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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Is Mohammad Rizwan currently the world's best batter?

Bewal Express said:
Just a little criticism that I had since the England tour in 2020, he stands too far back. This has a duel impact- some catches don't carry and it deflates the bowler
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But that should give him more time to catch the ones he has caught.
 
Another unlucky dismissal today. That's 4 out of his last 4.

He is batting sublimely but when will he capitalise on this form?

So far his ODI career has been underwhelming and these returns should actually be pretty disappointing for him.
 
hitthestump said:
Another unlucky dismissal today. That's 4 out of his last 4.

He is batting sublimely but when will he capitalise on this form?

So far his ODI career has been underwhelming and these returns should actually be pretty disappointing for him.
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I don't believe his ODI career is lackluster. He's performing admirably across all formats. Just take a look at his statistics which clearly speak for his achievements.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
I don't believe his ODI career is lackluster. He's performing admirably across all formats. Just take a look at his statistics which clearly speak for his achievements.
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I don’t think his ODI career is great and he can do better. But the guys advocating for Sarfraz, Kamran etc., Rizwan has better batting stats despite underperforming and far better keeping. We were told as a fan base to accept worse keeping for their batting. Now the keeping is way better, and we don’t accept the better keeping for similar (or better) batting? Doesn’t make sense.

I get calls for Haris, the guy has potential and could be something better (Azam’s keeping and fitness doesn’t excite me). But atm this is a guy who averages 14 and 9 in t20s and ODIs respectively. If Haris can become a mainstay in t20 team, then we should seriously consider him for an ODI spot.
 
Rizwan needs to stop getting run out. I said this last time as well and many people disagreed with me. This is now the 4th time in a row of run outs. Luck and unlucky isn't consistent, if he's consistently getting run out, then that's not him being unlucky.
 
shamaan said:
He proberly standing that far back due to what pace the pakistan bowlers are bowling at.I haven't seen many catches drop short unless you have ?
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I have seen a few and in England it was obvious and I think some of the commies have realised this
 
yes indeed rizwan is one of the best wicketkeeping batsman but dont know what happened to his wicketkeeping ability. Whenever the ball makes contact with his hands he begins to flick his wrist.
 
Another brilliant performance today. The rona dhona was beautiful to witness in the match thread whilst Rizwan quietly went about his business :ROFLMAO:
 
In terms of Rizwan being the best batsmen - he is certainly up there, but he’s not even the best batsmen in Pakistan !

Nice to see him finding consistent performances in ODI’s too apart from T20’s. He now needs a few centuries to his name as I think the last century he had was when Mikey was head coach against Australia just before the previous World Cup. Two in a row. He was subsequently dropped for Sarfaraz (as I think he was captain ? )

Anyways hopefully he’s found his mojo in ODI’s and put his doubters to rest.

Don’t think Rizwan has that X factor with his batting, but he’s pretty consistent and deserves to be in the team regardless of any friendships he has.

Main concern is that our top 4, while consistent, (bar fakhar these days) all play the same way so it’s hard for us to take the game away from the opposition in the first 20 overs.

But I’ll take this + we have a good bowling unit which gives us a pretty balanced side and ready to compete with any team.
 
What a player. He's performing according to whatever the team requires of him. I wouldn't mind promoting him further up to 3 and having Babar at 4. The thought of Babar still to bat can play on the minds of the opposition and can instill more confidence in the top 3.
 
Imo, with fakhar out of form, Rizwan should open with imam and Babar at no 3.

No 4 saud, no 5 tayyab, 6 and 7 can be chacha and shadab with 4 pacers at the back end.

If spinners are needed then slot in imad waseem at 7 and push shadab at 8 to strength the batting.
 
Mornie Morkel on bowling to Rizwan in the nets in today's press conference:

"Rizwan asked me to to bowl a couple of balls with a tape tennis ball to him for that extra bit of swing and that's a way that I can serve the team; I think for me it's always important to bring your knowledge to the fast-bowlers but also what can I do to make this team go a little bit better, how can I help them to prepare slightly better and if that means that you know I have to bowl a little bit in the nets it's good fun for me, it's good fitness and then there's a couple of Legend Leagues also around the corner so I can maybe get a gig there!"
 
hassan918 said:
Mornie Morkel on bowling to Rizwan in the nets in today's press conference:

"Rizwan asked me to to bowl a couple of balls with a tape tennis ball to him for that extra bit of swing and that's a way that I can serve the team; I think for me it's always important to bring your knowledge to the fast-bowlers but also what can I do to make this team go a little bit better, how can I help them to prepare slightly better and if that means that you know I have to bowl a little bit in the nets it's good fun for me, it's good fitness and then there's a couple of Legend Leagues also around the corner so I can maybe get a gig there!"
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Preparing with a tape ball for hard ball cricket
 
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hassan918 said:
Mornie Morkel on bowling to Rizwan in the nets in today's press conference:

"Rizwan asked me to to bowl a couple of balls with a tape tennis ball to him for that extra bit of swing and that's a way that I can serve the team; I think for me it's always important to bring your knowledge to the fast-bowlers but also what can I do to make this team go a little bit better, how can I help them to prepare slightly better and if that means that you know I have to bowl a little bit in the nets it's good fun for me, it's good fitness and then there's a couple of Legend Leagues also around the corner so I can maybe get a gig there!"
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Who bowls tennis balls in nets 😂😂, what kind of logic is this? Bowl with the test pink ball thay tends to swing more if rizwan wants swing practise lol.
 
CerebralPatriot said:
@mominsaigol seems like quite a knowledgeable poster so I have no idea how he can make such an outlandish statement
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Maybe he knows the game better than many others?

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CerebralPatriot said:
@mominsaigol seems like quite a knowledgeable poster so I have no idea how he can make such an outlandish statement
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Oh, this was my first post, I wanted to see reactions and opinions from others. I don't believe he's the worlds best, I wanted to see what posters thought since Ik many believe Kohli is below Babar and Rizwan truly is no 1 and an ATG.
 
73/2 When Rizwan came in, stayed on until Pak 252/7

Amazing for his confidence.

His fitness was brilliant in the way he took those ones and 2s also
 
CerebralPatriot said:
@mominsaigol seems like quite a knowledgeable poster so I have no idea how he can make such an outlandish statement
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Here's the thing as well. Anytime I have analysed something, 90% of the time I am proven right.

Rizwan and chacha have been the only exception and that's because their so inconsistent.

I have seen rizwan handle quality bowling of bunrah and played brilliant match winning knocks like the one today, but I have also seen him play match losing knocks like the last Asia cup against sl, and play like a complete tail ender against average bowling.

He's so inconsistent, it messes up my analysis.

Regardless my original stance does not change. Fakhar, Imam, Babar and rizwan

All 4 of these guys cannot play, we need 2 accumulators and not 4. So if you want to keep babar and rizwan sure. But all 4 can't occupy the Top slots.

It needs to be mixed with saim ayub for striking along with saud in the middle to handle spin because rizwan played like a champ but he did look clueless against spin early on same with babar, something Abdullah and saud do not struggle with.

But as I said, keep 2 accumulators, not 4.
 
hassan918 said:
He ain't the best but he is mighty effective and his innings today against Sri Lanka is a prove of this.
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He did well, tbf the pitch became easier to bat on but that doesn't discredit his performance today.
 
If Rizwan tameez se batted at 6 or 7 I wouldn’t have a problem with him. We need a better no4. A proper batsman, not a glorified late order hack
 
If only he was braver in his innings - we would have won this match. Lesson, don’t play for yourself
 
Mohammad Rizwan retained by Comilla Victorians, for the 2024 edition of BPL. What are your thoughts on how Rizwan will perform in the 2024 edition of BPL?
 
I feel that Rizwan went from being overrated by Pakistani fans to massively underrated.

He’s a good wicket keeper. He has incredible bat speed, solid reflexes, and grit. His game certainly has some technical deficiencies which become really evident when he’s trying to score quickly near the end of innings but he’s the best we have. And he’s the best wicket keeper batsmen we have had in a long time.
 
160KPH said:
I feel that Rizwan went from being overrated by Pakistani fans to massively underrated.

He’s a good wicket keeper. He has incredible bat speed, solid reflexes, and grit. His game certainly has some technical deficiencies which become really evident when he’s trying to score quickly near the end of innings but he’s the best we have. And he’s the best wicket keeper batsmen we have had in a long time.
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Massively underrated?

Who are the top 10 keeper bats in the world in total honesty?
 
Rana said:
Massively underrated?

Who are the top 10 keeper bats in the world in total honesty?
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For last 2 years or so, I will say Jos Buttler
Rizwan
De kock
rishab pant I guess should be in the list as well.
 
Rana said:
So right now, Rizwan is number 2?

Isn’t that overrating him?
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Yes for me he the there in the top 3. He has been brilliant in whiteball format in recent times. I will keep him on my list for sure. What do you have in mind?
 
BouncerGuy said:
Yes for me he the there in the top 3. He has been brilliant in whiteball format in recent times. I will keep him on my list for sure. What do you have in mind?
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You’ve seen mines. It’s pretty honest

He doesn’t make the top 5
 
hassan918 said:
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Honestly considering his stunts he pulls regarding drama bazi with faking injuries, running between the wickets like a suicidal monkey, and always having issues with the side screen, he will make one hell of a bollywood actor.

They should cast him for a 3 idiots reboot. I'm sure he'd play a killer rancho.
 
In ODI he still needs to prove his worth but in T20Is, he stands out as one of the top batsmen.
 
Cricketing talent around the world needs to go down to its absolute nadir before someone like Rizwan becomes the best batsman.

He is a good batsman, nothing more.
In ODI's this is his first good year and here too he didn't have much impact.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Cricketing talent around the world needs to go down to its absolute nadir before someone like Rizwan becomes the best batsman.

He is a good batsman, nothing more.
In ODI's this is his first good year and here too he didn't have much impact.
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He's in excellent form and perhaps in this World Cup he could score more runs due to the pitches being highly suitable to his batting style.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
He's in excellent form and perhaps in this World Cup he could score more runs due to the pitches being highly suitable to his batting style.
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I think he has definitely improved in odis considering he used to avg in 20s last year, he has had a good year but mostly faced second string attacks, failed in Asia cup which was the most important tourney of this year till now.
I dont think he will be a big factor this world cup, Fakhar,Imam and Babar are the threee batsman whoch I think will make the most impact, Chacha might play a couple of impact knocks too
 
Skill and ability will only matter when you perform consistently. If a player is performing consistently but has an unorthodox style then I will prefer that player over that player who has the skills and stylish shots but is never consistent.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Skill and ability will only matter when you perform consistently. If a player is performing consistently but has an unorthodox style then I will prefer that player over that player who has the skills and stylish shots but is never consistent.
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Skill and ability matter when you perform ‘when it really matters’

Consistently scoring soft runs at a below standard doesn’t mean you are better than those who come through when the chips are down.
 
My current ranking of Pakistani keepers is as follows:
1. Sarfraz
2. Azam Khan
Daylight
3. Haseebullah
4. Haris
5. Rizwan
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
I think he has definitely improved in odis considering he used to avg in 20s last year, he has had a good year but mostly faced second string attacks, failed in Asia cup which was the most important tourney of this year till now.
I dont think he will be a big factor this world cup, Fakhar,Imam and Babar are the threee batsman whoch I think will make the most impact, Chacha might play a couple of impact knocks too
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Impact & Imam don't go hand to hand 😄, they are antonyms. You are right about Fakhar, Babar & Iftekhar though. If Pak were to archive anything substantial in batting these are the guys potentially will make difference. Specially, an in form Fakhar will immediately lift the moral of the team 10 times more. When he is on song, it makes life easier for Imam, Babar & Rizwan to construct. He is the only one who can potentially make differences between 280-300 to 320-350 & above. I have never seen Pak struggling whenever this guy has performed big, you can't claim that for any of his colleagues.
 
Well We'll see how rizwan performs in the warmup game tmr again 1st string NZ
 
Rana said:
InshaAllah there will be an even balance between bat and ball

And the frauds exposed in this year’s World Cup
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How many times more they need to be exposed? Three back to back tournaments aren't enough?
 
VForVendetta said:
How many times more they need to be exposed? Three back to back tournaments aren't enough?
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As many times as it takes. Those who will not see the light, will never see it. But the truth needs to keep manifesting, and justice will InshaAllah prevail
 
The reality was exposed in the T20 World Cup, and I have firm faith the truth will once prevail in this World Cup
 
Rana said:
He fancies NZ bowlers tbf

It’s the others that expose him
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Theirs a whole world cup to be played, a match against Australia warm up is also coming up. To be completly honest I'll be sad if babar stick to the formula In a game where stat padding isn't applicable and all 15 players can play.
 
TheSultan said:
If Rizwan tameez se batted at 6 or 7 I wouldn’t have a problem with him. We need a better no4. A proper batsman, not a glorified late order hack
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Ik this is a late reply, but when rizwan use to bat at 6 or 7 he was a complete and total failure.

Misbah shoved him to opening and that's where the drama happened. Rizwan is an accumulator, he can and won't ever function at 6 or 7.
 
BouncerGuy said:
For last 2 years or so, I will say Jos Buttler
Rizwan
De kock
rishab pant I guess should be in the list as well.
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If this is a serious post. Rizwan is nowhere near as good as Buttler, Pant and etc.
 
Mamoon said:
There are at least 5 WK batsmen better than Rizwan in India alone.
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Nearly all countries have 2 or more keepers better than Rizwan

England: Butler, Bairstow, Salt,

South Africa: DeQock, Klaasen

Australia: Carey, Wade

New Zealand: Conway, Phillips, Siefert

Bangladesh: Mushfiq, Liton Das

Sri Lanka: Mendis, Kusal Perera

India: Rahul, Pant, Samson, Kishan

I am 100% convinced all of these guys are better than Rizwan in the art of Keeper/Batsman

Don’t anyone try tell me they are not and Rizwan is actually one of the best in the world!
 
Mamoon said:
There are at least 5 WK batsmen better than Rizwan in India alone.
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Not just in India but Pakistan too. Sarfraz, Haseebullah, Azam Khan and Haris are all superior to him with the bat by some distance too. In fact I'll go off a limb and say that if Rizwan Hussain, Zeeshan Ashraf and Mohammad Akhlaq all got the backing Rizwan did than they would end up being superior to him
 
IF he is AS good as his supporters claim, should be easy to prove in this World Cup when it matters.

Truth is Babar and Rizwan are so used to feasting on 2nd string attacks that they might actually struggle in this World Cup.

Obviously Netherlands, Bangladesh, Afghanistan might offer them a chance to stat it up.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
IF he is AS good as his supporters claim, should be easy to prove in this World Cup when it matters.

Truth is Babar and Rizwan are so used to feasting on 2nd string attacks that they might actually struggle in this World Cup.

Obviously Netherlands, Bangladesh, Afghanistan might offer them a chance to stat it up.
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Those 3 teams you mentioned

They will try to remain not out in them to boost averages for the rest of the tournament
 
Rana said:
Nearly all countries have 2 or more keepers better than Rizwan

England: Butler, Bairstow, Salt,

South Africa: DeQock, Klaasen

Australia: Carey, Wade

New Zealand: Conway, Phillips, Siefert

Bangladesh: Mushfiq, Liton Das

Sri Lanka: Mendis, Kusal Perera

India: Rahul, Pant, Samson, Kishan

I am 100% convinced all of these guys are better than Rizwan in the art of Keeper/Batsman

Don’t anyone try tell me they are not and Rizwan is actually one of the best in the world!
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Only disagree with Carey, the rest I agree with though.
 
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Rana said:
Carey is perfect for his role and won’t cry to the media to bat in Smith or Labushagne’s position

A guy who knows his role and shuts his mouth
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If you're talking about roles then that's fine. But in terms of batting he's clearly the weak link of the Australian batting line up.
 
mominsaigol said:
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If you're talking about roles then that's fine. But in terms of batting he's clearly the weak link of the Australian batting line up.
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That’s not true

Carey scored 375 runs at an average of 62.5 and a sr of 104 in the 2019 World Cup for Australia. To think that he has maintained his spot in the side and also the Test side 4 years on suggests that he is a good player, and the Aussies rate him.

He also is an excellent sweeper/reverse sweeper, and someone who can put on a partnership with a top order batsman or the tail bowling all rounders.

He’s a very important player for them, not the weak link.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
IF he is AS good as his supporters claim, should be easy to prove in this World Cup when it matters.

Truth is Babar and Rizwan are so used to feasting on 2nd string attacks that they might actually struggle in this World Cup.

Obviously Netherlands, Bangladesh, Afghanistan might offer them a chance to stat it up.
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Not sure about BD & Afg. BD has quality pace with Shakib, Afg has an army of spinners who will come for blood. Considering their recent showing against these two attack I wouldn't be too confident of a top notch knock from either of the guys. Apart from Ned, there's simply little to no room for these two to feast & statpad.
 
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