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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Jasprit Bumrah is the best fast-bowler in the world right now

Iamcoolwhiz said:
Babar not fit to tie Sachin shoes. Sachin played in the best bowling era.
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Simmer down with the insecurities. I never mentioned Babar, I only mentioned Tendulkar vs Namibia and Kenya - centuries vs top bowling units indeed.

No one celebrates Tendulkar's minnow level bashing centuries, utterly embarrassing to do so, but yet here we are, Indian fans celebrating Bumrah's performance vs. Afghanistan? Rhetorical, meaning no need to answer it.
 
Technics 1210 said:
Simmer down with the insecurities. I never mentioned Babar, I only mentioned Tendulkar vs Namibia and Kenya - centuries vs top bowling units indeed.

No one celebrates Tendulkar's minnow level bashing centuries but yet here we are, Indian fans celebrating Bumrah's performance vs. Afghanistan? Rhetorical, meaning no need to answer it.
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Anyone (insert Shaheen) can bowl on swinging pitches, only the best can take the pitch out of the question.

Bumrah performed on a batting paradise. A much tougher ask.
 
Technics 1210 said:
Bumrah hasn't slept a decent night's sleep after the CT17 final no ball.

See yah!
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As great as bumrah is, his record in odi against aus England and nz is mediocre tbh.

Starc averages 32 against Senip
Bumrah around 37
Cummins 37 38

It's surprisingly shami who averages 28 vs sena and pakistan from memory in odi.

Need to check shaheen' record.
 
During India vs Pakistan, the 12th Match of the ICC World Cup, Jasprit Bumrah made his presence felt. He was sensational and truly unplayable today. Got the big wicket of Rizwan and Shadab. Excellent bowler he is undoubtedly.
 
The man has some aura

Reminds of Shoaib Akhtar.

Obviously nowhere near as quick but the feeling that something will happen every delivery is the same
 
kron said:
As great as bumrah is, his record in odi against aus England and nz is mediocre tbh.

Starc averages 32 against Senip
Bumrah around 37
Cummins 37 38

It's surprisingly shami who averages 28 vs sena and pakistan from memory in odi.

Need to check shaheen' record.
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Which multiverse are these stars from??
 
Statpadder Inc said:
Bumrah has bigger wc legacy than any pakistani fast bowler other than wasim. Waqar chocked whenever he played against India in wcs
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We are not talking about WC legacy, we are talking about THIS WC.

Come back when Bumrah bowls India to a WC win in a WC final, before comparing with the likes of Wasim Akram.

Until then, the last time Bumrah bowled in an ICC final, he bowled a no-ball, and the rest is history.
 
For me Bumrah is the greatest bowler of all time along with wasim Akram and Glenn McGrath m. He will win India multiple world cups including this one aswell. This World Cup is in the bag for India with special talent bumrah is he delivering on every big occasion and will lift India this World Cup
 
JAV12341 said:
For me Bumrah is the greatest bowler of all time along with wasim Akram and Glenn McGrath m. He will win India multiple world cups including this one aswell. This World Cup is in the bag for India with special talent bumrah is he delivering on every big occasion and will lift India this World Cup
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Not sure if trolling!
 
Quite shocking people don’t rate bumrah up there with the best ever I have never seen bumrah get smashed in any game he has played for India and he always delivers in crunch situations regardless of the of what pitch it is. I’m telling you he will win India this World Cup and he will be the star of the show alongside rohit. And many more he’s at the peak of his powers. Defo the best bowler in the world right now period and has been for a long time alongside afridi who has now became a trundler and fell off recently
 
Outstanding bowler. On his way to becoming an ATG.

He is a phenomenal test bowler. I still feel he is a better red ball bowler. Still great in white ball too.

If he wins india the world cup and say a WTC then surely he will go down as one of the best from Asia.
 
kron said:
Outstanding bowler. On his way to becoming an ATG.

He is a phenomenal test bowler. I still feel he is a better red ball bowler. Still great in white ball too.

If he wins india the world cup and say a WTC then surely he will go down as one of the best from Asia.
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Don’t worry he will win India this World Cup mark my words and also a t20 World Cup and go down in history as a GOAT. What a phenomenal bowler the skill level this guy has is insane up there with another great Akram
 
Statpadder Inc said:
Bumrah has bigger wc legacy than any pakistani fast bowler other than wasim. Waqar chocked whenever he played against India in wcs
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Do you really think it's of any use debating on this topic with a person in denial and is enjoying his own thought paradise ?

First they will debate with you, drag you to their level and then win because of their expertise at that level

Leave it mere bhai 😂😂
 
Bhaijaan said:
The man has some aura

Reminds of Shoaib Akhtar.

Obviously nowhere near as quick but the feeling that something will happen every delivery is the same
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Lol what. Bumrah is closer to wasim than shoaib. In terms of ability.
Phenomenal bowler.

Never seen an Indian pacer like him ever before. He has the potential to go down as the best from Asia.
 
kron said:
Lol what. Bumrah is closer to wasim than shoaib. In terms of ability.
Phenomenal bowler.

Never seen an Indian pacer like him ever before. He has the potential to go down as the best from Asia.
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He is nowhere close to the great Wasim Akram. There's a lot of daylight between them.
 
cricketjoshila said:
He is nowhere close to the great Wasim Akram. There's a lot of daylight between them.
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He is definitely up there with the great Akram and will go down in history alongside Akram as a GOAT and this is coming from a Pakistani fan. This guy is something special unreal ability. I’ve never seen him get taken to the cleaners ever in his 7 years playing for India maybe once or twice. Unreal numbers and win this World Cup too
 
Rajdeep said:
That wicket of Rizwan today was class delivery

@owenhcricket - I remember you were saying us how Bumrah never performs against Pakistan. Hope he changed your opinion after Asia cup and this game. Unless ofcourse, you still think he is chucking.
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It wasnt an opinion, it was fact, BUmrah before the most recent Asia Cup averaged 40 against Pakistan and almost singlehandedly cost the only ICC final India have been since 2011 (maybe I'm forgetting a T20 final) BUT things can change and in the last two games, particularly today, he bowled brilliantly in the second spell. Those two deliveries he bolwed were exceptional and I can't take that from him. He was MoM.
 
cricketjoshila said:
He is nowhere close to the great Wasim Akram. There's a lot of daylight between them.
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Wasim akram definately greatest Asian bowler but calling daylight different is farce ,Wasim played in era where were balanced pitches and they were involving in ball tampering too plus reverse swing and odi were equally favouring Bowler ,Batsman .
Bumrah's record speaks himself guy performed in Sena countries(test) better than any Asian legend bowler.
And best Loi bowler of his generation so it's bit exaggeration whatever you said
For me top fast bowler from Asia
1. Wasim Akram
2. Jaspreet bumrah
 
This is Bumrah's 2nd ODI World Cup and he has been excellent this time around with bowl. His overall numbers are great anyways and seems to be on his way to become India's most valuable player across formats since Kohli.

Rohit and Ashwin fall short in one format or other but Bumrah is superb in all three formats and his sample is also good enough now.
 
JAV12341 said:
He is definitely up there with the great Akram and will go down in history alongside Akram as a GOAT and this is coming from a Pakistani fan. This guy is something special unreal ability. I’ve never seen him get taken to the cleaners ever in his 7 years playing for India maybe once or twice. Unreal numbers and win this World Cup too
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This is the same as saying Amir or Shaheen are as good Wasim.
 
Bumrah is better than Shoaib and Waqar let alone current generation of Pakistani pacers like Shaheen, Rauf and Naseem. It is laughable to compare with them.

From Pakistan, only Wasim and Imran were better than him for obvious reasons. He is also better than Asif at least in Limited Overs.
 
cricketjoshila said:
This is the same as saying Amir or Shaheen are as good Wasim.
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Not the same. Bumrah is significantly better than Amir and Shaheen.

I agree he is not as good as Wasim but the gap between him and Wasim is less than the gap between Shaheen/Amir and Wasim.

He is the best subcontinent fast bowler of all time after Wasim and Imran.
 
Simple answer yes.

Economical in the modern game, remarkably so as a powerplay bowler. Wicket taker. Can move the ball. Variations. Lethal yorker.

Has the ability to take the pitch out of the equation. If the pitch is assisting he has the quality to take advantage of it.
 
Bumrah is a complete bowler which classifies him as the best current fast bowler in the world. Please name me any bowler who can bowl in 1st PP, middle overs and death overs and stay equally potent in all spells.
 
He is a very smart bowler. Read the pitch quickly and made full use of it. His smartness is reflected in his ability to vary his pace and use slower deliveries effectively which he did brilliantly. Top class stuff
 
Mamoon said:
Not the same. Bumrah is significantly better than Amir and Shaheen.

I agree he is not as good as Wasim but the gap between him and Wasim is less than the gap between Shaheen/Amir and Wasim.

He is the best subcontinent fast bowler of all time after Wasim and Imran.
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I dont know mamoon. Dare I say, If bumrah helps india win the world cup, he has to be in the conversation to be rated as high as wasim honestly. Series wins in aus, draw vs england, helped them get to wtc finals twice etc.

He is right up there to be fair. If he wins rhe wc this time and reaches another wtc final and perhaps helps india win that top, I will have to put him on par with wasim.
 
I have never ever seen an Asian pacer this deadly. Honestly. Especially not from India
He is a generational talent and i truly wish he played for Pakistan. Seems like a nice guy too.
 
kron said:
I dont know mamoon. Dare I say, If bumrah helps india win the world cup, he has to be in the conversation to be rated as high as wasim honestly. Series wins in aus, draw vs england, helped them get to wtc finals twice etc.

He is right up there to be fair. If he wins rhe wc this time and reaches another wtc final and perhaps helps india win that top, I will have to put him on par with wasim.
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Bumrah is brilliant, but he is already 29 and has ~300 international wickets while Wasim was doing what Bumrah is doing for 15 years and took ~900 wickets.

He has to do something extraordinary over the next 4-5 years to be on par with Wasim.
 
Mamoon said:
Bumrah is brilliant, but he is already 29 and has ~300 international wickets while Wasim was doing what Bumrah is doing for 15 years and took ~900 wickets.

He has to do something extraordinary over the next 4-5 years to be on par with Wasim.
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Yea true longevity goes against him. Given the advent of t20 not many pacers are playing as many tests and odis as franchise games take precedence.
 
Mamoon said:
Bumrah is brilliant, but he is already 29 and has ~300 international wickets while Wasim was doing what Bumrah is doing for 15 years and took ~900 wickets.

He has to do something extraordinary over the next 4-5 years to be on par with Wasim.
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Doesn't Waqar also has 850-900 international wickets?
 
Bumrah is incredibly skilled. He has so many tricks up his sleeve he is always able to find a way.

He can swing the new ball both ways, he can bowl cutters and bumpers, he can bowl yorkers. In addition to that, he is very smart and knows what to bowl and when.

Apart from 2-3 times, most recently against Australia in the ODI series, I have almost never seen him get decimated.
 
I concur with mamoon here. 1 world cup win, a wtc win or a t20 wc win plus if he maintains his current average for the next 4 years he will have to be rated as highly as wasim
Already above Waqar and shoaib.
 
Ab Fan said:
Doesn't Waqar also has 850-900 international wickets?
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Waqar was a huge beneficiary of ball-tampering. Those banana swing yorkers that he bowled were only possible with heavily conditioned bowls.

Bumrah would have been unplayable with those balls and if Waqar played today where it is a lot more difficult to get away with these things, he wouldn’t have been better than Bumrah.

Wasim and Bumrah with the new ball followed by Imran Khan first change. That is the stuff of dreams.
 
Mamoon said:
Bumrah is incredibly skilled. He has so many tricks up his sleeve he is always able to find a way.

He can swing the new ball both ways, he can bowl cutters and bumpers, he can bowl yorkers. In addition to that, he is very smart and knows what to bowl and when.

Apart from 2-3 times, most recently against Australia in the ODI series, I have almost never seen him get decimate
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Mamoon said:
honest
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To be honest he looked like he was holding back vs Aussies. Wasn't it a dead rubber ? 3rd game when they already won the series.
 
Mamoon said:
Waqar was a huge beneficiary of ball-tampering. Those banana swing yorkers that he bowled were only possible with heavily conditioned bowls.

Bumrah would have been unplayable with those balls and if Waqar played today where it is a lot more difficult to get away with these things, he wouldn’t have been better than Bumrah.

Wasim and Bumrah with the new ball followed by Imran Khan first change. That is the stuff of dreams.
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Yes agreed and also Waqar has poor record in World Cups , he was not part of Pakistan team when they won WC in 1992.
 
kron said:
I concur with mamoon here. 1 world cup win, a wtc win or a t20 wc win plus if he maintains his current average for the next 4 years he will have to be rated as highly as wasim
Already above Waqar and shoaib.
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He's a good bowler with a weird action, but not in Wasim's class. Wasim was the best ever left arm bowler.
 
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Mamoon said:
Waqar was a huge beneficiary of ball-tampering. Those banana swing yorkers that he bowled were only possible with heavily conditioned bowls.

Bumrah would have been unplayable with those balls and if Waqar played today where it is a lot more difficult to get away with these things, he wouldn’t have been better than Bumrah.

Wasim and Bumrah with the new ball followed by Imran Khan first change. That is the stuff of dreams.
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Will you say that one of the major reasons for the decline of pakistani fast bowling post 2000 is cameras focussing on ball tampering?
 
cricketjoshila said:
Will you say that one of the major reasons for the decline of pakistani fast bowling post 2000 is cameras focussing on ball tampering?
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Could also be said of a lot of bowlers around the world, ball tampering was rife in England and Australia. The cameras only started focusing on it when England started getting rolled over by Pakistan.

Ian Botham, he was loved in Bharat and revered as "Iron Bottom" if you know anything about cricket history.
 
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Still I am not seeing Bumrah of before his injury years…. Where are his depth over yorkers? If he finds them, then he will be more lethal
 
Well I don't know if he is he best bowler or one of the best bowler but he is one of the best thinkers in the game. That much is quite clear over the past many years. Keeps it simple.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Could also be said of a lot of bowlers around the world, ball tampering was rife in England and Australia. The cameras only started focusing on it when England started getting rolled over by Pakistan.

Ian Botham, he was loved in Bharat and revered as "Iron Bottom" if you know anything about cricket history.
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Ian Botham wasn't loved in bharat lol, stop making stuff up.
 
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Statpadder Inc said:
Ian Botham wasn't loved in bharat lol, stop making stuff up.
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Ian Botham did not play the North Zone match at Jammu, but that did not dampen the enthusiasm of his Indian fans. The Test series was excruciatingly boring, but just like Tony Greig on the two previous tours, Botham became the darling of the Indian crowd

www.cricketcountry.com

Ian Botham blasts 50-minute 100 in CK Nayudu’s city - Cricket Country

It was only fitting that Ian Botham would play this blinder in CK Nayudu's city.
www.cricketcountry.com
 
Bumrah will finish the highest wicket taker and win India this World Cup. Yep you heard it here. I watched cricket for 3 decades now and I am more or less right when I make a prediction.

Bumrah will cement his legacy once he’s won this World Cup
 
One thing I admire about bumrah guys is so humble and down to earth never takes credit of his performances and when someone talk about his incredible bowling skills in front of him ,That guy downplay them like he haven't done anything special.
Same trait is missin in Pakistan bowlers they all the time bragging about themselves and loved if someone praise them , talking big about them.

Wasim Akram was exception.

Search on YouTube yesterday's video after match while pandya was talking with everyone on mic , There you will find how humble this guy
 
After his come back from injury he has improved alot!

But not sure for how long he will remian fit to play cricket.
 
Mamoon said:
Bumrah is brilliant, but he is already 29 and has ~300 international wickets while Wasim was doing what Bumrah is doing for 15 years and took ~900 wickets.

He has to do something extraordinary over the next 4-5 years to be on par with Wasim.
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+1

Wasim did it for a much longer period. Bumrah has around 350 international wickets and bossing in all formats. It needs to at least double to get in the range of 700-800 wickets.
 
Buffet said:
+1

Wasim did it for a much longer period. Bumrah has around 350 international wickets and bossing in all formats. It needs to at least double to get in the range of 700-800 wickets.
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yep impossible though. i think he may get max 100 to 150 more. he is already 29. 4 more years max. or maybe 5.
200 max wickets actually.
 
So far his career,

Test - Avg 22 - ER 2.6 - SR 48
ODI - Avg 23 - ER 4.6 - SR 30
T20 - Avg 19 - ER 6.5 - SR 17

Stellar in all three formats with total 339 wickets. Great thing about him is that he is deadly with new ball, middle overs and death overs. Great SR, very economical and great average in all three formats. Extremely rare.

He needs to double his tally here to get to in the range of 700-800 international wickets with similar output to go down as one of the best in history.
 
kron said:
yep impossible though. i think he may get max 100 to 150 more. he is already 29. 4 more years max. or maybe 5.
200 max wickets actually.
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Then I don't think he can be in discussion to be better than Wasim. Wasim was equally good in Test and ODI. T20 did not exist then. Bumrah has been gun in all three formats, but there is difference between producing 500 wickets vs 900 wickets if other things are more or less equal.

Now if Bumrah produces gun performance to take him team few more overseas test series wins against strong teams then I think some discussion can take place but I think Indians are not winning that much outside when Kohli is not going to be a captain. He was the one who tried to win all games and pacers did extremely well under him. Most captains just win one test and then try to hold the lead.

Anyway, who cares. Just enjoy gun players. I used to tune in for Pakistan's match just to watch Wasim.
 
Buffet said:
Then I don't think he can be in discussion to be better than Wasim. Wasim was equally good in Test and ODI. T20 did not exist then. Bumrah has been gun in all three formats, but there is difference between producing 500 wickets vs 900 wickets if other things are more or less equal.

Now if Bumrah produces gun performance to take him team few more overseas test series wins against strong teams then I think some discussion can take place but I think Indians are not winning that much outside when Kohli is not going to be a captain. He was the one who tried to win all games and pacers did extremely well under him. Most captains just win one test and then try to hold the lead.

Anyway, who cares. Just enjoy gun players. I used to tune in for Pakistan's match just to watch Wasim.
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yea agreed. indians are good. they probably still could win overseas. they got some good young fast bowlers coming up.
but captain wise, yes it will be a struggle for them.

if bumrah helps india win an overseas test series in SA and one of nz or england then yea sure plus if he gets another 300 wickets then he will be in the convo otherwise he will be just a touch under wasim.
 
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