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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Ihsanullah - Another promising pacer from KPK

Briliant Bowling.. Shaheen, Rauf, NAseem, Ihsanullah....powerpack combination
 
Major said:
Who thee hell iss this kid or guy.

Pakistan has soo many bowlers and the funny thing is, islamabad uniteds zamir is yet to play.

We are truely blessed with bowlers. India take note
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Pakistan always produces raw pacemen like India produces batsmen. Somethings never change.
 
Major said:
Who thee hell iss this kid or guy.

Pakistan has soo many bowlers and the funny thing is, islamabad uniteds zamir is yet to play.

We are truely blessed with bowlers. India take note
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Let us stick to our own cricket and not worry about India.
 
Major said:
Who thee hell iss this kid or guy.

Pakistan has soo many bowlers and the funny thing is, islamabad uniteds zamir is yet to play.

We are truely blessed with bowlers. India take note
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Yea bro. This pace attack should win the World Cup and the Test series in Australia for Pakkstan. This Ihsanullah is extremely gifted. 150 kph with ease.
 
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He’s around 25.

This stupid format will destroy him like others. This is a genuine test prospect who will go mercenary like hasnain , Raif n co.

Not getting excited.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Yea bro. This pace attack should win the World Cup and the Test series in Australia for Pakkstan. This Ihsanullah is extremely gifted. 150 kph with ease.
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He will become Pajama league mercenary like other high potential pace bowlers and never amount to anything in red ball cricket.
 
What a spell!

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I mentioned in the match thread that this was the second best bowling display in the history of PSL.

Almost as good as Shaheen's 5 for 4 in 2018.

Great prospect for Pakistan cricket.
 
People adding 5 even 8 years, so the physiognomists what makes you think he's not 20 but 25 and even 28 ? Something to do with wrinkles? Or perhaps the hairline ?

I mean as per his PCB profile he played for FATA U-16, you can perhaps lie about 2-3 years max at this level, but I struggle to see how someone can play with 5-8 years at this stage, if you've ever been a teenager (I'm sure you did), there's a huge physiognomical difference happening between the age of 13-16 that you detect easily.

Also he's Pathan so perhaps that's why he looks more mature.
 
Mirpuri Don said:
People adding 5 even 8 years, so the physiognomists what makes you think he's not 20 but 25 and even 28 ? Something to do with wrinkles? Or perhaps the hairline ?

I mean as per his PCB profile he played for FATA U-16, you can perhaps lie about 2-3 years max at this level, but I struggle to see how someone can play with 5-8 years at this stage, if you've ever been a teenager (I'm sure you did), there's a huge physiognomical difference happening between the age of 13-16 that you detect easily.

Also he's Pathan so perhaps that's why he looks more mature.
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To be honest, he looks like he is 30.
 
Why worry about his age?

What's this fascination whenever any new talent emerges from Pakistan?
 
MenInG said:
Why worry about his age?

What's this fascination whenever any new talent emerges from Pakistan?
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Because it impacts on how high a ceiling they have, and for how long they can serve Pakistan. No point backing a cricketer with no room for improvement, unless their performance is such that it would be silly not to select them and they can benefit Pakistan in the meantime.
 
MenInG said:
Why worry about his age?

What's this fascination whenever any new talent emerges from Pakistan?
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Yes, I hate it when age becomes the main topic whenver a new talent shows up, unless he is playing in an under 19 or under 15 tournament where age does matter .
 
Top pacy spell from Ihsanullah.

Was bowling really well in domestic cricket this season and played red ball cricket as well, that all build up alongside fitness work definitely helped him.

High ceiling across the formats if he keeps himself fit and focused.
 
After a long time I have seen a Pakistani bowler who has the ingredients to play and perform well in the real format which is Test Cricket. He has the built, height and bounce. In other words he is nasty like the West Indians Croft and Patterson. He will really impress on our tour of Australia.

Now it's up to our selectors if they have the brains to pick him for such an important tour or he himself has the attitude and enthusiasm to play the longer format. I hope he doesn't waste his talent playing mickey mouse cricket and useless leagues.
 
Looks like he could play all formats and do well.

I just hope he and the PCB focus on Test cricket with him.
 
Saj said:
Looks like he could play all formats and do well.

I just hope he and the PCB focus on Test cricket with him.
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I saw he completely seized up when being interviewed in the post match interview. That type of nervousness only comes from a young lad. He seems like a very simple lad, which means he’s probably very coachable. The PCB needs to have him train under the right coaches.

Alhamdullillah, I can only imagine how good he’ll be once he actually starts bowling with complete assuredness and confidence.
 
Saj said:
Looks like he could play all formats and do well.

I just hope he and the PCB focus on Test cricket with him.
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Regardless of his age he should be inducted in all formats get his peak years in international cricket 7-10 years of peak are better than 15 years of mediocrity.
 
Another hypefest.

Please stop hyping players unless they consistently win you pressure matches.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
MashAllah, that’s great. And unlike the others, he has height on his side.
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He's defo taller than Wahab Riaz (circa 6'2''), around his Multan Sultans teammates to me he appeared to be 6'4''-6'5'' (he was slightly taller than 6'3'' Usama Mir when standing next to him).
 
His height is what I am excited about... finally a tall fast bowler. A few inches taller makes a huge difference on his bowling length.
 
He gets extra Zip due to his snapping of his wrists he can definitely be a prospect in the longer format.

His fielding was that off club level and also dropped a catch needs massive improvement in this aspect.
 
shamaan said:
He gets extra Zip due to his snapping of his wrists he can definitely be a prospect in the longer format.

His fielding was that off club level and also dropped a catch needs massive improvement in this aspect.
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Its the way county coaches coach young fast bowlers. It adds miles and zip to the ball
 
This is a world class test prospect who I am sure we will ruin to pieces in less then 12 months.
 
Major said:
Who thee hell iss this kid or guy.

Pakistan has soo many bowlers and the funny thing is, islamabad uniteds zamir is yet to play.

We are truely blessed with bowlers. India take note
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They are all soda bottles. They make a loud pop and then there is nothing inside.

All Pakistani fake fast bowlers (except Shaheen) have fizz for 4 over T20 spells only.

Naseem is one of the worst fast bowlers in history of Test cricket, Rauf chickened out of Test cricket after 1 Test, Hasnain and Dahani don’t have what it takes to play Test cricket either.

I don’t know anything about this Zamir guy but he will probably be another soda bottle.

Shami at 36-37 (real age) is still a miles better Test bowler than all Pakistani soda bottles.
 
Mamoon said:
They are all soda bottles. They make a loud pop and then there is nothing inside.

All Pakistani fake fast bowlers (except Shaheen) have fizz for 4 over T20 spells only.

Naseem is one of the worst fast bowlers in history of Test cricket, Rauf chickened out of Test cricket after 1 Test, Hasnain and Dahani don’t have what it takes to play Test cricket either.

I don’t know anything about this Zamir guy but he will probably be another soda bottle.

Shami at 36-37 (real age) is still a miles better Test bowler than all Pakistani soda bottles.
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None of these lads have the stomach for Test cricket, neither do they seem interested in playing it anymore. The amount of FC cricket these bowlers have played in their careers, they should never be selected for the Test team in the ideal world as you can never substitute experience for raw talent when it comes to Test cricket.
 
Hopefully Ihsanullah can be inspired to play test cricket as unlike Hasnain and co he has potential to do well in that format.
 
Mamoon said:
They are all soda bottles. They make a loud pop and then there is nothing inside.

All Pakistani fake fast bowlers (except Shaheen) have fizz for 4 over T20 spells only.

Naseem is one of the worst fast bowlers in history of Test cricket, Rauf chickened out of Test cricket after 1 Test, Hasnain and Dahani don’t have what it takes to play Test cricket either.

I don’t know anything about this Zamir guy but he will probably be another soda bottle.

Shami at 36-37 (real age) is still a miles better Test bowler than all Pakistani soda bottles.
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Even if you forget his natural advantages over the others here (pace + height) Ihsanullah consistently hits that right, fullish Test length and plays with batsmen with his line instead, in fact India's Siraj is the closest in being that consistent there. Also good use of the wrists for the swing outside the extra-zip/bounce he gets from not only his height but also from his hight-arm action (Mohammed Irfan was taller but the slingish action meant he didn't take advantage as he should).

Naseem has a good seam with decent pace but is way shorter (5'10'') and more importantly less consistent in his lenght, while Rauf/Hasnain are just pace really and will probably never be succesful in red-ball (Hasnain being way younger has room for improvement though.)

What's interesting is that in the 1st match, Ihsanullah was bowling way shorter, so he has the cricketing brain to figure out how to bowl depending on the conditions. It does show that he'd benefit from pro coaching as he's eager to learn & evolve.

Also you talk of 4 spell but it has also to be noted that Ihsanullah maintained his pace in the mid-140s throughout, unlike other in T20s he doesn't show much interest in "variations", which I think is a good sign as well.

Ihsanullah is defo the most exciting PSL fast bowler discovery since Shaheen, which doesn't mean he'd have a successful career, etc but that the "raw ingredients" are all there.
 
Mamoon said:
They are all soda bottles. They make a loud pop and then there is nothing inside.

All Pakistani fake fast bowlers (except Shaheen) have fizz for 4 over T20 spells only.

Naseem is one of the worst fast bowlers in history of Test cricket, Rauf chickened out of Test cricket after 1 Test, Hasnain and Dahani don’t have what it takes to play Test cricket either.

I don’t know anything about this Zamir guy but he will probably be another soda bottle.

Shami at 36-37 (real age) is still a miles better Test bowler than all Pakistani soda bottles.
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Love the soda pop definition

Ihsan is a good bowler but I think he can only bowl

He can’t field to save his life and I doubt he offers anything with the bat. Might be strong enough to tonk a few at the back end
 
Mamoon said:
They are all soda bottles. They make a loud pop and then there is nothing inside.

All Pakistani fake fast bowlers (except Shaheen) have fizz for 4 over T20 spells only.

Naseem is one of the worst fast bowlers in history of Test cricket, Rauf chickened out of Test cricket after 1 Test, Hasnain and Dahani don’t have what it takes to play Test cricket either.

I don’t know anything about this Zamir guy but he will probably be another soda bottle.

Shami at 36-37 (real age) is still a miles better Test bowler than all Pakistani soda bottles.
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Test cricket is finished in Pakistan, the fans don't care for it and neither do the players.

If these new lads can bowl for 4 overs then that's good enough for me.
 
Abdul Razzaq speaking on TV

“When New Zealand came here, we selected him for the Test team. I had seen him in the National T20 Cup and he impressed me. If we work on him and he works on his fitness, I'm sure he can touch the 160kph mark. We have to look after such bowlers, and that's the responsibility of PCB. We have to give chances to those who perform in the PSL,”
 
This lad could potentially be a monster of a bowler for pakistan regardless of his age. Pakistan bowlers really need to find the passion for test cricket by training hard in the gym and put in the hard yards in FC
 
Our poor cricket system and an appalling, unprofessional cricketing culture has wasted 100s of good cricketers. Will he be any different, well time will tell but when you have criminals like Sethi in charge, that ain't about to change
 
Bewal Express said:
Our poor cricket system and an appalling, unprofessional cricketing culture has wasted 100s of good cricketers. Will he be any different, well time will tell but when you have criminals like Sethi in charge, that ain't about to change
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I’m more hopeful with Mickey in charge. Whilst results were mixed in Mickey’s first go around, he’s always been class at developing players and inshAllah I hope that Ihsanullah is a successful project for Mickey.
 
We are producing 4 over champion bowlers.

We need to produce more bowlers who can take wickets in Test cricket and have the skills and stamina to bowl 15 to 20 overs a day.
 
Saj said:
We are producing 4 over champion bowlers.

We need to produce more bowlers who can take wickets in Test cricket and have the skills and stamina to bowl 15 to 20 overs a day.
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That requires bowling in FC with at least 18 overs in a day.
 
Saj said:
We are producing 4 over champion bowlers.

We need to produce more bowlers who can take wickets in Test cricket and have the skills and stamina to bowl 15 to 20 overs a day.
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Yep, I don’t think he’s got that kind of fitness I’m afraid

He was pulling up during his spell too. Plus the guy can only run to bowl. No other athletic ability

His fielding is like a u11
 
I hope he’s not carrying drinks for the main team in useless series while main fc season is going on. The likes of Hasnain and Waseem have been destroyed by this practice
 
He's done an interview where he says he would like to debut against India and take a 5fer.

I fear for him as some idiots in the press are filling his head with inane stuff when he should really be concentrating on his bowling/fitness.
 
shamaan said:
So who's coached Ihsanullah ?
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Ottis Gibson was with MS last year as bowling coach when Ihsanullah first emerged in PSL but got injured after a match or two.

Currently Ajmal Shehzad is the bowling coach of MS.

Also must have worked with NCA and domestic coaches.
 
Very impressive 3/24 for Ihsanullah today

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Most wickets so far at PSL8<br><br>Ihsanullah 10<br>Usama Mir 6<br>Abbas Afridi 4<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL8?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL8</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1626626070542680069?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 17, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Saj said:
We are producing 4 over champion bowlers.

We need to produce more bowlers who can take wickets in Test cricket and have the skills and stamina to bowl 15 to 20 overs a day.
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So true Saj. None of them are interested in playing test cricket.

PCB and Babar must keep an eye on Ihsanullah and not allow him to take it easy.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Test cricket is finished in Pakistan, the fans don't care for it and neither do the players.

If these new lads can bowl for 4 overs then that's good enough for me.
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Yeah, but without test cricket other formats will also go eventually. Look at West Indies they focused on White ball cricket and look what happened to them. They couldn't even qualify for the T20 world cup. T20 specialists will always have lower quality than those who can succeed at test level. Test cricket should be the prime focus. Other categories will improve along with it.
 
Saj said:
We are producing 4 over champion bowlers.

We need to produce more bowlers who can take wickets in Test cricket and have the skills and stamina to bowl 15 to 20 overs a day.
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He is 20 years old and has talent. Now it is up to PCB to assist his development to a test level player. Make him play first class & also get him in county cricket, a season or two in the counties and he will be ready.

Problem with T20 leagues is the abundance of money. Which makes them think T20 is all they ever need to play.
 
Saj said:
We are producing 4 over champion bowlers.

We need to produce more bowlers who can take wickets in Test cricket and have the skills and stamina to bowl 15 to 20 overs a day.
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Its stupid to think the likes of Naseem, Hasnain and Dahani can bowl in Test cricket, when they hardly play any meaningful first class cricket at home. A test-class bowler needs to put in the hard yards before he learns how to bowl long spells, these lads are running after money and only interested in playing pyjama leagues.
 
This lad is a serious T20 bowler. Whether or not he has stamina for ODIs or tests is still to be seen.
 
10 wickets in 3 matches so far at the PSL.

Clearly a very good T20 bowler, however I want to see if he can become a good Test bowler.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">Ihsanullah performing a Sajdah after taking the wicket of Babar Azam <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL8?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL8</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MSvPZ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MSvPZ</a> <a href="https://t.co/3P2nb43dkn">pic.twitter.com/3P2nb43dkn</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1626660681335427077?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 17, 2023</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A day to remember for Ihsanullah - takes the wicket of the Pakistan skipper and then gets the chance to have his picture taken with him <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL8?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL8</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MSvPZ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MSvPZ</a> <a href="https://t.co/Hv5FGVcSvu">pic.twitter.com/Hv5FGVcSvu</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1626661439942320132?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 17, 2023</a></blockquote>
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MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A day to remember for Ihsanullah - takes the wicket of the Pakistan skipper and then gets the chance to have his picture taken with him <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL8?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL8</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MSvPZ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MSvPZ</a> <a href="https://t.co/Hv5FGVcSvu">pic.twitter.com/Hv5FGVcSvu</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1626661439942320132?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 17, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Welcome to the friend’s zone Ihsan
 
Mohammad Haris on facing Ihsanullah (said in a jesty manner)

“The way ball was coming onto my bat, Ihsanullah is lucky to escape. I understand him since I have kept wickets to him. We play together in KPK team, so I had an idea what he would bowl next. I had planned for him, but unfortunately I was only able to face two deliveries from him"
 
MenInG said:
Mohammad Haris on facing Ihsanullah (said in a jesty manner)

“The way ball was coming onto my bat, Ihsanullah is lucky to escape. I understand him since I have kept wickets to him. We play together in KPK team, so I had an idea what he would bowl next. I had planned for him, but unfortunately I was only able to face two deliveries from him"
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Yeah boi!

Fire with Fire mentality!!
 
MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A day to remember for Ihsanullah - takes the wicket of the Pakistan skipper and then gets the chance to have his picture taken with him <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL8?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL8</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MSvPZ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MSvPZ</a> <a href="https://t.co/Hv5FGVcSvu">pic.twitter.com/Hv5FGVcSvu</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1626661439942320132?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 17, 2023</a></blockquote>
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This pic puts his age in to prospective looks really fresh faced compared to Babar and Riz. Somewhere 22-23 looks the correct age.
 
Saj said:
10 wickets in 3 matches so far at the PSL.

Clearly a very good T20 bowler, however I want to see if he can become a good Test bowler.
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We should support him in getting to full fitness by not picking him for the national side just yet.

He also needs to work on his fielding.

Another season of domestic cricket will be more beneficial long term than picking him for the t20 side straight away.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Its stupid to think the likes of Naseem, Hasnain and Dahani can bowl in Test cricket, when they hardly play any meaningful first class cricket at home. A test-class bowler needs to put in the hard yards before he learns how to bowl long spells, these lads are running after money and only interested in playing pyjama leagues.
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That is the state of cricket these days so there's nothing wrong in players running after leagues. Money is important in a cricketer's life, more so in a Pakistani. There's no incentive to play Test matches and pick up a couple of thousand dollars per match when you can earn $100,000 or by playing 20-30 franchise cricket matches.

The incentive of legacy and recognition by playing Test cricket no longer holds any merit when you compare to the money that is being offered in T20 these days.
 
Test cricket matters when England or Australia are in town but makes little indent when millions are at stake for bowling 4 overs.
 
shariqnoor said:
That is the state of cricket these days so there's nothing wrong in players running after leagues. Money is important in a cricketer's life, more so in a Pakistani. There's no incentive to play Test matches and pick up a couple of thousand dollars per match when you can earn $100,000 or by playing 20-30 franchise cricket matches.

The incentive of legacy and recognition by playing Test cricket no longer holds any merit when you compare to the money that is being offered in T20 these days.
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Well then don’t expect these bowlers to be any good in Test cricket. It’s just absolute nonsense to even think these bowlers, who have played way more T20 cricket than they will ever play first-class cricket, have any idea how to bowl to world class Test players.

There is a reason why the longest format of the game is still the toughest to crack and not many become good enough to master it.
 
Even though he clocks the same speed as Rauf , Hasnain , Naseem and peak Shaheen but he is actually a lot more quicker off the surface then all of them and the crazy lift with pace he gets is something unplayable on SENA surfaces
 
Muhammad Saad said:
He is around 25/26 which is still young
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He seems to be around 26, 27 alright. Issue is that would mean his learning curve won't be as sharp as someone who is a legitimate 20 year old and his career could well be over in another 6-7 years.

As long as PCB are aware and don't have unrealistic expectations, it'll be fine.
 
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