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Just seeing him on the balcony, he is not happy with the Irfan situation.

Keep your heads down lads when you're getting back to the changing rooms.

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Just seeing him on the balcony, he is not happy with the Irfan situation.

Keep your heads down lads when you're getting back to the changing rooms.

Its got nothing to do with the lads. feel sorry for Azhar. If he had an attacking option now Pakistan would be favourites. The mgmt is shambles! Is there any protocol before players are sent on tour? Or do they just chuck the player on the plane and into a game? Inzamam and co must be responsible!
 
Good to see someone having little bit of passion. It's shocking to see Azhar ali laughing on the field
 
Good he is reacting like that

Which means he will do something about that and not stand for that.
 
We will either see a improved pakistan team or the end of Mr Mickley Arthur
 
He was equally apoplectic when Azhar and Aslam were batting. He knows how rubbish the side is.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mickey Arthur very frustrated & annoyed as Mohammad Irfan walked off the field with fitness issues again <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EngvPak?src=hash">#EngvPak</a> <a href="https://t.co/EtRFoNDYa9">pic.twitter.com/EtRFoNDYa9</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/771436448469876736">September 1, 2016</a></blockquote>
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He only just realised what a big mess he has gotten himself into. Absolute rubbish team
 
you replace one unfit player with another one, blame is on you coach
 
He only just realised what a big mess he has gotten himself into. Absolute rubbish team

Exactly... Its a career miss & hit for him... a shoot out... if he doesnt get a team what he wants he might leave than keep coaching these rubbish...
 
This, basically. He is the one who decided to play Irfan. What does he want him to do? Stop being cramped?

Did Mickey Arthur select Irfan.. a coach can only work with the tools he has been provided
 
I can understand his frustration as no professional cricketer should have to keep going off the field as much as Irfan does.
 
And there goes Irfan off the field once again. Mickey fuming again, quite rightly.
 
Irfan comes on to bowl, but he simply can't do it, collects his cap from the umpire and walks off.

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Anyone would fume when out of all the bowlers the selection committee could have sent, he gets straddled with the one who is injured. PCB is in a state of jahiliya.
 
This is the problem. Irfan can't bowl, the fault of loss will fall on Azhar ALi and the coach. When in reality how could you blame Azhar for this?
 
What a shame - as Irfan has bowled the best fast bowling spell for us during the whole series.
 
I can understand his frustration as no professional cricketer should have to keep going off the field as much as Irfan does.

Need to name a replacement for irfan now he is in the T20 too... if sohail khan is named as replacement and he walks like this, more comedy in
 
Surely there must be a fitness process that should be followed before a player is sent?
 
Surely there must be a fitness process that should be followed before a player is sent?

There is nothing sure in Pakistan let alone cricket.

I really feel for Mickey. He will get frustrated on a lot of occasions in his stint.
 
What Irfan had fitness issues, come on man I just tuned in, and it looks like he was bowling well!

Although I'm happy the way he's fuming!
 
Good to see his passion. We need someone like him to give the players a thorough dressing down.
 
He was given a 15 men squad with 5 fast bowlers.

Endy, usually your posts are pretty good. Here, I'm afraid you're not using your brain. It is not the coach's job to sift through who is injured or not. If you're a part of the 15-man squad, you're fit. A coach will operate under the assumption that whoever the selection committee has sent is fit (unless, he has picked up an injury on tour).
 
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Irfan's had these issues all his life, don't know why anyone is surprised.
 
FINALLY!!! We have someone who can make these kittens realize that they need to grow up and RESPECT the FLAG you are representing
 
Endy, usually your posts are pretty good. Here, I'm afraid you're not using your brain. It is not the coach's job to sift through who is injured or not. If you're a part of the 15-man squad, you're fit. A coach will operate under the assumption that whoever the selection committee has sent is fit (unless, he has picked up an injury on tour).

Irfan has been unfit for his whole career. Surely we expect Mickey Arthur to do a minimum of research about his players? Irfan has always been played despite his poor fitness due to the fact that he picks up wickets. That's also why Inzamam selected him. If Mickey doesn't like that, he shouldn't play Irfan and tell Inzamam so.
 
Irfan has been unfit for his whole career. Surely we expect Mickey Arthur to do a minimum of research about his players? Irfan has always been played despite his poor fitness due to the fact that he picks up wickets. That's also why Inzamam selected him. If Mickey doesn't like that, he shouldn't play Irfan and tell Inzamam so.

Your comment indicates to me that you have no idea what the role of a coach is. The research and whatever fitness checks there are happen at the selection committee. A coach will always work under the assumption that the 15-man squad that he has to work with is the best possible squad. Irfan wasn't just unfit, he was injured.
 
Hope Mickey Arthur does'nt take this lightly. He & Azhar Ali have been screwed by Inzimam & Co as well as Pcb. The ones responsible are not facing anybody and these chaps [Azhar, Micki Arthur] are being humiliated for no fault of theirs, who have to command the team on the ground.
 
Irfan and Asad were rushed to England in 2010

Same results then.

Irfan does not travel well - he needs time to acclimatize. Other players have been here for Ireland games etc.
 
But no professional cricket is 7ft tall. Exception is made in extraordinary circumstances.
 
Your comment indicates to me that you have no idea what the role of a coach is. The research and whatever fitness checks there are happen at the selection committee. A coach will always work under the assumption that the 15-man squad that he has to work with is the best possible squad. Irfan wasn't just unfit, he was injured.

So the coach just randomly chooses the 11 from the 15-man squad (as he doesn't have to do the research)?

Cramping up and not being able to bowl second spells has happened to Irfan often in his career.
 
Irfan and Asad were rushed to England in 2010

Same results then.

Irfan does not travel well - he needs time to acclimatize. Other players have been here for Ireland games etc.

I'm sorry matey but this has nothing to do with acclimitising. The guy could barely jog after 5 overs? The wide ball he sent down was at 75mph. Even i can bowl that speed but land it properly with a bit of movement at 21 years of age. And i play club cricket for fun on a Saturday! For a fast bowler playing International cricket to do that is appalling while being paid for and having full resources such as NCA. We're a laughing stock.
 
He was given a 15 men squad with 5 fast bowlers.

Wahab and amir have bowl in the test series too,no point playing them in a dead rubber.
Pak selectors select irfan they should have select someone who can actually bowl 10 overs.
 
I'm sorry matey but this has nothing to do with acclimitising. The guy could barely jog after 5 overs? The wide ball he sent down was at 75mph. Even i can bowl that speed but land it properly with a bit of movement at 21 years of age. And i play club cricket for fun on a Saturday! For a fast bowler playing International cricket to do that is appalling while being paid for and having full resources such as NCA. We're a laughing stock.

no 'matey'

The same happened in 2010.

And I run 3k every other day in +35c so I do understand what fitness means
 
I actually feel sorry for Irfan because he shows a lot of heart and passion.

But unfortunately he's very fragile and sometimes no matter how much time you put in the gym regarding fitness there is nothing you can do because of the way you are built.

Let's not forget how late he started cricket into domestic - another shambles regarding the grass roots with Pak cricket.

End of the day the blame goes to the PCB who gave the green light to England - that meant he should have been fit to bowl 10 overs in a match.

Well he's not fit and you can understand the coaches frustrations. Certainly I was as a fan.
 
You rest your mains bowlers in meaningless matches especially if there are important series ahead.
This is called professional coaching it's not like "i don't want to be whitewashed and want brownie point who care about the players" coaching.
 
Wahab and amir have bowl in the test series too,no point playing them in a dead rubber.
Pak selectors select irfan they should have select someone who can actually bowl 10 overs.

If he doesn't care enough about dead rubber to play his best team then why is he getting angry?
 
Irfan has played only one game since April and that was a T20 game. The selection just doesn't make sense.
 
If he doesn't care enough about dead rubber to play his best team then why is he getting angry?

Because you give him a bowler who can't bowl 10 overs while he was supposed to be a international player.
Off course dead rubber are lesser games but it doesn't mean players can do what they want.
 
The only mugs here are Inzamam and Mickey Arthur who went with Irfan and had any expectation of him lasting a match.

Do they live under a rock to not know his injury record and how he is made of glass. Do they expect that as he gets older somehow things will work inverse with him and he will magically get fitter.

The fact is that Mohammad irfan is a con artist masquerading as a front line bowler who has been taking Pakistan fans and several Pakistan team managements for a ride for half a decade now
 
Nasir Hussain said, cant blame the coach, cant blame the captain, and cant even blame the bowler himself. Unfit bowler is the product of the system which has not given importance to the fitness of its players. It was something along those lines, and he is right.
 
Your post is very bizarre. Nasser on air said that irfan last bowled in a competitive match in April. That was a t20 so four overs in about 4 months and then he's expected to get on a plane halfway around the world and bowl in a competitive match against one of the fittest and battle hardened outfits in world cricket. You have to be fair when commenting. Mickey is one of the best coaches in the world and certainly not a tool. The selectors have put the team in this situation and they are culpable and it's neither mickey or azhars fault. You can only go with the squad that has been selected.

We have way too many left armers.

Yeah because Irfan put a gun on Mickey's head to play him over the 4 fast bowlers and one spinner in the squad.
 
Yeah because Irfan put a gun on Mickey's head to play him over the 4 fast bowlers and one spinner in the squad.

how is Arthur supposed to know irfan cant last 50 overs? Yes he does have history but surely its selectors job to make sure they are sending someone who is fit to last a full 50 overs
 
how is Arthur supposed to know irfan cant last 50 overs? Yes he does have history but surely its selectors job to make sure they are sending someone who is fit to last a full 50 overs

Irfan is known for two things: being tall and getting injured. If Mickey played Irfan without even knowing that then he hasn't done the homework required of a coach.
 
I was always scared we were going to give Dav Whatmore a heartattack when he was our coach.
 
Yeah because Irfan put a gun on Mickey's head to play him over the 4 fast bowlers and one spinner in the squad.

What is that supposed to mean?? The coach is selecting the 11 from the squad. He's not there to second guess fitness of players because being fit is one thing, being match fit is completed another. Irfan only had cramps nothing serious but certainly the squad could have been better selected. Irfan and gul were the best bowlers tonight and both have returned after a long layoff and not entirely match fit.
 
The only mugs here are Inzamam and Mickey Arthur who went with Irfan and had any expectation of him lasting a match.

Do they live under a rock to not know his injury record and how he is made of glass. Do they expect that as he gets older somehow things will work inverse with him and he will magically get fitter.

The fact is that Mohammad irfan is a con artist masquerading as a front line bowler who has been taking Pakistan fans and several Pakistan team managements for a ride for half a decade now

True.

:)))

What's happening to ppers here? or the media? It's MICKEY & management who called for Irfan!! And requested selectors to send him.

So, they're to be blamed.

If he's abusing someone or whatever - he should direct it at himself.
 
[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] don't you think his frustration was directed towards the selectors.

Like come on, all the guy asked was for fit fast bowler to join up with the squad and what they send him is a bowler who couldn't walk after his initial spell of 6 overs.

Fair enough Micky has only just joined up with the team and doesn't know players fitness levels, but surely the selectors should have identified that Irfan was never the right man to send as replacement especially as Irfan was dropped from the team initially for fitness issues.

After all the problems the ODI team is having, the last thing Micky expected was for the selectors to send a half fit bowler after he made it clear the bowlers they already had on the tour were not fit enough.
 
Irfan and Asad were rushed to England in 2010

Same results then.

Irfan does not travel well - he needs time to acclimatize. Other players have been here for Ireland games etc.

But didn't Irfan arrive 4 days ago or so? That's enough time? Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not sure, but I would have thought PCB would have got him there a few days ago (or at least they should have)

In 2010 didn't Irfan pretty much get there and had to play next day, didn't he say he had jet lag or something. But that wouldn't have been a issue over a few days.

It's not just this incident though which is why people are frustrated (dunno about Mickey). It happens an awful lot in games in the past. However good you are, you need to be fit to last the entire match, and with Irfan it seems this is a struggle every time he plays in ODIs.
 
[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] don't you think his frustration was directed towards the selectors.

Like come on, all the guy asked was for fit fast bowler to join up with the squad and what they send him is a bowler who couldn't walk after his initial spell of 6 overs.

Fair enough Micky has only just joined up with the team and doesn't know players fitness levels, but surely the selectors should have identified that Irfan was never the right man to send as replacement especially as Irfan was dropped from the team initially for fitness issues.

After all the problems the ODI team is having, the last thing Micky expected was for the selectors to send a half fit bowler after he made it clear the bowlers they already had on the tour were not fit enough.

I wonder if it was Mickey's suggestion or Azhar. Wasn't Azhar the person who first recommended him in domestic?
 
Inzi needs to take responsibility for this. 2 appaling decisions on tour so far. First was Iftikhar selection, now this Irfan selection. Might as well have sent Mir Hamza or Zia Ul Haq if they wanted to send a bowler. Irfan is any way tried and tested and also with the series already lost was no point in risking him. These 2 decisions really have been poor from the big guy.
 
I've got very mixed feelings.

I partially accept what [MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] writes about Mohammad Irfan's perpetual unfitness.

But the bottom line is that on flat, grassless wickets your army of short (less than 6'4) fast bowlers is getting massacred. Who else is there apart from Irfan?

I have written elsewhere that I think that at the age of 34 there is one specific task that you need Mohammad Irfan for above all others.

There is one single Test, the Melbourne Test, that you have to play on a wicket which will offer nothing to bowlers shorter than 6'4 and slower than 140K.

All the usual suspects will fail there.

You need to find a way to:

1. Ensure that Mohammad Irfan is fit enough by December 26th to bowl three 4 over spells in a day, with every ball faster than 140K. And he has to be able to do that on 3 days out of 5.

2. Ensure that Mohammad Irfan arrives there early enough not to have a sore back or neck or anything else by the time that December 26th comes around.

It's pointless playing him in meaningless bilateral ODIs. Build everything around having him fit enough to deliver on that one, final task for his country. The MCG Test.
 
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

Isnt the MCG wkt a drop-in pitch these days ? or am I confusing it with some other venue ?
 
The only mugs here are Inzamam and Mickey Arthur who went with Irfan and had any expectation of him lasting a match.

Do they live under a rock to not know his injury record and how he is made of glass. Do they expect that as he gets older somehow things will work inverse with him and he will magically get fitter.

The fact is that Mohammad irfan is a con artist masquerading as a front line bowler who has been taking Pakistan fans and several Pakistan team managements for a ride for half a decade now

Exactly. But honestly I'm not surprised, it all most feels like the coach and selection committee have been blind for the last 15 years.
 
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

Isnt the MCG wkt a drop-in pitch these days ? or am I confusing it with some other venue ?

Yes, they almost all are in Australia now, and that's the problem.

If you look at the red ball Tests in Australia in the last two seasons, these are the First Innings scores that teams (apart from the West Indies) made:

2014-15
Adelaide: 517 and 444
Brisbane: 408 and 555
MCG: 530 and 465
SCG: 572-7d and 475

2015-16
Brisbane: 556-4d and 317
Perth: 559-9d and 624
Hobart: 583-4d
MCG: 551-3d
SCG: 176-2d

Enormous scores are being made on the drop-in pitches in Australia, due to the combination of slower than usual grassless pitches and the red Kookaburra ball with its inert seam and tendency to go soft after 20 overs.

I was at the Gabba Test between Australia and New Zealand ten months ago. The most notable feature was that Trent Boult and Doug Bracewell were too short to get anything out of the pitch, whereas Josh Hazlewood was tall enough to get disconcerting bounce.

The only Pakistan bowlers tall enough and quick enough to bowl such a "heavy ball" are Wahab Riaz (who is borderline too short), Umar Gul (again borderline for height) and Ehsan Adil and Mohammad Irfan who both have suspect stamina.

Trent Boult is a highly skillful bowler, and the fact that he had bowling figures in Australia with the red ball of:

29-3-127-1
8-0-61-1
26-2-123-2
19-2-77-2

.....makes me strongly suspect that bowlers like Mohammad Amir cannot succeed this summer, apart from in the pink ball Test.
 
Yes, they almost all are in Australia now, and that's the problem.

If you look at the red ball Tests in Australia in the last two seasons, these are the First Innings scores that teams (apart from the West Indies) made:

2014-15
Adelaide: 517 and 444
Brisbane: 408 and 555
MCG: 530 and 465
SCG: 572-7d and 475

2015-16
Brisbane: 556-4d and 317
Perth: 559-9d and 624
Hobart: 583-4d
MCG: 551-3d
SCG: 176-2d

Enormous scores are being made on the drop-in pitches in Australia, due to the combination of slower than usual grassless pitches and the red Kookaburra ball with its inert seam and tendency to go soft after 20 overs.

I was at the Gabba Test between Australia and New Zealand ten months ago. The most notable feature was that Trent Boult and Doug Bracewell were too short to get anything out of the pitch, whereas Josh Hazlewood was tall enough to get disconcerting bounce.

The only Pakistan bowlers tall enough and quick enough to bowl such a "heavy ball" are Wahab Riaz (who is borderline too short), Umar Gul (again borderline for height) and Ehsan Adil and Mohammad Irfan who both have suspect stamina.

Trent Boult is a highly skillful bowler, and the fact that he had bowling figures in Australia with the red ball of:

29-3-127-1
8-0-61-1
26-2-123-2
19-2-77-2

.....makes me strongly suspect that bowlers like Mohammad Amir cannot succeed this summer, apart from in the pink ball Test.

Irfan isn't going to last a spell in Test cricket, be it the MCG or the Gabba.
 
Beat all of them with a stick Mickey bhai starting with huff and puff Wahab
 
Taking the coach of Pakistan is always a super hit or you will be at the bottom of the pit. Probably he has realized what mess he himself got into and why others don't want job of coaching Pakistan. It can destroy a resume and can become a big negative impact.

Till now, he failed miserably. In test, Pakistan is strong without even a coach.

0 - 4 mickey as if now.
 
Said it before, this dude cant even bowl 4 overs and he was sent to England for ODI games, lol.
 
Started and ended in England?

That was also in his 6th over



Now, this doesn't look good. Irfan is down and he's stretching his left leg. The physio is out now too, this looks like cramps. Also, we've just seen a snicko replay and it seemed to suggest that there was a touch on that shout for caught behind in Ajmal's last over, so Trott's lucky to be there still.

If it is just cramp that's troubling Irfan they must be pretty bad, as he's yet to get up again. Well, he's up now, but sadly he's being escorted off the field by the team physio. That's a shame. He's gesturing towards his calf, this may be more than cramp.
 
Taking the coach of Pakistan is always a super hit or you will be at the bottom of the pit. Probably he has realized what mess he himself got into and why others don't want job of coaching Pakistan. It can destroy a resume and can become a big negative impact.

Till now, he failed miserably. In test, Pakistan is strong without even a coach.

0 - 4 mickey as if now.

its nt like others didnt want it
 
its nt like others didnt want it

Compare it to other boards. It is countable in fingers.

It is just basic logic. With the domestic setup, senior culture, and outside interference will always hinder the job of a coach in PCB. Even if you see a a remedy, you may not go ahead due to factors not related to cricket.

Then comes results like these. But when your tenure is over, in the next interview, it'll reflect in the resume. The next board won't consider what difficulties you faced but what were your results were.

Mickey probably took this job because he had something to prove after the disaster in his last position.

It is either a do or die for him.
 
Happy tat he's doing tat..1st time I hav seen a Pakistani coach shouting at t players...

It more looks like a football manager shouting..Haha

Him being lik dis..either we'll see good results....or bad result for Mickey himself
 
Compare it to other boards. It is countable in fingers.

It is just basic logic. With the domestic setup, senior culture, and outside interference will always hinder the job of a coach in PCB. Even if you see a a remedy, you may not go ahead due to factors not related to cricket.

Then comes results like these. But when your tenure is over, in the next interview, it'll reflect in the resume. The next board won't consider what difficulties you faced but what were your results were.

Mickey probably took this job because he had something to prove after the disaster in his last position.

It is either a do or die for him.
This actually makes a lot of sense.

Not sure what kindve person mickey is. Is he gonna stick around for long for his resume to get damaged to improve pakistans team, or is he going to resign early and give up on the team.

Hard to judge whatmore with this because he had 2 chuckers at his disposal, so we never know if whatmore would have resigned early if 2 cheats weren't in the team, Pakistan would have easily replicated these performances, worse in tests as Ajmal was key in test wins.
 
I asked Mickey at the press conference about Irfan.

He said it was very frustrating what had happened and also that as far as he was aware Irfan had played some T20 matches and 50 over matches recently.

The fact though is that he had only played 1 T20 match. No idea where the 50 over matches were allegedly played and for whom.
 
Taking the coach of Pakistan is always a super hit or you will be at the bottom of the pit. Probably he has realized what mess he himself got into and why others don't want job of coaching Pakistan. It can destroy a resume and can become a big negative impact.

Till now, he failed miserably. In test, Pakistan is strong without even a coach.

0 - 4 mickey as if now.

The bias against Pakistan comes clearly from your posts. Do you even try and hide it?

Taking the job of coaching Pakistan is not a dishonor. It may be how you look at in India but the opportunity to coach Pakistan is not looked down upon by anyone.

There are security issues and maybe the money may not be top notch but thats about it. No one's resume is destroyed due to that.

Dont post such rubbish here.
 
This actually makes a lot of sense.

Not sure what kindve person mickey is. Is he gonna stick around for long for his resume to get damaged to improve pakistans team, or is he going to resign early and give up on the team.

Hard to judge whatmore with this because he had 2 chuckers at his disposal, so we never know if whatmore would have resigned early if 2 cheats weren't in the team, Pakistan would have easily replicated these performances, worse in tests as Ajmal was key in test wins.

Saeed Ajmal has been cleared by the ICC and Hafeez will undergo a test soon

Once again, this style of posting shows deep seated bias against Pakistan and is absolutely deplorable.
 
Saeed Ajmal has been cleared by the ICC and Hafeez will undergo a test soon

Once again, this style of posting shows deep seated bias against Pakistan and is absolutely deplorable.
Yes Ajmal was cleared in the past, but that actually shows how incompetent the system in place was for the rule.

Ajmal has not been the same bowler anymore after he cleaned up his action, this tells a lot, had he been bowling with this action i doubt he would have been as effective as he was going over the limit.

Hafeez is marginal, i may be hard on him but chucking is chucking, if he can retain figures of 45 runs or less off his 10 overs with his remodelled action this time around then ill eat my words.

I am a Pakistani fan but i prefer having players with clean actions.
 
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