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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] What now for Babar Azam?

Babar was out of form but he still ends up being the best batter of Pakistan on an away tour. LOL

that is how bad things are in Pakistan.

Babar is your best batter and people have to accept it in the end.
 
heddie19 said:
of course, we all know that he has/was been going through a slump. Put some more salt on it, he has played very little Test and ODI cricket in the time frame you have mentioned. But good thing that he is regaining his form across formats. What better than if he is saving his centuries for the Champions Trophy? ;)
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Very little? Since Nepal E azam he played 11 more odi's in 2023 + 2 warmups + 14 t20 games in 2024 + 6 odi games in 2024 + 8 test games?

He played 39 international games in 1 year + 4 months? How is that low?
 
BouncerGuy said:
Babar was out of form but he still ends up being the best batter of Pakistan on an away tour. LOL

that is how bad things are in Pakistan.

Babar is your best batter and people have to accept it in the end.
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No he wasn't 🤣🤣. Ironically it was shan.

Although babar as a batter is > Shan masood in any format. This was a one off from shaani.
 
As I have said numerous times, the runs will start flowing across formats in 2025 and beyond. This SA tour was just a precursor of what is to come.

I know such things like the back of my hand so believe me. I may or may not be around in a few years but you can bump this post.

Between 2025 and 2029, Babar will score heaps of runs across all formats and surpass his 2019-2021 peak. He is entering his prime years now and by 2029-2030, he will be unanimously considered as Pakistan’s GOAT batsman.
 
Countries against which Babar Azam has 0 Test centuries: (min. 5 Tests played)

South Africa and West Indies
 
Mamoon said:
As I have said numerous times, the runs will start flowing across formats in 2025 and beyond. This SA tour was just a precursor of what is to come.

I know such things like the back of my hand so believe me. I may or may not be around in a few years but you can bump this post.

Between 2025 and 2029, Babar will score heaps of runs across all formats and surpass his 2019-2021 peak. He is entering his prime years now and by 2029-2030, he will be unanimously considered as Pakistan’s GOAT batsman.
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2 months ago I would have laughed at this.

However you have predicted eng vs Pakistan series and even predicted India vs aus despite the initial Perth thrashing.

The only prediction you have been wrong about since I came here was Pakistan beating India for the 2nd time in the cup however you were still mostly right about Amir and imad being significant contributors in a defeat.

Hence this prediction may come true.
 
Babar Azam scored half-centuries in both innings of the second Test against South Africa and now he has climbed five spots to 12th in the latest ICC Test batting rankings.

Babar getting his form back.
 
Mamoon said:
As I have said numerous times, the runs will start flowing across formats in 2025 and beyond. This SA tour was just a precursor of what is to come.

I know such things like the back of my hand so believe me. I may or may not be around in a few years but you can bump this post.

Between 2025 and 2029, Babar will score heaps of runs across all formats and surpass his 2019-2021 peak. He is entering his prime years now and by 2029-2030, he will be unanimously considered as Pakistan’s GOAT batsman.
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Insha'Allah. Just hoping he doesn't get married in a World Cup year.
 
mominsaigol said:
Very little? Since Nepal E azam he played 11 more odi's in 2023 + 2 warmups + 14 t20 games in 2024 + 6 odi games in 2024 + 8 test games?

He played 39 international games in 1 year + 4 months? How is that low?
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adding warm up games. ROFL :D
 
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no matter whatever metric you use, You will find Babar Azam among the top performers fro Pakistan.
 
So Babar Azam got PKR 7 crore yearly deal with CA, he will also get bonus for scoring 50s ,& 100s.

Fair deal ??? ain't the bonus will encourage stat padding , can the PCB step in to make this clause null & void.
 
Imran Khan, the former Pakistan captain, is currently the fifth-highest run-scorer for Pakistan against the West Indies in international cricket, with 1,977 runs. Babar Azam, with 1,676 runs to his name across all formats, is just 302 runs shy of surpassing the legendary all-rounder.

Additionally, Babar and Imran Khan share the same number of half-centuries (11) against the West Indies. If Babar scores just one more half-century in the upcoming series, he will move ahead of Imran Khan in this particular record as well.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Babar was out of form but he still ends up being the best batter of Pakistan on an away tour. LOL

that is how bad things are in Pakistan.

Babar is your best batter and people have to accept it in the end.
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This is the problem with Pakistan & Pakistan fans, you have such low standards and celebrate meaningless performances.

You should be asking a lot more from a player with Babar’s talent, yet here we are; ‘He’s the best batter we have’ better then what exactly ? Is his ceiling now being compared to a player of Shan Masood’s talent ?
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Imran Khan, the former Pakistan captain, is currently the fifth-highest run-scorer for Pakistan against the West Indies in international cricket, with 1,977 runs. Babar Azam, with 1,676 runs to his name across all formats, is just 302 runs shy of surpassing the legendary all-rounder.

Additionally, Babar and Imran Khan share the same number of half-centuries (11) against the West Indies. If Babar scores just one more half-century in the upcoming series, he will move ahead of Imran Khan in this particular record as well.
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You’ve written this as though IK’s performances against THAT WI team are somehow on par with Babar’s hypothetical achievement of another milestone worthy of a Qurbani in his local village.
 
Mamoon said:
As I have said numerous times, the runs will start flowing across formats in 2025 and beyond. This SA tour was just a precursor of what is to come.

I know such things like the back of my hand so believe me. I may or may not be around in a few years but you can bump this post.

Between 2025 and 2029, Babar will score heaps of runs across all formats and surpass his 2019-2021 peak. He is entering his prime years now and by 2029-2030, he will be unanimously considered as Pakistan’s GOAT batsman.
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Yeah Babar did well in this tour.

Did you read the back of your hand when you said Ashwin has surpassed Imran as an allrounder and then took a 180 after one year?

You don't know squat!
 
Poor form continues... This guy is having serious issues in his batting... Nicked it to the keeper off Jayden's delivery.

Gone for 8
 
BouncerGuy said:
Poor form continues... This guy is having serious issues in his batting... Nicked it to the keeper off Jayden's delivery.

Gone for 8
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Wasted review. That was a huge nick there.

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Kianig89 said:
So Babar Azam got PKR 7 crore yearly deal with CA, he will also get bonus for scoring 50s ,& 100s.

Fair deal ??? ain't the bonus will encourage stat padding , can the PCB step in to make this clause null & void.
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With a deal like that, did he take the review to give extra time and exposure to his bat sponsors?
 
Maybe the bat sponsors told Babar that ‘we have created a bat which doesn’t allow snicko to detect any edges”

That’s why he took the review? @Kianig89
 
What a beautiful day, until Babar bats again you will know that I will keep reminding you all of that hilarious review :ROFLMAO:
 
Rana said:
What a beautiful day, until Babar bats again you will know that I will keep reminding you all of that hilarious review :ROFLMAO:
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Honestly i didn't get the point of this? Is he really that clueless that he doesn't know that he knicked it?

Ya waisei veleyain marnei kei lyei review lya?
 
Rana said:
Maybe the bat sponsors told Babar that ‘we have created a bat which doesn’t allow snicko to detect any edges”

That’s why he took the review? @Kianig89
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#ranalogic strikes again. Great imagination bro.
 
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Rana said:
What a beautiful day, until Babar bats again you will know that I will keep reminding you all of that hilarious review :ROFLMAO:
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Rizwan still out there bro unbeaten after a 50. How beautiful can it be
 
BouncerGuy said:
Poor form continues... This guy is having serious issues in his batting... Nicked it to the keeper off Jayden's delivery.

Gone for 8
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Is he still out of form? It's been two years now, and it's getting a bit confusing. One moment he scores a 50, and he's "back in form." Then, if he fails, he's "out of form" again. The cycle repeats when he scores another 50, and suddenly, he's "back in form." This guy seems to go in and out of form way too frequently.
 
emranabbas said:
CA crying in the corner what a waste of 7 crores
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Gray Nichols dropped Babar because they were sick of the meme material on social media.

Very good decision, it won’t be GN being laughed at when pics of that review become memes
 
Was he hoping for an optical illusion?
 

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Fails again in the 2nd inning as well against Windies in the 1st test... Just 5 for him.

It is safe to say that boy is a walking wicket
 
I’m surprised he was forced out of a review there by Shan

Excellent leadership. Put the foot down on this spoilt brat!
 
Ever since he lost the captaincy he’s mentally started to go down into melt down mode.

Limited time in the team if he carries on playing like a school kid.
 
His average will drop below 40 if he keeps going like this.Need to play domestic cricket for few months before going back to Pak team to improve his skills
 
Fanboy375 said:
His average will drop below 40 if he keeps going like this.Need to play domestic cricket for few months before going back to Pak team to improve his skills
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It’s not possible as it would hurt his ego and that of his fans, but it’s the right approach. He should have returned to domestic cricket after 2022 when his decline began, but he seems to suffer from a superstar syndrome.
 
Tanvir Ahmed, while speaking on a show on a local sports channel:

"The issue with Babar is that his bat slightly moves outward when the ball is delivered, especially outside off-stump. He needs to work on this because he often gets out from this area. When he goes to play such deliveries, his bat doesn’t have a high backlift like other batters; it stays centered. However, as the ball moves slightly outside, his bat goes outward instead of lifting or leaving it. That’s where I feel he faces a problem."

"When you consistently get out in the same way, it means you are not only putting pressure on yourself but also giving bowlers a clear idea of your weakness. Specifically in Test cricket, if bowlers consistently bowl in one area for two or three overs, Babar struggles. This has become evident, and we can see it affecting him."

"He doesn’t have major issues, but this slight movement of his bat when playing deliveries outside off-stump is creating problems for him. This is something he needs to address because it’s starting to put him under pressure."
 
FearlessRoar said:
Tanvir Ahmed, while speaking on a show on a local sports channel:

"The issue with Babar is that his bat slightly moves outward when the ball is delivered, especially outside off-stump. He needs to work on this because he often gets out from this area. When he goes to play such deliveries, his bat doesn’t have a high backlift like other batters; it stays centered. However, as the ball moves slightly outside, his bat goes outward instead of lifting or leaving it. That’s where I feel he faces a problem."

"When you consistently get out in the same way, it means you are not only putting pressure on yourself but also giving bowlers a clear idea of your weakness. Specifically in Test cricket, if bowlers consistently bowl in one area for two or three overs, Babar struggles. This has become evident, and we can see it affecting him."

"He doesn’t have major issues, but this slight movement of his bat when playing deliveries outside off-stump is creating problems for him. This is something he needs to address because it’s starting to put him under pressure."
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@Rana @mominsaigol do you agree?
 
FearlessRoar said:
@Rana @mominsaigol do you agree?
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Naw, my take has always been that Babar has a very poor backfoot.

He's good at punishing full length deliveries but short pitched deliveries or even waist high will get rid of him. It's also why he's horrible against pace. He can't cut or pull and the only front foot shot he can play on such deliveries which is the sweep shot he can't play.
 
mominsaigol said:
Naw, my take has always been that Babar has a very poor backfoot.

He's good at punishing full length deliveries but short pitched deliveries or even waist high will get rid of him. It's also why he's horrible against pace. He can't cut or pull and the only front foot shot he can play on such deliveries which is the sweep shot he can't play.
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Well well well everything is poor about him yet he has 11000+ runs in international cricket
 
Kianig89 said:
Well well well everything is poor about him yet he has 11000+ runs in international cricket
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So? Since when does no of runs equate to being a good player?

Babar has always been a horrible test and t20 player. He's only ever been a good odi batter and in odi hes just good. He isn't revolutionary or anything.
 
Kianig89 said:
I don't want anything, neither painting anything just using #ranalogic
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You jumped in this discussion with 11k plus runs argument, so it makes sense to shut your argument down by discrediting his inflated T20 numbers.

He’s not a T20 batter anyways and on top of it, those runs are hardly intentional standard with the level of bowling he faces at this standard.

His actual numbers and indictment of his true caliber is his Test runs. And the fact that he may be getting exposed in this too is alarming. @emranabbas raised an excellent point where he was averaging 70 at home during the Saqlain/Ramiz era but he can’t buy a run now since they have left.
 
mominsaigol said:
So? Since when does no of runs equate to being a good player?

Babar has always been a horrible test and t20 player. He's only ever been a good odi batter and in odi hes just good. He isn't revolutionary or anything.
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Yes no of runs does not matter, good theory but back it with empirical evidence
 
Rana said:
You jumped in this discussion with 11k plus runs argument, so it makes sense to shut your argument down by discrediting his inflated T20 numbers.

He’s not a T20 batter anyways and on top of it, those runs are hardly intentional standard with the level of bowling he faces at this standard.

His actual numbers and indictment of his true caliber is his Test runs. And the fact that he may be getting exposed in this too is alarming. @emranabbas raised an excellent point where he was averaging 70 at home during the Saqlain/Ramiz era but he can’t buy a run now since they have left.
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Those test pitches were a joke bro. Imam and Abdullah went not out drawing a test against Australia and formed a 150 run partnership ON A 5TH DAY TEST PITCH?

I REPEAT IMAM AND ABDULLAH FORMED A 150 RUN PARTNERSHIP AGAINST STARC, HAZLEWOOD, CUMMINS, LYON ETC ETC IN A 5TH DAY TEST PITCH.

It's why Australia doesn't take Pakistan seriously.

It's also why I respect England. They put pakistan in their place by forcing a result. Australia didn't cause aus didn't care really.
 
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mominsaigol said:
Those test pitches were a joke bro. Imam and Abdullah went not out drawing a test against Australia and formed a 150 run partnership ON A 5TH DAY TEST PITCH?

I REPEAT IMAM AND ABDULLAH FORMED A 150 RUN PARTNERSHIP AGAINST STARC, HAZLEWOOD, CUMMINS, LYON ETC ETC IN A 5TH DAY TEST PITCH.

It's why Australia doesn't take Pakistan seriously. 2 number nation.

It's also why I respect England. They put pakistan in their place by forcing a result. Australia didn't cause aus didn't care really.
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They don’t understand the difference and requirement in formats. They compile all the runs in all formats together when portraying him as a batsman.

Those scores on home phattey should be wiped out completely from record books. For both sides. The wickets should remain, those are hard earned.
 
Rana said:
Guys like Deewani Kiani won’t understand this.

They don’t understand the difference and requirement in formats. They compile all the runs in all formats together when portraying him as a batsman.

Those scores on home phattey should be wiped out completely from record books. For both sides. The wickets should remain, those are hard earned.
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I mean tbf lots of batters benefitted from stat padding on phattas. Babar isn't the only one. Laxman, Williamson, Kallis, Steve smith, Sachin, Pointing, root and many others also benefited.

The difference is excluding maybe Laxman minus Eden gardens, The names I've mentioned have bashed quality bowlers in tough outfields especially kallis, pointing and Steve smith while Babar is a bunny on any pitch that offers balance.

Shan would be averaging 40+ if given those pitches since he can easily smack 150 on those pitches.

Babar in actuality Is a 30 to 35 avg test batter, a 40 to 42 avg odi batter and a 30 avg t20 batter with a low sr.

^^ These are his actual numbers if he didn't benefit from c sides and pitch curation.
 
mominsaigol said:
Babar in actuality Is a 30 to 35 avg test batter, a 40 to 42 avg odi batter and a 30 avg t20 batter with a low sr.

^^ These are his actual numbers if he didn't benefit from c sides and pitch curation.
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Came to type exactly this. Deadest of tracks and C sides/minnows are the only reason he even averages 40 in Tests. PCB's carefully built brand Babar was a very well crafted campaign that served it's purpose commercially. Time to move on to newer faces now.
 
His Test average has dropped to 43.32

9 centuries in 106 innings.

1 century in SENA.

Pretty underwhelming numbers so far in Tests. If I were a Pak fan, I wouldn't be so proud.​
 
Kwena Maphaka spoke during an interview with a media outlet:

"Firstly, Babar is definitely one of the greats of this generation. I think he's an incredible batter. We had plans for him, just like we do with every other batter. I really just think of it as a bowler versus a batter. Whether you're bowling to an Under-19 player or Babar Azam, at the end of the day, you're still trying to get the batter out. So I just try to keep it as simple as possible and stick to the plans that we had for him. It worked out really well."
 
"Babar Azam has spent the most days as the top-ranked ODI men's batter. Could he break Sir Viv Richards' record?

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19 Hundreds in 123 games what now for Babar Azam. Averaging 57 in ODIS what now for Babar Azam , kamal ha ???

Hopefully he will score couple of centuries during the triseries and CT
 
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