[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Justice for Salman Ali Agha? Why can't he be a regular for Pakistan?

This scorecard is of 1st ODI against Netherlands in 2022. In this game Agha Salman was sent after Rizwan, Shadab, Nawaz & Khushdil. I am wondering what was the thought process of team management at that time. They couldn't even identify at that time that Agha is the proper batsman rather they sent part timers above him. Then we saw clear injustice against him in 2023 WC.
 

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Exactly, he's superior to shadab in every way
There is a massive problem Pakistan shoving the same 11 into every format. There is a thing as having format specialists. Ifti might be a short term solution as an off spin bowling all rounder in t20’s but salman def does not need to replace him in t20’s. Perhaps salman can be useful in Odis.

Shadab is strictly for t20’s and even then I’m not sure.

Saim has more chances in T20’s than tests.

I think at the moment Saman does really well with the lower order in tests so leave him there and develop him more in odi’s as the next tours to Australia and Africa will separate the boys from the men.
 
Salman needs to bat at 4 or 5.

He is capable of scoring big hundreds.

Rizwan should bat at 7.
 
There is no need of tinkering with his position. He is owning his slot. Let him be where he is.
 
Salman needs to bat at 4 or 5.

He is capable of scoring big hundreds.

Rizwan should bat at 7.
There's no reason to. He has been batting superb with the tail. Let him play. Pakistan needs a player like him below in tough situations. Moreover I believe with his technique against pace he will find it tough up top.
 
In a world of Shadabs, Iftikhars and Nawaz - be an Agha Salman.

I would much rather have a batsman like him who can be handy with the ball when needed as opposed to these fake all-rounders that are good at neither and play selfishly.
 
In a world of Shadabs, Iftikhars and Nawaz - be an Agha Salman.

I would much rather have a batsman like him who can be handy with the ball when needed as opposed to these fake all-rounders that are good at neither and play selfishly.
He has been the best player for Pakistan, especially in red-ball format.

There is literally, no need to change his position. He should stay where he is batting. He might be the next captain soon.
 
Salman has climbed eight places to secure the 14th spot with a new career-high rating in the latest ICC Test batter rankings.

He is now the highest-rated Test batter from Pakistan, surpassing teammates Babar Azam (19th), Mohammad Rizwan (21st), and Saud Shakeel (27th) thanks to his recent performances.
 
Salman has climbed eight places to secure the 14th spot with a new career-high rating in the latest ICC Test batter rankings.

He is now the highest-rated Test batter from Pakistan, surpassing teammates Babar Azam (19th), Mohammad Rizwan (21st), and Saud Shakeel (27th) thanks to his recent performances.
Wth Rizwan was 7th a couple of weeks ago???
 
He is a batsman you can rely on... he’s that consistent. So why not utilize him higher up the order maybe at the 4th position?
 
Probably a Punjabi meeting between Naqvi and Agha:

Naqvi: Praa eh keh rahe ne Symonds nu kaptaan bana diye. Mainu te darr lag reya eh. Tu ki kehnda eh?

Agha: oh tension na leyo sir, Kar leyange setting!
 
I’d love to see him develop his bowling a little more for 50 over cricket. Keep it tight in the middle overs.
 
Salman Ali Agha appointed as vice-captain for Pakistan's ODIs and T20Is
Salman Ali Agha while addressing the press conference today:

"Any team going to play in Australia knows it’s not an easy place. We’re aware of this and will prepare accordingly. Just because we go there doesn’t mean we won’t get good results."

"Some things happen for the first time, and you never know, we might win the series there. We will give it our all, and the results will follow."
 
In a world of Shadabs, Iftikhars and Nawaz - be an Agha Salman.

I would much rather have a batsman like him who can be handy with the ball when needed as opposed to these fake all-rounders that are good at neither and play selfishly.
Ahem Ahem useless allrounder ain't Agha also from that category, atrocious when playing pace
 
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Ahem Ahem Fake allrounder ain't Agha also from that category, atrocious when playing pace
Give me a list of players in Pakistan who are complete – those who can handle spin, pace, bounce, and everything else.
 
That's the issue , and we are lagging behind other teams even the Premier batsman Babar Azam gets stuck against leg spin.

Saud has issues with fast bowling
Give me a list of players in Pakistan who are complete – those who can handle spin, pace, bounce, and everything else.
 
That's the issue , and we are lagging behind other teams even the Premier batsman Babar Azam gets stuck against leg spin.

Saud has issues with fast bowling
This is where your thinking’s off.

You’re never going to find 11 Bradmans in one team. Cricket’s a team sport, not an individual one.

You’ll have guys who handle pace better and others who play spin well. When you mix them, you’ve got a complete team.

This is where the captain’s job comes in—you’ve got to use your players in the right situations.

For example, Asif Ali can hit big, but he’s not great down the order, so he should be used in the first powerplay. Rizwan and Babar aren’t big hitters, so they shouldn’t open.

You also need players who play spin better, maybe coming in after the 6th over. And you need guys who can keep the ball on the ground and find gaps towards the end.

When you put it all together, that’s how you get a solid team. You won’t find all those skills in one player.
 
This is where your thinking’s off.

You’re never going to find 11 Bradmans in one team. Cricket’s a team sport, not an individual one.

You’ll have guys who handle pace better and others who play spin well. When you mix them, you’ve got a complete team.

This is where the captain’s job comes in—you’ve got to use your players in the right situations.

For example, Asif Ali can hit big, but he’s not great down the order, so he should be used in the first powerplay. Rizwan and Babar aren’t big hitters, so they shouldn’t open.

You also need players who play spin better, maybe coming in after the 6th over. And you need guys who can keep the ball on the ground and find gaps towards the end.

When you put it all together, that’s how you get a solid team. You won’t find all those skills in one player.
Stopped reading at Asif Ali, thank you very much yes cricket is a team game people should understand, what if the hitters fail on the given day , mostly it is with Pakistan hitters
 
Stopped reading at Asif Ali, thank you very much yes cricket is a team game people should understand, what if the hitters fail on the given day , mostly it is with Pakistan hitters
No point replying if your not going to read the post fully carry on cheer leading rizwan and babar
 
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Ahem Ahem useless allrounder ain't Agha also from that category, atrocious when playing pace
T20 is not his format. In Test he has shown guts. Even in Australia Test he showed fight and scored 50s when everyone else was being pathetic with the bat - players with better technique
 
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T20 is not his format. In Test he has shown guts. Even in Australia Test he showed fight and scored 50s when everyone else was being pathetic with the bat - players with better technique
An average of 45 across 17 tests is impressive for a lower-order batsman, especially with 3 centuries and 9 fifties to their name.

Yet, some who claim to have an eye for talent and have been following domestic cricket since the 2000s still lack basic understanding.
 
An average of 45 across 17 tests is impressive for a lower-order batsman, especially with 3 centuries and 9 fifties to their name.

Yet, some who claim to have an eye for talent and have been following domestic cricket since the 2000s still lack basic understanding.
Before him we had Asad Shafiq. Who averages 38 in Test Cricket. Salman players much more positively than he ever did.
 
Agha Salman must concentrate only on ODIs and Test his technique doesnt allow him to play T20 format.
 
17 Tests, 24 ODIs and three T20Is so far

1,695 runs and 20 wickets in international cricket

Happy birthday to Pakistan's white-ball vice-captain Salman Ali Agha
 
He is bowling very well so far in the 2nd ODI.

4 overs 12 runs and 2 wickets. Important ones as well.

He should contribute more with the bat though.
 
He has done well in test cricket with some soft scores which haven't impacted anything. Just a part timer with ball. Also does not looks an odi or t20 material. Another Shadab Khan in making by handing him over vice captaincy and treating him as some special or extraordinary talent.
 
He has done well in test cricket with some soft scores which haven't impacted anything. Just a part timer with ball. Also does not looks an odi or t20 material. Another Shadab Khan in making by handing him over vice captaincy and treating him as some special or extraordinary talent.
He is not soft he is the reason pak is back in test cricket name on batter who is as good as agha down the order vs spin even so called great like joe root looked clueless on those spinning pitches.
 
He is not soft he is the reason pak is back in test cricket name on batter who is as good as agha down the order vs spin even so called great like joe root looked clueless on those spinning pitches.
English players were never good against spin, the fact you guys came to know after ages. As far as Agha is concerned, he is just an okay player.
Pak is back because of sajid & nauman and preparing right kind of pitches in these subcontinent conditions.
 
English players were never good against spin, the fact you guys came to know after ages. As far as Agha is concerned, he is just an okay player.
Pak is back because of sajid & nauman and preparing right kind of pitches in these subcontinent conditions.
Well you think its some kind of joke to prepare spin tracks ask aqib javed who put all the hard yards to prepare spin tracks it takes some doing and it was not easy dropping your best players likes of shaheen naseem babar it played with their egos.
 
Well you think its some kind of joke to prepare spin tracks ask aqib javed who put all the hard yards to prepare spin tracks it takes some doing and it was not easy dropping your best players likes of shaheen naseem babar it played with their egos.
Then pak should have some training from indian curators how to prepare these kind of tracks regularly.:giggle: Conditions are not alien in Pakistan as compared to India.
 
Was such an innings in death overs against a minnow side like Zimbabwe justified?

(3rd ODI: Pakistan vs. Zimbabwe)

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3rd lowest S/R and 3rd lowest average in T20Is among main teams (since 1/1/2022):
Minimum balls faced 30.



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Never rated this guy.

He doesn’t even pass the eye test.

Who has been hyping him here?!?!?
 
Shan is captain in tests. Salman is captain in T20.

Pind level IQ reaping rich rewards.
 
He won you test series vs england with his down the order runs with tail put some respect on his calibre.

Ok genius what is he doing in T20s and ODIs?

He’s an absolute dud white ball player.

Still a lot to prove in Tests before one starts giving him respect in that format.
 
Ok genius what is he doing in T20s and ODIs?

He’s an absolute dud white ball player.

Still a lot to prove in Tests before one starts giving him respect in that format.
He is an spin all rounder option he can get you wickets with his handy off spin like we have seen in odis and got mature head.
 
He is an spin all rounder option he can get you wickets with his handy off spin like we have seen in odis and got mature head.

So far it’s your word against his zero performance or potential in batting.
 
It's obvious that he was lacking confidence but once picked these guys need a few games. That's why the original selection has to be right because if he was good yesterday, then he is good enough to be given a run.
 
Don't think he is a top.order or middle order batsman. Even in Tests most runs he scored were at no 7 and.no 8 batting position where the ball is older and bowlers are tired. In T20 anyone batting at those positions have to have 5th , 6th gear.
 
We should give him more chances… just like we did with Chacha.. none of y’all kept the energy to bash Ifthikhar when he playing like this … double standards typical Pakistani awaaam
 
If destroying a player reputation is an art, then PCB and management is the biggest clown board ever you can witness.

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4 innings ... 31 balls... 1 four.... in T20Is.
 
Where are the loyal and rational Pakistan fans who want to adapt modernism in the team , waiting for their take on this
 
Salman started his T20 career as vice capitan very unusual add to it he has played 4 games with a meagre avg of 4½ & SR 58.

A new low in Pakistan cricket definitely, early days but the signs are not good :ua
 
I will still back him at number 4 only if Rizwan and Babar are not in the 11.
 
I regret making this thread now that ik their better spinners and better batters and better allrounders ready to replace him.

The context of this thread was Agha vs Shadab but it seems that sheddy is dropped for good now
 
Salman Ali Agha's 32 off 32 balls in the 3rd T20I against Zimbabwe was far from impressive.

In a format that demands quick scoring, his slow knock failed to build momentum and left Pakistan struggling.
 
He has demonstrated why Babar & Rizwan only want to open
 
Ironically his replacement in T20Is is going to be Saud Shakeel for some. Lol
None of the captaincy candidates are t20 material and that's a fact.

1) Rizwan
2) Shan
3) Saud
4) Agha

^^ Neither are captaincy material
 
None of the captaincy candidates are t20 material and that's a fact.

1) Rizwan
2) Shan
3) Saud
4) Agha

^^ Neither are captaincy material
Shaheen was the best choice for T20I to captain and in WT2024. In the meanwhile they could've groomed either Saim or Harris with them as captain for future.

But we know in Pakistan the path towards a goal isn't straightforward
 
Only the 2nd Pakistani captain after King Babar to lose an T20i vs Zimbabwe. Congratulations
 
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