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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Jasprit Bumrah is the best fast-bowler in the world right now

Broke Kapil Dev's 40-year old record

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Manunited18 said:
Bumrah is good, but I've got question marks over the legitimacy of his action.
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We need a separate thread on Bumrah action conspiracies as it is a topic with no end or objective analysis that is completely nationalistic I think
 
He can still turn the game on it’s head with two-three quick wickets
 
Patrick Cummins is better but Bumrah is not far away. What I have noticed is both of them don't give their all in T20 cricket/IPL etc and bowls tripe but saves their best for red ball cricket.
 
Quality bowler let down by other 4 supporting bowlers in the team.

Bowlers always hunt in pairs.
 
Bumrah has hesitated to bowl himself as captain. Day 5 with cloud cover vs England and Bumrah decides to open the bowling with Saraj and Shami.
 
Bowling tripe at the moment. This game is out of India’s reach now.
 
Wonder if Bumrah is carrying a slight injury. He went off the field for a while last night and has not bowled much since; and has not been great when he has.
 
James said:
Wonder if Bumrah is carrying a slight injury. He went off the field for a while last night and has not bowled much since; and has not been great when he has.
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Bumrah doesn't normally do well in high pressure matches. It might just be nerves.
 
Don’t hop into him now just because of this one innings. All fast bowlers have had teams rack up big totals/fail to bowl batsmen out in the last day.

Cummins numerous times
McGrath at Eden Gardens and Lara 153
Wasim vs Australia 1999

Etc
 
therealAB said:
Don’t hop into him now just because of this one innings. All fast bowlers have had teams rack up big totals/fail to bowl batsmen out in the last day.

Cummins numerous times
McGrath at Eden Gardens and Lara 153
Wasim vs Australia 1999

Etc
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This has been a recurrent theme with Bumrah.

1) ICC CT final against Pakistan in '17
2) ODI WC SF against NZ
3) WTC final against NZ last year
4) Last 2 tests against SA in SA earlier this year
5) This test
6) Multiple WT20s
 
Well well…..

If he was as great or the tired “best bowler in the world” as many tout him to be, India would not be losing by 7 wickets defending a very big total in 378.

It takes more than a good ball or two to be a great.

You can’t complain about support from the other bowlers either. Isn’t this the much vaunted best bowling line up in the world?
 
MP2011 said:
This has been a recurrent theme with Bumrah.

1) ICC CT final against Pakistan in '17
2) ODI WC SF against NZ
3) WTC final against NZ last year
4) Last 2 tests against SA in SA earlier this year
5) This test
6) Multiple WT20s
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For a bowler of his calibre he goes missing too often in big games.
 
Bumrah has lived a charm life uptill now. Plays 3 test matches and then get rest, then play some games and then again get rests. He had it easier compared to, say, the great Kapil Dev.

Nevertheless, he is the lead bowler and has won us a lot of series too. He was our best player in this series with 23 wickets.
 
Ab Fan said:
Bumrah has lived a charm life uptill now. Plays 3 test matches and then get rest, then play some games and then again get rests. He had it easier compared to, say, the great Kapil Dev.

Nevertheless, he is the lead bowler and has won us a lot of series too. He was our best player in this series with 23 wickets.
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Agree with all of this. He is least of our problems at the moment.
 
Too much rest for these prima donnas. They rest as they please.
 
This Test has proven he is not the best currently.

As a matter of fact, he is not even in top 3.
 
MP2011 said:
This has been a recurrent theme with Bumrah.

1) ICC CT final against Pakistan in '17
2) ODI WC SF against NZ
3) WTC final against NZ last year
4) Last 2 tests against SA in SA earlier this year
5) This test
6) Multiple WT20s
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I'm not too familiar with short form stuff, but WTC final is fair. In SA I didn't think he bowled bad. I think teams are mentally better at chasing these days as well
 
TheSultan said:
Well well…..

If he was as great or the tired “best bowler in the world” as many tout him to be, India would not be losing by 7 wickets defending a very big total in 378.

It takes more than a good ball or two to be a great.

You can’t complain about support from the other bowlers either. Isn’t this the much vaunted best bowling line up in the world?
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See my above comment. All bowlers have failed to defend targets, even Wasim, McGrath, Cummins, Steyn and Holding just off the top of my head
 
This team is clearly not responding to whatever Paras Mhambrey is doing.

Before he came in November 2021 i dont remember the last time a team chased 250 plus vs India in the last innings of a test.

Regards to Bumrah, well McGrath Gillespie Lee gave away 400 plus.
 
therealAB said:
See my above comment. All bowlers have failed to defend targets, even Wasim, McGrath, Cummins, Steyn and Holding just off the top of my head
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Not by 7 wickets and conceding at the rate india did.
 
Bumrah.

- A world class bowler? Of course .
- An Indian ATG? Of course.
- A world ATG? No chance. Goes missing in big games. Not consistent enough. And most of all - a questionable action. Even if it is legal, his action is too ugly to allow him to be drafted to the elite level!
- I’m sure he’s a nice person so this is not a personal attack - but his on field mannerisms are a bit annoying and slightly feminite. I’m referring to the wierd celebratory smiles and gestures.
 
The Googly said:
Bumrah.

- A world class bowler? Of course .
- An Indian ATG? Of course.
- A world ATG? No chance. Goes missing in big games. Not consistent enough. And most of all - a questionable action. Even if it is legal, his action is too ugly to allow him to be drafted to the elite level!
- I’m sure he’s a nice person so this is not a personal attack - but his on field mannerisms are a bit annoying and slightly feminite. I’m referring to the wierd celebratory smiles and gestures.
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He is not yet a world ATG because he doesn't have 200-300 wickets. He gets there with the same average. He will be an ATG.

Who questioned his action? Umpire? Match referee? Commentators? Who?

Greats are not decided by their bowling action but by their performances.
 
His action ‘at times’ is questionable - certainly not all the time.
He is not an ATG simply because he goes missing at key points.
 
The Googly said:
His action ‘at times’ is questionable - certainly not all the time.
He is not an ATG simply because he goes missing at key points.
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How is his action questionable and who has questioned his action? Umpires? Match referees? Commentators? Ex cricketers? Who?
 
India star Jaspit Bumrah has added to his ever-growing list of accolades by becoming the world's top ranked one-day bowler on the latest MRF Tyres ICC Men's ODI Player Rankings.

Bumrah is one of only three bowlers to be ranked in the top 10 for Tests and ODI cricket and earlier this month made history when he was at the crease when England quick Stuart Broad conceded a world record 35 runs in one over of a Test match.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Oval pitch has great bounce but Indian bowlers bowled the right lengths & that made all the difference.<br><br>A great bowling performance by India’s pace attack especially Bumrah who was just phenomenal. <a href="https://t.co/7Y3I6pbIRF">pic.twitter.com/7Y3I6pbIRF</a></p>— Sachin Tendulkar (@sachin_rt) <a href="https://twitter.com/sachin_rt/status/1546873352383434752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Ab Fan said:
After 62 tests took 247 test wickets. Then post knee injury, wasn't the same.

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...al2=span;team=6;template=results;type=bowling
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After his knee injury he lost that majestic jump he had and was basically an ok to avg bowler with the occasional greatness.

He was a better batsmen than he was a bowler, matter of fact he was the most talented batsmen in the Indian team. Name me any other batsmen who went to WI and smacked their all time great bowlers around like they were club bowlers...
 
Jasprit Bumrah, India's star pacer, ruled out of Asia Cup with back injury.

BCCI :

Jasprit Bumrah and Harshal Patel were not available for selection owing to injuries. They are currently undergoing rehab at the NCA in Bengaluru
 
He has been having injury problems for four or so years now. I wonder how many years he has left in the tank if he keeps getting this frequently at 28. If I'm not wrong he has sustained some kind of injury every year since 2018.
 
Romali_rotti said:
After his knee injury he lost that majestic jump he had and was basically an ok to avg bowler with the occasional greatness.

He was a better batsmen than he was a bowler, matter of fact he was the most talented batsmen in the Indian team. Name me any other batsmen who went to WI and smacked their all time great bowlers around like they were club bowlers...
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Another big factor was non stop playing. Kapil never really took injury break. He could have had better stats had be rested more and played lesser ODI's when he was not at his best.
 
Such a diabolical action was always going to result in regular injuries.

Personally, I don’t mind if a bowler has a stellar but short career, but he hasn’t really had a stellar career so if he doesn’t come back from this he’s basically a failure
 
The Googly said:
Bumrah.

- A world class bowler? Of course .
- An Indian ATG? Of course.
- A world ATG? No chance. Goes missing in big games. Not consistent enough. And most of all - a questionable action. Even if it is legal, his action is too ugly to allow him to be drafted to the elite level!
- I’m sure he’s a nice person so this is not a personal attack - but his on field mannerisms are a bit annoying and slightly feminite. I’m referring to the wierd celebratory smiles and gestures.
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good way to describe it.
 
If he takes 300 test wickets, he will be an ATG. He has ATG numbers in all formats, just need a few more years of performance. :inti
 
TheSultan said:
Personally, I don’t mind if a bowler has a stellar but short career, but he hasn’t really had a stellar career so if he doesn’t come back from this he’s basically a failure
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Not sure if you follow cricket closely or don't understand it well despite following. His career has been undoubtedly stellar so far.

He has fantastic performance in many series in Aus, Eng, SA, Eng, WI etc....

Only 11 bowlers in the last 40+ years have averaged less than 25 with 100+ wickets in opposition's den.

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Here is over all home and away last 40 plus years,

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Bumrah and Cummins are two stand out bowlers of this generation. If they play long enough, both should finish as ATG.
 
Buffet said:
Just had time in my hand so replied to a post claiming Bumrah being a failure if he hangs his boot right now.
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Yeah I get that and debates are what makes this site so wonderful.
But when you break it down who really cares if he is great or just another one who could have been but wasn't... won't make any difference to you, me or anyone else
 
IMMY69 said:
Yeah I get that and debates are what makes this site so wonderful.
But when you break it down who really cares if he is great or just another one who could have been but wasn't... won't make any difference to you, me or anyone else
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I like to watch good performances. I do care. In fact, we are exchanging views in cricket forum means you and me both care enough otherwise we won't be here ;)
 
At present Bumrah is decent company of good Bowlers with sub 200 Wickets with great average. He needs 300 Wickets at similar average to be counted amongst great. But its unlikely to happen given his fitness issues cropping up from time to time.

Bowlers who mostly played 70's and onwards with sub 30 average under 200 wickets
Player Span Mat Wkts Avg Econ SR 5W 10W
PJ Cummins (AUS) 2011-2022 43 199 21.66 2.74 47.2 7 1
JJ Bumrah (INDIA) 2018-2022 30 128 21.99 2.69 48.9 8 0
CEH Croft (WI) 1977-1982 27 125 23.3 2.83 49.3 3 0
RJ Harris (AUS) 2010-2015 27 113 23.52 2.78 50.7 5 0
IR Bishop (WI) 1989-1998 43 161 24.27 2.78 52.2 6 0
Mohammad Asif (PAK) 2005-2010 23 106 24.36 2.99 48.7 7 1
BA Reid (AUS) 1985-1992 27 113 24.63 2.67 55.2 5 2
Shoaib Akhtar (PAK) 1997-2007 46 178 25.69 3.37 45.7 12 2
PR Reiffel (AUS) 1992-1998 35 104 26.96 2.62 61.5 5 0
TM Alderman (AUS) 1981-1991 41 170 27.15 2.72 59.8 14 1
ARC Fraser (ENG) 1989-1998 46 177 27.32 2.66 61.4 13 2
MHN Walker (AUS) 1972-1977 34 138 27.47 2.25 73.1 6 0
JO Holder (WI) 2014-2022 56 142 28.03 2.51 66.9 8 1
Saeed Ajmal (PAK) 2009-2014 35 178 28.1 2.58 65.1 10 4
CM Old (ENG) 1972-1981 46 143 28.11 2.72 61.9 4 0
Iqbal Qasim (PAK) 1976-1988 50 171 28.11 2.21 76.1 8 2
GG Arnold (ENG) 1967-1975 34 115 28.29 2.55 66.5 6 0
RM Hogg (AUS) 1978-1984 38 123 28.47 2.75 62 6 2
RO Collinge (NZ) 1965-1978 35 116 29.25 2.64 66.2 3 0
 
Buffet said:
Not sure if you follow cricket closely or don't understand it well despite following. His career has been undoubtedly stellar so far.

He has fantastic performance in many series in Aus, Eng, SA, Eng, WI etc....

Only 11 bowlers in the last 40+ years have averaged less than 25 with 100+ wickets in opposition's den.

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According to him, Shoaib Akhtar is a legend with an average of almost 26, having taken a grand total of 178 Test wickets. But Bumrah would be a failure if he doesn't come back from his injury.
 
Hitman said:
According to him, Shoaib Akhtar is a legend with an average of almost 26, having taken a grand total of 178 Test wickets. But Bumrah would be a failure if he doesn't come back from his injury.
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Bhumrah is on the ATG path. If he is able to reach 300 plus wickets at a similar rate he will be an ATG.
 
Buffet said:
Not sure if you follow cricket closely or don't understand it well despite following. His career has been undoubtedly stellar so far.

He has fantastic performance in many series in Aus, Eng, SA, Eng, WI etc....

Only 11 bowlers in the last 40+ years have averaged less than 25 with 100+ wickets in opposition's den.

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It’s good, not stellar. He needs a stellar patch of about 5 years averaging around 19 with a strike rate of under 40.

Undoubtedly if he continues his career, his stats will get worse so with a stellar peak he could average around 25 with strike rate of around 50.

But he’s not stellar in his peak so I expect him to end his career with the usual Indian pacer in the late 20s.

Failure was a bit harsh, he won’t be a failure but he will have a pretty underwhelming career.
 
Hitman said:
According to him, Shoaib Akhtar is a legend with an average of almost 26, having taken a grand total of 178 Test wickets. But Bumrah would be a failure if he doesn't come back from his injury.
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Legend is different to Greatness or ATGness. He is not a great or ATG, but whether you like it or not, for everything over the course of his career, the good, the bad, the ugly he is a legend.
 
Hitman said:
According to him, Shoaib Akhtar is a legend with an average of almost 26, having taken a grand total of 178 Test wickets. But Bumrah would be a failure if he doesn't come back from his injury.
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And if Bumrah doesn’t come back then I’m sorry 114 wickets in a career, he becomes an asterisk in history.
 
TheSultan said:
It’s good, not stellar. He needs a stellar patch of about 5 years averaging around 19 with a strike rate of under 40.

Undoubtedly if he continues his career, his stats will get worse so with a stellar peak he could average around 25 with strike rate of around 50.

But he’s not stellar in his peak so I expect him to end his career with the usual Indian pacer in the late 20s.

Failure was a bit harsh, he won’t be a failure but he will have a pretty underwhelming career.
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Why do you think this is his peak and it will go down? Ishant after 53 tests was averaging 38. In his last 52 tests averaged 26.
 
TheSultan said:
And if Bumrah doesn’t come back then I’m sorry 114 wickets in a career, he becomes an asterisk in history.
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Not sure why you think he won't come back. It is part and parcel of a fast bowler. Zaheer/Mohammad Shami/Cummins suffered so many injuries before coming back bigger and better.
 
TheSultan said:
It’s good, not stellar. He needs a stellar patch of about 5 years averaging around 19 with a strike rate of under 40.

Undoubtedly if he continues his career, his stats will get worse so with a stellar peak he could average around 25 with strike rate of around 50.

But he’s not stellar in his peak so I expect him to end his career with the usual Indian pacer in the late 20s.

Failure was a bit harsh, he won’t be a failure but he will have a pretty underwhelming career.
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Are you getting a point in all of these now reading posts like this? [MENTION=491]IMMY69[/MENTION]
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
These injuries can be easily avoided by not playing this useless piece of cricket just before an important world cup. He should be careful because last year too he was injured before England tour and that affected the performance of Indian team. I think fans will understand the importance of resting if he doesn't make it to world cup.
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I said this on 24th March 2019. Do you guys finally understand my point now? :inti
 
Star fast-bowler Jasprit Bumrah who is out of action since September 24, 2022, is set to make a return to the Indian team after almost an year out when the team will travel to Sri Lanka to take part in the Asia Cup 2023 later this year. Bumrah, who missed the Asia Cup which was played in T20I format last year in United Arab Emirate is likely to get fit to return for the Asia Cup. This year, the continental event will be played in ODI format and will serve as a build-up of the ODI World Cup for the Asian teams.

Hours after the schedule of Asia Cup 2023 was confirmed by the Asian Cricket Council (ACC) on Thursday, it has been reported that Bumrah along with star middle-order batter Shreyas Iyer will be fit and available for selection for the six-team competition which will be played in a hybrid model this year.

The four non-India matches of group stage will be played in Lahore where the marquee India vs Pakistan clash and other super four matches will take place in Sri Lanka from August 31 to September 17.

According to a report, it has been learned that Bumrah has begun 'light bowling' workloads at the National Cricket Academy (NCA). Bumrah is at the NCA for mainly physiotherapy. Bumrah's teammate Iyer, who is out of action since Ahmedabad Test against Australia in March this year due to a back injury is also healing. The report added that NCA medical staff is confident about Iyer and Bumrah making their respective comebacks at the Asia Cup in September.

Indian team missed Bumrah's presence dearly in the last one year. In his absence India suffered an embarrassing defeat by 10 wickets against England in the T20 World Cup semifinal on November 10, 2022, and then in the WTC 2023 final as well, the bowling attack looked clueless for majority of the game.

His return will not just ignite India's chances of winning the Asia Cup but will also give a big boost to the ODI World Cup hopes. The 13th edition of ICC Men's ODI World Cup will be played from October 5 to November 19 in India.

Cricket Country
 
Bumrah is a generational find for India. They always had Tendulkar who passed the baton to Kohli who is likely to pass it to Shubman Gill now. But Bumrah never had any real Indian bowling idol to follow and is likely not going to be replaced once he is gone. Undoubtedly the MVP for India.
 
Saanji said:
Zaheer khan
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Not in the same league as Bumrah. Zaheer Khan at his best was like Chaminda Vaas who despite being a very able bowler was still not part of any ATG XI. That is Zaheer at his peak. Across his full career he is a level below Vaas as well.
 
Extra_Cover said:
Not in the same league as Bumrah. Zaheer Khan at his best was like Chaminda Vaas who despite being a very able bowler was still not part of any ATG XI. That is Zaheer at his peak. Across his full career he is a level below Vaas as well.
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Zaheer is very underrated .he was one of the players who had important Role in 2011 world cup win.
 
Easily the best fast bowler in the world right now. Credit to him and India for ensuring that he made a full recovery before the start of this world cup. Always a treat to watch him bowl.
 
A very complete bowler.
Gives you wickets at the top, gives you wickets at the death, economical and executes change ups very well.
Would be a smart idea for us to negotiate him and see out his overs
 
Bumrah is doing what Bumrah is supposed to do.

The best fast bowler across all formats by far.

He’s still not at his best.
 
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