Where's your stats you're making claims no on watches ipl. Sky ain't stupid to buy broadcasting rights every year and broadcasting it on msin events channel.
We need to use the IPL window. We lose nothing and the comparison of the 2 will show that money alone doesn't lead to quality. Look at the terrible standard of the IPL relative to the massive salaries paid by the IPL
Well you can check the IPL figures on the Internet( until recently). The highest viewing figures on the IPL were on ITV 4 and they averaged around 400,000 and that was free to air. Assuming that half of those were Inds, that leaves 200,000 viewing figures for this global league
You said it all "assumption" talk when you have factsWell you can check the IPL figures on the Internet( until recently). The highest viewing figures on the IPL were on ITV 4 and they averaged around 400,000 and that was free to air. Assuming that half of those were Inds, that leaves 200,000 viewing figures for this global league
Just the 2 on the at the same time would send the IPL into panic. The comparison would suit the PSL. The gap in salaries is far bigger than the gap in quality
Exactly my point
Do they enhance the brand? Do they make add real value? They are more like decorative pieces than any substantial players
The IPL is big in the cricketing World but it has no global presence, none at all. No one cares who wins or loses and the fact that cricket only has a real presence in the 5 SC countries means that it never will. Off course the diaspora will watch but nothing outside this. I think the confusion stems from the media we watch and read and whose job it is to sell copy.
I think the head to head is the real prize. Comparisons will be made and as we have seen the quality is better in the IPL but nowhere near the hype suggests.
You are also comparing 2 cricket leagues only. PSL is not some Soccer league.
Cricket isn't World wide and the IPL isn't a global brand. You guys see some click bait on the media and run with it as if it were fact. IPL is incredibly popular in India and the Indian diaspora and PSL is incredibly in PK and PK diaspora. These are the only facts
The quality of the IPL has been poor this year. Have you seen the scores and bowling this year. The PSL is the only league where people care who wins and loses. The SA league has no passionate Sport, even SA cricket fans won't be able to tell who played this year, never mind who won. The reason is that SAs passion is football and Rugby. I can tell you the same about the 100. PSL has 250mn behind it and its the only thing that matters in PK as far as franchise cricket is concerned
In PSL fans care so much that nobody turns up at the stadiums to support their teams
During WPL stadium was packed. There are lot of things for PCB to worry about pSL before even talking about going head to head with IPL.
The Lahore and Pindi Matches were well attended, some Matches were played in Ramazan but Karachi was poorly attended but in some part that was more to do with the effort it took to get to the Matches. But no one cares for the IL or the legends.
It isn't. Cricket in SA is dying, The board took a few dollars and sacrificed the national team. Many of the games had 5 or 6000 people.
We need to use the IPL window. The target audience is local. The standards in the IPL are higher but not much higher. Have you seen the games this year?
The quality of the league isn't difficult to decipher. You don't a PHD to tell if the quality of the league is poor.
Yea right lol Cricket in SA is not dying. It is the opposite. You keep underplaying every leagues. First ever SA20 final was attended by 22000 people. But in reality they are massive success financially. DIdn't PCB suffer massive loss due to revenue sharing model they have in place now? If anything most of the attendnace of PSL matches were dwarfed by woman's premerie league that happened at the same time in India. PSL is behind in many areas even comparing with womens' premiere league let alone Men's league. Pakistan has to fix those first. League cricket requires a lot of professionalism. Professionalism is probably the most alien concept for PCB. This topic is not even a realistic topic in PP. Only a couple of you think that this is a "great idea". Others are being more practical.
It shows your lack of understanding of the bigger picture that you quote the crowd of 22000 as great success. SA cricket is in crisis, it has lost all its sponsors, it has stopped playing Test cricket voluntarily( hopefully not in the long term) and it has no stars like in Rugby with Siya. The crowds overall were poor, Parl had around 3000 people, Durban only around 5000. Look at the engagement on social media and you see little engagement. PSL has 250mn PKs, and that alone is more than enough to challenge any league as viable alternative
So by sacrificing their international team, they are in a better place. Interesting
Except in T20 they are ranked above Pakistan. Even there they are only one spot below.
SA with their fast bowling resources should be top 3 in all forms. PK is in poor place so no real comparison
Low attendence was only in National Stadium, Karachi. In face a few of its matches literally had no crowd. Barring the Final which was full like the games in Rawalpindi, Multan and Lahore.
Whatever floats your dinghy biradar , me actually thought comparing PSL for size & draw [ internationally ] to IPL is comical when even cricket boards are forced to avoid major tours during IPL or send teams like Kiwi's did ! What say @Rana @Mamoon @160KPH @BouncerGuy @FearlessRoar - any thoughts ?
just 1 more not so small point , how many times did a PSL game have a stadium full o spectators ?
It would be comical if the IPL was playing on a different plane, it isn't. The standard of the IPL is decent but nothing compared to the hype. Look at the mostly average bowlers( especially the pace bowlers) and you see the myth for what it is. We lose nothing by going to head, both are locally followed leagues and by shear numbers Ind has an advantage but the PSL is a PK brand and it will get the fans in better weather
& how is the attendance in stadiums
This is the moment which is defining future of bilateral series.
still sad T20 leagues screwing Int cricket , more so Tests
Nothing to do with the IPL. We are a PK brand, we have a captive audience of 250mn, what does that have to do with IPL.
You could get a decent sized audience from bang and lanka too
It makes no difference as they have no Pay tv market. We need to make sure we make our product as good as it could be with proper development of home talent, especially from the rural areas
Who said PsL is not a PK brand? If you had so much captive audience that make a difference; you should be the 2nd richest board after India automatically. How come Bangladesh board does better financially? They have a large population too and their on field performances are worse. Your arguments are very juvenile. The point is Pakistan lacks capacity or quality resources when it comes to production values, marketing, maintaining a professional decorum etc etc so no matter what you suggest,returns will be give or take the same. Your arguments are more wishful thinking and assumptions than any tangible data. Thats something that’s the harsh truth. Not that Pakistan has 0 potential but it can only win by colliaborating with the big guns. Going against them will only be counterproductive. What you are saying is no less out there than Pakistan should compete with America in technology type of post. Doesn’t mean Pak doesn’t have any engineers or smart folks. Just not practical or feasible.
IPL has the money and a billion Ind following, PSL has 250mn passionate PKs following it, BBL and SA has little passion but has some money behind it.
The fact that PCB is poor is more to do with complete clowns running it and no pay TV. The mess of the economy has made things worse.
Why not. If there is no other slot available then it is fine. Let do what is best for the league. Arrange the auction after the IPL and it will be okay I think because many big players do miss the IPL and there is no real threat to PSL broadcast in Pakistan.
Lots of hopes and dreams in this line of thinking vs actual critical analysis by the PCB. They need to get in touch with the broadcasters, get in touch with player reps to gauge the appetite of playing in PSL during the IPL, go on the offensive, etc etc. it seems like the PCB is just assuming so many things vs being pro active as always. If they’re going head 2 head against the IPL, which to my knowledge is the first time any league will do so, they need to plan for war not pin their hopes on assumptions. Only then will they have any chance of coming out alive.
This can work perfectly fine on paper but PCB and Pakistani fans should prepare themselves for the possibility of IPL rejects leaving PSL after getting called up by an IPL franchise after the frontline IPL stars get injured.
I don’t think this is much of a problem. PSL feeding off the scraps from IPL leftovers will already be humiliating enough for PCB. BCCI don’t need to do anything else. Just sit back and enjoy the misery of PCB.
The PSL has a golden opportunity to use the window to play in good weather, outside the Ramadan period and carve out a niche.
I don't see any problem players leaving to follow the money. Our PK players are the stars of the PSL. Whether Rovnan Powell or others play or not, makes little difference to the PSL
As I said who says my Posts aren't read by decision makers. One of the big proposed changes in rugby is the 20min red card and that also came about after a proposal I made.
This is spot on. Investing in facilities, the broadcast quality, the analysis will be so important. Would like to see The Pavillion type show for the duration of the PSL, improve the on screen graphics quality, get players to explore their cities and interact with fans. Make it a real league not something we shoe horn in every year that seems forced and rushed.
It's a whole package. We need massive investment in practice facilities and better pitches for domestic players to develop and hone their skills.
Exactly.
Please post against impact player rule in IPL. Its not cricket.
I’m not sure what there is to do in Bangladesh that’s significantly better vs Pakistan? In professional leagues, there is an entire player liaison department that works with the families, wives etc. to help them get acclimatized to their new surroundings. PSL can easily set one up, I’m sure these exist in multinational companies operating in Pak. Everything is there, just need competent management and a get it done attitude.
