Well...you are complicating it; they get salty on every occasion when their rationalization gets questioned.He is definitely U19 and an amazing talent. What is interesting that they get very salty when you dont accept the age 14 narrative.
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Well...you are complicating it; they get salty on every occasion when their rationalization gets questioned.He is definitely U19 and an amazing talent. What is interesting that they get very salty when you dont accept the age 14 narrative.
Definitely. He was overqualified for this U19. We have seen Gill, Pant so many players in domestic cricket. Nobody batters domestic teams like this at this age. Guys like Jaiswal, Gill were pretty good in the under-19. But it took a while for them to get noticed. In Suryavanshi's case, he already made the headlines and then played under-19.He is extremely talented to the point that he has lost interest in u19 cricket, he needs to play the big boy game.
Yeah, just take a look at how fast his bat moves, never seen anything like thatDefinitely. He was overqualified for this U19. We have seen Gill, Pant so many players in domestic cricket. Nobody batters domestic teams like this at this age. Guys like Jaiswal, Gill were pretty good in the under-19. But it took a while for them to get noticed. In Suryavanshi's case, he already made the headlines and then played under-19.
Stop lying , It's a Bihar vs Arunachal Pardesh OD game and every bihar batter batted with 200+ strike rate , there is a guy who batted at 300 S/R and scored a century in the same innings and Bihar score a mammoth total of 574 runs with 3 centuries scored and Surya wasn't the fastest century scorer from his team , and no batter batted 32 runs on 83 balls (it's a lie) everyone were whacking Arunachal Pardesh bowlers like they are no bodies.OUt at 190. one of his partner is 32 runs 83 balls.
Is it second division cricket?Stop lying , It's a Bihar vs Arunachal Pardesh OD game and every bihar batter batted with 200+ strike rate , there is a guy who batted at 300 S/R and scored a century in the same innings and Bihar score a mammoth total of 574 runs with 3 centuries scored and Surya wasn't the fastest century scorer from his team , and no batter batted 32 runs on 83 balls (it's a lie) everyone were whacking Arunachal Pardesh bowlers like they are no bodies.
He is definitely U19 and an amazing talent. What is interesting that they get very salty when you dont accept the age 14 narrative.

Stop lying , It's a Bihar vs Arunachal Pardesh OD game and every bihar batter batted with 200+ strike rate , there is a guy who batted at 300 S/R and scored a century in the same innings and Bihar score a mammoth total of 574 runs with 3 centuries scored and Surya wasn't the fastest century scorer from his team , and no batter batted 32 runs on 83 balls (it's a lie) everyone were whacking Arunachal Pardesh bowlers like they are no bodies.

lmao What class of bowling this would be. Conceding nearly 600Now playing in vijay hazare ODI tournament .
197 for 1 .. SUryavanshi 148 not out. 33 more overs to go. At this rate he can score 400 runs in a LIst A lol IT is tough though.
Probably Rse division.Is it second division cricket?
Yeah… lost interestHe is extremely talented to the point that he has lost interest in u19 cricket, he needs to play the big boy game.
Not as fast as you and your clone disappearing when things get tough for India. Where is Messo these days?Yeah, just take a look at how fast his bat moves, never seen anything like that
@The Bald EagleNow playing in vijay hazare ODI tournament .
197 for 1 .. SUryavanshi 148 not out. 33 more overs to go. At this rate he can score 400 runs in a LIst A lol IT is tough though.
OUt at 190. one of his partner is 32 runs 83 balls.
Lol @jnaveen1980, you yourself shared the link of the scorecard. Which batsman were you talking about?Stop lying , It's a Bihar vs Arunachal Pardesh OD game and every bihar batter batted with 200+ strike rate , there is a guy who batted at 300 S/R and scored a century in the same innings and Bihar score a mammoth total of 574 runs with 3 centuries scored and Surya wasn't the fastest century scorer from his team , and no batter batted 32 runs on 83 balls (it's a lie) everyone were whacking Arunachal Pardesh bowlers like they are no bodies.



Stop lying , It's a Bihar vs Arunachal Pardesh OD game and every bihar batter batted with 200+ strike rate , there is a guy who batted at 300 S/R and scored a century in the same innings and Bihar score a mammoth total of 574 runs with 3 centuries scored and Surya wasn't the fastest century scorer from his team , and no batter batted 32 runs on 83 balls (it's a lie) everyone were whacking Arunachal Pardesh bowlers like they are no bodies.
Kambli played 100 ODIs. It is not like he was not given chance. He had enough time to get to next level with those opportunities. Prithvi shaw never broke the door down like others. If Karun Nair can stake a claim at this age why not Shaw. If players stop working hard that is what will happen.Better not turn out to be another Vinod Kambli or Prithvi Shaw with the amount of spotlight on him at the moment.
He has the physique that's slightly chubby, resembling of younger version of Prithvi Shaw.
There was in no point where a batter was 32 off 83.Dude.. where is the lie here. At one point there was one batsman 32 in 83 balls. I switched off; i didn't follow after that. IN syed mustaq ali trophy he was the highest run getter for his state hitting 14 sixes in 6 games
As per an older interview, he actually turned 16 this September. Definitely not 14He is definitely U19 and an amazing talent. What is interesting that they get very salty when you dont accept the age 14 narrative.
Might have been 53. This SR may be 83. Typoed. They showed the score only intermittently. Once they showed at 190 next time they shwoed 272. It is nto a live score tracking. Vaibhavy had just gotten out.There was in no point where a batter was 32 off 83.
That is the consense of all. But even 16 is a very young age.As per an older interview, he actually turned 16 this September. Definitely not 14
Whilst he’s still U19, the age fudging is not a good look, especially given how strict the BCCI is with other examples of players having done that. Wonder if they’ll make an exception for him.As per an older interview, he actually turned 16 this September. Definitely not 14
won pakistan the world cup in 2009 something that Babar hasnt achieved yet.I saw cricket throughout the 90's to know that Afridi was a player who helped his team lose countless matches because of his reckless batting and irresponsible attitude. For every success he had, he compensated it with 20 odd failures. The worst player among all those who played 200 ODI matches or more. A below average bowler, a pathetic, irresponsible slogger.
Try brainwashing the modern generation youngsters who missed cricket in the 90's.
What about 2009 when he helped pakistan win the world cup ?He also helped India win countless ganes
Like 2007 World T20 final - got out to 1st ball duck to Irfan Pathan thanks to a brainless shot
Or 2011 Mohali semi final when he hit a nice juicy full toss straight to fielder
Whilst he’s still U19, the age fudging is not a good look, especially given how strict the BCCI is with other examples of players having done that. Wonder if they’ll make an exception for him.
Lol..I hear you..i hear he is actually 38..my mamoos best friends uncles nephew played a tape ball game with his brothers friend..onceTrust me bruh. Just like Indian fans on this forum
They have been strict with players who were clearly overage for the age group tournaments.Whilst he’s still U19, the age fudging is not a good look, especially given how strict the BCCI is with other examples of players having done that. Wonder if they’ll make an exception for him.
I get that he’s really an U19, but the underlying point is that he’s trying to deceive w/ the age understatement. Just saw a Cricinfo article today where they said he was 14 and a half years old.They have been strict with players who were clearly overage for the age group tournaments.
He's technically not overage even if his stated age is wrong. So he might get more leeway than the others.
But yes, his age should be corrected
Afridi's record, Hasan Raza's record are still on cricinfoI get that he’s really an U19, but the underlying point is that he’s trying to deceive w/ the age understatement. Just saw a Cricinfo article today where they said he was 14 and a half years old.
For the record, I find it distasteful if anyone does it, including Pakistanis, because if you can intentionally deceive re: your age, what else will you not be honest about?
Does that justify age fudging?Afridi's record, Hasan Raza's record are still on cricinfo
Pakistan has history of age fudging. Majority of the current u19 is not exactly u19. That is even worse. His father denies it is age fudging. What can you do to prove that?Does that justify age fudging?
Where have pakistan denied they dont do age fudging.Pakistan has history of age fudging. Majority of the current u19 is not exactly u19. That is even worse. His father denies it is age fudging. What can you do to prove that?
You would be surprised if i told u such large margins of age fudging is common.So you are saying Arafat Minhas must be 32?
No you don't punish age fudgers. If BCCI catches they punish them.Where have pakistan denied they dont do age fudging.
Difference is we accept our mistakes, while you guys defend it just like you are doing regarding Surya.
I never said we punish. I said we pakistani fans call them outNo you don't punish age fudgers. If BCCI catches they punish them.
Many Indians agree he is 1 or 2 years older. 16. Given his photo in 2017 he cannot be more than that.I never said we punish. I said we pakistani fans call them out
So he did age fudge right?Many Indians agree he is 1 or 2 years older. 16. Given his photo in 2017 he cannot be more than that.
Even some Pak U19 players age fudge too by an year or two pretending to be 16/17 in the U19s but mostly not.So he did age fudge right?
Mohammad asif interview goes like thisEven some Pak U19 players age fudge too by an year or two pretending to be 16/17 in the U19s but mostly not.
How many more years will pass when we are going to hear that Viabhav is 14 years old again???
I dont wanna share his interview from like 33 years ago ,where he himself said that he is 14 If I am not forgetting anything.... 14 years now???Biggest attention he got when he was bought for 1.1 crores in 2024 by Rajasthan Royals. He was 13 yeasr old. As per cricinf his turns 15 in March 11, 2026. He turned 14 only on march 11, 2025.
I dont wanna share his interview from like 33 years ago ,where he himself said that he is 14 If I am not forgetting anything.... 14 years now???
JOKEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Then why is he still being presented as 14 years old.... You guys needs to do the math and atleast say that is 16....If you go by that interview he is 16 now which is still young. But if you look at his photo in 2023 he looks so tiny.
If you believe that interview then you should believe this too lol.Then why is he still being presented as 14 years old.... You guys needs to do the math and atleast say that is 16....
So a guy himself mentioned in 2023 that he is 14.. and now he is still 14 after 2 yearS????? Crazy logic from you guys...If you believe that interview then you should believe this too lol.
I agree. It's not ideal. Rahul Dravid in particular wanted it stamped out but these things take time, I suppose.I get that he’s really an U19, but the underlying point is that he’s trying to deceive w/ the age understatement. Just saw a Cricinfo article today where they said he was 14 and a half years old.
For the record, I find it distasteful if anyone does it, including Pakistanis, because if you can intentionally deceive re: your age, what else will you not be honest about?

Think we need a comparison thread - Vaibhav vs Sameer Minhas.This age fudger scored runs against another pop-gun bowling attack?
Big surprise.
Overweight age-fudging tulla, nothing else.
Sadly and painfully, these threads dont end well for us. I will leave it to you. 2 guys around 18 and both very talented. It has the makings of an epic decade long threadThink we need a comparison thread - Vaibhav vs Sameer Minhas.
@jnaveen1980 u didnt answrSo he did age fudge right?
Definitely. Don't you know the rule? Add +10 years to any Pakistani sportsman
@RidiculousMan, thanks for saying that in advance. I was prepared and didn't get a shock after reading @jnaveen1980's post.Mohammad asif interview goes like this
Pakistan pacers are 17-18 only on paper, they are 27-28 in reality: Mohammad Asif , hitting out at their “inability” to bowl long spells.

Samir Minhas is probably 25 years old. Pakistanis are much worse offenders when it comes to age fudging than IndiaSadly and painfully, these threads dont end well for us. I will leave it to you. 2 guys around 18 and both very talented. It has the makings of an epic decade long thread
Many Indians agree he is 1 or 2 years older. 16. Given his photo in 2017 he cannot be more than that.
If you go by that interview he is 16 now which is still young. But if you look at his photo in 2023 he looks so tiny.
Calm down. You look stressed. If he is 16 right now, then that is clearly age fudging. You should accept it and move on instead of dragging Pakistani players and their age issues into this. It's not your job to defend age fudging especially when you have already admitted that even some Indians think the same.If you believe that interview then you should believe this too lol.

Prove it please.Samir Minhas is probably 25 years old. Pakistanis are much worse offenders when it comes to age fudging than India

lmao What class of bowling this would be. Conceding nearly 600
Bring some evidenceSamir Minhas is probably 25 years old. Pakistanis are much worse offenders when it comes to age fudging than India
Wait for a few years. When Samir starts playing senior cricket - U will get the answer whether he is 18 or overage fraudBring some evidence
The so-called evidence is basically 'trust me bro' and "I want to defend age fudging but can't, so let me drag Pakistanis into the thread."Bring some evidence

So did suryavanshi age fudge?There are multiple threads on PP about age frauds in Pakistan cricket. Many posters have given detailed posts on this issue & how pervasive it is in Pakistan cricket.
Still some people still need proofs !
Yes he didSo did suryavanshi age fudge?
Do you have any proof that Sameer Minhas is lying about his age, like interviews or anything concrete that suggests he is doing so? There are proven cases of spot-fixing in the IPL, does that mean it's still happening today? If I claim spot-fixing is happening now, wouldn't you ask me for proof? If yes, then apply the same standard here and prove that Sameer Minhas is lying. Every new allegation requires fresh evidence. Waiting...There are multiple threads on PP about age frauds in Pakistan cricket. Many posters have given detailed posts on this issue & how pervasive it is in Pakistan cricket.
Still some people still need proofs !

I dont have evidence that Iftikhar is age fraud. He is officially 35 years old. But I know he is mid 40s. Bcoz I have basic common senseDo you have any proof that Sameer Minhas is lying about his age, like interviews or anything concrete that suggests he is doing so? There are proven cases of spot-fixing in the IPL, does that mean it's still happening today? If I claim spot-fixing is happening now, wouldn't you ask me for proof? If yes, then apply the same standard here and prove that Sameer Minhas is lying. Every new allegation requires fresh evidence. Waiting...![]()
It probably other way around.. he might misread it.. mistakes happen..There was in no point where a batter was 32 off 83.
No one is bashing the game play of surya.I sincerely hope a Vaibhav vs Samir Minhas thread gets created. Bcoz many posters here think Vaibhav is a fraud and Samir Minhas is the real deal. I am in the opposite camp. I know Vaibhav is age fraud but he is 16-17 years old and a genuine U-19 unlike Samir who is probably 24-25 year old bullying U-19 bowlers and will probably get exposed in senior cricket. While Vaibhav will probably make it to both white ball teams as a permanent fixture
So lets create the thread and get everyone to comment. 5 years from now we will know who got it right and who got it wrong. Whatever the end result - the whole thread will be fun to read 5 years from now , much like some of the other comparison threads
Best way to figure out whether a player is age fraud or not is how their career progresses in senior cricket. Age frauds often dominate age group cricket - bcoz they are bigger / stronger and ahead in the developmental phase but get exposed in senior cricket playing against their peers !
Thank you for actually getting the point of the post, rather than making it a country vs country thing.I agree. It's not ideal. Rahul Dravid in particular wanted it stamped out but these things take time, I suppose.
When we started producing cricketers from outside the traditional cricketing centres, the age faking increased in our cricket - we had Sehwag, Munaf, Praveen, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Raina all playing around the same time in 2011.
But even that has reduced now with maybe only Akashdeep among active international players looking overage.
But a lot more needs to be done
I agree that Samir might not be his stated age but even in Pakistan 6 year age fudging is not possible these days in urban centres like multan.I sincerely hope a Vaibhav vs Samir Minhas thread gets created. Bcoz many posters here think Vaibhav is a fraud and Samir Minhas is the real deal. I am in the opposite camp. I know Vaibhav is age fraud but he is 16-17 years old and a genuine U-19 unlike Samir who is probably 24-25 year old bullying U-19 bowlers and will probably get exposed in senior cricket. While Vaibhav will probably make it to both white ball teams as a permanent fixture
So lets create the thread and get everyone to comment. 5 years from now we will know who got it right and who got it wrong. Whatever the end result - the whole thread will be fun to read 5 years from now , much like some of the other comparison threads
Best way to figure out whether a player is age fraud or not is how their career progresses in senior cricket. Age frauds often dominate age group cricket - bcoz they are bigger / stronger and ahead in the developmental phase but get exposed in senior cricket playing against their peers !
In no world is Sameer ‘25’. The biggest indicator of this is his thin physique, that of a teenager. You compare that to his brother Arafat, who’s a developed guy and it’s clear that Sameer is a young man.I sincerely hope a Vaibhav vs Samir Minhas thread gets created. Bcoz many posters here think Vaibhav is a fraud and Samir Minhas is the real deal. I am in the opposite camp. I know Vaibhav is age fraud but he is 16-17 years old and a genuine U-19 unlike Samir who is probably 24-25 year old bullying U-19 bowlers and will probably get exposed in senior cricket. While Vaibhav will probably make it to both white ball teams as a permanent fixture
So lets create the thread and get everyone to comment. 5 years from now we will know who got it right and who got it wrong. Whatever the end result - the whole thread will be fun to read 5 years from now , much like some of the other comparison threads
Best way to figure out whether a player is age fraud or not is how their career progresses in senior cricket. Age frauds often dominate age group cricket - bcoz they are bigger / stronger and ahead in the developmental phase but get exposed in senior cricket playing against their peers !
Yes u are right. I m also against this " 14 yeard old " nonsenseNo one is bashing the game play of surya.
What is being pointed out is that surya age fudged, but indians are butt hurt and have issues accepting that. They are going on about pakistani players faking ages, which posters here have often accepted.
Its just the defence of indian posters here on surya which is being made fun of, because indian posters were the biggest critics of age fudging (rightly) and now defending surya
Sameer Minhas is not as hyped as this fat tulla. He is someone who has performed in one big game, but that doesn't guarantee he will go on to become a top player, specially with how PCB treats its talent.I sincerely hope a Vaibhav vs Samir Minhas thread gets created. Bcoz many posters here think Vaibhav is a fraud and Samir Minhas is the real deal. I am in the opposite camp. I know Vaibhav is age fraud but he is 16-17 years old and a genuine U-19 unlike Samir who is probably 24-25 year old bullying U-19 bowlers and will probably get exposed in senior cricket. While Vaibhav will probably make it to both white ball teams as a permanent fixture
So lets create the thread and get everyone to comment. 5 years from now we will know who got it right and who got it wrong. Whatever the end result - the whole thread will be fun to read 5 years from now , much like some of the other comparison threads
Best way to figure out whether a player is age fraud or not is how their career progresses in senior cricket. Age frauds often dominate age group cricket - bcoz they are bigger / stronger and ahead in the developmental phase but get exposed in senior cricket playing against their peers !
Only 25. Why dont you make that 35.Samir Minhas is probably 25 years old. Pakistanis are much worse offenders when it comes to age fudging than India