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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Wriddhiman Saha announce retirement from all forms of cricket [Post Updated #205]

If he is playing behind ashwin it shows how the team management thinks of his batting.

More evidence of your inability to analyze. Ashwin has recently been ranked the world's #1 all-rounder.
 
With time, Saha will win all of their hearts.

Not too long ago, people said there was not much difference between Saha and Parthiv's keeping (not that it was ever true). This is after Saha was in the international circuit for 1.5 years where his keeping was steady with rare screw ups. But from what we recently saw, Saha's keeping has become way better and right now, one could say he is head and shoulders above any keeper in the world (I don't recall anyone being better).

He ain't going anywhere. He has a lot of heart and I think the more he plays, the better he will perform with the bat.

Quite right you are SIF :)

Interesting that recently playing for ROI, Saha scored a double and Pujara a single. This test we have it reversed, hope their partnership is winning again.

Time to bring back the following classic posts, Saha trolling his critics again today:


Lets be really honest with his batting. He is a shocking batsman and a tailender.

His keeping is fantastic but he is a tailender.

However, he is a Tailender batsman. Cannot play spin or pace.
For the past 6 months our top order and middle order are scoring all the runs and Sah was scoring a few fifties with no pressure on him.

Well, I'm not impressed with Saha if you want me to be honest. He bats like a tailender and cannot be called a wicket-keep batsman.

Like I said previously, a mental fidgeting (while batting) midget
 
An old fashion player, concentrating on his first trade, keeping and he is the best. His batting is also more than useful and at par or better ( in tests ) than any WK at the moment. He is hard working and not a flamboyant player. Any team would be lucky to have a player like him.
 
An old fashion player, concentrating on his first trade, keeping and he is the best. His batting is also more than useful and at par or better ( in tests ) than any WK at the moment. He is hard working and not a flamboyant player. Any team would be lucky to have a player like him.

Think that's a bit optimistic, De Kock and Bairstow are clearly a decent distance ahead right now.
 
They showed a stat

Till 2015 his batting average was 21

In last 15 months that has jumped to 47+.

Thats as goos as you'd expect from a keeper. Already has 3 test 100s, Dhoni in his entire career had 6! Has bailed us out on so many occasions, was a treat to watch him fight today.
 
Clearly an upgrade over Dhoni

Indian fans must realize how overrated is Dhoni in tests.

It is laughable to even think of selecting him in an all time Asian Test XI.

Saha will end up as a better test wicket keeper batsman.
 
I man one of those critics of Saha, but I give credit to him for this innings. He was determined not to throw his wicket away and the influence of Pujara has rubbed on him.
 
This is a dead wicket with nothing for pacers and spinners. He only thing that Saha had to weather was pressure and he did it wonderfully.

I still stand by my words. Saha cannot play good bowling attacks on slightly helpful conditions.

Once India starts touring, he will look like a walking wicket. So far in this series he has been impressive.
 
Quite right you are SIF :)

Interesting that recently playing for ROI, Saha scored a double and Pujara a single. This test we have it reversed, hope their partnership is winning again.

Good to see him do so well.

He was playing (ducking) the Pat Cummins bouncers better than anyone else. He just needs to get past the first 20-30 balls after which he grows in confidence and starts performing.

I man one of those critics of Saha, but I give credit to him for this innings. He was determined not to throw his wicket away and the influence of Pujara has rubbed on him.

This is a dead wicket with nothing for pacers and spinners. He only thing that Saha had to weather was pressure and he did it wonderfully.

I still stand by my words. Saha cannot play good bowling attacks on slightly helpful conditions.

Once India starts touring, he will look like a walking wicket. So far in this series he has been impressive.

It's not about dead wicket. It's about pressure too.

Teams crumble on wickets like these all the time under pressure. When Saha arrived at the crease, we were like 130 runs behind with just 4 wickets to go. To score a 100 from there on is seriously hard especially considering ALL of Aussie bowlers were super tight and at you all the time.

As for quality knock, check his twin unbeaten 50s against NZ seam attack on a seam friendly pitch.

Or 100 against WI against Alzarri and Gabriel on a relatively seam friendly track.
 
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Think that's a bit optimistic, De Kock and Bairstow are clearly a decent distance ahead right now.

What the heck did Baisstow achieve in the last series against India anyway? Got smashed like the rest of the English batsmen on their way to a 4-0 series loss.

If he turned a game around like Pujara and Saha just did then you would have an argument, you have none at this point.
 
Saha cannot play good bowling attacks on slightly helpful conditions.

You are stuck in your make-believe world about Saha and refuse to leave it. This is the same wicket in which Kohli scored 6 and Rahane 17. The Aussie attack is one of the best in the world. It was only due to the super batting by Pujara and Saha that they were ground down.
 
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What the heck did Baisstow achieve in the last series against India anyway? Got smashed like the rest of the English batsmen on their way to a 4-0 series loss.

If he turned a game around like Pujara and Saha just did then you would have an argument, you have none at this point.

Please tell me you're kidding? Saha isn't even close to the same class as Bairstow right now. Unsurpising that in the 2 games he played with Saha he out batted (and outkept him) by a country mile, despite facing Ashwin and Jadeja instead of Moeen and Rashid.
 
Also not sure I'd be calling averaging over 40 in your first series as a keeper in Asia whilst carrying out a very respectable jobs with the gloves as 'getting smashed' from a batsmans point of view.
 
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Also not sure I'd be calling averaging over 40 in your first series as a keeper in Asia whilst carrying out a very respectable jobs with the gloves as 'getting smashed' from a batsmans point of view.

Need I remind you that the result was 4-0. Averages mean little when you are not even able to rescue your team on one occasion from the smashing. On the other hand, when Saha came in to bat yesterday India was staring at defeat and a probable series loss. When he left today India was going for the Test and series win.
 
Need I remind you that the result was 4-0. Averages mean little when you are not even able to rescue your team on one occasion from the smashing. On the other hand, when Saha came in to bat yesterday India was staring at defeat and a probable series loss. When he left today India was going for the Test and series win.

And from that alone you genuinely believe Saha is a better batsman than Bairstow...?
 
What the heck did Baisstow achieve in the last series against India anyway? Got smashed like the rest of the English batsmen on their way to a 4-0 series loss.

If he turned a game around like Pujara and Saha just did then you would have an argument, you have none at this point.

Bairstow is class man.

He clicked in SA.

He played some clutch knocks against Pakistan in Eng.

Didn't look like a dummy in India. Looked competent but sometimes you don't kick on.

I would say he is the best batsman among keepers in the world. De Kock is the most ruthless though it remains to be seen how he will fare in different conditions.
 
Despite his recent success,his career average of 29 before this match and above 30 now tells that he is a average player.
 
And from that alone you genuinely believe Saha is a better batsman than Bairstow...?

From a Cricinfo article by Brettig "Pujara and Saha went on to a partnership that has redefined the match and possibly the series."

When was the last time Baristow played an innings of such consequence that it "redefined the match and possibly the series"?
 
Bairstow is class man.

He clicked in SA.

He played some clutch knocks against Pakistan in Eng.

Didn't look like a dummy in India. Looked competent but sometimes you don't kick on.

I would say he is the best batsman among keepers in the world. De Kock is the most ruthless though it remains to be seen how he will fare in different conditions.

Bairstow has a very good average of 42 for a wk. Saha's average is considerably lower, but over the last year he has matched Bairstow. Also he comes in late which pushes down his average. In the previous innings he lost runs trying to protect Ishant from the strike. In today's innings he only got out when there was a need to push up the scoring rate towards the end of the innings.
 
From a Cricinfo article by Brettig "Pujara and Saha went on to a partnership that has redefined the match and possibly the series."

When was the last time Baristow played an innings of such consequence that it "redefined the match and possibly the series"?

This one? http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/1029825.html

Came in at 62/5, departed at 189/6 and saving England from what would have been an embarrassing defeat to Bangladesh.

Also whilst we're at in then I'll bite, when was the last time Kohli played an innings that redefined a match and the series?
 
Bairstow has a very good average of 42 for a wk. Saha's average is considerably lower, but over the last year he has matched Bairstow.

Last 12 months :

Bairstow
14 games
1231 runs
Average 55.95

50% of games at home.
50% of games in Asia.

Saha
13 games
615 runs
Average 47.30

69% of games at home.
31% of games in the West Indies.
 
This one? http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/1029825.html

Came in at 62/5, departed at 189/6 and saving England from what would have been an embarrassing defeat to Bangladesh.

<b>Also whilst we're at in then I'll bite, when was the last time Kohli played an innings that redefined a match and the series?</b>

Maybe this one... after England pressured India in the first Test, after this Test they were shattered.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2016-17/engine/match/1034811.html
 
Last 12 months :

Bairstow
14 games
1231 runs
Average 55.95

50% of games at home.
50% of games in Asia.

Saha
13 games
615 runs
Average 47.30

69% of games at home.
31% of games in the West Indies.

Again, here mere statistics are not enough. The 13 games include raging turners like the first Test against the Aussies at Pune where the entire Indian team scored 105 and 107.
 
Wriddhiman Saha better wicket-keeper than MS Dhoni: Sourav Ganguly

New Delhi: Indian wicket-keeper batsman MS Dhoni is widely considered as the best man behind the stumps not just in India but all over the world, but as far as Sourav Ganguly is concerned, Wriddhiman Saha is even better.


MS Dhoni's future at least until the 2019 World Cup was recently sorted after head coach Ravi Shastri confirmed his place for the mega event and it hardly seems possible that anyone elese apart from him would take his place behind the stumps in the near future.

Ganguly, however, opened up on Mahi's place in the showpiece event, saying it's Virat Kohli's trust in him not just as a wicket-keeper batsman but also as a leader that has secured his position in India's World Cup plans.

“I think so (Dhoni will continue till 2019 World Cup). The best part for Dhoni is Virat Kohli wants him. He’s 36 and he’s not the flamboyant MS Dhoni that we saw in Pakistan in 2004 but he’s a different player now. Kohli needs him not just as a keeper but in the leadership capacity as well; he has got the best view behind the stumps,” said Dada was quoted as saying by India Today.
Later, the Bengal Tiger drew comparisons between Dhoni and Saha, saying the Men in Blue should keep an eye on the latter, who is better at wicket-keeper than the former.


“MS Dhoni is different, not the orthodox one but you need to be different to be successful and he has that. He has learnt his craft with time but we must keep an eye on Wriddhiman Saha. He’s better than him at wicket-keeping, the best in the country right now. He bats at 6 or 7 for India so must keep an eye on him,” added Sourav.


Ganguly then analysed the inclusion of Dinesh Karthik in place of KL Rahul, saying he felt that the selection was not justified and Rahul'd exclusion came as a surprise for him.


While the Dhoni was going though a rough patch in terms of his batting, chief selector MSK Prasad had called him the best wicket-keeper in the world.
"We all believe he is still the best wicketkeeper in the world," Prasad had said. "We are only talking and focusing on his batting form. He is an invaluable asset to this team. When it comes to crunch situations, [with] his inputs, I think he has got one of the best brains. He is the best person to guide Virat [Kohli]."


Considering the way Kohli relies on Dhoni and the two lead other players of the team, it seems highly unlikely that anyone can replace Dhoni in the next 2-3 years.

http://www.timesnownews.com/sports/...et-keeper-than-ms-dhoni-sourav-ganguly/110565

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Reasonable points from Ganguly. Always ready to speak his mind. However, the time to get rid of Dhoni has elapsed I feel. WC 2019 is less than 2 years away. Just better hope that he doesn't keep declining like he has been for the past 2-3 years or so. Carrying a 38 year old Dhoni with slow keeping reflexes would be a nightmare. He's always been one of the least agile WKs in the world and coupled with his slowing reflexes would be a perfect recipe for some extra byes and missed run outs which might prove to be very costly.
 
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Dhoni with slow reflexes ! Are you sure you are actually watching Dhoni and not someone else? :kakmal
 
Dhoni with slow reflexes ! Are you sure you are actually watching Dhoni and not someone else? :kakmal

He is obviously slowing down with age. His performances in the last 2 series have been nowhere near his best, and sadly this is something you can't work on at 36.
 
Wriddhiman Saha hits fastest ever T20 Century

The 33-year-old scored an astonishing 20-ball 102 for Mohun Bagan in a JC Mukherjee Trophy match against BNR Recreation Club in Kalighat.

His knock included 14 sixes and four fours, as Mohun chased down the target of 151 in just seven overs.

Saha took 12 balls to reach his 50 and won the game by hitting six sixes in an over, finishing with a strike rate of 510.

West Indies batsman Chris Gayle holds the record for the fastest ever T20 century in a professional match, with his 30-ball knock in the IPL in 2013.

Saha, who will play for Sunrisers Hyderabad when the IPL gets under way on 7 April, has played 32 Tests, his last appearance coming against South Africa in January.

"I don't know whether this is a record or not. I tried to play different shots and had that in mind ahead of the IPL," Saha told reporters after the match.

"From ball one I could feel the ball was hitting the middle of my bat and so I went for it."

source: BBC Sports
 
Lots of Wicket Keepers are in form right now and are in wings (Saha, Pant, Ishan, DK, Sanju... Even Uttappa & Rahul have done well in IPL) I guess Dhoni is safe because of his experience, stardom and maybe wicket-keeping skills! Others have comfortably overtaken him in terms of batting & the demands of modern day!
 
So what happens to Saha when he regains full fitness? He turns 34 very soon and Pant has started his test career with a bang so it’s not that far fetched to suggest Saha won’t play for India again.

Purely as a keeper he’s better than Pant imo however as a batsman he isn’t. Although having said that prior to his injury Saha had upped the batting a level when playing for the test side.
 
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So what happens to Saha when he regains full fitness? He turns 34 very soon and Pant has started his test career with a bang so it’s not that far fetched to suggest Saha won’t play for India again.

Purely as a keeper he’s better than Pant imo however as a batsman he isn’t. Although having said that prior to his injury Saha had upped the batting a level when playing for the test side.

Though it seems unfair to Saha but he isn't coming back
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“I haven t been able to watch all the games to be honest. But I have watched Rishabh. He played Test cricket the way he plays T20. This is his style and he has been successful this way. I never think who is playing in my place. I will do my job, and selection isn t in my hands.</p>— Wriddhiman Saha (@Wriddhipops) <a href="https://twitter.com/Wriddhipops/status/1050383051379826688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 11, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If I do well, I will get a chance. Rishabh, Dinesh (Karthik) or Parthiv (Patel), whoever plays, they all will try to do their best, like I do.” Full Interview at Sportstars.</p>— Wriddhiman Saha (@Wriddhipops) <a href="https://twitter.com/Wriddhipops/status/1050383055699857409?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 11, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Though it seems unfair to Saha but he isn't coming back

There's nothing unfair about it, it's not some 9-5 job but one position in entire country and the best lad should get selected. Infact would have been unfair to Pant had he not got the opportunity.

All the hype around Saha's keeping has been because he played 60% of his games in India and 80% in Asia so he never had to face any kind of challenging conditions. His batting meanwhile has been ordinary throughout.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“I haven t been able to watch all the games to be honest. But I have watched Rishabh. He played Test cricket the way he plays T20. This is his style and he has been successful this way. I never think who is playing in my place. I will do my job, and selection isn t in my hands.</p>— Wriddhiman Saha (@Wriddhipops) <a href="https://twitter.com/Wriddhipops/status/1050383051379826688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 11, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If I do well, I will get a chance. Rishabh, Dinesh (Karthik) or Parthiv (Patel), whoever plays, they all will try to do their best, like I do.” Full Interview at Sportstars.</p>— Wriddhiman Saha (@Wriddhipops) <a href="https://twitter.com/Wriddhipops/status/1050383055699857409?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 11, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Classy attitude but his time is up. He was a good keeper but a below average batsman
 
[MENTION=147270]the_outsider[/MENTION] What do you think about Saha? I mean is it right to drop him after his injury? :inti

No. I am a firm believer in picking your best wicketkeeper for tests, especially overseas. It's a specialist role and should be given its due respect. If we start making a trend where half-baked keepers make it into the team based just on their batting, then it sends the wrong message to future generations. We will soon start seeing youngsters, ignoring their keeping skills to become better batsmen just to get a place in the XI.

Rishab Pant dropped Buttler in England and he went on to score a century. God forbid he drops a Shaun Marsh or Khawaja and costs India a match.

But from what I have heard, Saha won't be fit for the Australian tour anyway so it's all a moot point.
 
There's nothing unfair about it, it's not some 9-5 job but one position in entire country and the best lad should get selected. Infact would have been unfair to Pant had he not got the opportunity.

All the hype around Saha's keeping has been because he played 60% of his games in India and 80% in Asia so he never had to face any kind of challenging conditions. His batting meanwhile has been ordinary throughout.

Keeping in the SC is one of the hardest jobs for any wicketkeeper. I've seen the likes of Gilchrist struggle in India.
 
Pant will be stuck with now and be forced to improve his keeping . Saha was a good keeper but his international career is over.
 
Keeping in the SC is one of the hardest jobs for any wicketkeeper. I've seen the likes of Gilchrist struggle in India.

keeping or batting or bowling is always tougher in overseas conditions than home conditions. Gilchrist will always find it easier to keep in Australia than Asia because Australia is where he learnt keeping. Similarly, a Saha or a Pant will always find batting or keeping easier in India than anywhere else, because this is where they grew up and learnt their skills..
 
People seriously want saha? I would even prefer DK over this useless guy.
 
keeping or batting or bowling is always tougher in overseas conditions than home conditions. Gilchrist will always find it easier to keep in Australia than Asia because Australia is where he learnt keeping. Similarly, a Saha or a Pant will always find batting or keeping easier in India than anywhere else, because this is where they grew up and learnt their skills..

From what I have heard from a lot of players and ex-players, SC and England are the two most difficult places for a wicketkeeper.

The kind of variable bounce and sharp turn one gets on SC pitches, you'll never see that on Australian pitches. I wouldn't be surprised if Pant has an easier time behind the stumps in Australia.
 
People seriously want saha? I would even prefer DK over this useless guy.

Really? Saha has been the best all round Indian keeper, perhaps even better than Mongia (who was great vs spin and average vs pacers). He had also started to become consistent with the bat before the injury in SA.

Unfortunately now with Pant’s consistency, his career is over. For the tours to Aus and NZ, I hope we select Ishan Kishan as the reserve keeper for tests. KS Bharat is another contender, have heard a lot about his keeping but yet to see him in action.
 
He is miles ahead of Pant when it comes wicket keeping skills.

Sooner or later India will realise that they need Saha in tests.
 
Difficult to see him making a comeback. After Aus tour, we do not play any tests till July 2019 (tour of WI). Saha will be 35 by then. Pant and Ishan Kishen would have leaped ahead.
 
Saha preferred over Pant for first Test vs SA which starts tomorrow
 
Not as gifted with the bat as Pant but boy he's one heck of a wicket keeper and takes absolute blinders.

Totally justifying his place
 
So much hate for Saha.. it's like somebody wants Jogindar Sharma over Shami bcz former can bat well than the later..
 
Saha is probably amongst the top three indian wicketkeeper ever(pure wktkeeping skills):

1.Saeed Kirmani
2.Farokh Engineer
3.Wriddhi saha
 
Bad day for Pant fans. They were under the impression that Pant is a better wicketkeeper than Saha. They were glorifying even the regular catches which Pant was taking due to his poor form with the bat. :inti
 
Saha is probably amongst the top three indian wicketkeeper ever(pure wktkeeping skills):

1.Saeed Kirmani
2.Farokh Engineer
3.Wriddhi saha

Engineer was a lovely batsman but extremely poor keeper. We lost the 1969 series against Bill Lawry's team courtesy his keeping, he dropped 7-8 catches in one session itself. Based on what I have read about him that's the impression I get. Kirmani as well, very overrated.

Sadanand Vishwanath and Nayan Mongia were damn good especially against spin, Chandrakant Pandit another one. But Saha has kept to our quicks as well, over a long period.
 
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Bad day for Pant fans. They were under the impression that Pant is a better wicketkeeper than Saha. They were glorifying even the regular catches which Pant was taking due to his poor form with the bat. :inti

Pant and his fans should not feel dejected if they really love the game and appreciate merit. For Pant it is important to understand the while he has the talent he needs to complement it with hard work and focus to be consistent going forward. It will also benefit him if he starts treating his keeping seriously and try to match up the high benchmark that Saha has set. If Pant can do that, then there is great times ahead for him as an individual and the team as well. Saha is not going to be there for long given his age, it's up to Pant to use this time to sharpen his skills in domestic and grab the void when Saha leaves.
 
Saha was sensational in this test...

Exactly, how often can we say that we follow a test match because of the keeper? Most punishing role in test cricket where he toils 8 hours every day but only negatives like drops, missed stumpings, bad DRS calls, byes are highlighted. Saha is a a rare breed, love Pant and feel for him but Saha deserves some limelight after all he has been through in the last two years.
 
Yeah, Saha deserves wicket keeper slot in tests over Pant purely on his wicket keeping abilities. This seems to be a no brainer atm.
 
I've seen Kirmani play; he was exceptional but never had to keep to pacers of this calibre. Saha is in a different class. I would now rate Saha over Kiri as a pure keeper.
 
I think India should stick with Saha in Test. Pant should be the LOI keeper.

Pant shouldn't be in Test side.
 
I think India should stick with Saha in Test. Pant should be the LOI keeper.

Pant shouldn't be in Test side.

I was very excited about Pant but am now tending to believing he is a hack. He gets out the same way almost every time, a big legside swipe followed by a catch by deep square leg or deep midwicket.
 
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Saha is probably amongst the top three indian wicketkeeper ever(pure wktkeeping skills):

1.Saeed Kirmani
2.Farokh Engineer
3.Wriddhi saha

How many times/matches have you watched with Kirmani and Engineer keeping? Hope it's more than a couple of short clips on YouTube
 
How many times/matches have you watched with Kirmani and Engineer keeping? Hope it's more than a couple of short clips on YouTube
Reading articles helps.

And yes i have just seen some youtube videos coz obviously i was'nt born in their era.
 
Saha is a top keeper. No doubt. But his batting is terrible.

EVerything will be hunky dory when India piles on 500+ runs for fun on home pitches. However, in low scoring tests, Saha will be a huge burden on batting lineup. He simply cannot score enough runs to warrant a place in the team.

Sure Pant is not looking like a keeper batsman due to lack of batting. But same is with Saha. Both cannot bat. India should look towards someone like Samson.

Time of specialist keepers is gone. Just wait till India travels abroad and Saha will look like a huge burden on the batting lineup. Then they introduce some young keeper batsman and if he fails, they bring back Saha for domestic matches.

Time to think about future. If Saha is scoring 40's or 50's every other Test, He deserves a place in the Test squad. But he is far from that. He does not inspire any confidence when he is holding a bat.
 
Saha is a top keeper. No doubt. But his batting is terrible.

Agree. Saha is a below average batsman. Fans will turn on him when his contributions with the bat when needed most are minimal. Another one of Kohli's Rayudu selections that he will regret later.
 
Saha is a top keeper. No doubt. But his batting is terrible.

EVerything will be hunky dory when India piles on 500+ runs for fun on home pitches. However, in low scoring tests, Saha will be a huge burden on batting lineup. He simply cannot score enough runs to warrant a place in the team.

Sure Pant is not looking like a keeper batsman due to lack of batting. But same is with Saha. Both cannot bat. India should look towards someone like Samson.

Time of specialist keepers is gone. Just wait till India travels abroad and Saha will look like a huge burden on the batting lineup. Then they introduce some young keeper batsman and if he fails, they bring back Saha for domestic matches.

Time to think about future. If Saha is scoring 40's or 50's every other Test, He deserves a place in the Test squad. But he is far from that. He does not inspire any confidence when he is holding a bat.

If Samson is that good as a batsman, he should compete with Rahane and Vihari for middle order. You need the best keeper on Indian tracks and Samson along with Pant need to improve their keeping before they can consider themselves regular in Test 11. I expect Saha to move out by end of this season. Samson and Pant has a great opportunity to upskill them and cement their place next year.
 
Agree. Saha is a below average batsman. Fans will turn on him when his contributions with the bat when needed most are minimal. Another one of Kohli's Rayudu selections that he will regret later.

Rayudu was favoured by Dhoni because of CsK link who pulls some.of the strings when it comes to selection.
 
Saha is a top keeper. No doubt. But his batting is terrible.

EVerything will be hunky dory when India piles on 500+ runs for fun on home pitches. However, in low scoring tests, Saha will be a huge burden on batting lineup. He simply cannot score enough runs to warrant a place in the team.

Sure Pant is not looking like a keeper batsman due to lack of batting. But same is with Saha. Both cannot bat. India should look towards someone like Samson.

Time of specialist keepers is gone. Just wait till India travels abroad and Saha will look like a huge burden on the batting lineup. Then they introduce some young keeper batsman and if he fails, they bring back Saha for domestic matches.

Time to think about future. If Saha is scoring 40's or 50's every other Test, He deserves a place in the Test squad. But he is far from that. He does not inspire any confidence when he is holding a bat.

Lack of batting?
He averages 44+ in tests,this avg can change in the future but as of now its quite evident that he's played well.
How can u say something so naive,this guy won ICC emerging cricketer in 2018 and u cant win that without performing well.
Sanju Samson is very inconsistent his first class record is nowhere near and he wont get a chance in tests until he corrects it.
 
Saha is a top keeper. No doubt. But his batting is terrible.

EVerything will be hunky dory when India piles on 500+ runs for fun on home pitches. However, in low scoring tests, Saha will be a huge burden on batting lineup. He simply cannot score enough runs to warrant a place in the team.

Sure Pant is not looking like a keeper batsman due to lack of batting. But same is with Saha. Both cannot bat. India should look towards someone like Samson.

Time of specialist keepers is gone. Just wait till India travels abroad and Saha will look like a huge burden on the batting lineup. Then they introduce some young keeper batsman and if he fails, they bring back Saha for domestic matches.

Time to think about future. If Saha is scoring 40's or 50's every other Test, He deserves a place in the Test squad. But he is far from that. He does not inspire any confidence when he is holding a bat.

I think an average of 30 with 5 50's and 3 100's is not bad for someone who can't bat to save his life. Before he got injured he was improving as a batsman. Check his inning against New Zealand. He is not the next big thing or the chosen one but he is certainly not the worst either. I think he will play for 2 more years. :inti
 
Didn't he get a man of the match for just his keeping once? Top notch keeper. He struggled in the first test which shows how tough it was there and to quickly turn it around shows that his reflexes have not gone at all.
 
Lack of batting?
He averages 44+ in tests,this avg can change in the future but as of now its quite evident that he's played well.
How can u say something so naive,this guy won ICC emerging cricketer in 2018 and u cant win that without performing well.
Sanju Samson is very inconsistent his first class record is nowhere near and he wont get a chance in tests until he corrects it.

He said so because he may have seen the list of Emerging players who won that award in the past. I am sure you haven't seen it.

Here are some of the names who have won this prestigious award in the past :

Irfan Pathan
Kevin Pietersen
Ian Bell
Shaun Tait
Ajantha Mendis
Peter Siddle
Steve Finn
Devendra Bishoo
Sunil Narine
Cheteshwar Pujara
Gary Ballance
Josh Hazzlewood
Mustafizur Rahman
Hasan Ali
And your fav boy Rishabh Pant

Can you see the pattern in this list? 75% of them didn't emerge after winning this award. Most of them turned out to be average and couldn't survive in international cricket after winning it. Kindly don't use this award to justify his selection. :inti
 
He said so because he may have seen the list of Emerging players who won that award in the past. I am sure you haven't seen it.

Here are some of the names who have won this prestigious award in the past :

Irfan Pathan
Kevin Pietersen
Ian Bell
Shaun Tait
Ajantha Mendis
Peter Siddle
Steve Finn
Devendra Bishoo
Sunil Narine
Cheteshwar Pujara
Gary Ballance
Josh Hazzlewood
Mustafizur Rahman
Hasan Ali
And your fav boy Rishabh Pant

Can you see the pattern in this list? 75% of them didn't emerge after winning this award. Most of them turned out to be average and couldn't survive in international cricket after winning it. Kindly don't use this award to justify his selection. :inti

FGS he said pant cant bat in tests even though icc gave him an award for the same.

And
Lol at 75% failures. Do you even know how to calculate or are siddle, Halewood, bell, fizz not successful players for their country.
 
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