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Mohammad Hafeez was earlier spotted in the nets at Worcester working alongside Pakistan bowling coach Mushtaq Ahmed and Carl Crowe who has previously worked with West Indies spinner Sunil Narine.

Hafeez was rested for the match at Worcestershire alongside Younis Khan, Sarfraz Ahmed, Yasir Shah, Misbah-ul-Haq and Mohammad Amir and had a long session with Mushtaq and Crowe.

Video footage of Hafeez's action was being taken and Crowe could be seen making several suggestions to Hafeez on a regular basis.

Crowe was drafted in by the PCB to help Hafeez ahead of his bowling test which will take place at Loughborough in the coming days.

As yet, a date has not been set for Hafeez's re-test and it seems that if he does pass the bowling test then he will more than likely be available for the limited overs part of the tour of England.

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I reckon with a legal action he can still be effective. Let's not forget he won't be in the team for his bowling alone, but as an all rounder. Ajmal was rubbish because his only role was a spinner and to take wickets which resulted in his below average performances. As Hafeez is only used as a partnership breaker or just someone to slow down the run rate to add pressure, I reckon he can still be effective. If he is able to bowl it will add brilliant balance to our awful ODI and T20 teams
 
^ We all know he is not going to be effective, if he pass his bowling test so we will be watching him for next 2-3 years, terrible.

His performances are below average with the bat, and we need a pure AR, who can bat and bowl in Test matches.

If we keep investing in Hafeez, then i don't think in near future we will be having a good AR.

And surely Hafeez is not the solution.
 
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#GreenRoars said:
^ We all know he is not going to be effective, if he pass his bowling test so we will be watching him for next 2-3 years, terrible.

His performances are below average with the bat, and we need a pure AR, who can bat and bowl in Test matches.

If we keep investing in Hafeez, then i don't think in near future we will be having a good AR.

And surely Hafeez is not the solution.
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In the current line up of 6-1-4 with our weak tail, Hafeez has to sort his bowling out. Because of our weak tail our number 6 bat has to be like Shafiq (ie a proper player)

In the near future (NZ tour) our team from 3-6 will be picked from players like Babar,Azhar, YK,Misbah, Shafiq, Haris. If you assume openers are specialist (so won't be able to bowl) that only leaves Hafeez who will be the sombody that will bat in the top 6 who we can rely on for 15- 4- 35-1

Nobody else can do that, maybe Fawad Alam but he has stopped bowling like he used to but he will not get in ahead of the above. We can not start playing Yamin and Amad at 6 and 8 when we have a tour of Aus around the corner. It is not like they have been banging the door down for selection.

He has to make it work.
 
^ Also I don't think Hafeez batting will be a major issue in Aus like in England, he will enjoy the bounce, rather it is the sideways movement he has issues with
 
Abdullah said:
^ Also I don't think Hafeez batting will be a major issue in Aus like in England, he will enjoy the bounce, rather it is the sideways movement he has issues with
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It will be no different in Australia. The only place he might succeed in is NZ, and that depends on overcast.
 
Hafeez worked with Mushy for about an hr yesterday and the action was being filmed. I commented to one of support staff that the action he had used at the start of the session was going to get cleared.
 
in before regular PP experts claim "Carl Crowe is ripping PCB off because he already knows Hafeez will not be the same bowler after a remodeled action" :))
 
Saj said:
Mohammad Hafeez was earlier spotted in the nets at Worcester working alongside Pakistan bowling coach Mushtaq Ahmed and Carl Crowe who has previously worked with West Indies spinner Sunil Narine.

Hafeez was rested for the match at Worcestershire alongside Younis Khan, Sarfraz Ahmed, Yasir Shah, Misbah-ul-Haq and Mohammad Amir and had a long session with Mushtaq and Crowe.

Video footage of Hafeez's action was being taken and Crowe could be seen making several suggestions to Hafeez on a regular basis.

Crowe was drafted in by the PCB to help Hafeez ahead of his bowling test which will take place at Loughborough in the coming days.

As yet, a date has not been set for Hafeez's re-test and it seems that if he does pass the bowling test then he will more than likely be available for the limited overs part of the tour of England.
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Hopefully he fails the tests, Sorry to sound harsh but the last thing pakistan needs is Hafeez being given another free ride in the team because he can bowl again as a so called all rounder, His batting on its own has not been good enough on this tour and his main focus should be on that and not trying to bowl again.
 
Bewal Express said:
Hafeez worked with Mushy for about an hr yesterday and the action was being filmed. I commented to one of support staff that the action he had used at the start of the session was going to get cleared.
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Bowling legally isn't the problem because he's been cleared before, it's a matter of whether he resorts back to throwing if he's unable to bowl effectively.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Azhar Ali "no date has been set yet for Mohammad Hafeez's re-test but he's working hard on his bowling & we hope he can bowl soon" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/759078815054368768">July 29, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Hafeez has blotted his copy book with his trademark display of limited batting this tour. Pakistan needs to find 5 bowlers - one being an all rounder. If hafeez is not that all-rounder (clearly he is not good enough to play as a batsman), then we need to bench him until we find one.

I do understand though, that Misbah might want to give him one more chance to score big. After all Pakistan has been winning with 4 bowlers. And he is backing his batting line up to put England under pressure.
 
Some people on this site are never happy.

If pcb did not help him out and just left him and dropped him, people would had said how pcb used hiM and just left him behind.

Pcb are suppose to help hafeez, because he is an asset for them, and yes they should invest money in him.
 
Major said:
Some people on this site are never happy.

If pcb did not help him out and just left him and dropped him, people would had said how pcb used hiM and just left him behind.

Pcb are suppose to help hafeez, because he is an asset for them, and yes they should invest money in him.
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He is not an asset anymore, his new bowling action won't be effective, plus he is already 35, should pave way for Nawaz or Yamin.
 
Hafeez the all rounder is the most important limited overs cricketer in Pakistan. This guys did a good job with Narine so this is excellent from the PCB. The difference Hafeez will make to the balance of the side even if he is half as effective witht he ball will be a lot. In ODIs this will mean we can play someone like Aamer Yamin at 8.
 
#GreenRoars said:
^ We all know he is not going to be effective, if he pass his bowling test so we will be watching him for next 2-3 years, terrible.

His performances are below average with the bat, and we need a pure AR, who can bat and bowl in Test matches.

If we keep investing in Hafeez, then i don't think in near future we will be having a good AR.

And surely Hafeez is not the solution.
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I agree, and he is already 35.
 
Abdullah said:
In the current line up of 6-1-4 with our weak tail, Hafeez has to sort his bowling out. Because of our weak tail our number 6 bat has to be like Shafiq (ie a proper player)

In the near future (NZ tour) our team from 3-6 will be picked from players like Babar,Azhar, YK,Misbah, Shafiq, Haris. If you assume openers are specialist (so won't be able to bowl) that only leaves Hafeez who will be the sombody that will bat in the top 6 who we can rely on for 15- 4- 35-1

Nobody else can do that, maybe Fawad Alam but he has stopped bowling like he used to but he will not get in ahead of the above. We can not start playing Yamin and Amad at 6 and 8 when we have a tour of Aus around the corner. It is not like they have been banging the door down for selection.

He has to make it work.
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Nawaz > Hafeez , need to invest in Nawaz.

And do you even realize he is 35, not 25.
 
Time to get rid of Hafeez from the test team and bring in a new and young A/R. I hope Inzi the great makes it happen.
 
sshakir411 said:
in before regular PP experts claim "Carl Crowe is ripping PCB off because he already knows Hafeez will not be the same bowler after a remodeled action" :))
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I'm quite confident that Hafeez will be good with his new action, simply because he wasn't a big chucker like Ajmal.

He was pretty much borderline and will not have to change his action much.

Another example is Narine who has remodeled his action successfulty.

Ajmal was a javelin thrower and at his age, remodeling his action was never going to work.
 
Mamoon said:
I'm quite confident that Hafeez will be good with his new action, simply because he wasn't a big chucker like Ajmal.

He was pretty much borderline and will not have to change his action much.

Another example is Narine who has remodeled his action successfulty.

Ajmal was a javelin thrower and at his age, remodeling his action was never going to work.
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i wasn't taking a direct dig at you by any means...there are more on this forum who perhaps cannot come up with a genuine point of view and like to peddle what they have heard from others (in this case maybe you).

I think Hafeez might end up losing some pace on the ball which could effect his bowling and rpo, but only time can tell how much.
 
sshakir411 said:
i wasn't taking a direct dig at you by any means...there are more on this forum who perhaps cannot come up with a genuine point of view and like to peddle what they have heard from others (in this case maybe you).

I think Hafeez might end up losing some pace on the ball which could effect his bowling and rpo, but only time can tell how much.
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It's fine if you took a dig or not, I am okay with it either way.

Hafeez was never a wicket-taker, as long as he keeps it tight, he will do fine.
 
aliasad1998 said:
Hafeez the all rounder is the most important limited overs cricketer in Pakistan. This guys did a good job with Narine so this is excellent from the PCB. The difference Hafeez will make to the balance of the side even if he is half as effective witht he ball will be a lot. In ODIs this will mean we can play someone like Aamer Yamin at 8.
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Yamin is needed at 5 or 6 bro! Butt, Hasan Ali, Imad Wasim, Zafar Gohar, they are btter options at 8.
 
Hasan123 said:
Yamin is needed at 5 or 6 bro! Butt, Hasan Ali, Imad Wasim, Zafar Gohar, they are btter options at 8.
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Is Yamin a better batsman that Brad Haddin who batted at 8 for Australia in the world cup? He is capable of batting at 6 but if you have such good batsman even down the order thats a sign of a very strong side.
 
aliasad1998 said:
Is Yamin a better batsman that Brad Haddin who batted at 8 for Australia in the world cup? He is capable of batting at 6 but if you have such good batsman even down the order thats a sign of a very strong side.
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Yes that's true but he is more of a batsmen than a bowler. If you bat him at 8 he will just turn into a slogger. He can play proper shots and rotate strike. So why not play to his strengths?
 
Hasan123 said:
Yes that's true but he is more of a batsmen than a bowler. If you bat him at 8 he will just turn into a slogger. He can play proper shots and rotate strike. So why not play to his strengths?
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Yamin at 8 would be like Anwar at 8, but with better batting.

Don't think we should play a batting all-rounder at 8. Need someone who is capable of delivering 8-10 good overs on most days. Not sure if Yamin can do that.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Yamin at 8 would be like Anwar at 8, but with better batting.

Don't think we should play a batting all-rounder at 8. Need someone who is capable of delivering 8-10 good overs on most days. Not sure if Yamin can do that.
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Batting all rounder at 6 or 7

Bowling all rounders 8/9.

Yamin is a proper batter, his bowling needs more development and is useful in favourable conditions atm.
 
Saj said:
why?
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Because as long as his borderline bowling keeps him in the team, you carry a batsman who isn't good enough.

I sincerely believe that if you had started to overhaul your batting two years ago you could have won all three away Test series this year.

It has been obvious for a long time that Masood, Hafeez and Younis would fail outside Asia. You could have brought in Babar Azam 18 months ago and Jaahid Ali now.

England, Australia and NZ are there for the taking, while they too carry passengers.
 
Hasan123 said:
Yamin is needed at 5 or 6 bro! Butt, Hasan Ali, Imad Wasim, Zafar Gohar, they are btter options at 8.
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Absolutely.

Hasan Ali or Amad Butt can replace one of the bowlers.

Aamer Yamin needs to replace a batsman, and bowl a bit.

And given that four of the top six haven't reached fifty in 16 innings between them, right now would be a good time.
 
Junaids said:
Absolutely.

Hasan Ali or Amad Butt can replace one of the bowlers.

Aamer Yamin needs to replace a batsman, and bowl a bit.

And given that four of the top six haven't reached fifty in 16 innings between them, right now would be a good time.
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Yes but my quote was referring to him playing in LOI formats :)
 
Mamoon said:
I'm quite confident that Hafeez will be good with his new action, simply because he wasn't a big chucker like Ajmal.

He was pretty much borderline and will not have to change his action much.

Another example is Narine who has remodeled his action successfulty.

Ajmal was a javelin thrower and at his age, remodeling his action was never going to work.
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Yes Hafeez appears to have an analytical mind and should have the ability to change his action unlike other Pak players like Ajmal.

Hafeez's bowling is needed in ODI's and T20. Without him being unable to bowl we have gone from bad to worse.
 
#GreenRoars said:
^ We all know he is not going to be effective, if he pass his bowling test so we will be watching him for next 2-3 years, terrible.

His performances are below average with the bat, and we need a pure AR, who can bat and bowl in Test matches.

If we keep investing in Hafeez, then i don't think in near future we will be having a good AR.

And surely Hafeez is not the solution.
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We somehow have to find a way to win at least one more test in England. Hafeez is desperately needed. PCB has to take a chance.


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Any updates on this? When is the bowling test?


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gazza619 said:
Any updates on this? When is the bowling test?


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Well, geographically Birmingham is the closest he'll be to Loughborough (testing center location). So he should have done it during this break.
 
kingusama92 said:
Well, geographically Birmingham is the closest he'll be to Loughborough (testing center location). So he should have done it during this break.
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He clearly wasnt ready for the action to be re-tested. I can't believe, he had one whole year. Shows how unprofessional some of these chaps can be.


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Interviewed Hafeez yesterday.

Watch this space for updates.
 
Saj said:
Interviewed Hafeez yesterday.

Watch this space for updates.
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Oh Bhai, this guy should be no where near the team, his skills are limited and we are know what he will say in the interview...

He hasnt improved one bit over the last few years, still fishes outside off, and the less he talks about how he is trying hard, the better for us
 
Well, when is he going for his re-test?

Thought they said he'd try and get it cleared before the LOI leg of the tour?

Won't provide the same value to the team if he cannot bowl.
 
Hafeez should be rested from this series and chances should be given to younger players. He shouldn't rush his bowling test, he should practice as long as possible and only give the test when 100% ready.
 
AlphaFighter said:
Hafeez should be rested from this series and chances should be given to younger players. He shouldn't rush his bowling test, he should practice as long as possible and only give the test when 100% ready.
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Why rest him bhai?

He along with Babar has been our best ODI batsman in recent times, and we need him for a high-profile series such as the upcoming one.

msb314 said:
bump!

No need my friend! :D
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Yes, fortunately we were able to manage. :afridi
 
I think he would plan his bowling test in England as soon as the ODI series is completed. There is a two weeks gap between England and WI series and he can work in his bowling to clear just in time for WI series.
 
has he taken the test yet? his bowling offers us so much more balance and options!!
 
No he has not taken the test. Would take the test after england series. It is said that the new action has worked out well with quite nice dip in the off spin plus a straighter one. Lets see keeping fingers crossed ..
 
If his bowling is good as it was before the ban then he should play till the World cup.
 
He should retire. We need a batsman not a bowler. For latter we have better options.
 
IIRC - pretty sure i played this guy in Leicester back in 2008 - IIRC again, i got him out, then he bowled me through the gate in return :yk2
 
Which Pakistani has averaged 47 with the bat and scored 6 odi hundreds in the last 3 years??!!
 
His bowling may come in handy in ODIs but in tests he is useless outside Asia.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pakistan set to be without Hafeez's bowling for limited overs series vs Ireland & England.Still no date set for his bowling re-test <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/765592001517613058">August 16, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Abdul said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pakistan set to be without Hafeez's bowling for limited overs series vs Ireland & England.Still no date set for his bowling re-test <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/765592001517613058">August 16, 2016</a></blockquote>
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haha hafeez is just playing with Pcb here.
he knows that he gonna fail that anyway so he keep delaying it.
the sooner pcb kick out this joker is the better.. he is just blocking the much deserve players like yamin or im sure there is many in pak A team who can replace this wannabe allrounder who is self proclaim good in"ALL"facets of the game.
 
Hafeez playing his cards well.

Knows that while his position in Tests is in jeopardy, his ODI spot is very much safe as a pure batsman.

However, once he starts failing as an ODI batsman, he'll go give his test, so that there's another reason to retain him.

Smart, but not good for Pakistan.
 
SOURCES: Mohammad Hafeez left frustrated by delayed test on bowling action

Pakistan have been crying out for an all-rounder ever since Hafeez was banned from bowling for an illegal action in 2015 and it was expected that upon the lifting of his 12 month suspension that he would go through immediate procedures to enable a swift return with the ball.

According to a source within the Pakistan camp, Hafeez has not been given sufficient time to rectify his action during the side’s tour of England.

This is despite the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) hiring Carl Crowe to aid remedial work with Hafeez for a period of just two days and claims from management that he would undergo remedial work and then be re-tested at the Loughborough inbetween the second and third Tests.

Hafeez has also not been able to get the sufficient help from spin bowling coach Mushtaq Ahmad, according to the source.

“Crowe only worked for two days with Hafeez for remedial work which the player felt wasn’t enough to get him to a level from where he can clear the bowling Test,” the source told Sport360.

“The team management further kept him engaged with the team even when he got some time to work in the fourth. Hafeez wanted to work on his bowling action but instead he was told by the management to help others in carrying drinks.

“There were five other players who could have done the job but Hafeez was still told to carry things while sitting outside and vital time was wasted.”

The source added that the player has been left unhappy with the treatment of both the team management and PCB, citing a perceived lack of effort in aiding his swift return to bowling.

“Hafeez will now only give bowling test when he will be sure that there would be no problem in clearing the test and he won’t take risks before that since it’s about his career,” the source explained.

http://sport360.com/article/cricket...d-by-delayed-remedial-work-on-bowling-action/
 
Drinks business is a bit silly. We have a world cup to qualify for so once he was not selected he should have basically been in the nets for 5 days with crowe
 
I would ask the PCB and Hafeez - where where they for the last year? why do they have to scramble at the last minute?

Poor management by PCB but also lack of motivation from Hafeez too.
 
Square Drive said:
Hafeez playing his cards well.

Knows that while his position in Tests is in jeopardy, his ODI spot is very much safe as a pure batsman.

However, once he starts failing as an ODI batsman, he'll go give his test, so that there's another reason to retain him.

Smart, but not good for Pakistan.
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Yeah typical Hafeez, he's waiting to see if he doesn't perform then a test will be exactly what will be needed to keep his place in the international team.

Also notice how Hafeez plays the media card as soon as he's in trouble form wise, the interviews with sky before the 3rd test thinking it will save him from the chop.
 
Hafeez probably the reason why Pakistan didn't win the england series 3-1.

His performance with his countless drop catches cost us the match in the end, and we all knew he was going to flop with the bat in england. And like he will in Australia and probably try to avoid playing that tour like WC15
 
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Pakistan have been crying out for an all-rounder ever since Hafeez was banned from bowling for an illegal action in 2015 and it was expected that upon the lifting of his 12 month suspension that he would go through immediate procedures to enable a swift return with the ball.

According to a source within the Pakistan camp, Hafeez has not been given sufficient time to rectify his action during the side’s tour of England.

This is despite the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) hiring Carl Crowe to aid remedial work with Hafeez for a period of just two days and claims from management that he would undergo remedial work and then be re-tested at the Loughborough inbetween the second and third Tests.

Hafeez has also not been able to get the sufficient help from spin bowling coach Mushtaq Ahmad, according to the source.

“Crowe only worked for two days with Hafeez for remedial work which the player felt wasn’t enough to get him to a level from where he can clear the bowling Test,” the source told Sport360.

“The team management further kept him engaged with the team even when he got some time to work in the fourth. Hafeez wanted to work on his bowling action but instead he was told by the management to help others in carrying drinks.

“There were five other players who could have done the job but Hafeez was still told to carry things while sitting outside and vital time was wasted.”

The source added that the player has been left unhappy with the treatment of both the team management and PCB, citing a perceived lack of effort in aiding his swift return to bowling.

“Hafeez will now only give bowling test when he will be sure that there would be no problem in clearing the test and he won’t take risks before that since it’s about his career,” the source explained.

http://sport360.com/article/cricket...d-by-delayed-remedial-work-on-bowling-action/
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OK, if this is true, then very poor from the PCB. Brainless.
 
May be he is not keen anymore as Arthur said that he was looking at him as a batsman and will be judged on batting.
 
If pakistan are so instant on wasting money on hafeez why not get his batting retested instead of his bowling, he seems to fail the batting test all the time! his primary job!
 
i'm almost certain that this "source" is no other than Hafeez himself. Blaming others for his downfall already. Kick this POS out from the country i'd say let alone from the cricket team.
 
Square Drive said:
If I was him, I'd be heading to get my action tested ASAP.

Improves my chance of being in the team considerably.
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He knows we need him so will bide his time.
He will score runs in odis and then he will go pass the test after so he can say to Arthur "u need me in tests, that was just a rough few tests "
If he could bowl now and he did ok overall in series arthur may just look ato him as a odi specialist.
Subtle subtle stuff
 
The sauce who refused to tell us its flavour said hafeez''s chachas bhanjas cousin said hafeez wasn't happy.

Why why why do you people believe this maaja gaama journalism?? Why??
 
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