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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] What now for Babar Azam?

Here are my 2 counter arguments for certain Babar Fans.

His replacements are not talented enough.

So far that's not the case. Kamran Ghulam scored a century against Zimbabwe and against england. For all those accusing Zimbabwe to be a minnow, Babar isnt exactly performing against top sides atm.

Furthermore Saud Shakeel is comfortably better then bobby in tests and he ain't going nowhere, far higher chances of Saud being moved to no 4 and KG at no 3 after Shan retires.

You also have t20 where omair and saim seem to be doing a better job opening then Ba/riz atm.
 
mominsaigol said:
Here are my 2 counter arguments for certain Babar Fans.

His replacements are not talented enough.

So far that's not the case. Kamran Ghulam scored a century against Zimbabwe and against england. For all those accusing Zimbabwe to be a minnow, Babar isnt exactly performing against top sides atm.

Furthermore Saud Shakeel is comfortably better then bobby in tests and he ain't going nowhere, far higher chances of Saud being moved to no 4 and KG at no 3 after Shan retires.

You also have t20 where omair and saim seem to be doing a better job opening then Ba/riz atm.
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only problem with Saud is his ability to tackle pace. he is very good against Spin no doubt
 
Aqib is playing it smartly, he of course cannot boot both Rizwan and Babar out immediately but the stage is being set for them to expose themselves especially Babar who is completely out of place.

I still feel he might have a place in ODI team, but definitely not in test or t20I team at the moment.

If they perform, and help Pakistan, they stay. It they fail, they get the boot. Win-win for the fans.
 
In Odis he still is a good player, shouldn’t play t20s at all as he can’t clear the boundaries.

He can get better in tests specially in SENA conditions where spin doesn’t come into the equation that much, I don’t think there’s any risk on his career.
 
Saud is not that much of a good player, and his own place in tests was under severe doubt until recently. So i dont see any merit in him being selected for ODI team. He was selected by Babar for ODIs and we all know how that went down.

We need to give players like Omair chance in ODIs.
 
Good that Aaqib made it clear for Babar... did he do the same for other pathetic players in the squad??

shan??? abdullah??
 
Selected for all 3 formats now... Can he do any better in T20s especially???
 
Salman Butt discussed Babar Azam during an interview with a local YouTube channel:

"Yesterday, I was watching Babar Azam from a distance, and I was thinking about how people often criticize his strike rate, intent, and lack of big hitting. As a high-class player, you shouldn’t resort to slogging. If you want to add shots to your game, it should align with percentage cricket. You should also take your fitness to the highest level and add high-percentage shots to your repertoire.

When you walk to the crease, you’re not there to play just five overs. Your role is to play the full quota of overs and score a big century, allowing the other players to build their innings around you. Situations may arise where you need to hit boundaries—it’s modern-day cricket, after all, with high-scoring games and huge totals. People expect a high-class player to hit big shots.

However, if he doesn’t add power to his game and instead starts playing ramp shots or reverse sweeps, I don’t think those will benefit him as much as improved fitness and shot extension would. But again, this is just my perspective. He is a very big player and understands his game better, and the coaches working with him will also have their own advice for him."
 
The Undisputed no.1 batsman in Pakistan currently, nobody can challenge him yet another series and its proved.

Babar still the best batsman in Pakistan. Hopefully somebody will give him competition but atm there is no one.

Babar should focus on SA series.

For Haters keep Sulking :aag
 
Kianig89 said:
The Undisputed no.1 batsman in Pakistan currently, nobody can challenge him yet another series and its proved.

Babar still the best batsman in Pakistan. Hopefully somebody will give him competition but atm there is no one.

Babar should focus on SA series.

For Haters keep Sulking :aag
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The no 1 batsmen is avg 28 with a sr of 110 in his last 7 T20 games?
 
BouncerGuy said:
Time is up for him IMO.. this should be his last T20 series.
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Babar Azam losing form hurts cause people forget that he amd fakhar were the main opening duo that caused us to reach no 1 rank.

In 2018 fakhar would kick off once in 10 games but when he did his 91 of 46 or 70 of 30's were lethal while Babar did very well to bat around everyone.

Babar was 100× better at batting till the 20th then rizwan

Babar + Rizwan opening duo hurt his reputation, them captaincy ruined it, then his rubbish form in 2022 ruined it, and finally Nepal E Azam And Bangladesh test series was the final nail in the coffin
 
mominsaigol said:
Babar Azam losing form hurts cause people forget that he amd fakhar were the main opening duo that caused us to reach no 1 rank.

In 2018 fakhar would kick off once in 10 games but when he did his 91 of 46 or 70 of 30's were lethal while Babar did very well to bat around everyone.

Babar was 100× better at batting till the 20th then rizwan

Babar + Rizwan opening duo hurt his reputation, them captaincy ruined it, then his rubbish form in 2022 ruined it, and finally Nepal E Azam And Bangladesh test series was the final nail in the coffin
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You are right. babar needs Saim, not rizwan. Rizwan should play at 3 if he thinks that he cannot drop himself.
 
BouncerGuy said:
You are right. babar needs Saim, not rizwan. Rizwan should play at 3 if he thinks that he cannot drop himself.
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Babar needs to improve form plain and simple. Back to his 2019 form. Atm he feels like steve smith however smith is 36 and has already achieved the pinnacle of his test career while Babar is suppose to be a 30 year old prime batter.

At this point Babar has recieved

A) world class batting coaches to help him.

B) Motivational speech from every head coach that you will see something g special today notably mickey Arthur in 2022 wc.

C) fan hype on the king returning

D) Rubbish commentators shouting the mantra " THE KING STANDS TALL YET AGAIN"

E) NCA training

F) Rehabilitation and mental Spirts Psychologist training

Like oh bhai abh kya cha hi yei? Next thing you know someone will notice how rubbish his backfoot is and ask for Bobby to undergo a kidney transplant 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏻.

Their is no excuse for a batter who is in his prime to bat so poorly irrespective of batting partners. He is not smith or kohli who have already had 10x the career bobby had at the exact same age
 
It should be end of him from pakistan t20is team.
Odis is his best format he should stick with it and just drop himself from t20is.
 
I am afraid this is the end of Babar as an international cricketer. His poor form in the test series will seal his fate.

Cricket is just like life. You grow as a player or you die out.
 
chinaman00 said:
I am afraid this is the end of Babar as an international cricketer. His poor form in the test series will seal his fate.

Cricket is just like life. You grow as a player or you die out.
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Life is more about the choices you are given and what you make of it. It's why life is unfair because the most successful people on this planet recieved better choices and chose them correctly.

Babar was lucky in life. He was born to a family with cricketing connections and was able to choose the path of cricket.

But it's his choices that led to his downfall. The choice to open in t20 with an unsuitable partner, the choice to curate road pitches for tests to boost averages which ultimately led pakistan to lose test series as every nation can outbat pakistan, the choice to let go of his fitness and his exercise routine.

I honestly believe babar fell off the moment those test pitches were curated. They were way too easy to score on. And hence any normal pitch just gets rid of him
 
Following his dismissal in the 1st T20I against South Africa, Babar Azam now has the joint 3rd most ducks in T20Is by a Pakistani batter

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Babar just has a bad run of form, it has affected every player ever so nothing to worry about. We are talking about the GOAT Pak batsman here. I am sure he will come good if he opens today. At least a 50 today if he opens.
 
RidiculousMan said:
Been so long man. I want him to boss Maphaka and Peters like he was bossing Magala and Williams
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I wouldn't mind if he scores. I want him back in form.

I will mind if rizzu scores. Because he is not t20 material.
 
Babar Azam started strong but couldn't get a half century, gone after making 31(20) against South Africa in the 2nd T20I
 
Babar Azam Completed 11000 Runs In T20 Cricket as well.

Innings - 298
Runs - 11020
Average - 43.40
Hundreds - 11
Fifties - 90
Best - 122
 
Did pretty well yesterday. Didn't waste too many balls, got out on trying to hit big. That's how his approach should be in t20 format.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Babar just has a bad run of form, it has affected every player ever so nothing to worry about. We are talking about the GOAT Pak batsman here. I am sure he will come good if he opens today. At least a 50 today if he opens.
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GOAT Pak batsman? Why not call him the GOAT Pak captain as well?
 
Pakistan batter Babar Azam surpassed West Indies legend Chris Gayle on Friday to become the fastest batter to amass 11,000 runs in T20 cricket.

Chris Gayle achieved the feat in 314 innings, however, Babar Azam took only 298 innings to score 11,000 runs in T20 cricket.

However, Shoaib Malik and Babar Azam also hold the record for slowest to reach the milestone in terms of strike rate. Shoaib completed his 11,000 runs at a strike rate of 127.47, while Babar’s strike rate was 129.37.
 
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Jason Gillespie in a recent interview has been all praise for Babar Azam:

"Babar is a very driven individual. He works so hard on his game;he's an elite player. A fantastic player, one of the best players I've been fortunate enough to work with. I really enjoyed working with him. He sets high standards, not only for himself but also for his teammates. It's almost like he expects the same standards of everyone that he sets himself. He trains incredibly hard and keeps himself incredibly fit, robust and strong. He works tirelessly on his game, whether it be his batting, his fielding, or even his offies (Off spin bowling) in case he's called up to bowl. He's a great cricket tragic and a great man who works incredibly hard. The decision was made by the selectors (to drop him), I had been removed from that process, and the decision was made to not play him(against England)."
 
Babar Azam moved up one spot to sixth place in the latest T20I batter rankings. He is still the number 1 ODI batter as well.
 
Its quite shocking for a player to become a has been at 30?

Ik babar was never in the class of smith as a test batter, Kohli as an odi batter and Warner as a t20 batter,

But he wasn't that bad in odi? Even if you remove the 5 stat pad wi bashing × zim + nz c, nepal, Aus c, sa c

He still has 6 odi centuries against top sides at an avg of 45 with a sr of 85. That's not too bad?

Infact the avg would probs reach 50 if it wasn't for India record.

Its really shocking to see what happened? Hit hit a 150 vs nepal and a century against nz c team and then India Asia Cup game happened and since then he's failed against every tom dick and Harry team?

Even Ireland?

Don't understand what happened?
 
mominsaigol said:
Its quite shocking for a player to become a has been at 30?

Ik babar was never in the class of smith as a test batter, Kohli as an odi batter and Warner as a t20 batter,

But he wasn't that bad in odi? Even if you remove the 5 stat pad wi bashing × zim + nz c, nepal, Aus c, sa c

He still has 6 odi centuries against top sides at an avg of 45 with a sr of 85. That's not too bad?

Infact the avg would probs reach 50 if it wasn't for India record.

Its really shocking to see what happened? Hit hit a 150 vs nepal and a century against nz c team and then India Asia Cup game happened and since then he's failed against every tom dick and Harry team?

Even Ireland?

Don't understand what happened?
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Karma bro

It’s all fair. His disgraceful decisions as a T20 captain and also his dodgy selections for the World Cup 2023, then his backstabbing of Shaheen.

“His judgement cometh and his right soon…”
 
Rana said:
Karma bro

It’s all fair. His disgraceful decisions as a T20 captain and also his dodgy selections for the World Cup 2023, then his backstabbing of Shaheen.

“His judgement cometh and his right soon…”
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I'm aware of what he did, However he was always known as a butcherer of weak attacks?

Usa, Canada, Ireland, followed by Aus(3rd odi c string attack), and sa t20 attack should have been right up his alley?

In the 3rd odi he went not out but still looked uncomfortable

Not to mention those road pitches where Bangladesh and the first test vs England was played.

I expected him to score their and then fans would have done bhrangra and said look at babar and rizwan scoring 170 against Bangladesh etc etc.

Very surprised to see him fail these games.

Not surprised for other games like India, 1snt and 2nd odi vs aus and odi vs sa, he wasn't ever that good against A string attacks.
 
mominsaigol said:
I'm aware of what he did, However he was always known as a butcherer of weak attacks?

Usa, Canada, Ireland, followed by Aus(3rd odi c string attack), and sa t20 attack should have been right up his alley?

In the 3rd odi he went not out but still looked uncomfortable

Not to mention those road pitches where Bangladesh and the first test vs England was played.

I expected him to score their and then fans would have done bhrangra and said look at babar and rizwan scoring 170 against Bangladesh etc etc.

Very surprised to see him fail these games.

Not surprised for other games like India, 1snt and 2nd odi vs aus and odi vs sa, he wasn't ever that good against A string attacks.
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Bro it’s cricket. International cricket. There are limits to insanity

It was insane to allow Rizwan to statpad with his style of batting in those couple of years where his fans were making him out of be better than Warner and Gayle.

International teams, international coaches learn and make things right. When was the last time you saw Rizwan nail his leg side hoick for 6? He’s either lost hope in it after getting bowled by Bumrah, or he just isn’t getting the ball in that region anymore.

Similarly for Babar, most teams have understood that the guy gets a lot of momentum in his batting when he is driving the ball well for boundaries. Hence, you will always see the short cover to block that region and making Babar think more about how he can not hit fielders and find gaps like he used to. He also has been found out with pace, he doesn’t really get to face wayward pacers (above 140kmh) like he used to as frequently. The guys bowling 130-140kmh on a length are doing enough to make this man think about what he needs to do to find boundaries and not just dab it to 3rd man.

Another thing I clearly noticed was his shuffle across to left handers. This will be the end of him (I think, I could be wrong), because he completely is a sitting duck for LBW and even the exposed leg stump. His balance is shifted to the off and that’s why you will see him getting caught down leg or giving soft catches to short midwicket.

The Baartman dismissal was also because of imbalance shifted to the off whilst he was looking to flick to midwicket
 
Rana said:
Bro it’s cricket. International cricket. There are limits to insanity

It was insane to allow Rizwan to statpad with his style of batting in those couple of years where his fans were making him out of be better than Warner and Gayle.

International teams, international coaches learn and make things right. When was the last time you saw Rizwan nail his leg side hoick for 6? He’s either lost hope in it after getting bowled by Bumrah, or he just isn’t getting the ball in that region anymore.

Similarly for Babar, most teams have understood that the guy gets a lot of momentum in his batting when he is driving the ball well for boundaries. Hence, you will always see the short cover to block that region and making Babar think more about how he can not hit fielders and find gaps like he used to. He also has been found out with pace, he doesn’t really get to face wayward pacers (above 140kmh) like he used to as frequently. The guys bowling 130-140kmh on a length are doing enough to make this man think about what he needs to do to find boundaries and not just dab it to 3rd man.

Another thing I clearly noticed was his shuffle across to left handers. This will be the end of him (I think, I could be wrong), because he completely is a sitting duck for LBW and even the exposed leg stump. His balance is shifted to the off and that’s why you will see him getting caught down leg or giving soft catches to short midwicket.

The Baartman dismissal was also because of imbalance shifted to the off whilst he was looking to flick to midwicket
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Rizwan still tried that hoick in both zimb and Aus and got hurt badly on the chest lol. He still tries it, just is failing at it now. Can't seem to hit it anymore.

For rizzu nowadays 90% of bowlers bowl in the offside or Angle it into it him, They don't bowl to him straight in the body or leg anymore.

As for Babar, he's suffering from Ahmed shehzad syndrome of not being able to find gaps and has to do the impossible.

Its why batters need to master a skill set.

Travis head has mastered the offside, He'll punish you if you bowl their, He has a million shots for it.

Butler plays so many unorthodox strokes it's impossible to plan for him.

Top level batters don't allow you to settle cause they've mastered their craft.
 
Babar is out of form but hopefully he will get into form soon.I don’t know who can replace Babar.Many good batsmen have gone through phases where they lost form but they regained form and started scoring big runs.
 
A big score is just round the corner. He is a world class player and you can’t keep world class players in their prime quiet for long.

I have said many times his best in all formats is yet to come, and the runs will start to flow like never before in 2025 and onwards.
 
A welcoming fifty for Babar Azam against South Africa in the 2nd ODI. Hope it helps him get into his rhythm now.

It is his first fifty in International cricket came after 22 innings

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Mamoon said:
A big score is just round the corner. He is a world class player and you can’t keep world class players in their prime quiet for long.

I have said many times his best in all formats is yet to come, and the runs will start to flow like never before in 2025 and onwards.
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The world isn't ready if his best is yet to come accross all formats. *Tuadee muu ich ghee shakkar*
 
Babar looked pretty solid in the last game. He was middling most of the deliveries. Strike-rate was on lower side but he can improve it. Good to see some runs behind him.
 
Babar Azam break MS Dhoni’s record of 38 half-centuries scored against SENA countries (South Africa, England, New Zealand, and Australia). Babar Azam surpassed this with 39 half-centuries, setting a new benchmark in cricket.
 
He is by far the best player in the Pakistan team. Anybody who think otherwise just isn’t right in the head. All players go through lean patches and have dips in form but to think that there is some young rookie who can come in and REPLACE one of the best players in the team is just Folly. (In tests and Odis)

Of course he alongside saud, Rizwan and salman makes a very solid middle order. Long gone are the days when he has to bat like he’s shouldering the burden of the team. A couple of new players are coming through so it allows the whole team to push their own ceilings. It’s good for the PCT confidence and strike rates improve when the burden is shared.
 
Babar Azam is on the verge of achieving a historic milestone in ODI cricket, as he approaches the feat of surpassing modern-day legends Virat Kohli and Hashim Amla

The top-ranked ODI batsman is set to become the fastest player to reach 6,000 runs in the format.

Currently, South Africa's Hashim Amla holds the record for the fastest 6,000 runs, achieved in 123 innings, while Babar Azam, with 5,905 runs in 119 innings, is closing in on this remarkable accomplishment. Virat Kohli, from India, reached the milestone in 136 innings.

Babar’s recent knock of 73 runs off 95 balls in the second ODI against South Africa on December 19 was crucial, helping Pakistan secure an 81-run win and signaling his return to form.
 
Despite all the criticism, the gulf between Babar and Rizwan is massive and it is an insult to compare Babar to a rubbish batsmen like Rizwan.

Babar is nowhere near the level of Travis Head who is the true no 1 all format batter in the world. However as a batter he is not a bad odi batsmen.

Removing his stat pads, He still has odi centuries against full strength aus, Full strength NZ, full strength eng and full strength sa.

Overall in his prime he was still pakistan's 2nd best batter after Fakhar Zaman.

But if Kamran ghulam is performing then he should replace an out of form Babar.
 
mominsaigol said:
Despite all the criticism, the gulf between Babar and Rizwan is massive and it is an insult to compare Babar to a rubbish batsmen like Rizwan.

Babar is nowhere near the level of Travis Head who is the true no 1 all format batter in the world. However as a batter he is not a bad odi batsmen.

Removing his stat pads, He still has odi centuries against full strength aus, Full strength NZ, full strength eng and full strength sa.

Overall in his prime he was still pakistan's 2nd best batter after Fakhar Zaman.

But if Kamran ghulam is performing then he should replace an out of form Babar.
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They can play in the same team. It’s easy to shuffle the lineup and get both in. We all know the weak spots are in the opening or lower down the batting definitely not in the middle. Plug the weakest gaps first
 
mominsaigol said:
Despite all the criticism, the gulf between Babar and Rizwan is massive and it is an insult to compare Babar to a rubbish batsmen like Rizwan.

Babar is nowhere near the level of Travis Head who is the true no 1 all format batter in the world. However as a batter he is not a bad odi batsmen.

Removing his stat pads, He still has odi centuries against full strength aus, Full strength NZ, full strength eng and full strength sa.

Overall in his prime he was still pakistan's 2nd best batter after Fakhar Zaman.

But if Kamran ghulam is performing then he should replace an out of form Babar.
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Babar hasnt really been out of form in odis thou.
 
shamaan said:
Babar hasnt really been out of form in odis thou.
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He has. Since that Nepal century he's flopped pretty much every game since then in odi.

It was only vs sa where he seemed to regain form.

Tbf to Babar he was confident vs aus as well. In the wc he seemed mentally shot. It's just he didn't kick off in aus but the shot and timing was their.
 
He still
mominsaigol said:
He has. Since that Nepal century he's flopped pretty much every game since then in odi.

It was only vs sa where he seemed to regain form.

Tbf to Babar he was confident vs aus as well. In the wc he seemed mentally shot. It's just he didn't kick off in aus but the shot and timing was their.
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He still has 5 half centuries after that.
 
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