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Player to player comparison for India's tour of Australia in 2020

Smith will smash Bumrah and Shami to oblivion next year, make no mistake. Whatever useless stat Shami and Bumrah had in last Australia tour is irrelevant, as Australia had none of Smith, Warner and current Labuschagne. To even compare the last tour's mediocrity to current Aussie batting is a joke.
 
well they both outbowled starc and cummins last year. for some reason, everybody is ignoring that

starc-13 wickets avg 34 - 4 tests
cummins-14 wickets avg 27.8- 4 tests(that too because of his 6 fer in melbourne when india chose for aus not to follow on)

Bumrah . 21 wickets avg 17
Shami 16 wickets, avg 26

You could argue that indian bowlers bowled to weaker batsmen, like finch, harris, khawaja,
and aussie bowlers faced better quality batters in kohli pujara, rahane, but still.

thing with starc is that he is inconsistent, either he bowls seeds or bowls pies , leaking runs even in seaming conditions.this year he has been in good form, but all of 2018, starc was rubbish, as was hazlewood
so it depends on starc's form.

Cummins is quality no doubt, but he . does tend to get hammered on flat pitches. Bumrah, and shami have the ability to bowl well even on flat pitches

Are these stats from the last series?

Regardless, Starc has a better test career than Bumrah (still young) and Shami (similar number of tests). Cummins has been exceptional since his comeback and 2019 has been a real re-birth for him. Starc also ended the year providing some of his career best performances.

Plus you answered your own questions, the Indian bowlers bowled against far weaker batsmen with lots of scoreboard pressure behind them....even if that has not been the case, one series does not make bowler A better than bowler B.

Like I said, you will brought back down to earth in the following tours of England and Aus.
 
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You must be trolling if you think Bumrah and Shami are better than Starc and Cummins.

what? are you serious? because no one would cummins and starc over bumrah and shami lol. look at their record over the past 4 years. Even in australia they got outboard by bumrah and shami.

If I include non SENA pitches then its a daylight of a difference between bumrah, shami and cummins plus starc.

bumrah and shami are better bowlers. period. There is no doubts about it. Even if they lose the series it won't be because of bumrah and shami. It would be due to either the batting letting them down or smith just being the GOAT player of all time.
 
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well they both outbowled starc and cummins last year. for some reason, everybody is ignoring that

starc-13 wickets avg 34 - 4 tests
cummins-14 wickets avg 27.8- 4 tests(that too because of his 6 fer in melbourne when india chose for aus not to follow on)

Bumrah . 21 wickets avg 17
Shami 16 wickets, avg 26

You could argue that indian bowlers bowled to weaker batsmen, like finch, harris, khawaja,
and aussie bowlers faced better quality batters in kohli pujara, rahane, but still.

thing with starc is that he is inconsistent, either he bowls seeds or bowls pies , leaking runs even in seaming conditions.this year he has been in good form, but all of 2018, starc was rubbish, as was hazlewood
so it depends on starc's form.

Cummins is quality no doubt, but he . does tend to get hammered on flat pitches. Bumrah, and shami have the ability to bowl well even on flat pitches

bumrah and shami are the best bowlers in the world. No it's or buts.

Indian bowlers are the fittest and the best.

it's the batting that's a little bit vulnerable in swing conditons. However australia never faced India's best opening duo either. So they shouldn't under estimate Mayank and Shaw. Mayank already smashed all 4 of their so called world class bowlers around.

Mayank is a brute. he average some insane 50 plus in the domestic circuit and was a monster in the A tours. Better than every Pakistani batsman and possibly a top 2 opener in the world.
 
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Smith will smash Bumrah and Shami to oblivion next year, make no mistake. Whatever useless stat Shami and Bumrah had in last Australia tour is irrelevant, as Australia had none of Smith, Warner and current Labuschagne. To even compare the last tour's mediocrity to current Aussie batting is a joke.

dude austrslia better hope and pray to God they win the toss. India will decimate them if they win the toss.

warner smith or their baap won't save their team if bumrah is back to his best. It will be funny when smith or warner gets knockrdout by a bouncer because it could happen. Smith has been softened up already.
 
Are these stats from the last series?

Regardless, Starc has a better test career than Bumrah (still young) and Shami (similar number of tests). Cummins has been exceptional since his comeback and 2019 has been a real re-birth for him. Starc also ended the year providing some of his career best performances.

Plus you answered your own questions, the Indian bowlers bowled against far weaker batsmen with lots of scoreboard pressure behind them....even if that has not been the case, one series does not make bowler A better than bowler B.

Like I said, you will brought back down to earth in the following tours of England and Aus.

if the same bowlers bowled to smith and warner. make no mistake cummins starc and hazelwood would average close 50 plus against him just like how they perform in the shield cricket vs those so called great bowler.
shami averages 26.8. same as starc btw.

Indian bowlers are better. period.

Smith is just above everyone else in batting.
 
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if the same bowlers bowled to smith and warner. make no mistake cummins starc and hazelwood would average close 50 plus against him just like how they perform in the shield cricket vs those so called great bowler.
shami averages 26.8. same as starc btw.

Indian bowlers are better. period.

Smith is just above everyone else in batting.

Hardik pandya is not a total hack with the ball. He is averaging 31 in Tests. Also he has this uncanny knack of picking wickets. He atleast twice bounced out Smith in the one dayers.
 
Hardik pandya is not a total hack with the ball. He is averaging 31 in Tests. Also he has this uncanny knack of picking wickets. He atleast twice bounced out Smith in the one dayers.

lol c'mon bro. hardik is a nobody compared to shami and bumrah though. That's odi anyway. I agree he is not a dud in tests either. Would be interesting if they give him the number 8 spot over jadeja. Could happen ? Especially in australia where there is bounce on offer. Not that he will do much vs smith and warner but if he can put pressure that's enough.
 
Mitchell Starc bowling to a lineup with 4 quality batsmen in tests even in Aus, I know on whom I'd bet my money.
If its bowling to no 9, 10, 11 would introduce Starc playing with on feet in bowling attack.
 
India will find Australia a different proposition next year - Paine

SYDNEY (Reuters) - Australia have developed a ruthless streak in their home series sweeps against Pakistan and New Zealand and will present much stiffer opposition when India tour next year, captain Tim Paine said on Monday.

Paine’s side wrapped up a 3-0 series triumph over the Black Caps by romping to 279-run victory at the Sydney Cricket Ground to make it five comprehensive wins out of five matches for the home summer.

“I came into this summer expecting to win all five tests,” Paine told reporters.

“I think now we’ve got a team together that is really consistent, we’ve got a number of match-winners with both bat and ball and our lesser players have improved a hell of a lot over the last 12 months.

“We’ve probably become more ruthless which was something we wanted to be ... We’ve got great quality throughout our side and it’s a very exciting team to be part of.”

Next up for Australia in test cricket is a tour of Bangladesh in June and July followed by what Paine described as a “mouthwatering” series at home to Virat Kohli’s India.

India last visited in the 2018-19 season and, with Steve Smith and David Warner suspended after the ball-tampering scandal, earned their first series triumph on Australia soil.

“We’re certainly a different side than what they played against last year,” Paine added.

“There’s (also) test championship points at stake and I think both India and Australia are eyeing off that final so every point is going to be critical.

“If we can continue our upward trend, you’re potentially talking about the top two teams in the world so it’s going to be an awesome series.”

The victory over New Zealand brought Australia (296) closer to India (360) at the top of the World Test Championship table with the two nations occupying the positions which will earn places in the final at Lord’s in 2021.

Paine said the way Australia approached the key moments in matches had changed since India last toured, resulting in the clinical displays against Pakistan and New Zealand.

“Every team wants to be ruthless,” he said.

“(But) I think there were probably periods in the test series against India we should have capitalised on, but through wanting it too much, or trying too hard, or putting too much pressure on ourselves, we let it slip,” Paine added.

“When those big moments come now, we just focus on executing our roles.”

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-c...ent-proposition-next-year-paine-idUKKBN1Z50W2
 
I'd be surprised if India win a single test. They have a slight edge in batting, but they'll be outgunned in bowling under Australian conditions and I think that will be the main difference.
 
I'd be surprised if India win a single test. They have a slight edge in batting, but they'll be outgunned in bowling under Australian conditions and I think that will be the main difference.

The teams that they have beaten are SL, Pakistan, NZ. When was the last time these teams have done well in Australia? Even with better teams, they have performed poorly there.
 
I'd be surprised if India win a single test. They have a slight edge in batting, but they'll be outgunned in bowling under Australian conditions and I think that will be the main difference.

yea indian bowlers are better than Australians. difference is smith. if bumrah is back to his best and handles smith bumrah will win comfortably.

besides toss will decide the outcome. australia better hope they win the tosses.
virat only cares about the aussie tour. nothing else matters.
 
Interesting from OP. So, what are India's chances in this Australia tour?
 
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