches in Australia, England couldn't win any matches.At best they could draw few matches.
Aus has been super dominating team at home in the last 7-8 years when opposition is not India. Since 2018, Aus has W/L of 20 against all oppositions except India.

Next Ashes can be a perfect chance to Eng to do well and win the series in Aus. At least win some tests and draw the series if not win. Aus will have team legends on wrong side of 30s by then. Eng is looking good with new set of bowlers and Root/Brook are in top form. Everything going for Eng.

If Root scores couple of tons in Aus, it will go a long way in Eng doing well. It will also cement his legacy in cricket.
 
In the last 15 matches in Australia, England couldn't win any matches.At best they could draw few matches.
England needs to stop dropping in Cannon fodder like Jake Ball, Chris Woakes, Jack Leach and so forth. What needs to be done is being done, a battery of pacers + maybe one okay spinner for SCG, and not just the traditional 80mph wonderful swing bowler that only works in Eng/SA/NZ but actual 85mph+ pacers. English legends (Root, Stokes) are gonna be desperate for a big series in Australia too.

if the Ashes down under is ever to be competitive, it's this series
 
Aus has been super dominating team at home in the last 7-8 years when opposition is not India. Since 2018, Aus has W/L of 20 against all oppositions except India.

Next Ashes can be a perfect chance to Eng to do well and win the series in Aus. At least win some tests and draw the series if not win. Aus will have team legends on wrong side of 30s by then. Eng is looking good with new set of bowlers and Root/Brook are in top form. Everything going for Eng.

If Root scores couple of tons in Aus, it will go a long way in Eng doing well. It will also cement his legacy in cricket.
Root need to play better than ever in Aus to win the series.His ave is 36
 
England needs to stop dropping in Cannon fodder like Jake Ball, Chris Woakes, Jack Leach and so forth. What needs to be done is being done, a battery of pacers + maybe one okay spinner for SCG, and not just the traditional 80mph wonderful swing bowler that only works in Eng/SA/NZ but actual 85mph+ pacers. English legends (Root, Stokes) are gonna be desperate for a big series in Australia too.

if the Ashes down under is ever to be competitive, it's this series
Agree with that. Battery of pace with 85 mph+ pace will be far more effective than swing bowlers with 80 mph.

Eng right now has those options. Needs to play them in Aus. I will be highly dissapointed if Eng again plays those 80 mph swing bowlers based how they are doing it places like Eng/SA/NZ. Eng has resources to compete this time. Aus side has aged a lot compared to the last Ashes in Aus. Warner is gone as well.

Agree with the bold more. This is the series and Eng should make it count.
 
Root need to play better than ever in Aus to win the series.His ave is 36
Yes, he needs to play better, but it has to be a team effort. Without that Eng won't win series.

Outside of Hadlee in Aus, I am failing to remember when one player winning the series for his team in Aus. And then, Root is not a bowler who will pick 20 wickets. A batsman can score 4-5 tons in the same series but team can't win without 20 wickets. Kohli had an ATG series in Aus with 4 tons but India did not win a single test.

You need 20 wickets to win. In general, Bowlers win tests by outbowling opposition and batsmen win shorter formats by outbatting opposition. You can win shorter formats without pickign a single wicket but not test matches. You normally need to pick 20 wickets to win.

That's why 5-fers in tes wins when playing away against good teams is the most impactful performance by any player in test cricket. Only best of the best have done it with any consistency. Eng does not need to have such bowlers if as unit they can pick 20 wickets cheaply. Eng does have resources and needs to unleash that in Aus.

Not saying Root does not need to score. Root and Co. do need to put good scores but bowling needs to pick 20 wickets consistenly.
 
Warner's Ashes jibe 'part of the fun' - Root

England batter Joe Root says David Warner's pre-Ashes sledge is "all part of the fun" and believes he is better placed than ever to score his first Test century in Australia this winter.

Root, 34, continued his superb form this summer and will be key when England head to Australia in November to try to win the Ashes for the first time since 2015.

He has not scored a hundred in 14 Tests in Australia and, speaking to BBC Sport earlier this month, former Australia opener Warner said Root will have to "take the surfboard off his front leg" - a reference to the perception Root is regularly dismissed lbw.

"I can't have any control or say on how people see the game or talk in an interview," said Root. "It is irrelevant.

"What more can I do about it? Just keep my surfboard out the way and make sure it is not a talking point in 100 days' time."

Root and Warner will meet in The Hundred at Lord's on Thursday when the Englishman's Trent Rockets travel to play London Spirit.

Asked if he will respond to Warner's jibes on the field, Root said: "I don't think so.

"I guess it is all part of the fun, right? We will see what happens but it is not really in my nature to get too verbal."

While Root has never scored a century or won a Test in Australia, he has scored nine fifties and averages 35.68 - a respectable record although well below his career average of 51.29.

This summer he scored 537 runs in five Tests against India and moved up to second in the all-time Test run-scorers list behind only India legend Sachin Tendulkar.

"Having played in Australia a couple of times before, now going with 150-odd Test caps under my belt, I feel I couldn't be more ready for it," said Root.

"The thing that stands out for me is I probably wanted it [a century] way too much the last couple of times. It took me away from what was important."

Root added that there were "loads of other things to contend with" on the past two Ashes tours in Australia in 2021-22 and 2017-18, both of which the hosts won 4-0.

"There were a lot of distractions," said Root.

"I was captain, Covid [during the 2021-22 defeat], there was the Stokes incident the time before that, the Jonny [Bairstow] headbutt incident as well.

"This time I want to just go and enjoy the tour for what it is. It is a beautiful country it is a great place to go and play cricket.

"I know if I put my best performances in then everything else will look after itself."


 
You will never win a test series in Aus hell you won’t draw either

Sorry bro

Not sorry.
 
Root is missing the ashes trophy in Australia.. Can he win it this time???
 
Whatever anyone says about new and manufactured rivalries etc, the Ashes has always been the pinnacle for England-Aus players. Maybe for about 15 years in the 90s and early 2000s, it became a bit meh for the Aussies, but since 2005 it’s all about the ashes again

England made a fantastic decision to try their bench strength in the last game vs India. Nothing really to prove to a side you’ve recently beaten 4-0, 3-1, 3-1
 
Sorry, Joe.. but only India has the mental strength to beat Australia in Australia.
If England can't beat this AUstralia which could have potentially lost to India despite India's oldies presence then they should be ashamed of themselves.
 
Nothing really to prove to a side you’ve recently beaten 4-0, 3-1, 3-1
It is always recommended to know facts before making big claims. Last 4 test series result between the two teams:-

2-2 drawn
4-1 India won
2-2 drawn
3-1 India won

Overall: 11-6 India ahead.
 
Whatever anyone says about new and manufactured rivalries etc, the Ashes has always been the pinnacle for England-Aus players. Maybe for about 15 years in the 90s and early 2000s, it became a bit meh for the Aussies, but since 2005 it’s all about the ashes again

England made a fantastic decision to try their bench strength in the last game vs India. Nothing really to prove to a side you’ve recently beaten 4-0, 3-1, 3-1
Indeed, the only 2 genuine rivalries in Cricket are Eng Vs Aus, and Pak Vs Ind - the rest of these rivalries are fabricated to appease the insecure.

It can only be considered a bonafide rivalry if both sides see each other as rivals, sadly for India, Australia sees and breathes only one rival, England. (India is seen as a cash cow).

Looking forward to the Ashes, and I'm also taking the plunge with a TNT PAYG subscription - just not looking forward to the women's commentary! 😂😁😎
 
England should be very disappointed if they dont win. They treated every single series as preparation for the ashes down under.
Australia's batting is alot weaker now. Starc, Smith, Khawaja, Lyon are all nearing retirement, there isnt a better opportunity to win a series in Australia
 
England should be very disappointed if they dont win. They treated every single series as preparation for the ashes down under.
Australia's batting is alot weaker now. Starc, Smith, Khawaja, Lyon are all nearing retirement, there isnt a better opportunity to win a series in Australia
That is BS theory some spread for coping lol. Especially Stokes is particular about winning every match everywhere. They trounced NZ in NZ. obliterated pakistan in pakistan before industrial fans came into picture.

 
It is always recommended to know facts before making big claims. Last 4 test series result between the two teams:-

2-2 drawn
4-1 India won
2-2 drawn
3-1 India won

Overall: 11-6 India ahead.
We’re talking about in England. India haven’t reversed a defeat there for a long time. England are not bothered and the evidence is their team selection for the final match.
 
We’re talking about in England. India haven’t reversed a defeat there for a long time. England are not bothered and the evidence is their team selection for the final match.

Looks like that Oval game has left you lot scarred or something lol.

Sure England didn't care.. only that they still they managed to send out a man with a broken shoulder with an arm sling to help them win the game. I wonder why they did that if they're not bothered. :ROFLMAO:
 
Looks like that Oval game has left you lot scarred or something lol.

Sure England didn't care.. only that they still they managed to send out a man with a broken shoulder with an arm sling to help them win the game. I wonder why they did that if they're not bothered. :ROFLMAO:

They left the decision to Woakes and Woakes is definitely not a shoe in for the ashes, so he wanted to get some brownie points too. It is the Ashes after all, Chris desperately wants to be on that plane.

I’d love to tell our Indian friends that England tried to fight tooth and nail, but you need to be honest with your friends - it’s all about the Ashes. It’s always all about the Ashes
 
They left the decision to Woakes and Woakes is definitely not a shoe in for the ashes, so he wanted to get some brownie points too. It is the Ashes after all, Chris desperately wants to be on that plane.

I’d love to tell our Indian friends that England tried to fight tooth and nail, but you need to be honest with your friends - it’s all about the Ashes. It’s always all about the Ashes

"Chris Woakes was so desperate to get on the plane to Ashes that he had to risk getting injured for months and missing cricket by coming on to bat with a dislocated shoulder" . You need to proof read your posts before hitting that "post" button. :ROFLMAO:

You guys got all hopeful and trigger happy when you thought India would lose 4-1 (and then 3-1) and when that didn't transpire , it's been a hilarious cope fest and it's painfully obvious.
 
"Chris Woakes was so desperate to get on the plane to Ashes that he had to risk getting injured for months and missing cricket by coming on to bat with a dislocated shoulder" . You need to proof read your posts before hitting that "post" button. :ROFLMAO:

You guys got all hopeful and trigger happy when you thought India would lose 4-1 (and then 3-1) and when that didn't transpire , it's been a hilarious cope fest and it's painfully obvious.
That’s the whole point - for him it was worth the risk. If he doesn’t make the ashes squad, what’s another few months of rehab.

I mean come on he was facing Indian bowlers, they were barely hitting 140.
 
They left the decision to Woakes and Woakes is definitely not a shoe in for the ashes, so he wanted to get some brownie points too. It is the Ashes after all, Chris desperately wants to be on that plane.

I’d love to tell our Indian friends that England tried to fight tooth and nail, but you need to be honest with your friends - it’s all about the Ashes. It’s always all about the Ashes
I think even Ollie pope, Stokes have moved on lol
 
With friends like Sultan who needs enemies, as for hitting 140, remind us what speeds the Eagle and the beautiful bowler operate at even in 4 over stretches....

Those in glass houses and all that again....
 
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With friends like Sultan who needs enemies, as for hitting 140, remind us what speeds the Eagle and the beautiful bowler operate at even in 4 over stretches.....

Those in glass houses and all that again....
Yea agreed they are both rubbish and slow coaches and we are not afraid to admit it. We want more, we demand more, we’re not cheerleaders. Our fast bowling is the worst it’s ever been.

Our standards are much higher.

But this is the best India have ever had in terms of bowling era. This is your bowling peak and you have bowlers struggling to hit 140. That’s the real embarassment
 
England should be very disappointed if they dont win. They treated every single series as preparation for the ashes down under.
Australia's batting is alot weaker now. Starc, Smith, Khawaja, Lyon are all nearing retirement, there isnt a better opportunity to win a series in Australia
Yeah. They have set up with Australia in mind and have been building up to this moment for a long time.

For example Crawley is still in the side because he scored a nice 70 odd last time in Australia.

Aussies batting is over the hill. If England don't get a result they will be disappointed.
 
Yea agreed they are both rubbish and slow coaches and we are not afraid to admit it. We want more, we demand more, we’re not cheerleaders. Our fast bowling is the worst it’s ever been.

Our standards are much higher.

But this is the best India have ever had in terms of bowling era. This is your bowling peak and you have bowlers struggling to hit 140. That’s the real embarassment
How many times have I heard about Indian bowling peak, let's see...starting from Kapil to Srinath to Zaheer to Ishant to Umesh to Bumrah...

Every few years same old mantra, it's the peak of Indian bowling....

Whilst likes of you still reminiscing days of Imran and 2 Ws and saying this is our standards whilst the reality is the burnt out Eagle and a khoobsurat bowler....
 
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Yea agreed they are both rubbish and slow coaches and we are not afraid to admit it. We want more, we demand more, we’re not cheerleaders. Our fast bowling is the worst it’s ever been.

Our standards are much higher.

But this is the best India have ever had in terms of bowling era. This is your bowling peak and you have bowlers struggling to hit 140. That’s the real embarassment

The real embarassment is losing left right and centre to the likes of Bangladesh West Indies and getting knocked out of a World cup by a bunch of NRI Indians in the US. It's not winning or even drawing a single Test match in Australia for 3 decades running and having a 20-0 losing streak (again..not even a single draw) in SAF-AUS-NZ , the 15-1 WC record against your biggest rivals etc etc etc..

"oUr sTanDaRd aRe mUcH hIghEr :murali "


Even WI fans of the 80s wouldn't have had this level of arrogance lol. Empty vessels more noise or whatever.
 
The real embarassment is losing left right and centre to the likes of Bangladesh West Indies and getting knocked out of a World cup by a bunch of NRI Indians in the US. It's not winning or even drawing a single Test match in Australia for 3 decades running and having a 20-0 losing streak (again..not even a single draw) in SAF-AUS-NZ , the 15-1 WC record against your biggest rivals etc etc etc..

"oUr sTanDaRd aRe mUcH hIghEr :murali "


Even WI fans of the 80s wouldn't have had this level of arrogance lol. Empty vessels more noise or whatever.
Voice of True fans can be heard on youtube videos. Akthar said something like "There are so many collapses. We have been collapsing since 1947" lol
 
You can have the greatest ever Test team in history and yet Australia and England will value the Ashes over a series victory against your team. Did they consider the West Indian team from the mid 70's till the late 80's their main rival? No, they didn't. Even then the Ashes were the pinnacle for them, and they valued it over anything else.​
 
I am hearing a few of the quick Aussie boys are injured, bowlers that is, if true then Joe should get his 1st 100 and a possible ashes win in Aus.

Joe Root is usually unstoppable when everything goes his way...
 
Indeed, the only 2 genuine rivalries in Cricket are Eng Vs Aus, and Pak Vs Ind - the rest of these rivalries are fabricated to appease the insecure.

It can only be considered a bonafide rivalry if both sides see each other as rivals, sadly for India, Australia sees and breathes only one rival, England. (India is seen as a cash cow).

Looking forward to the Ashes, and I'm also taking the plunge with a TNT PAYG subscription - just not looking forward to the women's commentary! 😂😁😎
Nothing better than sitting down and watching the Ashes starting at midnight.

Better commentators (apart from the women), better analysis, no cringe wannabe commentators trying their hand at “wit” or “vit”.

It’s just good to see both England and Australia trying their hardest and not preparing for the next Ashes. This is where you get to watch the best English and Aussie players. Awesome!
 
Very excited for this series.

To all indian posters especially those that despise me and want to ride my corpse down Mount Everest, hopefully you leave out any root, Smith or player hate and avoid mentioning india or anything to do with India.
 
What's wrong with women commentators in cricket ?
Nothing - just don’t enjoy listening to their commentary. Personal choice.

There’s plenty of Male commentators I don’t enjoy listening to aswell - Harsha Bogle, Rameez Raja, Dinesh Karthik etc etc.

Any other questions? Nah didn’t think so
 
The real embarassment is losing left right and centre to the likes of Bangladesh West Indies and getting knocked out of a World cup by a bunch of NRI Indians in the US. It's not winning or even drawing a single Test match in Australia for 3 decades running and having a 20-0 losing streak (again..not even a single draw) in SAF-AUS-NZ , the 15-1 WC record against your biggest rivals etc etc etc..

"oUr sTanDaRd aRe mUcH hIghEr :murali "


Even WI fans of the 80s wouldn't have had this level of arrogance lol. Empty vessels more noise or whatever.
I don’t quite know what point you’re trying to make - I’m probably the harshest critic of the current Pakistan team.

Take a few deep breaths and get a grip
 
I don’t quite know what point you’re trying to make - I’m probably the harshest critic of the current Pakistan team.

Take a few deep breaths and get a grip

Nah I'm good. Was just showing you what "real embarassment" actually is or what it looks like as you seem to have a weird perspective for it.
 
Nothing better than sitting down and watching the Ashes starting at midnight.

Better commentators (apart from the women), better analysis, no cringe wannabe commentators trying their hand at “wit” or “vit”.

It’s just good to see both England and Australia trying their hardest and not preparing for the next Ashes. This is where you get to watch the best English and Aussie players. Awesome!
Spot on.

Being in IT I often burn the midnight oil, and the Ashes down under will be the perfect backdrop! Though the last thing I want to hear is a nagging wet wipe commentator who’s pretending to have faced a 90mph bouncer in her life.

Fun fact : It was a woman who first scored an official ICC double century in an ODI - Belinda Clarke - 229* in 1997 vs Denmark. Of course only possible with the boundaries about 50 min in, but it wasn’t Tendulkar who scored the first double century in ODIs. 😎🫶😅
 
Spot on.

Being in IT I often burn the midnight oil, and the Ashes down under will be the perfect backdrop! Though the last thing I want to hear is a nagging wet wipe commentator who’s pretending to have faced a 90mph bouncer in her life.

Fun fact : It was a woman who first scored an official ICC double century in an ODI - Belinda Clarke - 229* in 1997 vs Denmark. Of course only possible with the boundaries about 50 min in, but it wasn’t Tendulkar who scored the first double century in ODIs. 😎🫶😅
Poor little teenda, nearly every record of his has an asterisk!

First to a double century in ODIs…well actually a lady did it before he did.

So called hundred hundreds - oh yea the 100th was against a minnow…and errm in a losing cause!
 
Poor little teenda, nearly every record of his has an asterisk!

First to a double century in ODIs…well actually a lady did it before he did.

So called hundred hundreds - oh yea the 100th was against a minnow…and errm in a losing cause!
It gets worse for the cult of Sachinistas.

Technically and legally speaking, the great SIR Geoffrey Boycott was the first to 100 First Class centuries. The king Viv and Mark Ramprakash followed.

Scoring 100 centuries in first class cricket was achieved way before the first MRF Genius batsman. Test/ODI stats are also included in first class stats.

But no, the cult united with Shiv Sena in Mumbai and literally added a caveat - Teenda will be the first to score 100 international centuries.

Well, statistically, technically, legally, this would never hold up in court, cos even if you score 100 international centuries, it counts as 100 first class centuries, first.


💚👊😎🇵🇰
 
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Clearly Ashes is most important for England and Australia. Not the series vs India which will hurt Indians.
Series vs India was just practise for the Ashes.

Stokes and Jofra rested for final teat just goes to show what they think of India.

You will never in your Sunday dreams see Stoke and Jofra sit out vs Australia.

In fact, I would go as far as saying the final test was a stick and carrot move by the ECB. The carrot being the draw of course.

Got the monies, to hell with BCCI! 😂
 
Series vs India was just practise for the Ashes.

Stokes and Jofra rested for final teat just goes to show what they think of India.

You will never in your Sunday dreams see Stoke and Jofra sit out vs Australia.

In fact, I would go as far as saying the final test was a stick and carrot move by the ECB. The carrot being the draw of course.

Got the monies, to hell with BCCI! 😂
The fact that Jofra was even brought back for this series is proof of how seriously England were about practicing for the Ashes. Got him some much needed match practice.

Jofra proved he is available for Ashes selection. They would have never risked Jofra cold in the Ashes.

England played this expertly.
 
The fact that Jofra was even brought back for this series is proof of how seriously England were about practicing for the Ashes. Got him some much needed match practice.

Jofra proved he is available for Ashes selection. They would have never risked Jofra cold in the Ashes.

England played this expertly.
I would say England played this royally, almost Queen Victoria style. 💚
 
I think y'all have mentioned this about 900 times now this month. Never seen such dedication to putting out a message.

Goes to show how much these lot are hurt by the 2-2 draw for some reason . Never seen somehow try to cope as hard as these bunch over a simple result.

Honestly hilarious.. :yk
 
I think y'all have mentioned this about 900 times now this month. Never seen such dedication to putting out a message.
You may not know, I'm quite a busy person and don't have the luxury of time like some others, such as @ Rana who manages to post 900 RizBar related messages every month. That being said, could you assist me in finding the remaining 899 posts?
 
More than the lack of centuries it is the average that is surprising. closer inspection reveals out of the 25 dismissals 17 dismissals were either by edge to keeper or slip. (10 to keepers). Seems like he is fishing a lot in Australia.
Don't know but I have a gut feeling, this will be his best Aus tour
 
Don't know but I have a gut feeling, this will be his best Aus tour
He has issues against bounce. I know he can manage. His staple shot is dab to third man much like it is for Kane. Both are risky shots in Australia. You can't play with angled bat. You have to play square of the wicket than straight bat or angled bat. More than him Brook is likely to score more. Just a guess.
 
Don't know but I have a gut feeling, this will be his best Aus tour
Every run will bring him closer to knocking off the most overrated batsman in history off his pirch.

To be fair Root has already surpassed Sachin, more centuries in winning causes is the only metric needed.

The record is just a rubber stamp, we already know Tendulkar is ignored outside of India.
 
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At the risk of sounding like a broken record but if Joe Root is to be seen as an all time great English player (a la Hobbs, Hammond) he has to score big runs in Australia — it is the opposition that matters the most to English players and fans and this is in their backyard.

Incidentally, SRT has a phenomenal record in Aus (at a time when Australia were a very strong team).
 
SRT living rent free in N_H and Jeera Blades mind ......

Yeap.

All 3 times: SRT, SRT, SRT,

And now

Narendra Modi.

Some Pakistanis need to stop giving this much power and control to these 2 Indians, if they can't then need to take medication, as they are disturbed mentally.
 
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Whatever anyone says about new and manufactured rivalries etc, the Ashes has always been the pinnacle for England-Aus players. Maybe for about 15 years in the 90s and early 2000s, it became a bit meh for the Aussies, but since 2005 it’s all about the ashes again

England made a fantastic decision to try their bench strength in the last game vs India. Nothing really to prove to a side you’ve recently beaten 4-0, 3-1, 3-1
Those times when there is no serious cricket on....and its a weekend night and to pass the unrelenting hour in search for entertainment you turn to PP and discover such gems... :mw1
 
It would be interesting to know how many Indians will be tuning in to watch Root edge closer to #1 test record.

No doubt Root will be subjected to endless kala jaddo, and Indian media onslaught and propaganda.

One thing it will prove, is that India does care and is having sleepness nights.

I reckon upcoming Ashes series will be the most watched - for good reason too.
 
I think Brook will be even more important than Root. Root is better vs spin and swing, but Brook seems better vs seam and high pace.
Brook always puts the opposition under immense pressure whenever he gets going. His high scores are more impactful
 
Apart from Archer, who is very injury-prone (might not play more than 2-3 Ashes tests), the rest of the English pace attack does not look penetrative enough to me for Aussie bouncy pitches. Wood is another bowler whose career has been riddled with fitness/injury issues. Bowlers like Tongue and Woakes might thrive more in the seam-friendly conditions of New Zealand + England lacks a quality spinner. Spinners generally do well in Sydney.
 
GUYS, PLEASE READ THE TITLE OF THE THREAD AGAIN

KEEP PERSONAL STUFF AND SACHING RELATED STUFF AWAY FROM THIS THREAD
 
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Apart from Archer, who is very injury-prone (might not play more than 2-3 Ashes tests), the rest of the English pace attack does not look penetrative enough to me for Aussie bouncy pitches. Wood is another bowler whose career has been riddled with fitness/injury issues. Bowlers like Tongue and Woakes might thrive more in the seam-friendly conditions of New Zealand + England lacks a quality spinner. Spinners generally do well in Sydney.

Archer even when he plays declines in his second and third spell onwards.
 
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