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England seem over confident and they have an inexperienced side too. Might be a closer series than a lot of people are thinking.
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I am not in favour to give him even 1 more series .. why not try Huraira who is young and looking promising.To be honest Abdullah his position in the squad is in doubt he proberly has one more series.
Unfortunately surgery never happened, they are trying to fix the gashes with homeopathic medicineThey definitely have taken all happiness hormones from Pakistan’s fan post surgery.
No Khurram Shahzad either? Oh dear Pakistan fans . That is a real minnow bowling attack.England are slightly overrated but do Pakistan have the bowlers to stop that lineup?
They couldn't stop Litton, Mehidy and Mushfiqur even.
Pakistani bowlers are extremely mediocre.
Maybe Ghulam could've replaced Shan if PCB were bold .
But apart from that, there are no better players for this format.
Not sure who is selecting such a pathetic squad. ABDULLAH AND SAIM again???
on what basis?? Where is Kamran Ghulam???
Why Noman ali>??? Why Shan ( because he is the English-speaking captain)??
What is Shaheen doing in the squad??
How can you exclude Rizwan from the list of politicians? He's the supreme leader, the mastermind.Bad squad. Fakhar Zaman should have been picked, Rizwan or Sarfaraz should be the captain. Politicians Babar & Shaheen shouldn't be picked for 2-3 series.
Rizwan hasn't captained Pakistan on a full time basis, he should be given an opportunity. Never know it can turn the tide for Pakistan.How can you exclude Rizwan from the list of politicians? He's the supreme leader, the mastermind.
I think he s 41 bro its a tough ask if he s selected.I think Noman will deliver. If he gets a turning track, he will show his experience.
No surgeryWth??? Surgery???
Im sure Nouman is 41 ish and he wont be troubling the english batters as he s not a huge turner of the ball.Faisal Akram has 3 FC games under his belt. Sufiyan has 0. Qasim Akram and Mubasir aren't specialist spinners, they're allrounders and Qasim a fringe one too.
Does Zafar Gohar even want to play for Pakistan at this point? He seems satisfied to play in UK and considering he doesn't ever selected for A teams or Shaheens, I don't think he is in the place for whatever reasons.
I get people knocking Nauman selection but this is simply because Pakistan spin options are an utter disgrace. Nauman is at least an experienced veterans and has given some performances in Tests matches that have been good but most have been ordinary. Plenty of right handed batsmen in England lineup so having a left arm off-spinner to cover your basis with Abrar leg/mystery spin + left arm off-spin and part-time off-spin with Ayub/Salman.
Shan Masood will need to win and have a good series if he wants to retain his captaincy and spot. Kamran/Hurraira will be taking his spot as soon as his captaincy ends.
kyun bhai?Nauman ali will create havoc mark my word...he will be the highest wicket taker in the series
Saim is there as he offers an option with the ball.Not sure who is selecting such a pathetic squad. ABDULLAH AND SAIM again???
on what basis?? Where is Kamran Ghulam???
Why Noman ali>??? Why Shan ( because he is the English-speaking captain)??
What is Shaheen doing in the squad??
Ben Ducket licking his lipsUpdate: Pakistan Test Squad
Leg-spinner Zahid Mahmood will join the pre-test camp in Multan as the 16th player. However, the Pakistan squad will be trimmed to 15 members for the first Test, starting October 7.
Kamran Ghulam and Muhammad Ali will serve as reserves but continue playing domestic matches to remain match-ready. According to the PCB, all three players are part of the Pakistan Test team set-up, but 15 players are sufficient for home Tests due to cricketing and logistical reasons.
Kamran Ghulam and Muhammad Ali will benefit more from playing domestic cricket than sitting in the dugout.
England struggles against left arm spinners who are accuratekyun bhai?
would he be playing for England in this series?
They don't.England struggles against left arm spinners who are accurate
I Still believe in Nauman AliThey don't.
Legspin against all but Brook and Duckett.
Left arm pace against all but Ben Duckett.
Those are the only bowling types that somewhat work against England.
Who is the admin guy making these decisions. I want to throw a stone at their houseUpdate: Pakistan Test Squad
Leg-spinner Zahid Mahmood will join the pre-test camp in Multan as the 16th player. However, the Pakistan squad will be trimmed to 15 members for the first Test, starting October 7.
Kamran Ghulam and Muhammad Ali will serve as reserves but continue playing domestic matches to remain match-ready. According to the PCB, all three players are part of the Pakistan Test team set-up, but 15 players are sufficient for home Tests due to cricketing and logistical reasons.
Kamran Ghulam and Muhammad Ali will benefit more from playing domestic cricket than sitting in the dugout.
Last time this guy was hit 6 boundaries in an over by some random England batter.Update: Pakistan Test Squad
Leg-spinner Zahid Mahmood will join the pre-test camp in Multan as the 16th player. However, the Pakistan squad will be trimmed to 15 members for the first Test, starting October 7.
Kamran Ghulam and Muhammad Ali will serve as reserves but continue playing domestic matches to remain match-ready. According to the PCB, all three players are part of the Pakistan Test team set-up, but 15 players are sufficient for home Tests due to cricketing and logistical reasons.
Kamran Ghulam and Muhammad Ali will benefit more from playing domestic cricket than sitting in the dugout.
Why? The admin guy is giving you the squad that you want?Who is the admin guy making these decisions. I want to throw a stone at their house
Imagine whinging when things have been exactly how you want for the past 5 years.Why? The admin guy is giving you the squad that you want?
He's making rizwan full front and center for you? Babar too?
Exactly!!Imagine whinging when things have been exactly how you want for the past 5 years.
Just imagine how these guys would be if things are done properly
Same guy whinging right now said in the Panthers v Stallion’s thread that everything in Pakistan is Tier 2 without Babar and Rizwan…Exactly!!
You guys want Babar and Rizwan in all formats and they full front and center in the squad? And that's all that they cared about?
They don't want any other batter to begin with so what's the issue?
Their wish was a bunch of random names and numbers in the squad as long as Babar and rizwan exist? They've gotten their wish?
What squad do they want?
Guaranteed 40 runs? It’s not against Bangladesh. England ended his Test career last time they were aroundJoe Root- guaranteed 60 runs
Rizwan- guaranteed 40 runs.
In between them which player from the X1 steps up that extra will win the games for his team.
What has been Rizwan's impact?Joe Root- guaranteed 60 runs
Rizwan- guaranteed 40 runs.
In between them which player from the X1 steps up that extra will win the games for his team.
He ensures Pakistan doesn’t lose by an inningsWhat has been Rizwan's impact?
And that is wrong?He ensures Pakistan doesn’t lose by an innings
He is not Viv Richards. He has a job and he implements it. Gets some runs, safe catcher/keeper and a calming influence and cricket awarenessWhat has been Rizwan's impact?
Bari mehrbani Rizwan ki…And that is wrong?
What has he won for Pakistan? Pakistan were no.1 T20I side before he was a regular and now they are no.7.He is not Viv Richards. He has a job and he implements it. Gets some runs, safe catcher/keeper and a calming influence and cricket awareness
Why not the same question for the other 10 players or 14 players in squad who are not even giving returns in the same ball park?What has he won for Pakistan? Pakistan were no.1 T20I side before he was a regular and now they are no.7.
Pakistan didn't lose the only home test series in last 2.5 years in which he didn't play. While they lost every home test series he featured in.
The guy who replaced him in the home test series against NZ saved those tests for Pakistan. He is the same guy who had led Pakistan to 11 consecutive t20i series wins.Why not the same question for the other 10 players or 14 players in squad who are not even giving returns in the same ball park?
You have to answer it for Rizwan because you said Root guaranteed 60 runs and Rizwan gaurenteed 40 runsWhy not the same question for the other 10 players or 14 players in squad who are not even giving returns in the same ball park?
I have nothing against Sarfaraz but you are telling me that because Sarfaraz won 11 t20s as captain where his own performance was average in Dubai, he should walk into the test side over Rizwan. Sorry no cricketing logic there. As a batsman and keeper there is no contest between current day Sarfaraz and Rizwan (key word current day. May be Sarf was better in his youth).The guy who replaced him in the home test series against NZ saved those tests for Pakistan. He is the same guy who had led Pakistan to 11 consecutive t20i series wins.
Root most consistent player in England. Rest of the squad are maverick bazballers or newbies.You have to answer it for Rizwan because you said Root guaranteed 60 runs and Rizwan gaurenteed 40 runs
Now answer up after singling him out only.
So Rizwan is 75% the Test Batsman Root is?Root most consistent player in England. Rest of the squad are maverick bazballers or newbies.
Rizwan most consistent player in Pak- rest are out of form or newbies.
60 to 40 I think is a decent ratio for their talents.
Sarfaraz might not have been exceptional with the bat but the batting order wasn't compromised for him. Pakistan played like a team under Sarfaraz. Rizwan hasn't had any positive impact on Pak cricket unless you believe not losing by an innings is an achievement for their team.I have nothing against Sarfaraz but you are telling me that because Sarfaraz won 11 t20s as captain where his own performance was average in Dubai, he should walk into the test side over Rizwan. Sorry no cricketing logic there. As a batsman and keeper there is no contest between current day Sarfaraz and Rizwan (key word current day. May be Sarf was better in his youth).
You Misbah fans are so obsessed and weird.Eagerly waiting for the thrashing of Shaheen that he truly deserves. Going to be an exciting series whenever England bats.
Root guarantees wins. He doesn't leave England hanging on 60 runs.Joe Root- guaranteed 60 runs
Rizwan- guaranteed 40 runs.
In between them which player from the X1 steps up that extra will win the games for his team.
Mate I’m honestly considering a Rizwan v Root thread for Test cricket nowRoot guarantees wins. He doesn't leave England hanging on 60 runs.
He's one of the best test players of all time and definitely England's best in the modern era and arguably or debatabley their best ever
The guy knows how to play test in all facets and not a single player in the world atm understands the test game better then he does besides maybe steve smith when he was inform.
Rizwan plays for himself and yes I agree in test the criticism for rizwan is unwarranted in that he scores runs for his side like he did vs Australia and Bangladesh however he doesn't know how to play test at all, Againat Bangladesh he kept giving strike to tail enders deapite pakistan heavily collapsing in the 2nd innings test. All he had to do was anchor at the other end and guide the no 7/8 to bat alongside him and get the game to a draw. To put into context Australia has done so multiple times.
Instead he gave over 80% of the strike to the tail while he went in his way for a 50 and Bangladesh ended up winning easily, Compare that with Liton Das who experts batted with hasan Mahmud and Mehidy and made sure that Pakistan's lead was ineffective
And liton das isn't even close to licking root's boots yet even he has a better understanding of the test game then rizzu.
You're insulting root by comparing him to rizwan. Theirs more to root in test then simple run scores. It's not about the runs root's scores but the way and context of which he scores them in given the situation.
Root guarantees wins. He doesn't leave England hanging on 60 runs.
He's one of the best test players of all time and definitely England's best in the modern era and arguably or debatabley their best ever
The guy knows how to play test in all facets and not a single player in the world atm understands the test game better then he does besides maybe steve smith when he was inform.
Rizwan plays for himself and yes I agree in test the criticism for rizwan is unwarranted in that he scores runs for his side like he did vs Australia and Bangladesh however he doesn't know how to play test at all, Againat Bangladesh he kept giving strike to tail enders deapite pakistan heavily collapsing in the 2nd innings test. All he had to do was anchor at the other end and guide the no 7/8 to bat alongside him and get the game to a draw. To put into context Australia has done so multiple times.
Instead he gave over 80% of the strike to the tail while he went in his way for a 50 and Bangladesh ended up winning easily, Compare that with Liton Das who experts batted with hasan Mahmud and Mehidy and made sure that Pakistan's lead was ineffective
And liton das isn't even close to licking root's boots yet even he has a better understanding of the test game then rizzu.
You're insulting root by comparing him to rizwan. Theirs more to root in test then simple run scores. It's not about the runs root's scores but the way and context of which he scores them in given the situation.
Think a million times before writing something like you did earlier.I am not comparing Root vs Rizwan. I am comparing consistent/ best batter in Team A vs Team B.
Test cricket is not about consistency. Yes consistency matters 100% but Misbah was also consistent. He was way more consistent then someone like saeed Anwar, yousaf, Inzi etc etc but no one in their right mind would ever claim that Misbah is a better batsmen them saeed, Yousaf or inzi.I am not comparing Root vs Rizwan. I am comparing consistent/ best batter in Team A vs Team B.
2-3 yrs back I would probably have said Babar but looks like he hit a rough patch. Rizwan type players are never out of form, they play cricket with their guts and temperament rather than talent. Root is obviously naturally gifted.
You are giving the impression that Pakistan is an inferior cricketing nation, akin to associates. Pakistan fans have every right to believe their team cam improve, given their team's record in the past.I am not comparing Root vs Rizwan. I am comparing consistent/ best batter in Team A vs Team B.
2-3 yrs back I would probably have said Babar but looks like he hit a rough patch. Rizwan type players are never out of form, they play cricket with their guts and temperament rather than talent. Root is obviously naturally gifted.
Test cricket is not about consistency. Yes consistency matters 100% but Misbah was also consistent. He was way more consistent then someone like saeed Anwar, yousaf, Inzi etc etc but no one in their right mind would ever claim that Misbah is a better batsmen them saeed, Yousaf or inzi.
And that's because out of 15 of Yousaf's odi 100's, 14 of them pakistan won and 10 of them yousaf went not out and personally took pakistan over the line whereas misbah has a portfolio of Mohali, Feb 2012 England game, 2013 sa game etc etc and that's because everytime he walked in game was either balanced or pakistan was ahead of the rr but misbah's style of batting killed the tempo, put pressure in the other end leading to them throwing their wickets away and losing the game.
Rizwan is the same when he left the tail hanging, Compared to sarfi's innings vs NZ or Liton Das's innings this series against Pakistan both batters showed how to bat with the tail, How to nullify the lead, And how to bide your time for either a draw or forcing a result on the opposition. Sarfraz ensured a draw by wasting time while Das put pressure in pakistan by biding his time with the tail and slowly slowly nullifying the lead.
Joe Root is multitude's of multitude's level above das and sarfraz, hjs understanding and playing style badly eclipses those 2.
Cricket is a team game and consistency has to come with the cost of winning a game for your team or putting them in a favourable position.
The 1st test could have been a draw if rizwan did what liton das did and actually sided his time with the no 7/ no 8 and ended the day giving Bangladesh hardly any overs. Instead by giving 80% of the strike to tail enders while he kept rotating he crippled pakistan as their was a wickets glaore at the other end. Rizzu's situation was a 100× easier the das's situation as he had to bat nearly 4 hours with hasan mahmud who's a far far weaker tail then even naseem in terms of batting.
What does this have anything to do with what I said?Since I started watching cricket, here is how I rate Pak keepers.
First with no ranking in random order
Moin Khan- one of the clutch white ball batsmen I have seen play for Pak and an incredible striker
Rashid Latif- I know him more from his YouTube channel than his cricket but I have seen him play decent knocks and was a decent keeper. However the dr saab on his YouTube calls him the greatest technical keeper ever so will take that with a pinch of salt.
Kamran Akmal- technically the most sound keeper batsmen Pak has produced. Could cut and pull, had no real issues vs pace or spin but probably based on his
Keeping had focus and temperament issues. Keeping less said the better.
Sarfaraz- tactically the best as captain among the lot, very mediocre batsman and safe keeper but not athletic.
Rizwan- sum of all parts -batting + game reading + keeping probably makes me rate him highly.
Not counting for part timers like Umar Akmal and some other keepers who were just stop-gap.
Sorry, was a separate post but looked like it automatically quoted your post that I might have clicked beforeWhat does this have anything to do with what I said?
Test cricket is not about consistency. Yes consistency matters 100%
Baba Saigol, the correct decision would have been to give Riz the captaincy.Why? The admin guy is giving you the squad that you want?
He's making rizwan full front and center for you? Babar too?
Oh my bad, I forgot you want to destroy the team not improve it. How could I forgetBaba Saigol, the correct decision would have been to give Riz the captaincy.
Baba SaigolBaba Saigol, the correct decision would have been to give Riz the captaincy.
I like it tbh, I don't mind. The name fits.Baba Saigol
And that’s going to do what exactly?Baba Saigol, the correct decision would have been to give Riz the captaincy.
VictoryAnd that’s going to do what exactly?
He sings the anti Riz song in a pretty but out of tune way, hence the title.Baba Saigol
Very funnyHe sings the anti Riz song in a pretty but out of tune way, hence the title.
They should've really played FC tournament. Would've found out the best performers, fitness and form of players.Basically this squad has just 1 fast bowler who looked good in the last few games and that is Mir Hamza. Khurram is injured, Shaheen is a finished bowler atm, Aamer Jamal is still untested.
Batting is pretty weak as well.