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Brilliant bowler.

Bowls yorkers at will and such an intelligent bowler too.
 
He should have taken more wickets this World Cup. He’s minnow bashes to get to to 10 plus wickets to be honest. Against the major teams, Amir has been better.

Starc overall is the GOAT
 
freelance_cricketer said:
He should have taken more wickets this World Cup. He’s minnow bashes to get to to 10 plus wickets to be honest. Against the major teams, Amir has been better.

Starc overall is the GOAT
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The only Indian bowler that comes close to him is srinath in terms of pace and guile
Zaheer was good but wayward and didn’t have the same fitness

I can see bumrah going along way to reclaiming the number one spot for India again
 
chacha kashmiri said:
The only Indian bowler that comes close to him is srinath in terms of pace and guile
Zaheer was good but wayward and didn’t have the same fitness

I can see bumrah going along way to reclaiming the number one spot for India again
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Kapil Dev is by far the greatest Indian pacer
 
freelance_cricketer said:
He should have taken more wickets this World Cup. He’s minnow bashes to get to to 10 plus wickets to be honest. Against the major teams, Amir has been better.

Starc overall is the GOAT
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LOL no way.

12 of Amir's wickets have come after the opposition has scored 250 or more.

Amir has been the king of cheap wickets this WC.

But yeah, Starc is the WC GOAT.
 
Took a fifer yesterday.
55 test wickets @ 20.64 avg. SR - 46.76 :bumrah

Fab4 of fast bowling - :rabada2 :bumrah :jofra :cummins

Shaheen Afridi is one of the guys who has potential to match these bowlers.
 
Hugely in awe of this guy - just read that he is the first Asian to take 5fers in all the countries he has played in (& still yet to debut on home soil) - England, Australia, SA & WI. That outswinger today was a masterclass.

Looking forward to see the rivalry grow between Bumrah, Archer, Rabada & Cummins. Hope a Pakistani joins this quartet soon.
 
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spiderreddy said:
Took a fifer yesterday.
55 test wickets @ 20.64 avg. SR - 46.76 :bumrah

Fab4 of fast bowling - :rabada2 :bumrah :jofra :cummins

Shaheen Afridi is one of the guys who has potential to match these bowlers.
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This is a pretty accurate assessment. Rn I would put Bumrah and Cummins on top. Cummins for me is the better test bowler. Bumrah easily the best in limited-overs but Jofra is definitely going to challenge both.

Shaheen is definitely going be in there aswell soon enough. Don't see any reason why he won't be.
 
Never thought I'd see a world class Indian fast bowler in my lifetime. We're so lucky to have this guy.
 
dildilpak said:
Hugely in awe of this guy - just read that he is the first Asian to take 5fers in all the countries he has played in (& still yet to debut on home soil) - England, Australia, SA & WI. That outswinger today was a masterclass.

Looking forward to see the rivalry grow between Bumrah, Archer, Rabada & Cummins. Hope a Pakistani joins this quartet soon.
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Archer has no rivalry with Rabada lol. Rabada has 150 wickets and has the best SR in test history. Archer has played just 2 matches and plenty of bowlers had better start to career. Let's not get carried away.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Kapil Dev is by far the greatest Indian pacer
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Unpopular opinion but Kapil Dev is hugely overrated. He was a good bowler and he took a lot of wickets but the guy's defining characteristic was his durability. Plus infront of that sorry looking Indian attack the guy practically looked like a god. He definitely wasn't giving batsmen any sleepless nights though. And for me he wasn't even one tenth the bowler that Imran or Hadlee were. Nor did he come close to peak-Botham.

I agree that he is India's greatest pacer but there isn't exactly a particularly high-bar. Who are going be the others? Srinath, Zaheer and Ishant? If Bumrah doesn't get too many injuries I'm fairly certain he will end up being India's all-time best by the end of his career if not the middle.
 
I would say that on current form Bumrah has overtaken Rabada as the best around. Never thought I'd ever see a day when the best fast bowler in the world was Indian.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Unpopular opinion but Kapil Dev is hugely overrated. He was a good bowler and he took a lot of wickets but the guy's defining characteristic was his durability. Plus infront of that sorry looking Indian attack the guy practically looked like a god. He definitely wasn't giving batsmen any sleepless nights though. And for me he wasn't even one tenth the bowler that Imran or Hadlee were. Nor did he come close to peak-Botham.

I agree that he is India's greatest pacer but there isn't exactly a particularly high-bar. Who are going be the others? Srinath, Zaheer and Ishant? If Bumrah doesn't get too many injuries I'm fairly certain he will end up being India's all-time best by the end of his career if not the middle.
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you are wrong on a lot of things w.r.t Kapil . When some body is forced to play day in day out cricket with virtually no quality bowler to support him , it is only natural that he had to cut short
on fastness on a lot of occasions for the sake of the team.I am not into a comparison of him with Imran or Hadlee or who ever here , but to take 21 5 wkt: hauls & 434 wkts of which more than 50% was that of top order batsmen speaks volumes about the man's calibre.
 
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satheesh said:
you are wrong on a lot of things w.r.t Kapil . When some body is forced to play day in day out cricket with virtually no quality bowler to support him , it is only natural that he had to cut short
on fastness on a lot of occasions for the sake of the team.I am not into a comparison of him with Imran or Hadlee or who ever here , but to take 21 5 wkt: hauls & 434 wkts of which more than 50% was that of top order batsmen speaks volumes about the man's calibre.
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I never said he wasn't a good bowler or that he didn't take alot of wickets. I'm saying that the sorry looking Indian attack he played with made him look better than he was. And the comparison with Imran and Hadlee isn't something I came up with, Imran, Hadlee, Botham and Kapil were regarded as the best all-rounders of their respective era. The point I'm trying to make is that Kapil wasn't even comparable to his fellow rivals, let alone the other great fast-bowlers of that era.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Unpopular opinion but Kapil Dev is hugely overrated. He was a good bowler and he took a lot of wickets but the guy's defining characteristic was his durability. Plus infront of that sorry looking Indian attack the guy practically looked like a god. He definitely wasn't giving batsmen any sleepless nights though. And for me he wasn't even one tenth the bowler that Imran or Hadlee were. Nor did he come close to peak-Botham.

I agree that he is India's greatest pacer but there isn't exactly a particularly high-bar. Who are going be the others? Srinath, Zaheer and Ishant? If Bumrah doesn't get too many injuries I'm fairly certain he will end up being India's all-time best by the end of his career if not the middle.
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In the 1980s against West Indies kapil was one of the best fast bowler 19 tests 72 wickets avge 22 strike rate 51. He didn't resort to any illegal means. He didn't have good fast bowler friendly conditions. He didn't have support bowlers. There was a joke i saw in archives from the 80s "can we use kapil from both ends" against 1983 series against Windies.
 
Back to topic, Bumrah swinging the duke ball will make him more potent than already he is.Huge credit to SHami and Ishant for going toe to toe with Bumrah. A successful bowler will be even more successful when he has excellent partners.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Wipes the floor with every so called Pakistani fast bowler with his swing and pace.
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Only Shaheen Afridi will make it to Indian bowling lineup. Probably in place of Ishant. That too because Shaheen is young and has a lot of upside.
 
shaheen will be good for india. shaheen and bumrah together would be the best Asian bowlers. shami as the third one.

India and Pakistan should join and become one force. imagine what a team it would be.

in tests;

bumrah
shaheen
shami

spinning all rounder would be jaddu
and pace all rounder ashraf or pandya

keeper- pant

babar azam
rahane or gill
kohli
Mayank or shaw
shan masood
 
lol at Shaheen Shah Afridi - the guy who averages 31+ being on the level of Bumrah et al. Matlab kuch bhi.

He won't even get into the Indian team. Ishant has been averaging 27 over the last 5 years.
 
geraltofrivia said:
lol at Shaheen Shah Afridi - the guy who averages 31+ being on the level of Bumrah et al. Matlab kuch bhi.

He won't even get into the Indian team. Ishant has been averaging 27 over the last 5 years.
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he is barely 18 brother. He will become a great player. Has serious potential. ishant is elite. Great bowler but shaheen has more potential. he is a future star
 
geraltofrivia said:
lol at Shaheen Shah Afridi - the guy who averages 31+ being on the level of Bumrah et al. Matlab kuch bhi.

He won't even get into the Indian team. Ishant has been averaging 27 over the last 5 years.
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Even Bhuvi who has a test career average of 26 with 26 average both home and away cannot find a place in this team
 
Last Monetarist said:
I would say that on current form Bumrah has overtaken Rabada as the best around. Never thought I'd ever see a day when the best fast bowler in the world was Indian.
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Agreed . But it was 10 years in the making . Srinath nehra and Zaheer was the best trio of pacers we had - after Sri prasad and agarkar

Since then india has had an explosion of speed merchants . Bumrah shami sharma are the best trio and perhaps the best as a pack . Good support in b kumar , Saini , yadav . Avesh krishna etc in the wings . When u have about 15 good pacers in domestic circuit , one or two will be world class
 
Best pacer in the world right now.

And ATG Indian pacer.
 
tyron_woodley said:
he is barely 18 brother. He will become a great player. Has serious potential. ishant is elite. Great bowler but shaheen has more potential. he is a future star
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potential pe duniya chalti toh amir and umar akmal would have better careers than they had.
 
Manunited18 said:
Where was bumrah at 18
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exactly. bumrah is world class but shaheen also has potential. He has a first class average of 22. that's excellent numbers especially on dead pakistan pitches.

shaheen will become what amir was expected to be. Shaheen will be a future superstar.

bumrah shaheen together would be lethal.
 
Manunited18 said:
Where was bumrah at 18
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that's not how logic works. that is the biggest common logical fallacy you are making.

Blackbirds exist. That does not mean every bird is black.

Billionaires were babies once. That does not mean every baby will grow up to be a billionaire.

And in this regard, good fast bowlers when young are promising fast bowlers. That does not mean every promising fast bowler will become a good fast bowler.

Using your logic, Bumrah is as good as Wasim, Waqar, Imran cause he has similar/superior stats than them at same point in career.
 
geraltofrivia said:
that's not how logic works. that is the biggest common logical fallacy you are making.

Blackbirds exist. That does not mean every bird is black.

Billionaires were babies once. That does not mean every baby will grow up to be a billionaire.

And in this regard, good fast bowlers when young are promising fast bowlers. That does not mean every promising fast bowler will become a good fast bowler.

Using your logic, Bumrah is as good as Wasim, Waqar, Imran cause he has similar/superior stats than them at same point in career.
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No it isn't, may be same could be said with the logic that bumrah is being classed world class after 11 tests to be delusional
 
Bumrah is the best bowler we ever produced in our country's existence. He is not the best in the world right now. Here are my rankings -

1. Cummins
2. Rabada
3. Archer
4. Boult
5. Bumrah
6. Hazlewood
7. Shaheen
8. Starc
9. Roach
10. Amir

Basically the best we ever produced is this generation's 5th best bowler.
 
Ram Shekhar said:
Bumrah is the best bowler we ever produced in our country's existence. He is not the best in the world right now. Here are my rankings -

1. Cummins
2. Rabada
3. Archer
4. Boult
5. Bumrah
6. Hazlewood
7. Shaheen
8. Starc
9. Roach
10. Amir

Basically the best we ever produced is this generation's 5th best bowler.
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he is the best bowler in the world. hands down. Stop being submissive like a sycophant to cater for the Pakistani community. bumrah is miles ahead of boult rabada. Cummins is equal to bumrah. shaheen has the potential to get there.
 
Ram Shekhar said:
Bumrah is the best bowler we ever produced in our country's existence. He is not the best in the world right now. Here are my rankings -

1. Cummins
2. Rabada
3. Archer
4. Boult
5. Bumrah
6. Hazlewood
7. Shaheen
8. Starc
9. Roach
10. Amir

Basically the best we ever produced is this generation's 5th best bowler.
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In all formats together, I'd rank bumrah at the top
 
tyron_woodley said:
he is the best bowler in the world. hands down. Stop being submissive like a sycophant to cater for the Pakistani community. bumrah is miles ahead of boult rabada. Cummins is equal to bumrah. shaheen has the potential to get there.
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I feel Cummins, Archer, and Boult are comfortably better than Bumrah in all conditions in all formats. Bumrah may be better than Rabada in T20s and ODIs though. But in tests, my ranking holds perfectly true. Have you watched Rabada bowl in test matches? He makes batsmen shiver which Bumrah doesn't do.
 
Ram Shekhar said:
Debatable. I'd rank Archer, Cummins, and Boult ahead if him. But we can agree to disagree.
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archer just go into the scene, hes not ranked higher the bumrah. who is the first Asian fast bowler to take 5 wkt hauls in all the countries he first toured.

cummins and rabada are the only ones comparable to him.
 
Sir-fraz said:
archer just go into the scene, hes not ranked higher the bumrah. who is the first Asian fast bowler to take 5 wkt hauls in all the countries he first toured.

cummins and rabada are the only ones comparable to him.
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Yes. Boult minus swinging conditions look less than Roach. Cummins was found wanting in the limited overs as he had no variation, skill remotely close to Bumrah's skill.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Yes. Boult minus swinging conditions look less than Roach. Cummins was found wanting in the limited overs as he had no variation, skill remotely close to Bumrah's skill.
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bumrah is the best bowler in the world. period. test odi t20. all formats.

end of story.

rabada has an average of 55 in india.
Cummins is elite but bumrah is more skilful.

shaheen is the only bowler with potential to be a Great apart from boomrah and maybe cummins if he performs in subcontinent.

Pattinson is overrated. He'll forget about these clowns. shami is top 5 easily. shami is better than boult.
 
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tyron_woodley said:
bumrah is the best bowler in the world. period. test odi t20. all formats.

end of story.

rabada has an average of 55 in india.
Cummins is elite but bumrah is more skilful.

shaheen is the only bowler with potential to be a Great apart from boomrah and maybe cummins if he performs in subcontinent.

Pattinson is overrated. He'll forget about these clowns. shami is top 5 easily. shami is better than boult.
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The astonishing thing about bumrah is he rarely gets whacked at all, I mean this era with all the power plays his economy is unblievable, also a fantastic start to his test career
 
Manunited18 said:
No it isn't, may be same could be said with the logic that bumrah is being classed world class after 11 tests to be delusional
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rubbish. he is world class. no one is calling him atg.

he has 55 wkts at 20.64 with an sr of 46.76 with 4 5 wicket hauls. all in victories.

shaheen avergaes 31.41.
 
Manunited18 said:
That's your opinion, I completely disagree with yours
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ignore him. shaheen is 19. we all saw what he can do in the world cup. even wasim thinks he is going to be a future Great and he seldom praises anyone. He always derides the modern Pakistani bowlers for no reason.
 
Bumrah is neither the best nor the greatest at anything, any team and any era.

He has a long way to go.
 
tyron_woodley said:
ignore him. shaheen is 19. we all saw what he can do in the world cup. even wasim thinks he is going to be a future Great and he seldom praises anyone. He always derides the modern Pakistani bowlers for no reason.
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I actually do agree the current batch of pakistan quicks the likes of Hasan ali, Amir to a extent, wahab, all been pretty ordinary to be honest, but there's a batch of young quicks who are coming through are very exiting, shaheen 19, hasnain 19, and naseem, these guys are the real deal
 
geraltofrivia said:
rubbish. he is world class. no one is calling him atg.

he has 55 wkts at 20.64 with an sr of 46.76 with 4 5 wicket hauls. all in victories.

shaheen avergaes 31.41.
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Abbas , 66 wickets @ 18, strike rate @46 , 4 fifers and 1 tenfer would be a all time great with your logic
 
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Good start to career hope he performs the same for for next few years. If he does will definitely go down as ATG.
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] what are your views about Bumrah. Seeing you have a high bar set for quality fast bowlers would like to hear your views about a good indian talent.
 
big_gamer007 said:
What is your definition of "world class"?

The answer to that question will clear many things.
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It's not the definition or the meaning, I do rate bumrah highly as some of my posts suggest, I categorise talent, a guy that has played just over ten tests I'd put him in the potential category, as for bumrah after 20-25 tests still performing admirably then I'd say he's world class
 
Manunited18 said:
It's not the definition or the meaning, I do rate bumrah highly as some of my posts suggest, I categorise talent, a guy that has played just over ten tests I'd put him in the potential category, as for bumrah after 20-25 tests still performing admirably then I'd say he's world class
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There it is, you rate people as world class if they perform consistently for 20-25 test matches. Below that you would rate them as "exciting prospects", "talents" etc.

Other's might not follow the same criteria and rate bowlers world class after 10 matches. There is no fix amount of matches, everyone rates differently.
 
Ahmed Shehzad at 18 was playing for Pakistan
Kohli wasn't anywhere close to Indian u19 team then

Few years later Shehzad was trying to copy everything about Kohli

So Shaheen being better than Bumrah at 18 doesn't guarantee that he will be better
 
Boom

big_gamer007 said:
There it is, you rate people as world class if they perform consistently for 20-25 test matches. Below that you would rate them as "exciting prospects", "talents" etc.

Other's might not follow the same criteria and rate bowlers world class after 10 matches. There is no fix amount of matches, everyone rates differently.
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Well everyone have their own rating parameters. Even West Indian bowling greats have their own.
 
You have to perform over a period of time to be ranked highly as world class, or throughout your career as being ranked A.T.G
 
Whether or not his career would be curtailed by injuries, He has got the world talking at the moment. The longer he keeps performing this way, the longer will he be remembered.
 
ATG, GOAT, WC are all arbritrary terms and varies with Person to Person. If he keeps performing series after series, everyone will laud him. Ofc, there will be certain posters who rates on the basis of beautifull bowling actions and celebrations.
 
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Bumrah has a Test hat-trick!

Destroying WI top order at the moment - amazing bowler.
 
MenInG said:
Bumrah has a Test hat-trick!

Destroying WI top order at the moment - amazing bowler.
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Indians to take a hat-trick in Test cricket

Harbhajan Singh v Australia at the Eden Gardens in 2001

Irfan Pathan v Pakistan at Karachi in 2006

JASPRIT BUMRAH v West Indies at Kingston, Jamaica in 2019
 
Manunited18 said:
Not as quite quick as archer but has a very economical run up, but boy what a gun fast bowler
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Let him take 150 test wickets then we will see.

He can bowl close to 90mph and hit 150ks, so he isnt medium pacer, ofcourse Archer is faster. But Bumrah has better accuracy and can move the ball both ways.
 
I am going to go out on a limb and say he is already India's greatest ever bowler. I don't believe in jinx and curses so I will say he is going to be the greatest bowler of this current era along with shaheen and cummins. No rabada.
 
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