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[PICTURES] Prostrating oneself or doing sajda after getting to milestones

Aamer Jamal after taking a fifer against Australia in the his debut test match. Wonderful spell of bowling followed by a Sajda (THANKING ALLAH)

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Bashir doing this after his 5fer vs India in the 4th Test

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Khurram Shahzad is doing Sajda after taking his maiden 5-wicket haul against Bangaldesh in the 2nd test match.

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The ill-focus on this activity could've been better served instead.

Daari nahi to khilari nahin.

What a hogwash!
 
When you take a fifer and become the first Pakistan offspinner to take a five-for at home since Saqlain Mushtaq in 2000.

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ghalib kichlu said:
The nose is supposed to hit the ground before the forehead
Also the fingers and feet should be pointing in the same direction
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Namaz nahi parh raha ground main and i doubt Allah cares if one finger is pointing towards another direction.
Typical mindset.
 
Noman after taking a fifer against England. INDEED SAJDA IS THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY TO THANKS ALLAH.

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Pakistan have earned the right to do as many sajdas as they want for the rest of the year.
 
Haris Ruaf takes a fifer against Australia in Australia. A well deserved one.

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Shahzaib after scoring a brilliant hundred today against India U19 in the Asia Cup game. He went on to score 159 in this game.

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Noman ali takes his 8th fifer in Test cricket including a Hat-trick against West Indies in the 2nd Test match and thanked ALLAH.

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YousafTheBeast said:
You reach a milestone, but you can’t celebrate how you want because some atheist has his knickers in a twist?
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Celebrations are not forced. Expressions come from within and vary for individuals.

It is cruel to subject others to this cookie-cut, inorganic "celebration".

 
Farhan The Man said:
Celebrations are not forced. Expressions come from within and vary for individuals.

It is cruel to subject others to this cookie-cut, inorganic "celebration".

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That’s obviously wrong, no one’s defending Sarfaraz there.

But a one off incident doesn’t mean everyone that does a sajda is being forced to do so.
 
A high profile tournament in islamic republic of pakistan.

In holy month of ramzan.

And not one sajda? Surely uncalled for.
 
Farhan The Man said:
Celebrations are not forced. Expressions come from within and vary for individuals.

It is cruel to subject others to this cookie-cut, inorganic "celebration".

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Safaraz just reminded him. That’s normal. Shah in the moment forgot about it, after taking a 5fer. Shah himself knows what sajda is and thanking Almighty above is essential after any goodness as such. Humans can forget. So I wouldn’t think otherwise.
 
Farhan The Man said:
How do you know what shah thinks or does?

His relationship with god is private.

Pray tell.
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It’s standard how others learn from bigger brothers in the team, or legends of the past. Naseem Shah has done sajda before, am sure. So he knows the drill, but in the moment forgot hence why Sarfraz reminded him. Yes the wordings might have come across differently to you but that’s how Safraz speaks. Btw what’s your issue with thanking God almighty by this such act? Why does it hurt some the non-muslims so much? Really dont get it.
 
Mas-LFC said:
It’s standard how others learn from bigger brothers in the team,
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It's a cricket field.

No one has the right to order others how/when to pray to god. It's an intimate relationship.

You just don't force it on anyone. None of your business. Period.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
You reach a milestone, but you can’t celebrate how you want because some atheist has his knickers in a twist?
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Was Jesus Christ an atheist?

"When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men but when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your father who is unseen.” -
(Matthew 6:5-8)

It's not just atheists even many religious people have issues with prayers because you believe vs prayers just to show off to others.
 
Sachin fan said:
Was Jesus Christ an atheist?

"When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men but when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your father who is unseen.” -
(Matthew 6:5-8)

It's not just atheists even many religious people have issues with prayers because you believe vs prayers just to show off to others.
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You think doing the sajda for a couple of seconds is praying namaz lol?
 
YousafTheBeast said:
You think doing the sajda for a couple of seconds is praying namaz lol?
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Actually it is to an extent.

Like prayers there are stipulations in place. It is rendered meaningless otherwise.

The person should say Allahu Akbar and go into sajdah. When saying Allahu Akbar the hands should not be raised. While in sajdah, he should say the follow Arabic phase:​
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“Subhana rabbiyal a'la”. Translation: “Glory is to my Lord, the Most High”.​
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Muslims can recite “Subhana rabbiyal a'la” at least three times in one sajdah as saying it three times is also the sunnah of Prophet Mohammad (P.B.U.H). Although there is no restriction and so Muslim can say this 3 times or 5 times or 7 times also in one Sajdah.​
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Sajdah in Islam

Sajdah which is called as prostration is one of the most important pillars in Islam and Muslims are asked to perform Sajdah daily
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chinaman00 said:
He’s a Muslim. His relationship with God can not be private. Worship is a public act.
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Dont want to steer this thread so this is my final response.

Privacy in matters of charity and helping people. Prayers and all other acts of worship ( declaration of faith, prayers, pilgrimage & fasting) are public acts.
 
Yasir Khan bows down in humbleness as he ace his fifty for Multan Sultans in 28 balls against Lahore Qalandars in PSL X
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chinaman00 said:
He’s a Muslim. His relationship with God can not be private. Worship is a public act.
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Then why have so many Prophets including Jesus Christ warned against public display of worship? Does the all knowing God not know your prayers unless you do it in public?

The only and only reason someone shows public worship is to show to others who devoted they are. It's nothing to do with real prayer to God.
 
sweep_shot said:
We all should show gratitudes to God whenever something good happens.

Allahu Akbar.
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And that cannot be done in your heart where the all knowing God knows what you are thinking?

I will repeat, the only and only reason for public display for prayers (and it's with every religion), is to show others who devoted you are.

It's not genuinely to thank God, if you believe in God, then you believe he knows what's in your heart.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
You reach a milestone, but you can’t celebrate how you want because some atheist has his knickers in a twist?
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You can do what you want and the atheist and everyone else can also comment whatever they want. Or they can't because they will be lynched by the religious guys.

The only people who seem to have their knickers in twist seem to be those who cannot justify why the all mighty God who can see in your heart and know your thoughts still needs you to publically do something so he knows you are grateful.
 
Sachin fan said:
The only people who seem to have their knickers in twist seem to be those who cannot justify why the all mighty God who can see in your heart and know your thoughts still needs you to publically do something so he knows you are grateful.
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Who said the almighty needs you to do something publicly so he knows you’re grateful?
 
Sachin fan said:
Then why have so many Prophets including Jesus Christ warned against public display of worship? Does the all knowing God not know your prayers unless you do it in public?

The only and only reason someone shows public worship is to show to others who devoted they are. It's nothing to do with real prayer to God.
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You should come to Scotland and tell all those footballers who cross themselves that they are going against the teachings of Jesus Christ by showing a public display of faith. I mean you won't last long here. Similar things are done all over the world and no one bats an eyelid, yet a Muslim decides to do a sajda and ignorance abounds.

It's a personal choice whether someone crosses themselves or does a sajda, only losers with nothing else going on in their lives get offended.
 
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Shaka81 said:
You should come to Scotland and tell all those footballers who cross themselves
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That may be the case.

But these footballers aren't being forced by their captains to cross their hearts. Nor their team selection is based on their beliefs of being protestant v catholic v orthodox et al. Nor their captains are appointed based on religious mannerisms. So much so that you must fast during games and/or not drink in public.

You made a false equivalence.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Who said the almighty needs you to do something publicly so he knows you’re grateful?
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Then you agree there is no need to have these public gestures?
Shaka81 said:
You should come to Scotland and tell all those footballers who cross themselves that they are going against the teachings of Jesus Christ by showing a public display of faith. I mean you won't last long here. Similar things are done all over the world and no one bats an eyelid, yet a Muslim decides to do a sajda and ignorance abounds.

It's a personal choice whether someone crosses themselves or does a sajda, only losers with nothing else going on in their lives get offended.
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The absolute irony of religious people who literally lynch and kill others for doing something they feel is wrong accusing others of "being offended" is both sad and hilarious at the same time.

Mildly disagreeing with stuff and providing opinions is not being "offended".

Being offended is when a religious mob lynches innocent people or burns down the city because of some slight they felt somewhere or someone said or drew something. Or having blasphemy laws in 2025.
 
Sachin fan said:
You can do what you want and the atheist and everyone else can also comment whatever they want. Or they can't because they will be lynched by the religious guys.

The only people who seem to have their knickers in twist seem to be those who cannot justify why the all mighty God who can see in your heart and know your thoughts still needs you to publically do something so he knows you are grateful.
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Please do not bring your Hindu logic to religion. There’s a blasphemous undertones in your comment which is a breach of forum rules. Do not mock God. There’s no excuse for this.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
People are free to do as they wish, is it obligated in Islam, no.
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The concern is whether it is obligated. By captain. Of islamic republick of pakistan.

Players forced to fall in line. Or face exclusion. Surely scottish footballers aren't subjected to such hedonism.

And there he was once again, the captain's dear friend, waiting for yet another 'jamaat' in the well-guarded ambience of players' arena, this time for evening's Asr prayers.​
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A number of them declined the offer to join in, citing tiredness or mental fatigue for their reluctance.​
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"Nothing doing, all rise NOW," declared the burly skipper, much to the annoyance of players. Particularly furious were the two unbeaten batsmen at the crease, who had to undo their pads and safety gear to bow once again to this 'outsider' who introduced himself as a small time actor from Lahore television.
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Keeping faith in cricket

The stranger went onto lead the prayers with reassuring control, all fourteen players lining-up obediently.
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Sachin fan said:
And that cannot be done in your heart where the all knowing God knows what you are thinking?

I will repeat, the only and only reason for public display for prayers (and it's with every religion), is to show others who devoted you are.

It's not genuinely to thank God, if you believe in God, then you believe he knows what's in your heart.
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right but in either case whats the problem. Batters look to the sky when they get their tons. Some take out parchis that say thank you to the red army. These things can be said in the heart too. What about Keshav Maharaj who also does some spiritual gesture before bowling or taking wickets. What about Indian batters that touch the ground before entering it. These things can also be done it the heart. But people do what they feel like in the moment. It is the beauty of being human. It does not need any commenary beyond that.
 
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