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Rana said:
He can bat, so what are you trying to pin on me? Amir Yamin can bat too, it doesn’t change the fact that his main strength as a T20 bowler is his ability to bowl swing with control in the powerplay.

Both Imad and Amir are more competent outside of the powerplay batters than Babar and Rizwan at least. Both are more likely to hit 6x4s in the super over if needed over Babar
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Yea we saw how well he hit Axar Patel. Was striking lower than Rizbar.

We also witnessed Amir's super over competency vs the USA.
 
daytrader said:
Yea we saw how well he hit Axar Patel. Was striking lower than Rizbar.

We also witnessed Amir's super over competency vs the USA.
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Yes Rizwan was striking at 220 v India and both RizBar stepped up for Pakistan to score 6x4 in in the powerplay
 
Rana said:
Yes Rizwan was striking at 220 v India and both RizBar stepped up for Pakistan to score 6x4 in in the powerplay
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Oh boo hoo keep trying to divert. I'm surprised the rest of the gang hasn't shown up to help you cope.

Btw pardon my French but tussi kitny L khade? Mun wichon stench twade ban gye ne chale
 
See i told you, Gwader is a big propoganda.

Its not habitable
 
Rana said:
Listened to the entire, abysmal podcast of Ali Tareen owner of Multan Sultans. Will make many pointers from that podcast later on.

One thing that is worth noting is that he mentioned Glenn Chapman is only available for the second half of the tournament as he is expecting a baby.
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yeh he is also blamed Imad Wasim for the World T20 2024. Loved his podcast
 
Major said:
yeh he is also blamed Imad Wasim for the World T20 2024. Loved his podcast
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Yeah but you said Nike sponsored Misbah ul Haq with no proof of this claim. Who cares about what you think is correct?
 
Some of the retentions have been wild to say the least, however some good Pakistan players have become available such as Aamir Jamal.

Haseebullah Khan being let go by PZ was a good decision, it will allow Haris to keep, which Pakistan could do with.

On a side note: I kind like the overseas, of course it's not at the level of IPL which is expected but still some of the names available is solid such as Matthew Short, Cooper Connolly, Brandon King etc.
 
TeymurBlake said:
Some of the retentions have been wild to say the least, however some good Pakistan players have become available such as Aamir Jamal.

Haseebullah Khan being let go by PZ was a good decision, it will allow Haris to keep, which Pakistan could do with.

On a side note: I kind like the overseas, of course it's not at the level of IPL which is expected but still some of the names available is solid such as Matthew Short, Cooper Connolly, Brandon King etc.
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Short, yes. But I don't see anything special about Connolly or King.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
That was a stupid move from the start because there weren’t any facilities available to host such an event.
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True, but whats more hilarious is how pakistanis fell for such gimacks each year.

People think gwader is some cool heavenly place when its clearly not
 
daytrader said:
Not confusing at all when you consider the fact that batting and bowling are two separate facets of the game. Was Imad selected for his PP bowling or his batting heroics in the PSL final? He didn't bowl in the PP vs India. We didn't need him for that. He was selected for finishing the innings which he couldn't do. Imad had about 8 overs left with the RRR being a measly 6 when came to bat. He played 4 dots straight away. He fell in the last over so he had plenty of time to bat but he failed miserably. It's an accurate assessment of both his batting (lack of) and bowling capabilities.
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NY pitch was an absolute minefield. 120 was > par. Pant played a match winning knock.

Even the guy you worship rizwan scored 31 of 44 balls in a t20 game. And if people watched that game, they'd know that opening was the easiest time to bat. The game was such that the first 6 overs decided the game.

I am not defending imad since he had poor fitness issues, couldn't run properly in the cup and it was clear he was finished as an international player. He ironically was still a better batter then chacha in 2024 though lol.

However it's not like imad was batting on a road and he botched it. Pitch was crazy hard and their was alot of uneven bounce, infact the bounce was a minefield.

Imad did not miss 4 straight balls in a row. The balls were very difficult to predict where they'd bounce up. Easy to critise when watching on a screen but not as easy to play when you're out their batting live.
 
mominsaigol said:
NY pitch was an absolute minefield. 120 was > par. Pant played a match winning knock.

Even the guy you worship rizwan scored 31 of 44 balls in a t20 game. And if people watched that game, they'd know that opening was the easiest time to bat. The game was such that the first 6 overs decided the game.

I am not defending imad since he had poor fitness issues, couldn't run properly in the cup and it was clear he was finished as an international player. He ironically was still a better batter then chacha in 2024 though lol.

However it's not like imad was batting on a road and he botched it. Pitch was crazy hard and their was alot of uneven bounce, infact the bounce was a minefield.

Imad did not miss 4 straight balls in a row. The balls were very difficult to predict where they'd bounce up. Easy to critise when watching on a screen but not as easy to play when you're out their batting live.
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But with that being said. It's good to see you @daytrader from time to time. Happy 2025.
 
Ali Tareen needs to reign himself in. He is talking too much and it is coming across as unprofessional.

He basically said in his podcast that David Warner has the reputation of being a disruptive force in the dressingroom, a T20 mercenary and he won't give a **** about the team he plays in as long as he gets a nice paycheque.

Similarly he is tweeting that Kane Williamson has demanded a guarantee from the PCB and the PSL about being picked in the platinum guarantee if he registers himself in the draft.

These revelations will be damaging for the PSL.
 
Major said:
True, but whats more hilarious is how pakistanis fell for such gimacks each year.

People think gwader is some cool heavenly place when its clearly not
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It wouldn't surprise me if they chose Gwadar to use in marketing when they sell dead plots to overseas Pakistani. We have plenty of events across the UK selling the Gwadar dream
 
Was listening to a podcast of two massive cricket journalists in Pakistan.

One of them claimed that recently in the ILT20, Joe Root refused to play in a franchise if they are signing Babar Azam. He told them straight up that only one of those two (Babar and Root) can play in the same team.

I suspect this is the year when Babar was apparently offered a huge ILT20 contract but then he refused and decided to play BPL claiming he wants to improve his game against spin.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Short, yes. But I don't see anything special about Connolly or King.
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I do think Connolly is better than what he’s shown. King does have some technical deficiencies however he is a powerful striker.

I don’t know how either would be on spin friendly conditions but would be solid on pace friendly pitches.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
It wouldn't surprise me if they chose Gwadar to use in marketing when they sell dead plots to overseas Pakistani. We have plenty of events across the UK selling the Gwadar dream
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if its a DHA plot do look into it
 
mominsaigol said:
NY pitch was an absolute minefield. 120 was > par. Pant played a match winning knock.

Even the guy you worship rizwan scored 31 of 44 balls in a t20 game. And if people watched that game, they'd know that opening was the easiest time to bat. The game was such that the first 6 overs decided the game.

I am not defending imad since he had poor fitness issues, couldn't run properly in the cup and it was clear he was finished as an international player. He ironically was still a better batter then chacha in 2024 though lol.

However it's not like imad was batting on a road and he botched it. Pitch was crazy hard and their was alot of uneven bounce, infact the bounce was a minefield.

Imad did not miss 4 straight balls in a row. The balls were very difficult to predict where they'd bounce up. Easy to critise when watching on a screen but not as easy to play when you're out their batting live.
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Minefiled or not. We were in a winning position needing 40 runs off the last 36 balls with 7 wickets in hand. We had a 93% chance of victory. Rizwan's opening set this up. Imad is the one who bottled it. It's easy to build other narratives, reality is for all to see.
 
daytrader said:
Minefiled or not. We were in a winning position needing 40 runs off the last 36 balls with 7 wickets in hand. We had a 93% chance of victory. Rizwan's opening set this up. Imad is the one who bottled it. It's easy to build other narratives, reality is for all to see.
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Even Ali Tareen bashed Imad.
 
SO unfortunate that Gawadar is not hosting it anymore. It was always on the cards. Lahore is the ultimate place for PCB to revert to.
 
daytrader said:
Minefiled or not. We were in a winning position needing 40 runs off the last 36 balls with 7 wickets in hand. We had a 93% chance of victory. Rizwan's opening set this up. Imad is the one who bottled it. It's easy to build other narratives, reality is for all to see.
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Not a narrative. Infact that's what you're doing since rizwan's 31 of 44 ensured Pakistan was well behind.

Those 2 sixes from fakhar brought the rr down.
 
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mominsaigol said:
Not a narrative. Infact that's what you're doing since rizwan's 31 of 44 ensured Pakistan was well behind.

Those 2 sixes from fakhar brought the rr down.
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Not a narrative? So is it a coincidence that you guys have pitted every Tom, Dick and Harry as being better than Rizwan and Babar since the past few years? Save it bro, I see through the fakeness.

And you're wrong. Fakhar didn't hit 2 sixes. He hit one and Rizwan hit one. We only had 2 sixes in the match.
 
daytrader said:
Not a narrative? So is it a coincidence that you guys have pitted every Tom, Dick and Harry as being better than Rizwan and Babar since the past few years? Save it bro, I see through the fakeness.

And you're wrong. Fakhar didn't hit 2 sixes. He hit one and Rizwan hit one. We only had 2 sixes in the match.
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Firstly don't put babar and rizwan in the same sentence over and over. Idkw you guys equate the 2 when theirs a difference.

Babar is a god awful t20 and test batter however in odi he's not bad. Decent accumulator and an assest to the team. He isn't the best in the world but he is good.

But even in t20 and tests theirs a huge gap between him and rizwan.

Now when it comes to rizwan, in t20 100% almost every tom dick and Harry is superior to him. I've never seen such a crap t20 opener in my life.

His game vs sa was comedy gold. His sr of 90 in a world cup is even more comical.

He's played one good t20 innings in his life against a quality side which is India. Beyond that he's horrible.

31 of 44 in a t20 game is not a platform, nor is it a good innings or even remotely justifiable from any angle.

Pitch is a minefield, 120 is > Par score, India innings showed clear evidence the easiest place to bat is at opening and you're saying he built a platform by scoring less then 6 RR himself? What kind of logic is that?
 
mominsaigol said:
Firstly don't put babar and rizwan in the same sentence over and over. Idkw you guys equate the 2 when theirs a difference.

Babar is a god awful t20 and test batter however in odi he's not bad. Decent accumulator and an assest to the team. He isn't the best in the world but he is good.

But even in t20 and tests theirs a huge gap between him and rizwan.

Now when it comes to rizwan, in t20 100% almost every tom dick and Harry is superior to him. I've never seen such a crap t20 opener in my life.

His game vs sa was comedy gold. His sr of 90 in a world cup is even more comical.

He's played one good t20 innings in his life against a quality side which is India. Beyond that he's horrible.

31 of 44 in a t20 game is not a platform, nor is it a good innings or even remotely justifiable from any angle.

Pitch is a minefield, 120 is > Par score, India innings showed clear evidence the easiest place to bat is at opening and you're saying he built a platform by scoring less then 6 RR himself? What kind of logic is that?
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Tbh both of you are right.

Rizwan's batting was utterly atricious and 31 off 44, in no conditions or format is ever acceptable when chasing a run a ball. Especially in a T20 game and a few more risks at the start and the game could have been over earlier for us as India would have been under pressure. But for Imad... at the same you're a professional cricketer with now a decade and more experience playing in international cricket and franchises around the globe, there is no way 40 off 36 with 7 in hand should ever be bottled. The score was so low at that point 2 boundaries in a single over and a third anywhere else would have finished the game in our favour.

The truth is as I said it at the time too, Imad was a great option....max around 2021. I'll never forget his innings in 2019 where he single handedly won us the Afghanistan game and I feel over his career he was horribly utilised as batsman when he clearly had the talent. But his performance in that T20 game vs India was poor and its not a solitary criticism, we were all poor in that run chase.

The truth is there is no point criticising one single player. This is not the one first game we have ever bottled against India. In 1996 we were 80/0 after 9 and 113/1 after 13. With only 175 left in 36, less than a run a ball against a totally garbage Indian side. Our entire middle order bottled it and utterly ruined the run chase. In 1999 we were chasing a joke of a target against an utterly dire Indian team and we bottled it. In 2003 had Anwar not made a century we'd not even made 200. 2011....the less said the better where we first let India off from 160/5 and then couldn't chase 260 on that pitch. 2022 India needed 48 off 18 then 36 off 12 and we lost. This bottling against India act winnable points has a decades ago history and involves all our legends from Inzimam to Yousaf to Younis. None of whom never amounted to anything in crucial games, the first 2 averaged 20 across 5 WCs. The truth is they're seen in better light as they absolutely humiliated India in the 1990s in Sharjah games and bilaterals. But you put our current team against Srinath, Prasad, Parbarkhar, Mongia, Mohanty and give them Saeed Anwar, Wasim, Waqar, Saqlain and Mushtaq then they'd do the exact same. The only player who ever did anything against India in crucial games was Saeed Anwar. 1996 and 2003 being the highlights.

Our old teams with legends had the same trash performances against India but because they humiliated India in bilaterals for years and won Sharjahs against the same dire Indian sides everyone's forgotten about it and they're seen in a better light despite choking across 2 decades in winnable games and letting this nonsense 'streak' start. For us right now India is in the best phase of their history and our current lot don't have the luxury of facing a Debinash Mohanty led attack.

Sorry for the long ramble!
 
mominsaigol said:
Firstly don't put babar and rizwan in the same sentence over and over. Idkw you guys equate the 2 when theirs a difference.
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Very good bro, hope you remember this next time you equivalate them because your gang usually bashes them together.

mominsaigol said:
Babar is a god awful t20 and test batter however in odi he's not bad. Decent accumulator and an assest to the team. He isn't the best in the world but he is good.
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Not bad and not the best in the World, your lot is confused sir. Babar Sher is ranked #1 in ODIs for 3 years now


mominsaigol said:
Now when it comes to rizwan, in t20 100% almost every tom dick and Harry is superior to him. I've never seen such a crap t20 opener in my life.
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I guess you haven't seen much cricket then. Rizwan in T20Is tops the list when it comes to hitting sixes for Pakistan. Who's superior to him in Pakistan?

mominsaigol said:
His game vs sa was comedy gold. His sr of 90 in a world cup is even more comical.
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Which game are you referring to, we can analyze.

mominsaigol said:
He's played one good t20 innings in his life against a quality side which is India. Beyond that he's horrible.
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Salute to him for getting us our only win against India in World Cups. A true champ

mominsaigol said:
31 of 44 in a t20 game is not a platform, nor is it a good innings or even remotely justifiable from any angle.
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It is when you're chasing 120 on a 'minefield'. He set the platform with a 93% chance to win. It takes a special effort to lose from that. Imad and the lower order did not disappoint in that regard. They only managed 1 boundary and that too came off an edge off of Imad's bat.

mominsaigol said:
Pitch is a minefield, 120 is > Par score, India innings showed clear evidence the easiest place to bat is at opening and you're saying he built a platform by scoring less then 6 RR himself? What kind of logic is that?
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Did you even watch the Indian innings? PP was not easy to bat. Pant was the top scorer but he got lucky and was almost out on 3 occasions. And as the match progressed the pitch got harder. Bear in mind Pakistan batted 2nd on that pitch.
 
Pakpak said:
Tbh both of you are right.

Rizwan's batting was utterly atricious and 31 off 44, in no conditions or format is ever acceptable when chasing a run a ball. Especially in a T20 game and a few more risks at the start and the game could have been over earlier for us as India would have been under pressure. But for Imad... at the same you're a professional cricketer with now a decade and more experience playing in international cricket and franchises around the globe, there is no way 40 off 36 with 7 in hand should ever be bottled. The score was so low at that point 2 boundaries in a single over and a third anywhere else would have finished the game in our favour.

The truth is as I said it at the time too, Imad was a great option....max around 2021. I'll never forget his innings in 2019 where he single handedly won us the Afghanistan game and I feel over his career he was horribly utilised as batsman when he clearly had the talent. But his performance in that T20 game vs India was poor and its not a solitary criticism, we were all poor in that run chase.

The truth is there is no point criticising one single player. This is not the one first game we have ever bottled against India. In 1996 we were 80/0 after 9 and 113/1 after 13. With only 175 left in 36, less than a run a ball against a totally garbage Indian side. Our entire middle order bottled it and utterly ruined the run chase. In 1999 we were chasing a joke of a target against an utterly dire Indian team and we bottled it. In 2003 had Anwar not made a century we'd not even made 200. 2011....the less said the better where we first let India off from 160/5 and then couldn't chase 260 on that pitch. 2022 India needed 48 off 18 then 36 off 12 and we lost. This bottling against India act winnable points has a decades ago history and involves all our legends from Inzimam to Yousaf to Younis. None of whom never amounted to anything in crucial games, the first 2 averaged 20 across 5 WCs. The truth is they're seen in better light as they absolutely humiliated India in the 1990s in Sharjah games and bilaterals. But you put our current team against Srinath, Prasad, Parbarkhar, Mongia, Mohanty and give them Saeed Anwar, Wasim, Waqar, Saqlain and Mushtaq then they'd do the exact same. The only player who ever did anything against India in crucial games was Saeed Anwar. 1996 and 2003 being the highlights.

Our old teams with legends had the same trash performances against India but because they humiliated India in bilaterals for years and won Sharjahs against the same dire Indian sides everyone's forgotten about it and they're seen in a better light despite choking across 2 decades in winnable games and letting this nonsense 'streak' start. For us right now India is in the best phase of their history and our current lot don't have the luxury of facing a Debinash Mohanty led attack.

Sorry for the long ramble!
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Spot on. Even our legends had trouble with India in World Cups. Solely blaming Rizwan or Babar for losses diverts from the actual problem which is, our batting overall is not good enough.
 
daytrader said:
Spot on. Even our legends had trouble with India in World Cups. Solely blaming Rizwan or Babar for losses diverts from the actual problem which is, our batting overall is not good enough.
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They can't deal with pressure while batting. That's why players like Fakhar are literally God sent.
 
Rana said:
Opening what? The gate for India?

He was dropped by Dube earlier on. He was never in control of what he was doing. Don’t try to make it out as if he was.
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His control rate was 70%. Compared to India's highest scorer, Rishabh Pant who's was 50%. If you said he didn't take enough risks, it would've made more sense.

Also don't try to make it as we weren't in a winning position when we had a 93% chance of victory
 
daytrader said:
His control rate was 70%
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Where? In the planet he lives in his mind? What was his control percentage against Sri Lanka in the final? Or against SA in the first T20i? Or against Australia when he produced 16 off 26 in the powerplay?

Admit it, the whole anchor rubbish is an excuse formed to mask his incompetence as a T20 batter. You seem to become to emotional to defend this rubbish which has no place in the current T20 scenario. I would advise that you either wait for him to do something that can be boasted about even according to your flimsy standards of T20 powerplay batting, or do not create content that can come back to haunt you, just like the 6x4 argument.
 
RidiculousMan said:
They can't deal with pressure while batting. That's why players like Fakhar are literally God sent.
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A god sent who is shifted out of his batting position to number 4 so that the useless can open and be a nuisance?
 
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Rana said:
Where? In the planet he lives in his mind? What was his control percentage against Sri Lanka in the final? Or against SA in the first T20i? Or against Australia when he produced 16 off 26 in the powerplay?

Admit it, the whole anchor rubbish is an excuse formed to mask his incompetence as a T20 batter. You seem to become to emotional to defend this rubbish which has no place in the current T20 scenario. I would advise that you either wait for him to do something that can be boasted about even according to your flimsy standards of T20 powerplay batting, or do not create content that can come back to haunt you, just like the 6x4 argument.
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"Pant had a control percentage of 50% in his 31-ball 42 and, frankly, even that feels high. He could've been out at least thrice. But he took risks on a pitch that needed taking risks on, and it came off. Rizwan's control percentage was 70%" - Osman Samiuddin

Only one making content is you for the past 3 years. The 6x4 wasn't an argument but an opinion. You can hold on to it while i continue to expose you with facts

BTW if you didn't know, cricinfo shows control %
 
daytrader said:
"Pant had a control percentage of 50% in his 31-ball 42 and, frankly, even that feels high. He could've been out at least thrice. But he took risks on a pitch that needed taking risks on, and it came off. Rizwan's control percentage was 70%" - Osman Samiuddin

Only one making content is you for the past 3 years. The 6x4 wasn't an argument but an opinion. You can hold on to it while i continue to expose you with facts

BTW if you didn't know, cricinfo shows control %
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So what? I take that as gospel now and agree with it? I view the game how I like. Just like you can view it and hold an opinion that Babar will hit 6x4 in the super over if needed.

Expose me with facts? I claim Rizwan is a crap T20 opener, in fact he isn’t an opener at all. Pakistan loses, doesn’t progress and is severely handicapped with him opening. What kind of facts will you produce to prove me wrong or expose me? 55* off 50 against Canada facts?
 
Quote from the same article which Daytrader is using to apparently expose me with ‘facts’. Looks like another own goal in the long list of them when taking me on this subject:

“Which seems like a really obvious take, but after a game in which they failed to chase 120 it hits home like a new, revelatory truth. RizBar are consistent but low-impact openers whose low impact is hidden behind any number of pointless batting records (Most runs! Quickest to so-and-so-thousand runs! Highest average! Most century stands!). And the middle order is a long list of faceless, revolving failure. Different approaches, different philosophies, old hands, newbies, returnees, reinvented hitters, allrounders, specialists, finishers, but no solution to a continuing problem.

Pakistan have made the last four and the final of the last two T20 World Cups but sift through the results and it's rarely been the batting that has gotten them there. In fact, in the two key games of those tournaments - the semi-final against Australia and the final against England - it is the batting that has cost them.”


The chances of getting that far this time are fading swiftly, but the reasons for failure will be the same as they have always been.”

Take it as gospel if you want.
 
Rana said:
So what? I take that as gospel now and agree with it? I view the game how I like. Just like you can view it and hold an opinion that Babar will hit 6x4 in the super over if needed.

Expose me with facts? I claim Rizwan is a crap T20 opener, in fact he isn’t an opener at all. Pakistan loses, doesn’t progress and is severely handicapped with him opening. What kind of facts will you produce to prove me wrong or expose me? 55* off 50 against Canada facts?
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Well you were disputing the 70% control ratio, that's what you quoted. You were proven wrong on this aspect. Just hurts your credibility as a poster but I doubt you care about that since you've devoted your life to vengeance against Rizwan
 
daytrader said:
Well you were disputing the 70% control ratio, that's what you quoted. You were proven wrong on this aspect. Just hurts your credibility as a poster but I doubt you care about that since you've devoted your life to vengeance against Rizwan
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Believe you me, nothing hurts my credibility when it comes to burying Babar and Rizwan as T20 openers. Nothing.
 
Rana said:
Quote from the same article which Daytrader is using to apparently expose me with ‘facts’. Looks like another own goal in the long list of them when taking me on this subject:

“Which seems like a really obvious take, but after a game in which they failed to chase 120 it hits home like a new, revelatory truth. RizBar are consistent but low-impact openers whose low impact is hidden behind any number of pointless batting records (Most runs! Quickest to so-and-so-thousand runs! Highest average! Most century stands!). And the middle order is a long list of faceless, revolving failure. Different approaches, different philosophies, old hands, newbies, returnees, reinvented hitters, allrounders, specialists, finishers, but no solution to a continuing problem.

Pakistan have made the last four and the final of the last two T20 World Cups but sift through the results and it's rarely been the batting that has gotten them there. In fact, in the two key games of those tournaments - the semi-final against Australia and the final against England - it is the batting that has cost them.”


The chances of getting that far this time are fading swiftly, but the reasons for failure will be the same as they have always been.”

Take it as gospel if you want.
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LOL why don't you post the whole article then. The point of the article was that Pakistan's batting is not good enough doesn't matter whether it's opening, middle order or lower order. That was Osman's point. Your argument that Rizwan was match ka mujrim gets thrown out. Own goal? You seem to be an expert at those. Imad's runs were a bonus lol
 
daytrader said:
Very good bro, hope you remember this next time you equivalate them because your gang usually bashes them together.



Not bad and not the best in the World, your lot is confused sir. Babar Sher is ranked #1 in ODIs for 3 years now




I guess you haven't seen much cricket then. Rizwan in T20Is tops the list when it comes to hitting sixes for Pakistan. Who's superior to him in Pakistan?



Which game are you referring to, we can analyze.



Salute to him for getting us our only win against India in World Cups. A true champ



It is when you're chasing 120 on a 'minefield'. He set the platform with a 93% chance to win. It takes a special effort to lose from that. Imad and the lower order did not disappoint in that regard. They only managed 1 boundary and that too came off an edge off of Imad's bat.



Did you even watch the Indian innings? PP was not easy to bat. Pant was the top scorer but he got lucky and was almost out on 3 occasions. And as the match progressed the pitch got harder. Bear in mind Pakistan batted 2nd on that pitch.
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Babar hasn't even hit a century since Nepal E Azam. Him being ranked no 1 in odi is as relevant as saud shakeel being ranked next to Steve smith in tests.

Steve smith even in his current crap conditon can score hundreds on pacy and bouncy conditons against an Indian lineup featuring bunrah, Not to mention his prime while saud struggled on a flat track where Shan could score a century.

Yet test rankings have them as comparable. No one on the planet would put saud up their but for Babar you'll create an agenda.

Same with rizwan, the fact that your using % meters and six metrics to determine such a flawed and weak t20 player is comical.

Again no point in arguing with a guy who claimed Babar can hit 6 4's in a super over. Even Babar azam doesn't believe in this notion hence him covering behind chacha and falhar and shadab during the event
 
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mominsaigol said:
Same with rizwan, the fact that your using % meters and six metrics to determine such a flawed and weak t20 player is comical.

Again no point in arguing with a guy who claimed Babar can hit 6 4's in a super over. Even Babar azam doesn't believe in this notion hence him covering behind chacha and falhar and shadab during the event
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The crux.
 
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Rana said:
The crux.
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The reason the % metric claimed 93% is because the %metric is incapable of analysing pitch, conditions or par scores.

For example Pakistan was only 2 wickets down but we're going at 4 RR and it was early into the innings.

%metric is reading 93% cause it thinks Pakistan can easily chase a below par total with 8 wickets in hand even if the current RR is lower, mainly because 8 wickets + a few boundaries here and their would mean game over.

It isn't calculating the fact that 4 RR means it'll keep decreasing cause the pitch is a hellisish pitch to bat on.
 
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mominsaigol said:
The reason the % metric claimed 93% is because the %metric is incapable of analysing pitch, conditions or par scores.

For example Pakistan was only 2 wickets down but we're going at 4 RR and it was early into the innings.

%metric is reading 93% cause it thinks Pakistan can easily chase a below par total with 8 wickets in hand even if the current RR is lower, mainly because 8 wickets + a few boundaries here and their would mean game over.

It isn't calculating the fact that 4 RR means it'll keep decreasing cause the pitch is a hellisish pitch to bat on.
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Ok even if you take all those factors into account, Pakistan should've still won with the amount of wickets we had in hand. And no the RR wouldn't necessarily have decreased if the middle lower order had used their brains. The way Naseem was striking, we could've won if he was sent in as a pinch hitter rather than Imad
 
daytrader said:
Ok even if you take all those factors into account, Pakistan should've still won with the amount of wickets we had in hand. And no the RR wouldn't necessarily have decreased if the middle lower order had used their brains. The way Naseem was striking, we could've won if he was sent in as a pinch hitter rather than Imad
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Indian middle order collapsed like a house of cards.

Naseem slogging a few doesn't mean that the middle order who's job is to chase a total down and ensure they don't get put after every 3 to 4 balls can just replicate it.

Pant who came in at 3 after kphli fell early knew his task and role. He knew it was all on him or India is doomed as the middle order cannot function under such conditons.

Meanwhile we have rizwan, Babar and pakistani fans pin the entire blame on the middle order for their incompetence.

Rizwan had the easiest batting position to play a Pant like innings but him playing such innings is nothing new.

He did this vs SA, did this numerous times in psl, has done this in the asia cup.

Even in the asia cup his fans were using the excuse of, but rizzu and chacha did their jobs, the lower order shpuld have chased 60 of 24 🤣🤣.

Infact in 2021 wc which you praise so much, Rizwan and babar left asif ali in a position where he had to chase 25 of 12 twice 🤣🤣.
 
mominsaigol said:
Naseem slogging a few doesn't mean that the middle order who's job is to chase a total down and ensure they don't get put after every 3 to 4 balls can just replicate it.
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Exactly this. You hit the nail on the head. It was the middle order's job to chase that total down after the platform was set. All they had to do was run a ball but no, our boy Imad couldn't even touch balls from Aksar Patel out of all people.

As for India's batting approach they sent Axar up the order for pinch hitting, we should've done the same with Naseem.
 
PSL has announced the list of foreign players in the silver category.

Which of these players you think would get picked by the teams?

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A list of golden dreams, ready to shine!

Who are you most excited to be picked?

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PCB Needs to find a way to increase the Salary Budget for each team to $2 million and atleast and to update the Draft Salaries.

Platinum $150-200k
Diamond $50-100k
Gold $50k
Silver $20k
Emerging $5-10k

That is no where near good or competitive enough against the ILT20, SAT20, Big Bash, Hundred, English T-20, CPL, American T-20 leagues

The Salaries need to go up as follows to entice better players

Platinum $350-400k
Diamond $150-200k
Gold $100k
Silver $75k
Emerging $20k
 
“The PCA’s lawyers have since challenged the ECB on several points, and the threat of legal action for loss of earnings lingers, should they continue to block playing in one overseas event (the PSL) while permitting a dozen others on similar annual agreements participate at the IPL simultaneously”

This is interesting. I think the PCA will win this legal battle if they actually go ahead with their threats.
 
Rana said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

Bairstow could be forced to MISS PSL despite receiving lucrative offer

RICHARD GIBSON: Jonny Bairstow's participation at this year's Pakistan Super League is in limbo as the clock ticks down to Saturday's draft.
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£200k+ offer

How’s this even legal? So the PCB declare his payment to be $150k but are actually paying him double?
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This is probably what the Franchise is offering to entice him. It is up to the Franchises if they want to go above and beyond the stated draft amounts.
 
“Platinum - 40 Overseas Players
Diamond - 87 Overseas Players
Gold - 165 Overseas Players

34 out of 40 players registered in Platinum category can be picked in Diamond/Gold if they remain unpicked in Platinum round.”

This is good. Will be interesting to know who the 6 snobs are
 
Savak said:
This is probably what the Franchise is offering to entice him. It is up to the Franchises if they want to go above and beyond the stated draft amounts.
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But the franchises disagreed to direct signings, so what exactly are they doing now? What exactly is this?
 
IMO, the PSL management should add the ECB players as registered and available to be picked.

Once they are picked, let the PCA deal with the ECB. A contract in hand means they are in a better position to deal with the ECB to otherwise remunerate their loss of earnings.
 
Take dailymail £200k with pinch of salt. They say anything without verifying
 
jnaveen1980 said:
wow Italian cricketer
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Joe Burns is Aussie. Remember him he played a few matches?

The other guy is highly rated in T20 circuit. He is on Mumbai Indians roster in their non Indian teams and will probably play IPL soon.
 
Rana said:
“Platinum - 40 Overseas Players
Diamond - 87 Overseas Players
Gold - 165 Overseas Players

34 out of 40 players registered in Platinum category can be picked in Diamond/Gold if they remain unpicked in Platinum round.”

This is good. Will be interesting to know who the 6 snobs are
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See. What did I tell you.

Many players would rather opt to pay at a lower category than take vacation.

Among big names only Smith and Kane would rather commentate on IPL or take vacations
 
FearlessRoar said:
The Local Silver Category Pool is finalised and the players are set for the PSL Draft 2025!

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Hot picks will be;

Abdul Samad
Adil Amin
Afaq Ahmed
Ahmed Bashir
Ahmed Daniyal
Akif Javed
Amad Butt
Maaz Khan
Mohammad Asghar
Sajjad Ali Jr
Sameen Gul
Sarwar Afridi
Shayan Sheikh
Syed Faridoun
Umair Masood
Umar Siddiq
Yasir Khan
Zeeshan Zameer
Mohammad Faizan
Imran Randhawa
Mohammad Mohsin
Mohammad Taha
Mohammad Imran Jr
Rizwan Hussain
 
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