And as a Test side Australia are weaker then they have been for years. The Ashes would have been won were it not for the travesty of Lords, irrespective of rain at Old Trafford.
I expect England to whitewash both of themWest Indies and Sri Lanka at home
I’ll be there.
Then why did u bring Australia and other teams into conversation?
You raised the point about the Ashes not me (“They would have won the Ashes too“) I merely responded to it
...You raised the point about the Ashes not me (“They would have won the Ashes too“) I merely responded to it
Lets put this game into perspective :
From 33-3 on the first morning, India go on to win by 434 runs with a day to spare.
Excluding innings defeats, it's the biggest margin of victory in India's history, and the eighth highest in history.
If this is success, I’d hate to see what failure looks like.
375 chase at 5.5 rpo against India in 2022. And winning a test in India after being 190 in arrearsYou raised the point about the Ashes not me (“They would have won the Ashes too“) I merely responded to it
Lets put this game into perspective :
From 33-3 on the first morning, India go on to win by 434 runs with a day to spare.
Excluding innings defeats, it's the biggest margin of victory in India's history, and the eighth highest in history.
If this is success, I’d hate to see what failure looks like.
Competitive? India have smashed England in the last two Tests and will smash them in the next two Tests.
You are right. @Mamoon instead of celebrating England losing for a change, address the point about Root and Bazball.
No Kohli, no Pant, Ashwin leaving mid game due to emergency and still losing by 434 runs in spite of playing the revolutionary Bazball lead by a legendary captain.No Anderson
No Robinson
No Brook
Stokes can't bowl
Shoaib Bashir's Visa cancelled
Debutant Hartley
2nd Match for Rehan
Playing at Home
Still lost the game
England won a Test in 2021 as well and they didn’t need to Bazball and that Indian team was stronger than this one.
My my my my my.
A clobbering for the ages against a heavily depleted Indian team that is offering Test caps left right and center.
@Forum363 Is this the legendary captain you were bigging up? Stokes and the glorified Shahid Afridi (B Mac) deserve this humiliation.
Both should be sacked after this tour.
It aged a lot better than this post though.
No Kohli, no Pant, Ashwin leaving mid game due to emergency and still losing by 434 runs in spite of playing the revolutionary Bazball lead by a legendary captain.
No Shami, no KL Rahul (Patidar is a downgrade) as well. Margin could have been 460 runs if India hadn't burnt all reviews. Also India declared too early I think, in hindsight they should have let Jaiswal and Sarfaraz continue to bat, Jaiswal was looking good for a 300 today.No Kohli, no Pant, Ashwin leaving mid game due to emergency and still losing by 434 runs in spite of playing the revolutionary Bazball lead by a legendary captain.
I refuse to support England as long as Stokes is captain because I cannot digest the fact that a selfish person like him is in a leadership role.
My apologies. I am losing count of how many key players India is missing.
At least that’s an honest answer. But that answer is also why no one should give your arguments about Bazball any weight.
I remember you calling out Bazball much before others.
I loved Stokes as a player but I hate him as a person now. Nevertheless, my criticism of Bazball is valid irrespective of my personal hatred for Stokes.
It’s really simple and I’ve laid it out but you refuse to actually acknowledge the arguments I put forth.
India were led by Bumrah in the fifth Test because Rohit was unavailable. They clearly struggled without his batting also without his leadership.
Real bazball was played by champion Aussie team of the 2000s
The bolded is just something you have made up as I don't think anyone in the England set-up has hinted at anything like you have said.
Don’t let facts get in the way of a good old fashion delusion.
No one is saying this is the best England team of all time.
England are playing with a spin attack that has a combined experience of 5 tests, and two of them are basically teenagers.
jaiswal has been ridiculous as well for india. in the 1st innings of 2nd test, all other indian batsmen made under 40 and jaiswal made a double hundred.
You mean the Pope that was basically dropped under root and badly handled by the previous regime?
How down do you expect them to be after 3 Tests?
What are the parameters of relevance? How do you measure that?
I think without a doubt this lineup would do much worse if they played defensively and had Root as captain. No question about it.
Are you still not replying about Root? Tell us again how Stokes asked him to play aggressively, everyone is waiting.
I will not blame Stokes for Root’s lack of success if you stop giving Stokes credit for the success of Pope, Duckett, Crawley etc.
So you think the captain has an equal impact on every player in the team regardless of experience or if he changes their position etc?
So let me rephrase what you are saying.
Eng are just one loss away from going 3 consecutive series without a win. I hope you will credit the same Stokes for that as well.
But Eng beat Pakistan 3-0 in Pakistan.
Actually that was not a dig. He was explaining the thought process from an Indian POV. They were under the pump after D2 and they went about their plans on D3 as each day is a new day. The imp thing is to stay in the match.
I will summarize what you said:
Ok, then it is the first of many humiliations because Bazball is not a sustainable way of playing Test cricket.
If you will simply chose to answer like a politician and deliberately ignore the point because you realise you can’t defend it any longer then it’s just a waste of time engaging with you.
If you lack a defensive game then it may be the best approach for Eng.
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‘We should take some credit’: Pom’s bizarre ‘Bazball’ claim after India star’s blitz
‘We should take some credit’: Pom’s bizarre ‘Bazball’ claim after India star’s blitz
‘We should take some credit’: Pom’s bizarre ‘Bazball’ claim after India star’s blitz
England star Ben Duckett praised Yashasvi Jaiswal’s attacking intent that helped him blast a century but boldly claimed his nation’s new approach to cricket encouraged others to use an aggressive style.
Jaiswal retired hurt after hitting a century to extend India’s lead over England to 322 after the tourists’ batting collapse in the third Test on Saturday.
India reached 196-2 in their second innings at stumps on day three in Rajkot, with Shubman Gill (65) and nightwatchman Kuldeep Yadav (three) batting at the close of play.
India have been left with 10 players to bat and bowl after Ashwin left the match late Friday due to a family emergency. Devdutt Padikkal came in as substitute fielder.
Jaiswal, struggling with his back, retired hurt on 104 and the next man Rajat Patidar was out for a duck from 10 balls.
“He looks like a superstar in the making, unfortunately he’s in some very good form at the moment,” England’s Ben Duckett said of the rising Indian talent.
“He’s due a couple of low ones,” Duckett, who hit 153 in England’s innings, said tongue-in-cheek.
Duckett also felt without England’s ‘Bazball’ tactics under Test coach Brendon McCullum, Jaiswal — and other players across the world — might not have had the confidence to play in such a manner.
“When you see players from the opposition playing like that, it almost feels like we should take some credit that they’re playing differently than how other people play Test cricket,” Duckett said.
“We saw it a bit in the summer and it’s quite exciting to see other players and other teams are also playing that aggressive style of cricket.
Skipper Rohit Sharma departed early on 19 but Jaiswal stood strong to build the innings along with Gill before the opener changed gears.
Jaiswal smashed veteran pace bowler James Anderson for a six and two fours on successive balls and kept up the charge against opposition spinners with his sweep and reverse sweep.
He raised his third Test ton in just his seventh match with a boundary off fast bowler Mark Wood, jumping, roaring and blowing kisses to an applauding crowd.
The 22-year-old, who hit a matchwinning 209 in the previous Test, leads the series batting with 435 runs after his 155-run stand with Gill.
Rohit, who hit 131 in the first innings, missed a sweep off part-time spinner Joe Root and England successfully reviewed the decision after the on-field umpire denied the appeal.
Fast bowler Mohammed Siraj led India’s bowling charge in Ashwin’s absence with figures of 4-84 to help bowl England out for 319 after the visitors collapsed from 299-5.
“In the morning when we got to know that (Ashwin) is not there, more responsibility fell on us,” Siraj said.
“Rohit told us that we will need to bowl long spells and we got success with long spells. We stopped runs and got wickets.”
Duckett moved from his overnight 133 to go past 150 and skipper Ben Stokes made 41 in his 100th Test but their innings came to a quick halt in the second session.
“It was one of those days when I feel we have to give credit to India,” said Duckett. “We just kept on losing wickets at the wrong times.” Siraj wiped out the tail with help from Ravindra Jadeja, who along with fellow spinner Kuldeep took two wickets each.
Left-hander Stokes attempted to hit back after Duckett’s departure but fell to Jadeja’s left-arm spin.
England resumed on 207-2 in reply to India’s 445 but lost two wickets in the space of six deliveries inside the first 30 minutes.
Jasprit Bumrah struck in the fifth over of the day when Root attempted a reverse scoop and Jaiswal caught it at second slip. Jonny Bairstow then fell for a duck.
The left-handed Duckett, who smashed 23 fours and two sixes in his 151-ball knock, had a tame end when he chased a wide delivery from Kuldeep to be caught at cover.
The five-match series is level at 1-1 after England won the opener and India bounced back in the second match.
