RidiculousMan
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Trust me bruh. Just like Indian fans on this forumReally. Prove it.
Definitely. Don't you know the rule? Add +10 years to any Pakistani sportsmanSo you are saying Arafat Minhas must be 32?
You do have eyes right? go and watch the faces of Pak U19 boys and then compare them with Ind U19 boys.It's pretty much common knowledge that Pakistani U19s are almost always above their stated age, so its men vs boys.. Lets face it, the odds are pretty high on almost no one from Pakistan team turning out to be International quality in few years time when they start playing against men regularly in FC.
That may have been the case previously, but it’s pretty obvious with this lot that they’re actual u19s, they actually pretty much look itIt's pretty much common knowledge that Pakistani U19s are almost always above their stated age, so its men vs boys.. Lets face it, the odds are pretty high on almost no one from Pakistan team turning out to be International quality in few years time when they start playing against men regularly in FC.
Jealousy and arrogance is a recipe for destruction, let them destroy themselves.The salt from these Indians is touching unreal levels, which is ironic considering they have a blatant age-fudger themselves being hyped to the moon because of his age.
If his age was not a big deal, he would be considered just another one of those leg side tulles that are in abundance in world cricket at the moment.
Previously like one decade ago.That may have been the case previously, but it’s pretty obvious with this lot that they’re actual u19s, they actually pretty much look it
Two things can be true at one time.The salt from these Indians is touching unreal levels, which is ironic considering they have a blatant age-fudger themselves being hyped to the moon because of his age.
If his age was not a big deal, he would be considered just another one of those leg side tulles that are in abundance in world cricket at the moment.
Not these lot. Bar Danyal, who didnt play, they look young and in the age group.It's pretty much common knowledge that Pakistani U19s are almost always above their stated age, so its men vs boys.. Lets face it, the odds are pretty high on almost no one from Pakistan team turning out to be International quality in few years time when they start playing against men regularly in FC.
Babar AParajith was actually young. He had a low ceiling. That is why he never delivered. He never had oomph factor in the first place. Prithvi shaw also fell away, Kambli fell away. Nothing to do with age. Lack of hard work. INdia has been cracking age frauds for a while. Manjot kalra by 2 months . Adjusted just enough to take part in u19 world cup. His career over for good. Was a good batsman. Most unregularted is in Pakistan , Bangladesh, Afghanistan.Yes India had this problem earlier. No wonder players like Unmukt Chand & Ambati Rayudu , Baba Aparajith never delivered in senior cricket. Last few years BCCI has cracked down on age frauds - which is why we are not winning Asia Cup u-19 any more
Thats why I take U-19 cricket with a lump of salt
If you look at this pictures of him as a child he was stocky then. I think it is genetic. He has to spend time on it like Uthappa who had actual medical condition of slow metabolism.I noticed he's a bit stocky, someone at his age should be lean and fitter.
Did his career end because he has been banned or career end because he waasn;t good enough?Babar AParajith was actually young. He had a low ceiling. That is why he never delivered. He never had oomph factor in the first place. Prithvi shaw also fell away, Kambli fell away. Nothing to do with age. Lack of hard work. INdia has been cracking age frauds for a while. Manjot kalra by 2 months . Adjusted just enough to take part in u19 world cup. His career over for good. Was a good batsman. Most unregularted is in Pakistan , Bangladesh, Afghanistan.
He wasn't picked by many teams. It is a black mark. I know it is not a terrible crime. Rahul Dravid was the coach of that team. He made suggestions to BCCI. One was No cricketer should play 2 Under-19 world cup. Since then BCCI has been following it. Often when the guy plays second world cup they are overage by a month or two. Effective from 2020 batch (Jaiswal, Tilak..). There are some guys from 2024 batch still young. india cannot play them regardless of what happened to them afterwards.Did his career end because he has been banned or career end because he waasn;t good enough?
Still, good from India to try to investigate and clamp down on this. I don't think fudging goes on too much in Pakistan anymore, there will be exceptions mainly from KPK region, not sure about Bangladesh or Afghanistan.
Ian Chappel called Baba Aparajith the 2nd best player of that U19 WC after Unmukt Chand. Both vanished without a traceBabar AParajith was actually young. He had a low ceiling. That is why he never delivered. He never had oomph factor in the first place. Prithvi shaw also fell away, Kambli fell away. Nothing to do with age. Lack of hard work. INdia has been cracking age frauds for a while. Manjot kalra by 2 months . Adjusted just enough to take part in u19 world cup. His career over for good. Was a good batsman. Most unregularted is in Pakistan , Bangladesh, Afghanistan.
u can be fat as a child. Slow metabolism is due to eating habits and diet.If you look at this pictures of him as a child he was stocky then. I think it is genetic. He has to spend time on it like Uthappa who had actual medical condition of slow metabolism.
Yea.. but they were good at that level. They were not really doing anything like GIll or Dhawan were doing. Gill's career was also tracked on social media. Abhishek was his child hood friendy since the age of 10 or something. They have records of that. No age fudging there. That was the year they cracked down and found Manjot Kalra was older by 2 months.Naa
Ian Chappel called Baba Aparajith the 2nd best player of that U19 WC after Unmukt Chand. Both vanished without a trace
Prithvi Shaw - I have doubts whether he is age fraud bcoz initially he was very good even in seniors. He fell away more due to poor lifestyle
Shubman Gill & his sister have their birthdays separated by just 2 months. So pretty obvious age fudging
Abhishek Sharma is also age fraud by 2-3 years
Ayush Mhatre in the IPL looked slim and tiny. Look at him now. Very fat. Too much fast food.u can be fat as a child. Slow metabolism is due to eating habits and diet.
At the most 16 as we have images of him from 2 or 3 years back.
Looks around 18, and build and muscles also tell the same story. Either way it doesn't matter he is in the age range and he is hell of a talent.
No way he is 18. He looked proper 11 year old 2 or 3 years back picture.Looks around 18, and build and muscles also tell the same story. Either way it doesn't matter he is in the age range and he is hell of a talent.
No chanceNo way he is 18. He looked proper 11 year old 2 or 3 years back picture.
He is nto 18 either. He is at the most 16. Tendulkar smashed 4 sixes in row against Qadir at the age of 16 with those old bats.No chance
I have been teaching for decades and I have not seen so much power and muscle on a 14 year old.
6 years age fudging nearly impossible in India - due to AADHAR records & school registrationThat reaction wasn’t of a 16 year old
He’s a 20 year old for sure
No, the reaction was of a toddler whose candy has been stolenThat reaction wasn’t of a 16 year old
He’s a 20 year old for sure
lol I mean it from a fight mode perspectiveNo, the reaction was of a toddler whose candy has been stolen
Wait what happened? He was pointing to his shoes to his teammates or other Pakistani players?lol I mean it from a fight mode perspective
I don’t expect a 14-16 year old to point to his shoes like that in a fight.
At the end of the day, he took the same bus to the hotel and airport like his team mates did.
The best reply so far.we'll find out in a few years, if hes really 14 he'll hit a late teen growth spurt and add on at least 2 or 3 inches to his height.
Not with the power of this lad. He isnt 16, even the South African Rugby players at 16 would lack this power.He is nto 18 either. He is at the most 16. Tendulkar smashed 4 sixes in row against Qadir at the age of 16 with those old bats.
There are 25 year old who struggle to hit as well. That cannot be used as measurement. It was even analyzed in the IPL. He had this whippy follow through that generates power. It is a risky follow through as you can get out often. But that is where all the power comes from.Not with the power of this lad. He isnt 16, even the South African Rugby players at 16 would lack this power.
True but they dont pretend to be 13. He is an amazing talent but he aint no 13 or 14. Its not as if Ind( like us) doesn't have history in age faking. I remember well the U15 WC final from 1996 and overage India beat an overage PK team bar Bazid and a couple of other players. More recently Ambati Rayudu and Shivam Mavi had faked their agesThere are 25 year old who struggle to hit as well. That cannot be used as measurement. It was even analyzed in the IPL. He had this whippy follow through that generates power. It is a risky follow through as you can get out often. But that is where all the power comes from.
Saying he is 19 when his stated age is 14 is a bridge too far. We have seen picture from 3 years back. He looked like 11 year oldkid. If you look at Prithvi shaw he looked really young at school. He suddenly started aging faster. His whole career was tracked every year since shool days. Suddenly at 19 he looked like an old man. Bad diet, bad sleep management ruined his appearance. Vaibhav apparently has pretty bad diet much like US Kids looking so big even at 13.True but they dont pretend to be 13. He is an amazing talent but he aint no 13 or 14. Its not as if Ind( like us) doesn't have history in age faking. I remember well the U15 WC final from 1996 and overage India beat an overage PK team bar Bazid and a couple of other players. More recently Ambati Rayudu and Shivam Mavi had faked their ages
That is a picture of 17 year old kid. I can tell you that I have literally worked with 1000s of young people,over many decades and that is not a 13 or 14 year old kidSaying he is 19 when his stated age is 14 is a bridge too far. We have seen picture from 3 years back. He looked like 11 year oldkid. If you look at Prithvi shaw he looked really young at school. He suddenly started aging faster. His whole career was tracked every year since shool days. Suddenly at 19 he looked like an old man. Bad diet, bad sleep management ruined his appearance. Vaibhav apparently has pretty bad diet much like US Kids looking so big even at 13.
This was early this year right after his 100 in 35 balls. Between this and now he has added a lot of weight. In 8 months significant weight.
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Who said he is 13. officially stated 14.. At best 16. I have also seen kids Indian kidsThat is a picture of 17 year old kid. I can tell you that I have literally worked with 1000s of young people,over many decades and that is not a 13 or 14 year old kid
We will have to just disagreeWho said he is 13. officially stated 14.. At best 16. I have also seen kids Indian kidsNOt that hard
i say ALi Raza is 26 based on my years of age guessing experience. Can you disprove? They say he is 17. He played last world cup u19 as well. So he was 15 then? I mean come on guysWe will have to just disagree
We can objectively agree that Ali raza or past example Naseem shah are not their stated age.i say ALi Raza is 26 based on my years of age guessing experience. Can you disprove? They say he is 17. He played last world cup u19 as well. So he was 15 then? I mean come on guys
I don't deny Vaibhav is probably not 14. HE is most likely 16. Cannot be more than that. worst case 17. Because he looked so tiny in a pic that was released few years before. He is with his father in 2017 IPL as a fan of Rising pune supergiants. He was 7 year old then.We can objectively agree that Ali raza or past example Naseem shah are not their stated age.
Ali raza is probably 20/21 at the very least. Naseem shah was 20/21 as well when he debuted as a 16 year old.
Surya similarly clearly is around 17 and not a 14 year old. Those 2.5/3 years made him marketable in IPL same as 16 year old Naseem was made marketable by PCB as a sensation who could bowl 145+ at 16.
In case of Naseem too there were photos and videos predating his psl and international debut but those don’t make him any less of an age fudger
Good player without brains.... He will improve, I think, but he threw away more games already than he won with his overhyped and brainless batting.

Isn't that what grown man Afridi doing all his life lolGood player without brains.... He will improve, I think, but he threw away more games already than he won with his overhyped and brainless batting.
Isn't that what grown man Afridi doing all his life lol

Those ODI wickets came at an average of 34.51 and those ODI runs came at an average of 23.57Shahid Afridi has close to 400 ODI wickets and over 8000 ODI runs.
Don't compare this bad attitude nobody rookie to a legend like Shahid Afridi.
I don't think Surya will have a great career. Unlikely. Modern day Indian youngsters are quite average.![]()

He was hyped because of his knocks at the international level, even if they are few ones... Huge difference.Isn't that what grown man Afridi doing all his life lol
Except he was 21 . but pretended to be 16. That record is still there on cricinfo as youngest player.He was hyped because of his knocks at the international level, even if they are few ones... Huge difference.
I already said that he is a good player... I think he might even do better than abhishek but he is brainless.. Maybe he will improve ..Except he was 21 . but pretended to be 16. That record is still there on cricinfo as youngest player.
THis was SUryavanshi's performance in ODI tour to ENgland. You guys have not really seen him in youth tests or ODIs . YOu go around making fun of him. This thread will become a highly bumpable thread in the near future.
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That would make Sehwag brainless. AT this age fearless attitude should not be curbed. GUys like him are match winners on their day. Sehwag always had the full license to fail.I already said that he is a good player... I think he might even do better than abhishek but he is brainless.. Maybe he will improve ..
Those ODI wickets came at an average of 34.51 and those ODI runs came at an average of 23.57
God forbid any of our upcoming youngster turns out anything like that .

Shahid Afridi was more than just stats.
If you watched cricket live in that period, you should know.
Afridi dominated India many times (including that Kanpur innings).
He also helped India win countless ganesShahid Afridi was more than just stats.
If you watched cricket live in that period, you should know.
Afridi dominated India many times (including that Kanpur innings).
He's a good talent regardless of age but what I seen of him seems very arrogant and miserable not once have i seen a smile on his face does the world need players with chip on their shoulder

LOL he is like what 15/16.Said it earlier and will say it again. He’s a hack and is nowhere near international quality.
The shot that he got dropped on was not even club level.
With this technique, he’s not getting anywhere near international level.
OK. You keep living in denial. Its all goodi say ALi Raza is 26 based on my years of age guessing experience. Can you disprove? They say he is 17. He played last world cup u19 as well. So he was 15 then? I mean come on guys
I think he’s a hack. Way too many challenges, physical and technical, to overcome before he can compete at the international levelLOL he is like what 15/16.
Guy has some serious talent.
I think he is an amazing talent. He will have to develop his game but he has based his game on Pants and although that technique has flaws, he manages to find ways to put bowlers on the backfoot.I think he’s a hack. Way too many challenges, physical and technical, to overcome before he can compete at the international level
WHat denial dude. Vast majority of the fake age records are with pakistan historically. Right on the screen it said 21 when Afridi walked in. Yet he is holding record youngest centurian or something. THere are enough photos available since childhood days. May be 1 or 2 years at the most. Even 16 is a very young age.OK. You keep living in denial. Its all good
That's fine and we know that. But Why are you getting so salty. He isnt your chacha and it matters not what I or you think.WHat denial dude. Vast majority of the fake age records are with pakistan historically. Right on the screen it said 21 when Afridi walked in. Yet he is holding record youngest centurian or something. THere are enough photos available since childhood days. May be 1 or 2 years at the most. Even 16 is a very young age.
Yes it doesn't matter. He has about 4 or 5 years to polish his game even if he is 16. India has had a lot of so precocious talents. But sometimes some unknown kid surge ahead of this talent and suddenly start making news. Abhishek is case in point. Was a nobody in under-19 world cup. prithvi shaw was his captain. Abhishek is sitting with 14 crore annual IPL contract. Shaw not even picked. Hardwork, discipline take you where you have to go. No just the talent.That's fine and we know that. But Why are you getting so salty. He isnt your chacha and it matters not what I or you think.
He is an amazing talent but he is a little older, however that matters little as he still has to perform,And With his talent he will do that.Yes it doesn't matter. He has about 4 or 5 years to polish his game even if he is 16. India has had a lot of so precocious talents. But sometimes some unknown kid surge ahead of this talent and suddenly start making news. Abhishek is case in point. Was a nobody in under-19 world cup. prithvi shaw was his captain. Abhishek is sitting with 14 crore annual IPL contract. Shaw not even picked. Hardwork, discipline take you where you have to go. No just the talent.
It is not possible in the last 20 years or so here. If you ask DOB certificat you have to procure from the hospital where you born Some states like Bihar may be exception. In South states it is literally impossible. Even before this clamping down. Also BCCI is very strict about age verification. One guy's career ruined because of that after he was caught he was overage by 2 months.Unless someone is born in a remote area of Pakistan, it has become almost impossible to change DOB in Pak since the records are sent to NADRA. I have no idea how it works in Ind.
Age related frauds have a far less likelihood in Pakistan than some years ago.
I guess at the end of the day everybody is accepting that he is u-19.He is an amazing talent but he is a little older, however that matters little as he still has to perform,And With his talent he will do that.
Inds and PKs are obsessed with records and this is part of that narrative. You think he is 14, I think he is around 18. Neither of our opinions matter
He is definitely U19 and an amazing talent. What is interesting that they get very salty when you dont accept the age 14 narrative.I guess at the end of the day everybody is accepting that he is u-19.
India don't let players play multiple u-19 cups anyway so this kid won't be playing at this level for too long regardless.
I say he is not u14 as well. I am with you on that. But definitely not 19. At best 16. There is a video circulating where he says his actual age. nOt sure how credible that is. Going by that he is 16.He is definitely U19 and an amazing talent. What is interesting that they get very salty when you dont accept the age 14 narrative.