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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Ihsanullah - Another promising pacer from KPK

Of course PCB is to blame (they always make a mess) but also the player here made some mistakes. We all know fitness levels of Pak (domestic) players are poor and way below Int standards. Ihsanullah burst onto the scene during PSL and like many Pak pacers started playing non stop T20 cricket where ever the chance came up. Greed is what plays a huge role here.
 
He needs to get himself a lawyer a sue the f out of PCB.

The only reason why he’s probably playing through his injury is because he’s probably a 28 year old with a family to support.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
He needs to get himself a lawyer a sue the f out of PCB.

The only reason why he’s probably playing through his injury is because he’s probably a 28 year old with a family to support.
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Sue the hell out of this unprofessional and pathetic board

Playing with the livelihood of players
 
PCB destroyed an promising bowler’s career through it’s negligence and incompetence.This is nothing new.PCB has done this to numerous other players.It is a miracle that Pakistan team still quite competitive.If Pakistan had a proper board like England or Australia then it would have been one of the best sides.
 
Ihsanullah strikes for Peshawar in his first over against Lahore Whites in National T20 Cup 2025
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Age seems to have caught up with him
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May be or May be he didn’t recovered completely from the injury as he is still wearing that wrist band , BTW he did bowl one super quick delivery which hit Tayyab helmet and floored him down , easily 140k plus but on avg he is not bowling above 135k.

And most of these avg batters were clueless against his bouncers today which were not even quick that much.
 
one good thing about Ihsan is that be doesn’t lose much pace on his bouncers and short pitch stuff , his 135k bouncers comes much quicker to you than Hasnain and Shaheen 145 and 140k bouncers.

And when Ishan was fit and bowling 150k then his bouncers were even quicker than Mark wood 155k bouncers off the pitch.
 
Ihsanullah has joined the Peshawar Zalmi squad as he was previously seen in the team’s kit. His arrival adds an unexpected twist to Peshawar Zalmi’s PSL 10 campaign

As the 10th edition of the Pakistan Super League has arrived with unreal thrills, Peshawar Zalmi has given a massive twist before stepping onto the big stage. Even before their first match, they’ve made headlines by signing a Pakistani bowling star for the season, adding firepower to their squad.

Ihsanullah Joins Peshawar Zalmi Squad​

Pakistani bowler Ihsanullah is a big name in Pakistan’s domestic circuit. The bowler made headlines after having a blasting season in PSL 2023. After facing a long injury setback, his previous team, Multan Sultans, didn’t draft him for the upcoming season.

That move made a dramatic turn, as Ihsanullah announced his retirement from the tournament, but later on, he reversed his decision. But a speculation caught the air after fans spotted him in the Peshawar Zalmi kit and joined the squad. Now, the team has finally put all rumors to rest.
 
Ihsanullah speaking during an interview:

About not getting to play a single match in PSL:

“I’ve had a good journey with Peshawar Zalmi. I’ve played a couple of matches in PSL before and performed well. This year, although I was dealing with an injury, they still picked me in the Silver Category, for which I’m thankful. What you’re seeing now is the same Ehsanullah. I’m still bowling consistently at 90 to 95 mph, just like before. After the first three matches, Coach evaluated my pace—I was clocking between 90 to 95 mph, but it didn’t go beyond that.”
 
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Ihsanullah speaking during an interview:

About not getting to play a single match in PSL:

“I’ve had a good journey with Peshawar Zalmi. I’ve played a couple of matches in PSL before and performed well. This year, although I was dealing with an injury, they still picked me in the Silver Category, for which I’m thankful. What you’re seeing now is the same Ehsanullah. I’m still bowling consistently at 90 to 95 mph, just like before. After the first three matches, Coach evaluated my pace—I was clocking between 90 to 95 mph, but it didn’t go beyond that.”
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Sadly he is finished. Another talent totally wasted by useless medics and a board that doesn't know what it's assets are. What a waste
 
Such arrogance with a busted elbow? His career is going nowhere and he already played his last game for Pakistan.
 
Need to get his head down and concentrate on domestic cricket rather than making stupid statements.
 
Happy birthday to fast bowler Ihsanullah

He has represented Pakistan in one ODI and four T20Is, and took a wicket with his first delivery in international cricket
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Ihsanullah Comeback in BPL:

3 Overs
4 NB
40 Runs

Welcome to Haris Rauf academy buddy
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PCB did a good job to ruin his career.I don’t know his injury has affected his elbow or how much cricket he played after he recovered from injury.If he had been an English or Australian player they would have developed him into a good bowler.Let us see how he performs.This was his first match.
 
The fact he can still bowl 137k is not a bad sign, also with some swing. He’s obviously rusty. If he works hard and has the right support, no reason he can’t be a contender.
 
TheSultan said:
The fact he can still bowl 137k is not a bad sign, also with some swing. He’s obviously rusty. If he works hard and has the right support, no reason he can’t be a contender.
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Structural limitations.... he has lost something foundational to what made him unique
 
The guy is always on Tiktok asking for money and playing battles with people. He's probably made a decent amount already and might get a hair transplant with it as he's already lost the frontal at the tender age of 23.
 
He went north of 140 and got awkward bounce on some deliveries.Looks like he still has some steam but needs to get his act together
 
m.shah said:
He is mentally unfit. He will never make it
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I have no idea about any of that, I’m just following his bowling.

From what I see, there is definitely something there to work with.

And even if he’s mentally not all there, a fast bowler with a screw loose may not be the worst thing in the world. It’s a heck of a lot better than the smiley guys and kiss blowers we have.
 
TheSultan said:
I have no idea about any of that, I’m just following his bowling.

From what I see, there is definitely something there to work with.

And even if he’s mentally not all there, a fast bowler with a screw loose may not be the worst thing in the world. It’s a heck of a lot better than the smiley guys and kiss blowers we have.
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Screw loose ?

You need to see the video of him and where his hands were touching saim ayub .
 
He still has some pace and bowled some decent deliveries considering he's barely played any cricket last couple of years.

My question would be if he is healthy, why haven't PCB tried to get him playing in domestic cricket and rehab him to see if he can be 80% of the bowler he used to be. If he can improve his control, that would still give him ample tools to be a useful bowler with his height, pace & better control if he can get there. Disappointing how PCB treats its own player. Completing discarding them like they're worthless.
 
mazkhan said:
Screw loose ?

You need to see the video of him and where his hands were touching saim ayub .
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Lol Bro honestly, I don’t follow these guys that closely in their personal lives.

That does sound very weird, but I’m just judging some of his overs I saw.
 
When he made his debut I was very excited. It's an damn shame what happened to him. Is there any hope he can return back to this level?

 
This guy was the real deal. More than PCB, it is the unprofessional, fantasy culture that destroys players. They think that their body will remain intact under the delusion of youth as they get older , and then get a shock when it does not.

All the basics are haphazard in the culture, starting with diet, exercise, & sleep. Pak seriously needs cadet college life style for early childhood development. I am getting sick of seeing so many gifted people wasting their opportunities.
 
Madplayer said:
Imagine him and Shaheen bowling in tandem in test matches. Two 6'5+ Imposing figures coming at you. A scary sight for any opposition.
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That’s not how things work anymore, protection means batsman will take on fast bowlers
Shaheens test stats are average ant outstanding
 
His first two overs in today BPL match were a delight to watch.

Beautiful swing bowling and even touched 145kph. Still has that lethal bouncer
 
He is back mashallah. i don't care about experience he is miles better than Rauf, Naseem and Waseem. Wow him and Salman mirza will make lethal combo! He looked very dangerous and had a great control which is a great sign. Before his injury, he was looking lethal like Akhtar, waqar and Wasim. Its unfortunate PCB ruined him but hopefully he can bring some of his magic back.
 
Dont think his body at this stage can handle the pressure of INT cricket. Classic exmaple of how to ruin a good prospect.

All the so called ex players with their big mouths on tv 24/7, but none of them does a thing.

This was a guy they should have taken under their wings and guided on all levels from training to diet.

Just hope for him he stays with and can earn some good money playing T20s.
 
Watched a few clips of him in the BPL, if the clueless management had any sense, he’d be wrapped in cotton wool & made to work in the academy with people who know what they are doing and put on fast track to return to the international level. His bowling still got zip which is a miracle in itself for Pak player returning from injury, there is no one else in Pak that can generate bounce like that at a decent chip. Certainly needs to focus more on his fitness & playing red ball cricket.
 
shaz619 said:
Watched a few clips of him in the BPL, if the clueless management had any sense, he’d be wrapped in cotton wool & made to work in the academy with people who know what they are doing and put on fast track to return to the international level. His bowling still got zip which is a miracle in itself for Pak player returning from injury, there is no one else in Pak that can generate bounce like that at a decent chip. Certainly needs to focus more on his fitness & playing red ball cricket.
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naa, he is a loud mouth with no brains and might be a pedophile.

I think PCB has decided to stay away from him.
 
TheSultan said:
I have no idea about any of that, I’m just following his bowling.

From what I see, there is definitely something there to work with.

And even if he’s mentally not all there, a fast bowler with a screw loose may not be the worst thing in the world. It’s a heck of a lot better than the smiley guys and kiss blowers we have.
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Agreed, I am watching the clips now, I rated him highly based on the tools he possessed and saw him as a guy Pakistan could really work with closely & make him a regular member of the team. He barely has any experience, and hasn’t completely regressed post injury, there’s a decent ceiling here & gap he can fill in the bowling attack.
 
Major said:
naa, he is a loud mouth with no brains and might be a pedophile.

I think PCB has decided to stay away from him.
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I don’t know about his personal life or the people he abused 1:1, but he’s the closest thing to say a potential Morne Morkel for Pakistan based on his attributes.
 
shaz619 said:
Watched a few clips of him in the BPL, if the clueless management had any sense, he’d be wrapped in cotton wool & made to work in the academy with people who know what they are doing and put on fast track to return to the international level. His bowling still got zip which is a miracle in itself for Pak player returning from injury, there is no one else in Pak that can generate bounce like that at a decent chip. Certainly needs to focus more on his fitness & playing red ball cricket.
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PCB and logical doesn’t go together. Ihsanullah is not sharp guy though so not sure anything can help him.
 
shaz619 said:
I don’t know about his personal life or the people he abused 1:1, but he’s the closest thing to say a potential Morne Morkel for Pakistan based on his attributes.
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These patwari will defend looters but wil go after a cricketer. He has not done any match fixing at least.
But yes he is not very sharp guy mentally but again its the job of the board to work on him , who know he might get better.
 
Only his first match after a long delay but here are some observations

1. He isn't express anymore even though he can still hit 90 miles as per the PCB speed gun.
2. The action looks less smooth than before & follow up isn't as strong as earlier.
3. He is still exciting enough to play PSL or domestic cricket but he needs to prove his form to be selected again.
4. Not sure if he can be express again. He needs to adapt to his lower than before speed as he won't be able to bounce people out anymore.
5. My recommendation will be to get him some proper medical care. Even if he is hitting max 145, he still has height & with more confidence may be able to bowl better.
6. Skill improvement with proper coaching is the way forward. We may be able to get something out of him if he's treated properly.

All in all, good to see him back. Got me excited enough to follow the match a bit. Him, Raza, and Akif need to be treated like prime assets in an otherwise abysmal fast bowling talent pool.
 
GoUgandaCranes said:
Only his first match after a long delay but here are some observations

1. He isn't express anymore even though he can still hit 90 miles as per the PCB speed gun.
2. The action looks less smooth than before & follow up isn't as strong as earlier.
3. He is still exciting enough to play PSL or domestic cricket but he needs to prove his form to be selected again.
4. Not sure if he can be express again. He needs to adapt to his lower than before speed as he won't be able to bounce people out anymore.
5. My recommendation will be to get him some proper medical care. Even if he is hitting max 145, he still has height & with more confidence may be able to bowl better.
6. Skill improvement with proper coaching is the way forward. We may be able to get something out of him if he's treated properly.

All in all, good to see him back. Got me excited enough to follow the match a bit. Him, Raza, and Akif need to be treated like prime assets in an otherwise abysmal fast bowling talent pool.
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Great observation. I feel he will be alot better if given a run of even 3 to 4 games in this PSL. Domestic 4 day cricket is essential if he wants to get back his form and fitness under supervision of top coaches
 
DRsohail said:
These patwari will defend looters but wil go after a cricketer. He has not done any match fixing at least.
But yes he is not very sharp guy mentally but again its the job of the board to work on him , who know he might get better.
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I hope he gets help, and I don't mean this in any kind of demeaning way. From what I've observed he seems to suffer from mental deficiencies. As you rightly said, its the job of the board to look after him. Especially since they have already had a major hand in destroying his career.
 
Looks like he’s well on the way to improving his fitness and performance. Obviously the more he plays the better he will be. Sometimes it’s good to slowly develop you stamina and strength in domestic games before rushing into international competitions
 
GoUgandaCranes said:
Only his first match after a long delay but here are some observations

1. He isn't express anymore even though he can still hit 90 miles as per the PCB speed gun.
2. The action looks less smooth than before & follow up isn't as strong as earlier.
3. He is still exciting enough to play PSL or domestic cricket but he needs to prove his form to be selected again.
4. Not sure if he can be express again. He needs to adapt to his lower than before speed as he won't be able to bounce people out anymore.
5. My recommendation will be to get him some proper medical care. Even if he is hitting max 145, he still has height & with more confidence may be able to bowl better.
6. Skill improvement with proper coaching is the way forward. We may be able to get something out of him if he's treated properly.

All in all, good to see him back. Got me excited enough to follow the match a bit. Him, Raza, and Akif need to be treated like prime assets in an otherwise abysmal fast bowling talent pool.
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The fast/medium pool is not abysmal but yes it needs care and attention.

I think there are some genuine express bowlers. And good line and length bowlers right now.
 
Abid Z said:
The fast/medium pool is not abysmal but yes it needs care and attention.

I think there are some genuine express bowlers. And good line and length bowlers right now.
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I used to think similar to what you think but that's not the case imo. Our pool in terms of fast bowling is poor & even BD has leapfrogged us. We may have volume but the quality is absolutely missing. Rauf, Shaheen, Nasim, Wasim, etc. won't make it to C teams of most test playing teams let alone the main team.
 
GoUgandaCranes said:
I used to think similar to what you think but that's not the case imo. Our pool in terms of fast bowling is poor & even BD has leapfrogged us. We may have volume but the quality is absolutely missing. Rauf, Shaheen, Nasim, Wasim, etc. won't make it to C teams of most test playing teams let alone the main team.
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I wasnt comparing to other teams. Just looking at Pak bowling over the last 10 years. There are a few genuine spin options so we only need 3 world class bowlers and the next tests are in uk. There is a fair gap between international teams but some of the younger lot really do look good. Isanullah, Ali Raza, akif, hunain/ubaid, abbas Afridi any one or two could develop and they really are putting pressure on SSA, abbas, Mir hamza, khurram shehzad.

Of course you have mirza, Wasim and MOHD Ali who I think are the 3 for strictly Odis.

Ten years ago we had imran khan Jnr sohail khan and some others that just were completely pedestrian.
 
Abid Z said:
I wasnt comparing to other teams. Just looking at Pak bowling over the last 10 years. There are a few genuine spin options so we only need 3 world class bowlers and the next tests are in uk. There is a fair gap between international teams but some of the younger lot really do look good. Isanullah, Ali Raza, akif, hunain/ubaid, abbas Afridi any one or two could develop and they really are putting pressure on SSA, abbas, Mir hamza, khurram shehzad.

Of course you have mirza, Wasim and MOHD Ali who I think are the 3 for strictly Odis.

Ten years ago we had imran khan Jnr sohail khan and some others that just were completely pedestrian.
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Sorry for derailing the thread that's about Ihsanullah but had to respond to this.

Ten years ago we had Wahab, Amir, a post ban Asif, Muhammad Irfan, pre injury Junaid, etc. who were all at the similar or slightly above level bowlers than the names that you have mentioned.

The champions trophy that we won had a really decent bowling attack where three bowlers in the bowling lineup were capable of hitting 90 mph (Pre injury Hassan Ali, Amir, & Wahab could hit 90 mph; Junaid, & Rumman Raees were capable medium pacers). We even had someone like Rahat Ali who wasn't good in the field or with the bat but was an average bowler who could hold up an end.

We also had a phase around 2018/19 where we had 4 or so bowlers that could hit 150 kph & more. Rauf, Shaheen, Naseem, & Hasnain and we all know how that story unfolded. Even Ihsanullah and Dahani hit 150 and unknown names like Dilbar Hussain came out of nowhere & were extremely quick.

THe problem is that we simply do not have bowlers who sustain their pace or presence once they make it. The red ball bowler cupboard is completely empty for both pacers and spinners. Not a single bowler able to sustain 140 kph as we saw in South Africa.

In terms of white ball, the downfall of Shaheen has exaggerated our problems. Akif, Ihsanullah, Raza, Abbas, Wasim, etc. have done nothing to show that they will cement the place for the next 4-5 years. All of them are either underweight or overweight with injury concerns. Wasim too has lost his pace going down from 145+ to barely hitting 140. Akif has shown no sign of improvement in the last 3 years & continues to have runup issues.

There's a small hope in me that someone will click but based on the patterns, it is more probable that they'll just not be able to set up for the next level.
 
GoUgandaCranes said:
Sorry for derailing the thread that's about Ihsanullah but had to respond to this.

Ten years ago we had Wahab, Amir, a post ban Asif, Muhammad Irfan, pre injury Junaid, etc. who were all at the similar or slightly above level bowlers than the names that you have mentioned.

The champions trophy that we won had a really decent bowling attack where three bowlers in the bowling lineup were capable of hitting 90 mph (Pre injury Hassan Ali, Amir, & Wahab could hit 90 mph; Junaid, & Rumman Raees were capable medium pacers). We even had someone like Rahat Ali who wasn't good in the field or with the bat but was an average bowler who could hold up an end.

We also had a phase around 2018/19 where we had 4 or so bowlers that could hit 150 kph & more. Rauf, Shaheen, Naseem, & Hasnain and we all know how that story unfolded. Even Ihsanullah and Dahani hit 150 and unknown names like Dilbar Hussain came out of nowhere & were extremely quick.

THe problem is that we simply do not have bowlers who sustain their pace or presence once they make it. The red ball bowler cupboard is completely empty for both pacers and spinners. Not a single bowler able to sustain 140 kph as we saw in South Africa.

In terms of white ball, the downfall of Shaheen has exaggerated our problems. Akif, Ihsanullah, Raza, Abbas, Wasim, etc. have done nothing to show that they will cement the place for the next 4-5 years. All of them are either underweight or overweight with injury concerns. Wasim too has lost his pace going down from 145+ to barely hitting 140. Akif has shown no sign of improvement in the last 3 years & continues to have runup issues.

There's a small hope in me that someone will click but based on the patterns, it is more probable that they'll just not be able to set up for the next level.
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Agreed, 10 years ago we had much better bowlers who can actually sustain their pace in Test matches but currently the bowlers don’t have that stamina nor any significant pace either.
 
GoUgandaCranes said:
Sorry for derailing the thread that's about Ihsanullah but had to respond to this.

Ten years ago we had Wahab, Amir, a post ban Asif, Muhammad Irfan, pre injury Junaid, etc. who were all at the similar or slightly above level bowlers than the names that you have mentioned.

The champions trophy that we won had a really decent bowling attack where three bowlers in the bowling lineup were capable of hitting 90 mph (Pre injury Hassan Ali, Amir, & Wahab could hit 90 mph; Junaid, & Rumman Raees were capable medium pacers). We even had someone like Rahat Ali who wasn't good in the field or with the bat but was an average bowler who could hold up an end.

We also had a phase around 2018/19 where we had 4 or so bowlers that could hit 150 kph & more. Rauf, Shaheen, Naseem, & Hasnain and we all know how that story unfolded. Even Ihsanullah and Dahani hit 150 and unknown names like Dilbar Hussain came out of nowhere & were extremely quick.

THe problem is that we simply do not have bowlers who sustain their pace or presence once they make it. The red ball bowler cupboard is completely empty for both pacers and spinners. Not a single bowler able to sustain 140 kph as we saw in South Africa.

In terms of white ball, the downfall of Shaheen has exaggerated our problems. Akif, Ihsanullah, Raza, Abbas, Wasim, etc. have done nothing to show that they will cement the place for the next 4-5 years. All of them are either underweight or overweight with injury concerns. Wasim too has lost his pace going down from 145+ to barely hitting 140. Akif has shown no sign of improvement in the last 3 years & continues to have runup issues.

There's a small hope in me that someone will click but based on the patterns, it is more probable that they'll just not be able to set up for the next level.
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You are not derailing the thread. Infact you are highlighting something central. It doesn’t matter how good or fast one bowler is like ISANULLA what matters is the composition of the attack between all three formats. In 2016 yes you had the bowlers you mention. Asif and Amir were a shadow of their previous selves. (I don’t think Asif did make a comeback). We had a habit of grinding the same bowlers into the ground junaid was finished. SSA wasn’t there husnain had work to do and still does. But we didn’t have 3 bowling attacks. We had 1 bowling attack playing three formats and got slapped around. 2017 CT was an exception and Amir and Hasan Ali were the key performers but just couldn’t sustain it. It was naturally going to be downhill.

Nevertheless today we can identify 3 distinct mediocre squads. Of those 3 squads if we have a couple of express pacers alongside 3-4 mystery spinners and some all rounders. I think it’s an improvement. Not world class but a step in the right direction.

Red ball cupboard is definitely bare but given that it’s in ENGLAND you only really need two really good seamers and a couple of good spinners and/or all rounders.
 
Abid Z said:
You are not derailing the thread. Infact you are highlighting something central. It doesn’t matter how good or fast one bowler is like ISANULLA what matters is the composition of the attack between all three formats. In 2016 yes you had the bowlers you mention. Asif and Amir were a shadow of their previous selves. (I don’t think Asif did make a comeback). We had a habit of grinding the same bowlers into the ground junaid was finished. SSA wasn’t there husnain had work to do and still does. But we didn’t have 3 bowling attacks. We had 1 bowling attack playing three formats and got slapped around. 2017 CT was an exception and Amir and Hasan Ali were the key performers but just couldn’t sustain it. It was naturally going to be downhill.

Nevertheless today we can identify 3 distinct mediocre squads. Of those 3 squads if we have a couple of express pacers alongside 3-4 mystery spinners and some all rounders. I think it’s an improvement. Not world class but a step in the right direction.

Red ball cupboard is definitely bare but given that it’s in ENGLAND you only really need two really good seamers and a couple of good spinners and/or all rounders.
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Next ODI world cup is in South Africa and the T20 world cup is in NZ/Aus. (I can be wrong, this is from memory).

Our red ball team is cooked for England tests. Last test we played outside of Pak we had Mir Hamza and Abbas (they both found it hard to breach 130) and Khurram who cannot stay fit for 2 let alone 3 consecutive tests.

The white ball squad cannot have a functional attack outside of Asian conditions if it relies on spin. The mystery spinners won't both play at the same time because they do not even know which end of the bat to hold. This means that one of them will play along with Saim/Maaz/Shadab/Nawaz type fillers who are neither here nor there in terms of cricketing ability.

The white ball all rounder of choice is Fahim who is a nothing bowler and an even nothing batter. The backup is Abbas Afridi, Amir Jamal, Ahmed Daniyal, & Hussain Talat and they are all bang on mediocre in terms of bowling.

That leaves the spot for at max two out and out bowlers and one of them is Shaheen because he captains the ODI squad. The last place goes to one of the tried and tested failures in Rauf, Wasim, & Nasim. If you get someone like Ali Raza, Akif, or Ihsanullah then you are taking a risk as they all have considerable flaws & haven't really made a strong case to be selected. I say this as a fan of these three but they all aren't knocking at the door let even trying to put it down.

Pak Shaheens had a chance to play against England Lions and the skill gap in the bowling was immense & eye opening. English bowlers were faster, more consistent, & also able to sustain the pressure. An Akif for example would start the match with one good over and then become a spray gun in his second. Another guy Salman or something was just belted around with no respect & Daniyal etc. left no mark.

We have a systematic issue with our bowlers & not all blame can be thrown at PCB here. Abbas Afridi has visibly gotten heavier. You cannot look at Shaheen or Ali Raza and say they are premium athletes and get paid half a million dollars every year for playing cricket. Ali Raza played the PJL as a 14/15 year old and there is zero improvement in his frame. This frame cannot handle the stress of a season of international cricket.

Pakistan neither bat well against pace anymore and nor are they showing ability to bowl hostile pace for the up and coming challenges. The top 6 countries have 8-10 fast bowling options while we are struggling to put 3 in the team. NZ can supply their premium bowlers to both PSL and IPL and still have O Rourke, Tickner, & Nathan Ellis in their team facing BD. I can't even count how many 140+ bowlers are available to Australia, England, South Africa, & India. So many of these are not just spray guns but proper bowlers who also maintain their pace in test cricket.

Our bowling talent, & I'll go back to my original statement, is abysmal in comparison to rest of the world. Our white ball team is still mid table & can win against most teams barring India but if the current trajectory continues, we will be overtaken by mid level teams (BD, WI, Sri Lanka, & Zim)
 
Ihsanullah is walking down the road of umar akmal ..

Boy has talent but he just ruined himself by getting involved in useless side gigs.... Sad
 
Abid Z said:
You are not derailing the thread. Infact you are highlighting something central. It doesn’t matter how good or fast one bowler is like ISANULLA what matters is the composition of the attack between all three formats. In 2016 yes you had the bowlers you mention. Asif and Amir were a shadow of their previous selves. (I don’t think Asif did make a comeback). We had a habit of grinding the same bowlers into the ground junaid was finished. SSA wasn’t there husnain had work to do and still does. But we didn’t have 3 bowling attacks. We had 1 bowling attack playing three formats and got slapped around. 2017 CT was an exception and Amir and Hasan Ali were the key performers but just couldn’t sustain it. It was naturally going to be downhill.

Nevertheless today we can identify 3 distinct mediocre squads. Of those 3 squads if we have a couple of express pacers alongside 3-4 mystery spinners and some all rounders. I think it’s an improvement. Not world class but a step in the right direction.

Red ball cupboard is definitely bare but given that it’s in ENGLAND you only really need two really good seamers and a couple of good spinners and/or all rounders.
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Disagree with that last bit. Spin has increasingly become irrelevant in England in recent times.

You need an exceptional spinner like a Nathan Lyon to make an impact on those pitches or at least bowl long overs with control . Or you need a spin allrounder who can give you enough overs but also lengthen your batting lineup.

You are actually better off playing 4 seamers or you can maybe play a spinner if you have 3 quicks + a decent seam allrounder to bat at #7.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Disagree with that last bit. Spin has increasingly become irrelevant in England in recent times.

You need an exceptional spinner like a Nathan Lyon to make an impact on those pitches or at least bowl long overs with control . Or you need a spin allrounder who can give you enough overs but also lengthen your batting lineup.

You are actually better off playing 4 seamers or you can maybe play a spinner if you have 3 quicks + a decent seam allrounder to bat at #7.
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Erm ..on spin ..in July /August spin is actually quite handy in uk. Yes Lyon is good even Indian spinners last year were good. I think Abrar will be better than he is in Pakistan. Yasir shah was not bad. Salman and Nawaz can definitely hold a bat plus Noman and Sajid are far from ordinary.

Just a couple of good medium pacers plus an all rounder. I think there are options.
 
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