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Initially pacy inswingers were troubling him... now he is becoming a bunny for spinners too.
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Adil Rashid, Hasaranga, Zampa, Maharaj and Santner all are bending him as per their preferenceInitially pacy inswingers were troubling him... now he is becoming a bunny for spinners too.
LOL which wins has he helped Pak in his so called ODI peak?Not a fan of Babar in T20’s but him struggling in ODI’s now will be a huge blow for Pakistan imo. If he isn’t performing then we’re going to struggle batting the full 50 overs.
LOL which wins has he helped Pak in his so called ODI peak?
Check his 100 vs Aus in Aus some years ago.
Babar always on top of the list in these sort of recordsMost innings batted without scoring a century in international cricket in 2024
27 - Babar Azam
27 - Saim Ayub
27 - Mitchell Marsh
25 - Virat Kohli
25 - Glenn Phillips
24 - Sadeera Samarawickrama
He's still a bunny to spin. Looks good against paceBabar looked much more confident yesterday. He got out the spinner once again but was in control most of the time before that. N
If Pakistan wants to play full quota of 50 overs then Babar is the key here.
Yep. The struggle against Spin is real. He was class against pace easily. Hoping to see a better job from him in the 2nd ODIHe's still a bunny to spin. Looks good against pace
The good thing is you can clearly tell odi is his favourite format and he's playing positively and looking to score.Yep. The struggle against Spin is real. He was class against pace easily. Hoping to see a better job from him in the 2nd ODI
This is true. Very True. He needs to show a bit more intent against spin if he is struggling on the back foot every time. He needs to be positive and attack.The good thing is you can clearly tell odi is his favourite format and he's playing positively and looking to score.
In tests he was getting out just for the lolz and in t20 he always seems nervous and frustrated.
In odi he's alot better and actually playing positively. Infact before zampa came on, he looked like he was ready to score a massive century, Cummins and starc weren't troubling him at all. Hardie was the only pacer who somewhat troubled him.
But this positivity means nothing if zampa gets him out in his first over
Test is his worst format brother. He isn't even interested in it. T20 is another format he isn't good at.If I were him, I'd immediately quit the T20 format and put all my focus on Tests, with ODI's being a distant second. You don't leave a legacy with your T20 exploits. And since he's struggling right now, he'd be better off concentrating on the other 2 formats.
But easier said than done. I can say it because I don't have a stake, and I'm an 80's kid. Modern day players don't quit the T20 format for obvious reasons. And I can't really blame them because I'm not in their shoes.
We don't really know which format he loves the most. So far with what we have seen so far, he has been at his best in the ODI format.Test is his worst format brother. He isn't even interested in it. T20 is another format he isn't good at.
Why not just focus on odi? He only wants to play odi?
Regardless, Saeed Anwar remains the best Pakistani batmsan I've seen. But my opinion is based on how he mostly performed against us throughout the 90's. Most Pakistani fans speak of their bowling attack in the 90's, but me as an Indian fan was most intimidated by a batsman in that team, and that was him.
Anwar > Inzi
Both are good batters though
And? Since when does a higher volume of games equate to being a better player?Inzamam played a voluminous number of games (tests and ODIs) compared to Anwar though.
Even somebody like Hafeez has played as many tests as Anwar.
And? Since when does a higher volume of games equate to being a better player?
By this logic shahid Afridi is top 5 greatest odi cricketers of all time?
Whatever you say bud.Nope, quality over a long career also counts.
Inzamam > Anwar >>> Afridi
Whatever you say bud.
Saeed Anwar was genuinely unmatched (ampung pakistani batters) and still is unmatched.
His daughters death made him lose interest in cricket which is why he retired early and why straight after his daughters death his form took a massive hit.
Depression got to him. It's not like Kohli who genuinely became rubbish over time especially in test cricket despite having no excuse to.
I don't consider saeed anwar's performance post his daughters death as a valuable metric to judge him on.
His golden years are unmatched and frankly his golden years lasted from debut till he became a berated parent.
Anwar is a heavily underrated batsmen mainly because Indians downplay him alot and many people use his performance post his daughters death against him.The crazy thing to fathom is that Saeed Anwar's SR in ODI's was 81 (at that time). Whereas Amir Sohail was thought of being an aggressive batter when his SR was just 65 loll
Babar's sr is 89 all those years later....
Shows how ahead of his time Anwar was and how slow Babar is
Babar's sr is 89 all those years later....The crazy thing to fathom is that Saeed Anwar's SR in ODI's was 81 (at that time). Whereas Amir Sohail was thought of being an aggressive batter when his SR was just 65 loll
Babar's sr is 89 all those years later....
Shows how ahead of his time Anwar was and how slow Babar is
None of that matters.Basit Ali speaking on his YouTube Channel:
“Babar Azam looked in good form today. His way of playing was top-class. Unfortunately, he played Adam Zampa off the back foot on a ball that he should have played on the front foot. His foot movement and how hungry he was for runs were good signs."
"Our people won't be happy with 37 runs, they want Babar to score 137. Similarly, the Indian fans aren't satisfied with Virat Kohli's 70-run knock, they want 170 from him. So, this is the case with a big player that there's no value if he scores a 50."
Making things up againsay this as someone who loved watching Saeed and also love watching Babar, but facts are facts.
The guys you mentioned are some of the best bowlers of all time?In ODIs, Anwar was rubbish against bowlers like McGrath, Donald, Pollock, Ambrose, Walsh etc.
In the mid to late 90’s, Pakistan cricket revolved around World Cups and Sharjah Cups vs India.
This is where Saeed made his mark. He was extremely good against weak attacks, and if you perform vs India you are always a hero.
Babar Azam with the same skill set would have been even better against the mediocre bowling that made a legend out of Anwar, and there is no way he would have been any worse against the top bowlers than Anwar was.
Stories become myths, myths become legends and legends become the ultimate source of truth that cannot be challenged.
Babar is a better batsman than Saeed Anwar on a level-playing field.
Saeed is a lot better than Abdullah and Imam. He isn’t better than Babar.The guys you mentioned are some of the best bowlers of all time?
Babar is rubbish against netravalkar and Zampa? Infact when has Babar ever dominated medicore bowling? Besides Nepal on a pindi road and Lyon on a pitch where Abdullah and Imam were batting like bradman on a day 5 pitch,
If you wanna talk about level playing fields, then sorry to say this, I don't think saeed Anwar is getting dismissed by the same sri Lankan bowlers of which even Abdullah scored an odi century against and scored a double century in test against.
If I were him, I'd immediately quit the T20 format and put all my focus on Tests, with ODI's being a distant second. You don't leave a legacy with your T20 exploits. And since he's struggling right now, he'd be better off concentrating on the other 2 formats.
But easier said than done. I can say it because I don't have a stake, and I'm an 80's kid. Modern day players don't quit the T20 format for obvious reasons. And I can't really blame them because I'm not in their shoes.
Even if you watch highlights, you'd realise their play against spin and pace is night and day.Saeed is a lot better than Abdullah and Imam. He isn’t better than Babar.
I did. I started watching cricket religiously in 1997-98.Making things up again
You never watched him play.
In ODIs, Anwar was rubbish against bowlers like McGrath, Donald, Pollock, Ambrose, Walsh etc.
In the mid to late 90’s, Pakistan cricket revolved around World Cups and Sharjah Cups vs India.
This is where Saeed made his mark. He was extremely good against weak attacks, and if you perform vs India you are always a hero.
Babar Azam with the same skill set would have been even better against the mediocre bowling that made a legend out of Anwar, and there is no way he would have been any worse against the top bowlers than Anwar was.
Stories become myths, myths become legends and legends become the ultimate source of truth that cannot be challenged.
Babar is a better batsman than Saeed Anwar on a level-playing field.
I don’t need to watch highlights because I watched him live. Saeed had no awareness of his off-stump and he was second only to Mark Waugh in terms of finding ways to get out casually, such as giving catch practice to slips or having his leg stump uprooted by walking across.Even if you watch highlights, you'd realise their play against spin and pace is night and day.
Saeed anwar's wristwork and footwork is 100× superior to babar's wristwork and footwork.
Infact I'd like to see babar even attempt a late cut against spin.
The only time I've seen babar punish bowlers is either against Nepal, or against rubbish bowlers in t20 or on those batting paradise test pitches.
It's a good thing Babar didn't play the 2nd or 3rd test. We might have won the 3rd test, but the 2nd test would have been a forgone conclusion since unlike KG, Babar wouldn't have scored a 100.
He couldn't score on pitches where 556 and 800+ scores were being tonked. Those spin galore pitches? Not a chance in hell.
And prime 2019-2021 Babar ain't special
One of the biggest myths on PP is that Saeed was better than Ganguly. In reality, he was nowhere near.In ODI, on PP, Anwar is the most overrated cricket to ever play the game.
People confuse his test exploits and stylish gameplay along with him being a left handed and portray him as one of the best in ODI’s.
He is like Sehwag in ODI’s, though Sehwag was more hit or miss albeit at a better win conversation rate due to higher strike rate/impact.
Babar has been useless against pace for years now. He's also been useless against Indian pacers throughout his entire life.I don’t need to watch highlights because I watched him live. Saeed had no awareness of his off-stump and he was second only to Mark Waugh in terms of finding ways to get out casually, such as giving catch practice to slips or having his leg stump uprooted by walking across.
Both Saeed and Mark Waugh were so good to watch because of their timing but they were also really frustrating to watch because they would be so casual at times.
Aesthetics and performance don’t always go hand in hand. Damien Martyn was far more aesthetically pleasing than Smith but not half the batsman.
I would pay to watch Saeed over Babar but I will not have him over Babar in my team in a level playing field. Babar is technically superior. In fact, he plays pure pace better than him. I would definitely give Saeed advantage over spin. He played the likes of Murali and Kumble better than Babar would have.
One of the biggest myths on PP is that Saeed was better than Ganguly. In reality, he was nowhere near.
Ganguly dominated far better bowlers than Saeed faced, for example, Pakistani bowlers. Also, few batsmen tamed South African pace attack of the 90’s better than Ganguly did and Saeed certainly wasn’t one of them.
Ganguly the ODI batsman is extremely underrated even amongst Indian fans. A phenomenal player.
Calling Anwar overrated is one thing.In ODI, on PP, Anwar is the most overrated cricket to ever play the game.
People confuse his test exploits and stylish gameplay along with him being a left handed and portray him as one of the best in ODI’s.
He is like Sehwag in ODI’s, though Sehwag was more hit or miss albeit at a better win conversation rate due to higher strike rate/impact.
Calling Anwar overrated is one thing.
Claiming Babar > Anwar with a straight face is another.
5 of Bobby's centuries are against wi when they had club bowling and their bowling was rubbish.I don’t follow cricket apart from the big events so can’t comment on Babar.
From the little I have seen of him he looks good, but his records seem to indicate he isn’t performing against big teams on big occasions.
Thanks for your advice.babar is very overrated even in odis which is his best format. He has scored tons of runs against mighty west indies and his favorite Zimbabwe.
He failed in 2023 world cup badly and in 2019 world cup he was decent other than that he has done nothing in his best format.
He should be kicked out from t20is obviously and he is a terrible test batsman but he should play in odis. He can perform now and then in odis.
Me in 1999 WC. Funn thing is that these Covid born kids think they're the expertsI did. I started watching cricket religiously in 1997-98.
The number of runs Babar scored in 2019 WC are highest by any pakistani batter ever in this history of cricket world cup. He did fail in 2023 WC but still averaged 42 with 4,5 fifties, that too when Chairman PCB was leaking his personal chats.babar is very overrated even in odis which is his best format. He has scored tons of runs against mighty west indies and his favorite Zimbabwe.
He failed in 2023 world cup badly and in 2019 world cup he was decent other than that he has done nothing in his best format.
He should be kicked out from t20is obviously and he is a terrible test batsman but he should play in odis. He can perform now and then in odis.
Couldn't agree more InshaAllah for him to be GOAT Pak batter. He already is the GOAT in white-ball cricket imo.Babar is a world class batsman already top 5 across all formats in Pakistan history. You have to be a complete moron with your brain in your knees to argue otherwise.
Purely in Tests he lags behind the likes of Miandad, Younis, Inzamam, Yousuf, Zaheer and even Saeed and Salim for now, but across all formats, his competition is only Miandad, Inzamam and Yousuf.
He still has 6-7 years left and more than enough to establish himself as the GOAT Pakistani batsman.
Can he be GOAT without a Wc? Or that condition is only for Indians.Babar is a world class batsman already top 5 across all formats in Pakistan history. You have to be a complete moron with your brain in your knees to argue otherwise.
Purely in Tests he lags behind the likes of Miandad, Younis, Inzamam, Yousuf, Zaheer and even Saeed and Salim for now, but across all formats, his competition is only Miandad, Inzamam and Yousuf.
He still has 6-7 years left and more than enough to establish himself as the GOAT Pakistani batsman.
Interesting fact is, this Test shirt of Babar Azam to be auctioned by the Usman Khawaja Foundation in a fundraiser before the Gabba Test in DecemberBabar Azam donated his shirt to Usman Khawaja for his charity foundation.
Great gesture from King.
Babar Azam donated his shirt to Usman Khawaja for his charity foundation.
Great gesture from King.
Kohli suffered a bad slump multiple times in his career but it was for one maybe 2 series.While it's true that he is just 30 years old, and that he has time in his hands. It's also true that any player with an international career spanning 10-15 years or more goes through bad phases. But remember, Kohli too was 30 years old when his downhill journey started. And that was the time when he was doing things even former batting geniuses would have found hard to match. He looked like he would score 130 international centuries. Posters were debating whether he was a man or a machine. Look where he is today.
Haan haan isko BBL waley araam se Le lenghe?Even with B teams being put out he is not able to make a difference, needs to go back to domestics or play BBL for improvement in this format.
I can see the justification nowBabar Azam in the T20I series vs Australia,
1st T20I : 3(2)
2nd T20I : 3(3
time to rest him from t20s as well.
lol sad but true.Babar always on top of the list in these sort of records
For the last year or so Pak have been experimenting with different opening pair other than RizBab because clearly the T20 format has evolved too.Some really promising players in your list except Haris who honestly bats like a hack every time I watched him since 2022 world cup.
For the last year or so Pak have been experimenting with different opening pair other than RizBab because clearly the T20 format has evolved too.
Hopefully we'll find real modern day openers soon because I too want Rizwan to retire now.
Remember it's not just the slam bang approach that is needed. You also got to have the calibre and skills to deliver in different match situations and conditions as an opener.
Babar can be kept at 3 if he's shows the will to play at a better tempo.