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PTI Government - 100 day agenda thread

In 2018 election Pakistan did not just vote for a new government, they voted for an end to corruption.
There will be different ways to measure the success of this government but ultimately if it succeeds in eliminating corruption, depoliticing various bodies such as the police and ensuring proper collection of taxes and making sure there is a strong system of checks and balances then it would have done it’s job...

If IK delivers on his main message then there is hope for the future.
But make no mistake, the road ahead will be a long and painful one...
 
Even Hassan Nisar slamming disastrous government.

Talked to someone from Faislabad in Plastic Based Manufacturing, All he had to say is bijli hi nai aati, Revenues are down, material prices for every industry are high/volatile.
 
Even Hassan Nisar slamming disastrous government.

Talked to someone from Faislabad in Plastic Based Manufacturing, All he had to say is bijli hi nai aati, Revenues are down, material prices for every industry are high/volatile.

So you believed Hasan Nisar when he called NS a crook?
 
So according to the latest report trade deficit have decreased by 35.3% year-on-year from July-November, previous year it was $2.21bn this year it is $1.43bn. So even if some measures seems harsh they are much needed. Although exports have only increased by a mere 1.39pc, so a lot needs to be done to increase it but at least Pakistan's economy finally may have a direction.
 
So according to the latest report trade deficit have decreased by 35.3% year-on-year from July-November, previous year it was $2.21bn this year it is $1.43bn. So even if some measures seems harsh they are much needed. Although exports have only increased by a mere 1.39pc, so a lot needs to be done to increase it but at least Pakistan's economy finally may have a direction.

IDK where you are getting numbers from, trade deficit is around 15-16 billion in July-Dec period. There is a 5-6% decline from previous year.
 
Seems like PTI appointed the right man for the job at PIA. At first I was skeptical at the appointment of an Air Marshal as PIA chairman, but hearing this press conference changed my opinion of him. I read a news that in 2018 PIA revenues crossed Rs. 100b and this was substantially larger than 2017, with biggest increase coming in the latter half of the year. I hope he is able to turn around PIA.



[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] [MENTION=21699]Pakpak[/MENTION]
 
Seems like PTI appointed the right man for the job at PIA. At first I was skeptical at the appointment of an Air Marshal as PIA chairman, but hearing this press conference changed my opinion of him. I read a news that in 2018 PIA revenues crossed Rs. 100b and this was substantially larger than 2017, with biggest increase coming in the latter half of the year. I hope he is able to turn around PIA.



[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] [MENTION=21699]Pakpak[/MENTION]

This is a good start but there is a long way to go. It shows that good honest people can make a real difference. What nobody seems to be answer is why it's difficult to get tickets but when you get on the plane it has lots of empty seats.
 
Seems like PTI appointed the right man for the job at PIA. At first I was skeptical at the appointment of an Air Marshal as PIA chairman, but hearing this press conference changed my opinion of him. I read a news that in 2018 PIA revenues crossed Rs. 100b and this was substantially larger than 2017, with biggest increase coming in the latter half of the year. I hope he is able to turn around PIA.



[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] [MENTION=21699]Pakpak[/MENTION]

They are introducing a lot of policies when it comes to PIA. It is no longer the free for all like before!
 
mein ak PTI ka supporter honay k natay PTI ki 100 days ki karkardgi say 100% mutmin hon or mujhy fakhar hai k mein nay PTI ko vote dea
 
https://dailytimes.com.pk/344850/pml-n-responsible-for-the-economic-mess-icst/

slamabad Chamber of Small Traders (ICST) on Wednesday said the previous government of PML-N is responsible for the economic mess and hoped that this government will salvage the sinking economy.

The former government of PML-N is guilty of rampant inflation, increasing debt, devaluation of local currency, eroding forex reserves and uncertainty that has been damaging the economy, it said.

The PTI government is trying hard to resolve the problems but it should expedite the process of decision making to soothe the business community, said Patron ICST Shahid Rasheed Butt.

Business community trusts PTI to turn around the economy which is in a crisis, revitalise growth and overcome chronic energy shortage that had crippled businesses.

He said that tax collection should be improved by taking all the stakeholders into confidence as the shortfall has jumped to Rs170 billion necessitating a mini-budget.

The government is pinning hopes on a mini-budget to be delivered in the upcoming session of parliament in which minimum burden should be transferred on the masses reeling under problems, he added.

Shahid Rasheed Butt said that rich should be targeted in the second mini-budget of the government and duties should be revised on non-essential imports.

The government should avoid indirect taxation to raise the revenue like the previous PML-N government which contributed to the poverty, he advised.

The business leader said that reduction in expenditures should no longer remain symbolic, poor should be shielded and the cost of doing business in the country should be reduced to attract local and foreign investment.
 
The Express Tribune

THE EXPRESS TRIBUNE >
OPINION
Is Imran Khan pulling off a foreign policy coup
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By M Bilal LakhaniPublished: January 27, 2019


The writer is recipient of the James A Wechsler Award for International Reporting and a graduate of Columbia University’s Graduate School of Journalism. He tweets @Mbilallakhani
Is this real life or is this fantasy? Billions in aid pouring from the Saudis and Emiratis, with the Qataris and Chinese playing on as a follow-up act. Pakistan driving the peace process in Afghanistan, forcing a president like Trump to write a letter asking for our sincere help.

Throwing Modi’s ‘isolate Pakistan’ strategy into the dustbin of history, with a surgical strike to open hearts across the border, by allowing Sikh pilgrims to visit their holiest site in Pakistan.

The PTI may be struggling to get their act and messaging together on the economy and police reform but they’re hitting boundary after boundary in the foreign policy space.
If Imran Khan will go down in history as one of the greatest leaders to have ruled Pakistan, it won’t be because of his political acumen, economic policy or social justice reform. It’s his decisions in the foreign policy space that will be remembered and determine the future for generations to come in Pakistan and around the world.

In the next five years, America will withdraw from Afghanistan, triggering a new geo-political and security calculus in the region.

Meanwhile, a rising superpower, China, and a militarily strong but economically weakening superpower, America, will fight for global dominance with Pakistan being a primary playground for their power games. How Imran Khan leads Pakistan through these generational shifts in global power will determine his legacy.

First things first though. They say civilians don’t make foreign policy in Pakistan. In 2018, political leadership changed in Pakistan but military leadership has stayed constant.

And yet, there’s been a dramatic spring in Pakistan’s foreign policy steps after the elections. How do we explain the inexplicable? Perhaps pivoting from a civilian government that enjoyed low trust from the security establishment to one that enjoys high trust has allowed all the power brokers to focus on what’s best for the country versus point scoring for a domestic audience.

A second factor is that Pakistan’s long and bloody bet on Afghanistan is finally beginning to pay off.

We had calculated that America would lose interest in Afghanistan, with the persistent loss in blood and treasure. Despite my personal critique of this stance, it turns out that Pakistan’s security calculus was correct on Afghanistan.

After 18 bloody years of conflict, an inflection point is fast arriving and Pakistan holds all the right cards. Trump is ready to leave Afghanistan and Pakistan holds all the leverage, with India’s all eggs in one Afghan government basket scrambling to create a plan B.

Meanwhile, the aid from the Saudis and Emiratis are allowing Asad Umar, the Finance Minister, to negotiate a hard bargain with the IMF. This is something we have never done in our 70-year history. It’s easy to take money from the IMF in return for giving up sovereignty in our economic policy decision-making.

The path that the PTI is taking is far more daunting but rewarding in the long term. The latest mini-budget, presenting relief and industrialisation incentives, wouldn’t be possible if we had entered an agreement with the IMF. We have a real chance at breaking our cycle of begging and borrowing.

The real coup that Imran Khan and only Imran Khan can deliver is peace with India. A civilian government that enjoys a high level of support from the security establishment is the only power that can negotiate an end to our cold war with India.

When a new government takes over in India, it will be a once in a generation moment to begin paradigm changing talks. It wouldn’t hurt for cricketing ties to resume as a precursor to broader ties between the countries. Pakistan could tour India to break the ice.

In short, the PTI is off to a thumping start in the foreign policy space. They’re projecting an image of a country which is friendly with its neighbours and wants to pursue a constructive role to establish peace in the region.

A focus on economic diplomacy is paying dividends which can be leveraged to push through a real reform of the economy. Cheers to Imran Khan for being an architect of the rise and rise of Pakistan in the region.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1897554/6-imran-khan-pulling-off-foreign-policy-coup/
 
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Another one from the Noora mouthpiece- The Tribune

There are a hundred ways to criticise PM Imran Khan; his performance on foreign policy issue is not one of them. Barely six months back when he took over the office, the foreign policy of the country was spiralling out of control from Kashmir issue all the way to the fall out with the US on Afghan war. It appeared that it would take years to repair the damage done to the country.

Fast-forward to six months and the situation has entirely changed in what is no less than a miracle. The PM may not have proven himself yet on the economic turf or taken the bull of governance reforms by its horn, he sure has delivered on the foreign policy turf in more impactful ways than any other prime minister in our recent history. The true extent of his impact is yet unknown to many of the analysts and even PTI supporters that have reduced the foreign policy victory to his narrow ability to raise loans from friendly countries or save Pakistan from isolation.

For those of us that study and work in the foreign policy space, it is less about loans and isolation and more about the change that is being felt both, at the discursive level and more so at the policy implementation level. This is especially significant given that security establishment is believed to jealously guard its territory allowing little room to the civilians to interfere. With PM Imran Khan taking head on some of the most critical foreign and security issues including India and the US, there is a genuine opening for a change. In many ways he has demonstrated what Zulfikar Ali Bhutto was able to establish in the 1970s, that a serious prime minister with the right intellect and exposure has the ability to shape the foreign policy despite resistance.

For instance, what was supposed to be the toughest pitch to play, the PM has breezed through it without breaking a sweat. His approach to India is a delicate balance between a classical and neorealist position allowing him to pursue peace from the position of moral strength while keeping the idealism of peace intact. His approach to semi bypass the Indian establishment to reach out to the Indian people and bring the Sikh community closer to Pakistan through the Kartarpur Corridor is a monumental feat. For the first time in decades, India finds itself in an unknown territory with Pakistan where civil-military forces are on the same page pressing India for peace.

Modi’s reluctance due to his electoral needs is an uneasy bargain that is likely to cost him the elections. Given that foreign policy is essentially all about ‘timing’, PM Khan’s blunt response to Modi and pressing through the Kartarpur Corridor at the time of Indian elections is a classic case of how Pakistan has been able to checkmate the Modi government. The Kartarpur Corridor therefore is a significant achievement for the future of this region that only with time we will come to truly appreciate.

But nothing is more striking than Senator Lindsey Graham’s over-the-top statements on PM Imran Khan. Here is a senator that has long been an active voice against Pakistan in Washington, DC going against the diplomatic protocol to get down to personal level and generously praise Imran Khan. This reflects a serious change in Washington, DC despite all the efforts to the contrary by a specific segment that has been pushing the US to wage war on Pakistan.

Senator Graham’s statement on the PM is significant for two key reasons. First, it vindicates Imran Khan from the ‘Taliban Khan’ label with the US formally accepting that his position was right all along. This is a big moral and political victory for Imran Khan personally. Second, it is a global endorsement of not just the PM but of Pakistan at the end of the war for its overall positive role. History is most likely to be kind to Pakistan when it comes to the War on Terror.

But what is driving this change? These changes are not out of nowhere and are rooted in both the leadership and structural changes in the country. First, the change in leadership from a traditional political PM to a non-traditional PM that has made his career outside of politics is critical. Like him or hate him, Imran Khan’s celebrity status, integrity, competitive approach and blunt talk changes the way how foreign powers see and engage with a country like Pakistan. The very fact that Pakistan is not led by a PM caught in corruption scandals and known to have only enriched himself while serving in politics for 40 years changes the very perception of the country abroad.

Second, the civil-military being on the same page and not cutting each other out allows for a smooth shift in policies. PM Imran Khan rightly recognises the security establishment as a key voice in the foreign and security policy. Instead of cutting it down to size and engaging in petty games, PM Khan has risen himself in stature to be able to dictate the foreign policy terms. The speed with which India, Afghanistan and the US account is being managed is reflective of this change.

Lastly, Imran Khan is able to utilise the capability of the military bureaucracy and Foreign Office – both highly functioning departments. Their core competence allows a civilian PM to get the necessary plans into action, something that the PM is struggling in other sectors. A seasoned foreign minister and a military-Foreign Office bureaucracy that is well organised can demonstrate how effectively policies can be implemented and results achieved.

While the foreign and security policy will remain in a constant flux with changing global challenges, what is comforting is that there is finally a prime minister in Pakistan that is a master of this game with a recipe to win.

Published in The Express Tribune, January 29th, 2019.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1898924/6/
 
[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION], still waiting on the unemployment claim by the media cell guy from PMLN on PP.
 
I dont need to present anything.

Anyone can come and visit factories over here.
 
I dont need to present anything.

Anyone can come and visit factories over here.

You gave a number, so yes present it with evidence.

That's how the world works, you make a claim, give proof. Otherwise you come across as a liar.
 
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I dont need to present anything.

Anyone can come and visit factories over here.

Anecdotes don't help. The Nooras told us that the budget deficit was 4% but the actual figure was 7%. See the difference between anecdotes and reality.
 
Anecdotes don't help. The Nooras told us that the budget deficit was 4% but the actual figure was 7%. See the difference between anecdotes and reality.

So we might as well say under PMLN unemployment level was 70%. Because according to Noora logic we don't need to provide proof for any outlandish claims. :))
 
So we might as well say under PMLN unemployment level was 70%. Because according to Noora logic we don't need to provide proof for any outlandish claims. :))

Guys Bill Gates made me heir to all his wealth once he passes, just have to wait for Uncle Billy to go. Don't ask me for any evidence, meine kehdiya tou kehdiya. :afridi
 
Government to provide health card to 15 million families

ISLAMABAD: The health ministry and State life signed a landmark contract for provision of Sehat Insaf card to 15 million families.

The contract was signed for Implementation of Sehat Sahulat Programme (SSP) in all districts of Pakistan in line with the vision of Prime Minister’s Universal Health Coverage.

The contract was signed by Captain (R) Zahid Saeed, Federal Secretary National Health Services, Regulation and Coordination (NHSRC) and chairman State Life Insurance Corporation of Pakistan.
Ministry of National Health Service, Regulations and Coordination, in collaboration with participating provinces and regions, has completed its procurement to expand its health initiative of “Sehat Sahulat Programme” in Pakistan.

Through the initiative poor families would be provided free of cost health insurance to secure indoor health care services worth Rs7,20,000 from the empanelled hospitals.

Fifteen million families in the province of Punjab, Balochistan, Sindh, AJK, GB and old districts of FATA would be provided with the ‘Sehat Insaf Card’ through a transparent and computerized mechanism.

The services available on the card include open heart surgeries, insertion of stents, management of cancer, neurosurgical procedures, burn management, accident management, dialysis, intensive care management, deliveries, C section and other medical/surgical procedures.

The programme would also provide transportation cost of Rs1000 to its beneficiaries on their discharge from hospital.

Speaking on the occasion, Federal Minister for National Health Services Aamir Mehmood Kiani said that the scheme would bring drastically improve the medical procedures and provide access to quality treatment to the poor and underprivileged in the country.

It is estimated that as many as 15 million families living in Pakistan below the poverty line would benefit from the scheme.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1900359/1-govt-provide-health-card-15-million-families/


[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] [MENTION=21699]Pakpak[/MENTION]
This is the best decision to date, 15 million families getting free medical facilities upto Rs. 720,000. Average size of family in Pak is 6 people, that means 90 million poorest Pakistanis will soon have UK, Canada style national health coverage. I have heard that the trail in KPK was very successful but the only issue was the number of hospitals under the scheme were few in number so people had long wait times. I hope they iron out the issues experience in KPK and make the system better each year. Maybe [MENTION=140234]DRsohail[/MENTION] can shed more light on it. Goes to show even in failing economy you can serve the people if you have the right intentions.
 
This is the horrific debt situation facing a poor country. This is what the "competent" crooks did.

I'm impressed with this guy, he is young, intelligent and well-spoken. Could be one of the possible candidates to be PTI senior leaders once IK leaves.
 
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1900359/1-govt-provide-health-card-15-million-families/


[MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] [MENTION=21699]Pakpak[/MENTION]
This is the best decision to date, 15 million families getting free medical facilities upto Rs. 720,000. Average size of family in Pak is 6 people, that means 90 million poorest Pakistanis will soon have UK, Canada style national health coverage. I have heard that the trail in KPK was very successful but the only issue was the number of hospitals under the scheme were few in number so people had long wait times. I hope they iron out the issues experience in KPK and make the system better each year. Maybe [MENTION=140234]DRsohail[/MENTION] can shed more light on it. Goes to show even in failing economy you can serve the people if you have the right intentions.

A great move and IA people will see the point of paying taxes. It will have problems because of issues with capacity but with time it will improve
 
I'm impressed with this guy, he is young, intelligent and well-spoken. Could be one of the possible candidates to be PTI senior leaders once IK leaves.

I agree, i think the PTI needs to encourage this sort of talent, along with the likes of Zartaj Gul, Faisal Vawda, etc
 
[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] it was one of the best and successful initiative of KPK government. Let see how it goes now. Absolutely loving this.
 
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PTI gains one more NA seat after winning in NA 91 by 9000 votes. It had earlier lost the seat by 200 votes.
 
PTI gains one more NA seat after winning in NA 91 by 9000 votes. It had earlier lost the seat by 200 votes.

I read somewhere that PTI is also entitled to another woman reserved seat?

When was this, I didn't see this on the news or read it on Dawn.

There was re election only on 20 polling stations. N was originally declared winner in the elections by 30 votes.
 
I read somewhere that PTI is also entitled to another woman reserved seat?



There was re election only on 20 polling stations. N was originally declared winner in the elections by 30 votes.

Explain the 20 polling stations thing, I have never seen this done before. I take it that had they lost the Nooras would have been on here straight away.
 
https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...xtremists-imran-khan-tlp-canada-a8761086.html

How Asia Bibi’s case created major change in the Pakistan government’s approach to extremism
In any other country her ordeal would be cause for outrage, but in Pakistan merely resisting radical pressure was considered a feat on its own


It felt like déjà vu. After the supreme court in Pakistan rejected a challenge to the acquittal of Asia Bibi on blasphemy charges, conflicting reports of her release and departure from the country started to hit the airwaves.

The nation watched with bated breath, fearful of a repeat of the events from last year when violent protesters held Pakistan hostage in the aftermath of the landmark supreme court verdict that overturned the death sentence.

The riots had been led by the Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP), a political party made up of religious extremists dedicated to punishing blasphemy, who called for the justices to be killed and for army officers to commit mutiny. These weren’t peaceful protesters marching for their rights, these were fanatics destroying property and making death threats.

After Imran Khan, the Pakistan prime minister, went on the air to strongly rebuke the armed protesters and warn them against clashing with the state, it seemed to signal that a line had finally been drawn in the sand in a country where religious hardliners are normally given a free pass to do as they please, often at the expense of other citizens.

However, many were disappointed to learn that despite the tough rhetoric, the government had been in negotiations with the group. An agreement was reached, with one of the conditions being that the government should take legal measures to put Bibi’s name on the exit control list. The review petition filed against the supreme court’s judgement was another. It read like a surrender on the part of the government.

At a time when Pakistan’s economy was on the brink and the government struggled to secure financing, the cost of the armed protests, estimated by one government official to be $1.2bn (£900m), was indefensible. Yet no one was held to account back then.

Emboldened by the lack of any meaningful action being taken against them, the TLP and other hardline religious outfits began making announcements of taking to the streets once more if things did not go their way.
This led to legitimate questions about the effectiveness of the government’s policy. As the old adage goes, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

Even back then, there were members of the government who knew that nothing good comes from appeasing extremists. Shireen Mazari, Pakistan’s minister for human rights, tweeted, “It is unfortunate we don’t study history – appeasement historically never works as Chamberlain’s Munich appeasement towards Nazis showed.”

As Mazari noted in subsequent tweets, appeasing violent non state actors to “avoid bloodshed” not only undermines the concept of peaceful protests as a democratic right, it sets a dangerous precedent and leaves state institutions vulnerable – with the government appearing unable to enforce the rule of law.

There were signs that the government was finally beginning to heed their own minister’s advice. Likely spurred on by the 2018 attack on the Chinese consulate in Karachi, to avoid any further loss of confidence from international investors, the government launched a crackdown against the TLP after the organisation had called for another mass rally on 25 November.

On this occasion, Khadim Rizvi, the radical preacher at the helm of the TLP, was also taken into “protective custody”.

Almost immediately, other hardline religious organisations began to distance themselves from the TLP and the planned rally. The day came and went without further incident.

This demonstrated that the state is perfectly capable of taking action when motivated, and illustrates the drastic impact even the smallest step it takes towards asserting its writ can have.

In a similar fashion, the government launched a division-wide crackdown in several cities last week, arresting over 55 workers of different religious parties after calls to hold a protest demonstration against the dismissal of the review petition by the supreme court.

No major disruptions were reported in the aftermath – something that would have been unthinkable even just a few months ago.

Kanwal Shauzab, the parliamentary secretary for planning, attributed the absence of protests to improved management and social media monitoring by the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI)-led government.

The prime minister’s supporters would have you believe that this was the plan all along. Khan was playing chess, while his opponents were playing checkers. They credit him for defusing a volatile situation with the protesters last year without any bloodshed.

After all, those responsible for the chaos are in jail, while Bibi is now free. His critics have a less favourable view, likening him to a stubborn, bumbling fool who had to be forcefully dragged kicking and screaming to an obvious conclusion.

To deny the magnitude of this achievement would be extremely disingenuous. Both the supreme court and the government need to be lauded for staying the course in the face of immense opposition. I don’t see any other political party in Pakistan with enough leverage or goodwill with all the requisite stakeholders to have successfully pulled this off.

However, the bravery and perseverance of Bibi, her family, and her legal team should not be overshadowed. The grave injustice done to her is one that could never be made right.

In any other country, an innocent woman languishing in jail for almost a decade over a “crime” she never committed would have been cause for outrage.

In Pakistan, however, just the fact that she was released is seen as a silver lining. Forget rightful compensation, not succumbing to extremist pressure and merely letting her leave the country would be considered quite the feat.
My heart prays that the reports of her safely reuniting with her family in Canada are true. She deserves nothing less than a happy ending.

In compelling the state to re-evaluate its long-held toxic policy of appeasement of religious extremists, she leaves behind a nation that might not be appreciative today, but owes her a significant debt of gratitude nonetheless.
 
Explain the 20 polling stations thing, I have never seen this done before. I take it that had they lost the Nooras would have been on here straight away.

It has happened before. PTI candidate contested in his complaint to Election Commission that rigging took place in these 20 polling stations , ECP accepted the plea and ordered the re-count only in these polling stations because the PTI candidate never disputed other polling station results.
 
It has happened before. PTI candidate contested in his complaint to Election Commission that rigging took place in these 20 polling stations , ECP accepted the plea and ordered the re-count only in these polling stations because the PTI candidate never disputed other polling station results.

Thanks for that. So the rigging allegations were proved right.
 
PM Imran Khan: Man who sacrifices his ego for his nation


Javed Hassan |

Always quick on the draw in writing-off Khan, the naysayers had already declared his recent visit to the UAE a failure. Once again, the doubters and detractors have been busy spreading despondency and a sense of impending doom in the stock and currency markets. But yet again, Khan has proven the mephitic band of virulent critics singularly wrong. It was reported on Friday by WAM, the official news agency of the Emirates, that the United Arab Emirates intends to deposit US$3 billion in the State Bank of Pakistan “to support the financial and monetary policy of the country”.

This commitment of monetary infusion into the country’s treasury has much greater significance than simply tiding over the balance of payments crises that the PTI government inherited as a result of the previous regime’s malign incompetence.

Khan’s economic team has taken difficult decisions to demonstrate its determination to do what is necessary to put the economy on an even keel. Many of these are in line with the IMF’s requirements.

While the official Emirate communiqué states that the country’s support for Pakistan’s is based on the historical ties between the two people, there’s more to it than meets the eye. It is the first time that the UAE has provided such substantial direct financial support to Pakistan. Despite their boasts of longstanding relationships with the ruling families of the gulf, the Sharifs failed to garner similar unequivocal backing during their tenure.

A lot may have to do with the fact that Pakistan is now seen as having leadership that puts national interest ahead of self-serving iqamas and a multitude of money laundering scams. Pakistan finally has a leader who is manifestly transparent and will not compromise on the well-being of his people for personal venal gain. The dynamics of confidence in the leadership cannot be underestimated, especially in the context of a middle-eastern culture where individual stature counts for much both in business and international relationships.

Unlike his predecessors, Khan is not seen as yet another pitiful supplicant from a poor country, but rather as a heroic figure who deserves help in his time of need to serve the greater good of his country and the region. Despite its current short-term financial crunch, Pakistan may once again be enjoying the kind of prestige and leverage in the Arab world that it once did in Zulfikar Ali Bhutto’s era.

Abu Dhabi’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed Bin Sultan Al-Nayan and Saudi Arabia’s de facto ruler Mohammed bin Salman plan to visit Pakistan in January and February respectively. How the two nations can help bolster the Pakistan economy will undoubtedly be high on the agenda, but just as important is likely to be the various considerations arising from regional realignments currently taking place.

Pakistan finally has a leader who is manifestly transparent and will not compromise on the well-being of his people for personal venal gain.

An economically stable Pakistan with a trusted leadership not only serves as an attractive investment destination for Gulf cooperation council (GCC) investors, but with the withdrawal of the US from Syria, and their departure from Afghanistan likely to follow, it is seen as playing a pivotal role in solving that imbroglio. Pakistan’s help is vital for the interests of the various players in Afghanistan, carefully calibrated towards ensuring peace and prosperity for the Afghani people and the region as a whole.

Khan’s economic team has taken difficult decisions to demonstrate its determination to do what is necessary to put the economy on an even keel. Many of these are in line with the IMF’s requirements. The inevitable weakening of the rupee, the increase in interest rate by the State Bank of Pakistan and the rise in gas and electricity tariffs, were all painful measures for any new government to take, and in the short-term detrimental to Pakistan’s growth, but they were essential to stabilizing Pakistan’s balance of payments.

Further infusion of funds brought about by Khan’s trips to friendly countries, and potentially an IMF stabilization package will greatly alleviate the country’s current economic woes. Perennial detractors of Khan and armchair critics of his trips to “beg” for money should eat humble pie if not their own words. They might want to consider the fact that here’s a proud man willing bend to alleviate the dire straits the country finds itself in, entirely created by those who would stoop to any level to benefit their own miserable skins.

Javed Hassan has worked as senior investment banker in London, Hong Kong and Karachi. He is a graduate of Imperial College London and an MBA from London Business School. He tweets as [MENTION=70]Javed[/MENTION]hassan. The views expressed in this article are the author’s own and do not necessarily reflect the editorial policy of Global Village Space.

https://www.globalvillagespace.com/pm-imran-khan-man-who-sacrifices-his-ego-for-his-nation/
 
PM Imran Khan: Man who sacrifices his ego for his nation

And then there is ego of PMLN/PPP supporters who still believe Nawaz and Zardari have joined hands for democracy and it has nothing to do with corruption. They still believe Imran Khan is a yahoodi agent who is destroying Pakistan on their instructions and apparently Pakistanis fauj is also supporting him in destruction which leaves us with only real options like Nawaz, Zardari, Maulana Fazl ur Rehman etc :)
 
PM Imran Khan: Man who sacrifices his ego for his nation

And then there is ego of PMLN/PPP supporters who still believe Nawaz and Zardari have joined hands for democracy and it has nothing to do with corruption. They still believe Imran Khan is a yahoodi agent who is destroying Pakistan on their instructions and apparently Pakistanis fauj is also supporting him in destruction which leaves us with only real options like Nawaz, Zardari, Maulana Fazl ur Rehman etc :)

They can try their filthy plans as much as they want , Imran khan is going no where for at least next 10 years In Sha Allah...
 
PM Imran Khan: Man who sacrifices his ego for his nation

And then there is ego of PMLN/PPP supporters who still believe Nawaz and Zardari have joined hands for democracy and it has nothing to do with corruption. They still believe Imran Khan is a yahoodi agent who is destroying Pakistan on their instructions and apparently Pakistanis fauj is also supporting him in destruction which leaves us with only real options like Nawaz, Zardari, Maulana Fazl ur Rehman etc :)

I think we have to accept that these losers have a loser mentality, and nothing is ever going to change for them. The fact that they hated each other and sent each other behind bars for Corruption, and still believe the other is Corrupt, says volumes about the reasons for this unholy alliance.
 
PM Imran Khan: Man who sacrifices his ego for his nation

And then there is ego of PMLN/PPP supporters who still believe Nawaz and Zardari have joined hands for democracy and it has nothing to do with corruption. They still believe Imran Khan is a yahoodi agent who is destroying Pakistan on their instructions and apparently Pakistanis fauj is also supporting him in destruction which leaves us with only real options like Nawaz, Zardari, Maulana Fazl ur Rehman etc :)

And when you ask for evidence they trot out Ahsan Iqbal and his world bank figures which are then debunked in minutes. Frankly the PMLN are a joke now. They seem to be out of touch and on the backfoot. The PTI have changed the way the game is played. The almost daily press conferences and progress reports we are getting are keeping everyone engaged. Just look at a paper like dawn. During the NS era news items were essentially speculations, or NS press junket reprints. Or some stupid statement from a talal chaudhry type. etc. It was hala gulla type news because that was the pind level govt we had.

Now news item's are more focused because the media has things to analyse and talk about. And that is because we have a normal govt in charge, not some circus run by a family from the pind.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] And BRT continues with destruction and reconstruction going on.What a sorry states of affairs.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] And BRT continues with destruction and reconstruction going on.What a sorry states of affairs.

Total shambles, and then they had the nerve to question the cost of the "jangla bus" projects in Lahore and Islamabad. PTI's arrogance has backfired big time as far as the BRT is concerned. They have no idea what they are doing and continue to waste millions of rupees.

Where is the accountability now? Their lack of experience has been brutally exposed. It is now clear that the PTI government cannot be trusted with any infrastructural development. It is simply not their domain.
 
Total shambles, and then they had the nerve to question the cost of the "jangla bus" projects in Lahore and Islamabad. PTI's arrogance has backfired big time as far as the BRT is concerned. They have no idea what they are doing and continue to waste millions of rupees.

Where is the accountability now? Their lack of experience has been brutally exposed. It is now clear that the PTI government cannot be trusted with any infrastructural development. It is simply not their domain.
Agreed.KPk helath department is in shambles after a little bit develment made by Shahram, we have a totally dud health minister and CM. If they continue like this I will think twice before voting them in local elections.
 
Guys guys guys. Have some patience. You expect a 70 year mess to be cleaned in 6 months?

Changes dont happen overnight. PTI will be eventually back on track.

Now I know about your love for Nawaz Shareef and Zardari, but please step aside and let project rebuild Pakistan continue in full force!
 
Guys guys guys. Have some patience. You expect a 70 year mess to be cleaned in 6 months?

Changes dont happen overnight. PTI will be eventually back on track.

Now I know about your love for Nawaz Shareef and Zardari, but please step aside and let project rebuild Pakistan continue in full force!

We are discussing a specific issue here that has nothing to do with Nawaz or Zardari. The metro bus disaster is PTI’s responsibility and they deserve to be criticized for it.

They have was wasted millions of rupees, the project has been delayed by over 2 years and they have made life very difficult for the citizens of Peshawar.
 
PTI is actually worse than Zardari and Nawaz

It is a disaster for Nawaz and Zardari indeed, i have no doubt that both crooks will be history if Imran Khan completes his 5 year term. Not only that but natural born legendary leaders like Bilawal, Maryam, Hamza, Bakhtawar will become irrelevant as well.
 
It is a disaster for Nawaz and Zardari indeed, i have no doubt that both crooks will be history if Imran Khan completes his 5 year term. Not only that but natural born legendary leaders like Bilawal, Maryam, Hamza, Bakhtawar will become irrelevant as well.

All the losers are very active today. Many were hoping that PK gets a bloody nose from Ind and they could start to agitate but Allah is the best of planners.
 
We are discussing a specific issue here that has nothing to do with Nawaz or Zardari. The metro bus disaster is PTI’s responsibility and they deserve to be criticized for it.

They have was wasted millions of rupees, the project has been delayed by over 2 years and they have made life very difficult for the citizens of Peshawar.
Millions? That is peanuts when you compare it to the trillions of dollars our economy has lost thanks to our beloved goons. PTI is not perfect but it will be back on track by learning from mistakes.
 
Millions? That is peanuts when you compare it to the trillions of dollars our economy has lost thanks to our beloved goons. PTI is not perfect but it will be back on track by learning from mistakes.

PTI supporters need to develop the capability of discussing the failures of their party without dragging PMLN/PPP into the discussion.
 
PTI supporters need to develop the capability of discussing the failures of their party without dragging PMLN/PPP into the discussion.

Why shouldn't we point out your useless, Corrupt losers. Everyone needs to know the context at how useless Corrupt people bankrupted​ PK.
 
PTI is actually worse than Zardari and Nawaz

Thankfully we don't have your hero as the PM in these circumstances. Otherwise like Kargil he would have ran to the US, bashed our own men and put pressure on our own army.

Disgraceful 'leader', who is lucky a jail sentence is the only punishment he's getting.
 
PTI supporters need to develop the capability of discussing the failures of their party without dragging PMLN/PPP into the discussion.
Nice one. So the previous parties made a mess beyond a mess. Dirt everywhere. Now that PTI is trying to clean it, and in process some of the stains have not been cleaned properly, and you are here advocating and preaching what should and shouldnt be done. Amazing!
 
Thankfully we don't have your hero as the PM in these circumstances. Otherwise like Kargil he would have ran to the US, bashed our own men and put pressure on our own army.

Disgraceful 'leader', who is lucky a jail sentence is the only punishment he's getting.
Some of the supporters of former parties should have been sent to India along with Abhinandan.
 
Nice one. So the previous parties made a mess beyond a mess. Dirt everywhere. Now that PTI is trying to clean it, and in process some of the stains have not been cleaned properly, and you are here advocating and preaching what should and shouldnt be done. Amazing!

Once again, we are talking about a specific issue here that has nothing to do with the mess the previous parties made.

This thread was bumped by a PTI supporter to discuss the shambolic BRT project in Peshawar that is entirely PTI’s responsibility, and they have goofed it up big time.

No matter how hard PTI supporters try, they cannot delegate the blame for this disastrous project to other parties.

And this is what I am talking about - PTI supporters need to learn to discuss the performance of their party without dragging PMLN/PPP to the discussion unless it is necessary, which it is not here.

The fact that PTI supporters are attempting to deflect the BRT issue by using examples of what other parties did clearly shows that they are not prepared to hold themselves accountable, and that is exactly what is wrong with this party and its supporters.
 
Read my last post.

Govt mess up and the PTI won't be the first, you make every PTI mistake to be some sort of seminal moment in human history, it isn't. You talk about competency, well where was the competency when Nandipur was being opened for public consumption after 300bn + wasted . And compared to the billions lost through Corruption, this is comparatively small.
 
PTI supporters need to develop the capability of discussing the failures of their party without dragging PMLN/PPP into the discussion.
Yes good point Mamoon but the same apply to ppp and Pmln for better governance.
 
Once again, we are talking about a specific issue here that has nothing to do with the mess the previous parties made.

This thread was bumped by a PTI supporter to discuss the shambolic BRT project in Peshawar that is entirely PTI’s responsibility, and they have goofed it up big time.

No matter how hard PTI supporters try, they cannot delegate the blame for this disastrous project to other parties.

And this is what I am talking about - PTI supporters need to learn to discuss the performance of their party without dragging PMLN/PPP to the discussion unless it is necessary, which it is not here.

The fact that PTI supporters are attempting to deflect the BRT issue by using examples of what other parties did clearly shows that they are not prepared to hold themselves accountable, and that is exactly what is wrong with this party and its supporters.
I dont have any issue when a neutral person criticises PTI.

But when a PMLN or PPP supporter criticises PTI, then I have a problem, sorry.
 
I dont have any issue when a neutral person criticises PTI.

But when a PMLN or PPP supporter criticises PTI, then I have a problem, sorry.

I have voted twice for PTI and zero times for PMLN/PPP.

In no world to a qualify as a PMLN/PPP supporter, and technically speaking, I am twice the PTI supporter compared to some vocal, so-called PTI supporters on this forum who were not even allowed to vote.
 
I have voted twice for PTI and zero times for PMLN/PPP.

In no world to a qualify as a PMLN/PPP supporter, and technically speaking, I am twice the PTI supporter compared to some vocal, so-called PTI supporters on this forum who were not even allowed to vote.

You are also the biggest hypocrite on the forum. So if you are to be believed, which I don't, you voted for a party which you claim is led by a leader of a cult. You hypocrisy has no limits.
 
You are also the biggest hypocrite on the forum. So if you are to be believed, which I don't, you voted for a party which you claim is led by a leader of a cult. You hypocrisy has no limits.

I have my reasons (which prompted me to vote for them) and I don't have the need to go over them again. However, let's not forget that you were not even allowed to vote.
 
I have my reasons (which prompted me to vote for them) and I don't have the need to go over them again. However, let's not forget that you were not even allowed to vote.

But you are hypocrite- whatever you reasons( looking back at your posting history, i highly doubt that your reasons are even true, remember the saplings). Maybe i too should had a corrupt family that gave me a free pass, and then like you i could have stayed in the country. But then again i may have ended up defending crooks of the Nooras and the PPP like you do.
 
PTI folks,including me I guess, are going to have to learn to take criticism of the BRT project on the chin. Admit that so far it has been a mess, the actual project may be a good one but their political stunts have made it an embarrassment.

The grievances of the people of Peshawar are well warranted due to the number of false claims and promises regarding this project.


In the past I have defended the finances of the project because of a credible third party, the Asian Development Bank (ADB). There is far greater transparency than most projects that get done in Pakistan. Therefore I still feel that the finances behind the project are most likely solid and there probably won't be too much financial corruption, if any.

The ADB agreed to the fund the project after carrying out a financial assessment according to which the project should pay for itself in due time. The fact that PTI was concentrating on self sustaining development was admirable.

Many of the provisions of the project are good ones I feel but I won't go into the details.

People have complained about the route plan and how it will create some choke points but I cannot comment on that. That is for the people of Peshawar to know.

But there has been delay after delay in the project. I obviously can't say with complete assurance but I can share what I have picked up. From what I can tell there is a good chance the project was always meant to be completed either at the start of 2019 or by the end of 2018. The economic feasibility report implies the same. It was reported that the scope of the project was increased by 50% right about when it was nearing the post election deadline. The court asked questions regarding this as well. Search some articles and this will come up. From this and some other reports I gather that the project was always meant to be completed by around the end of 2018 or the start of 2019, my guess is Feb 2019, but Pervez Khattak wanted to do some political point scoring so he had the project plan amended so that it could be completed before the elections and also might have rushed some of the construction. But when the pre-election deadline could not be met the original plan was restored once again which meant some of the construction had to be demolished, any corners that were cut had to be fixed. This in turn has caused the project to be delayed by an extra 4-5 months.

https://www.adb.org/sites/default/files/linked-documents/48289-002-efa.pdf
The above is the link to the economic assessment report of ADB. If you go to table 8 you'll see that the project is only shown to be operational in 2019 and even then the operational expenses are much less than the next 3-4 years which might mean that they didn't think the project would run for a full 12 months in that year. There were other reports and news article as well which implied this as well but I can't be bothered to find everything at the moment.

From the impression that I have the current KPK government is actually trying to conclude the project properly but they are having to clean up the Khattak regimes mess as well as having to deal with criticism and pressure that should be directed elsewhere.

The BRT might still be a good project for the city, but the citizens of Peshawar have every right to be angry due to what they are having to tolerate. For them the project was supposed to be completed a full year ago. Sooner or later somebody is going to have to answer for the mess and provide the public with the answers they deserve.
 
PTI folks,including me I guess, are going to have to learn to take criticism of the BRT project on the chin. Admit that so far it has been a mess, the actual project may be a good one but their political stunts have made it an embarrassment.

The grievances of the people of Peshawar are well warranted due to the number of false claims and promises regarding this project.


In the past I have defended the finances of the project because of a credible third party, the Asian Development Bank (ADB). There is far greater transparency than most projects that get done in Pakistan. Therefore I still feel that the finances behind the project are most likely solid and there probably won't be too much financial corruption, if any.

The ADB agreed to the fund the project after carrying out a financial assessment according to which the project should pay for itself in due time. The fact that PTI was concentrating on self sustaining development was admirable.

Many of the provisions of the project are good ones I feel but I won't go into the details.

People have complained about the route plan and how it will create some choke points but I cannot comment on that. That is for the people of Peshawar to know.

But there has been delay after delay in the project. I obviously can't say with complete assurance but I can share what I have picked up. From what I can tell there is a good chance the project was always meant to be completed either at the start of 2019 or by the end of 2018. The economic feasibility report implies the same. It was reported that the scope of the project was increased by 50% right about when it was nearing the post election deadline. The court asked questions regarding this as well. Search some articles and this will come up. From this and some other reports I gather that the project was always meant to be completed by around the end of 2018 or the start of 2019, my guess is Feb 2019, but Pervez Khattak wanted to do some political point scoring so he had the project plan amended so that it could be completed before the elections and also might have rushed some of the construction. But when the pre-election deadline could not be met the original plan was restored once again which meant some of the construction had to be demolished, any corners that were cut had to be fixed. This in turn has caused the project to be delayed by an extra 4-5 months.

https://www.adb.org/sites/default/files/linked-documents/48289-002-efa.pdf
The above is the link to the economic assessment report of ADB. If you go to table 8 you'll see that the project is only shown to be operational in 2019 and even then the operational expenses are much less than the next 3-4 years which might mean that they didn't think the project would run for a full 12 months in that year. There were other reports and news article as well which implied this as well but I can't be bothered to find everything at the moment.

From the impression that I have the current KPK government is actually trying to conclude the project properly but they are having to clean up the Khattak regimes mess as well as having to deal with criticism and pressure that should be directed elsewhere.

The BRT might still be a good project for the city, but the citizens of Peshawar have every right to be angry due to what they are having to tolerate. For them the project was supposed to be completed a full year ago. Sooner or later somebody is going to have to answer for the mess and provide the public with the answers they deserve.

That has happened already. There are permanent bottle-necks on University road (a very busy and important road) which have doubled the travel time.

The BRT project is a case study on how a developmental project should not be planned and executed. Yes it has not necessarily been exposed to financial corruption, but that hardly matters when millions and millions have been wasted due to sheer incompetence and mismanagement. They have completely goofed up this project.

Had this happened in Lahore or Karachi, PTI would have had a field day.
 
But you are hypocrite- whatever you reasons( looking back at your posting history, i highly doubt that your reasons are even true, remember the saplings). Maybe i too should had a corrupt family that gave me a free pass, and then like you i could have stayed in the country. But then again i may have ended up defending crooks of the Nooras and the PPP like you do.

You are free to call me a hypocrite and you are also free to call my family corrupt. However, what is stopping you from returning to Pakistan now and serving the country? What is stopping you now? Your previous excuse was that the government is corrupt and incompetent. However, that excuse is invalid now.

So when can we expect the honest and loyal son of the soil to return to his homeland that he cares about so much? :101:

You are an educated and smart man. This country can do with qualified teachers like you.
 
You are free to call me a hypocrite and you are also free to call my family corrupt. However, what is stopping you from returning to Pakistan now and serving the country? What is stopping you now? Your previous excuse was that the government is corrupt and incompetent. However, that excuse is invalid now.

So when can we expect the honest and loyal son of the soil to return to his homeland that he cares about so much? :101:

You are an educated and smart man. This country can do with qualified teachers like you.

You are hypocrite of the worst kind, brought up on corrupt money, and then defending other corrupt people who steal from the poor people and the only pathetic excuse you can give is that they are "competent" when every man and their dog knows they are corrupt and incompetent. As far as i am concerned, i have contributed more to PK through my investments than you OR your corrupt will ever do. My returns on my Investment are left in PK and distributed to our poor, one of the areas being education.
 
You are hypocrite of the worst kind, brought up on corrupt money, and then defending other corrupt people who steal from the poor people and the only pathetic excuse you can give is that they are "competent" when every man and their dog knows they are corrupt and incompetent. As far as i am concerned, i have contributed more to PK through my investments than you OR your corrupt will ever do. My returns on my Investment are left in PK and distributed to our poor, one of the areas being education.

Do you think every honest person like you should simply leave Pakistan and contribute through investments? Furthermore, how does it feel when in spite of the fact that you contribute to Pakistan more than corrupt hypocrites like me and my family, you are still not allowed to vote unlike me and my family.

Do you think the PTI government will address this blatant injustice and allow true sons of the soil like yourself to partake in the next election?
 
Do you think every honest person like you should simply leave Pakistan and contribute through investments? Furthermore, how does it feel when in spite of the fact that you contribute to Pakistan more than corrupt hypocrites like me and my family, you are still not allowed to vote unlike me and my family.

Do you think the PTI government will address this blatant injustice and allow true sons of the soil like yourself to partake in the next election?

If we had stayed in PK we would have been essentially landless peasants after my Dad had retired from the army. I dont really care if i can vote or not. My love for PK isnt diminished, I just care that the country my father so proudly served, is successful. If i get the vote brilliant but unlike you we are not all in it for ourselves.
 
That has happened already. There are permanent bottle-necks on University road (a very busy and important road) which have doubled the travel time.

The BRT project is a case study on how a developmental project should not be planned and executed. Yes it has not necessarily been exposed to financial corruption, but that hardly matters when millions and millions have been wasted due to sheer incompetence and mismanagement. They have completely goofed up this project.

Actually the BRT simply shows what happens when politicians interfere in development projects and why there should be laws and policies in place to prevent this. Something that PTI has talked about often. It is poetic justice at its most brutal that when they are facing this sort of embarrassment because they were guilty of that which they preached against.


Had this happened in Lahore or Karachi, PTI would have had a field day.

What do you mean had this happened? This has happened and is happening. The Islamabad metro expansion was supposed to be operational in August 2017, then December 2017, then August 2018 and then December 2018 and it's still not completed. PMLN will hide behind how the project is now being delayed by PTI whereas it actually came to a standstill near the end of the PMLN government, they did not set aside proper funds for it and as usual the funds disappeared in the last few days of their tenure. PTI has actually sped up the work in recent times but their is a lack of funding. Also this project will continue to cost money even after it's done. BRT on the financial side at least is a solid project, it was judged that it will pay for itself by a third party and still nothing has been spent by Pakistan on this project.

I haven't looked too much into the Greenline metro but from what I hear it's a disaster.

There's also the case of Islamabad Expressway expansion. Expansion was done till Koral chowk, I think Nawaz Sharif himself inaugurated it but when the government found out that the project will not be completed before elections they froze it and the funds disappeared. This caused a huge bottleneck and a person gets stuck in a 2 km stretch for a good 30 minutes. 10 billion were released for this a few weeks back, as reported by Jhang, by PTI.

The orange line metro had no financial feasibility, a poor design and has been plagued by continuous delays due to one reason or the other even under the PML-N regime.

These are just off the top of my head, there are dozens of similar cases.

From my experience the blunders of PML-N and PPP get discussed far less than that of PTI. PML-N and PPP folks brush it aside by saying that's just how things are or "khaata ha to lagata bhi ha" or "a bit of corruption is warranted". PTI folk just say what else do you expect? PTI on the other hand get bashed incessantly, and often hypocritically, by everyone, including many PTI supporters.
 
Actually the BRT simply shows what happens when politicians interfere in development projects and why there should be laws and policies in place to prevent this. Something that PTI has talked about often. It is poetic justice at its most brutal that when they are facing this sort of embarrassment because they were guilty of that which they preached against.




What do you mean had this happened? This has happened and is happening. The Islamabad metro expansion was supposed to be operational in August 2017, then December 2017, then August 2018 and then December 2018 and it's still not completed. PMLN will hide behind how the project is now being delayed by PTI whereas it actually came to a standstill near the end of the PMLN government, they did not set aside proper funds for it and as usual the funds disappeared in the last few days of their tenure. PTI has actually sped up the work in recent times but their is a lack of funding. Also this project will continue to cost money even after it's done. BRT on the financial side at least is a solid project, it was judged that it will pay for itself by a third party and still nothing has been spent by Pakistan on this project.

I haven't looked too much into the Greenline metro but from what I hear it's a disaster.

There's also the case of Islamabad Expressway expansion. Expansion was done till Koral chowk, I think Nawaz Sharif himself inaugurated it but when the government found out that the project will not be completed before elections they froze it and the funds disappeared. This caused a huge bottleneck and a person gets stuck in a 2 km stretch for a good 30 minutes. 10 billion were released for this a few weeks back, as reported by Jhang, by PTI.

The orange line metro had no financial feasibility, a poor design and has been plagued by continuous delays due to one reason or the other even under the PML-N regime.

These are just off the top of my head, there are dozens of similar cases.

From my experience the blunders of PML-N and PPP get discussed far less than that of PTI. PML-N and PPP folks brush it aside by saying that's just how things are or "khaata ha to lagata bhi ha" or "a bit of corruption is warranted". PTI folk just say what else do you expect? PTI on the other hand get bashed incessantly, and often hypocritically, by everyone, including many PTI supporters.

I am sure none of these projects in Islamabad, Lahore etc. have gone smoothly. Obviously they have been delayed and they have not been accomplished within the budget either. However, they key point here is that these cities have seen a lot of infrastructural development.

Unfortunately, if you come to Peshawar now, you would think that you are visiting a city that has been bombarded. Going from Peshawar to Islamabad/Lahore is like going to a different country. The BRT is literally the only major infrastructural project (apart from making a road here and there) that PTI undertook and they have still managed to mess it up.

PTI were too busy boasting over their immaculate planning and how they will complete the project in record time at minimal cost. All that big talk by Pervez Khattak has backfired massively. Their inexperience has been badly exposed on this front. PMLN govt. had many faults but there were good at development and infrastructure. That was their domain.
 
If we had stayed in PK we would have been essentially landless peasants after my Dad had retired from the army. I dont really care if i can vote or not. My love for PK isnt diminished, I just care that the country my father so proudly served, is successful. If i get the vote brilliant but unlike you we are not all in it for ourselves.

That is well and good. I am sure you and your family had reasons to migrate to the UK, and I have nothing but respect for the people who struggled in Pakistan and left their homeland to make their lives better. However, I am sure you are in a better position now, and probably have enough savings to return to Pakistan and provide your services here. So what is stopping you?
 
That is well and good. I am sure you and your family had reasons to migrate to the UK, and I have nothing but respect for the people who struggled in Pakistan and left their homeland to make their lives better. However, I am sure you are in a better position now, and probably have enough savings to return to Pakistan and provide your services here. So what is stopping you?
Being a Pakistani is one’s origin. It is also a state of mind. Being in country or not doesnt make one more or less Pakistani.

I have seen many people who by default are Pakistanis but they never have anything nice to say about the country. They put fuel on enemy’s views. They may be speaking the truth sometimes but they dont feel any sympathy towards their country. They may be willing to cover up a shameful act done by a family member, but they would happily advertise shameful act done by fellow countrymen. They in their own eyes are doing a good job, but they are the traitors.
 
That is well and good. I am sure you and your family had reasons to migrate to the UK, and I have nothing but respect for the people who struggled in Pakistan and left their homeland to make their lives better. However, I am sure you are in a better position now, and probably have enough savings to return to Pakistan and provide your services here. So what is stopping you?

My problem is a actually a very simple one and that is uprooting the children and the lack of family in PK. I have no primary family in PK, I have a distant uncle in Kashmir from my mums side But that's it. But our love for PK will always be there and nothing will ever diminish that.
 
I am sure none of these projects in Islamabad, Lahore etc. have gone smoothly. Obviously they have been delayed and they have not been accomplished within the budget either. However, they key point here is that these cities have seen a lot of infrastructural development.

Unfortunately, if you come to Peshawar now, you would think that you are visiting a city that has been bombarded. Going from Peshawar to Islamabad/Lahore is like going to a different country. The BRT is literally the only major infrastructural project (apart from making a road here and there) that PTI undertook and they have still managed to mess it up.

PTI were too busy boasting over their immaculate planning and how they will complete the project in record time at minimal cost. All that big talk by Pervez Khattak has backfired massively. Their inexperience has been badly exposed on this front. PMLN govt. had many faults but there were good at development and infrastructure. That was their domain.

THis! If there is one thing PMLN was good at it was this. However, when it came to foreign policies they had no idea what they were doing and that is where PPP was great at.

Pakistan didn't need infrastructure development, because that was going to elad to inflation either way, what Pakistan needed to concentrate were foreign and domestic policies and that is something only PPP looks into.

I remember how Zardari's govt fixed the pay issue of the Govt workers. Govt workers use to make peanuts. PLus, another thing that no one has ever talked about the policies that were bought in to reduce the inflation rate.

I dont understand the economic goal of current govt, subsidies have been stopped, prices are sky rocketing and then the ********* talk about more development taking place. Further economical development leads to more inflation.


I will also add, infrastrucute development is not even the govts job, thats the job of the local govt, once you come into parliament, this is not something you do. This is why the PMLN supporters baffle me.
 
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I'm sorry that IK is just making it even worse than it already was. I voted for IK as well but the prices are inflating. Even the IMF are predicting worse for us than it was previously predicted. Not a supporter of NS obviously but at least there was some growth.
 
I'm sorry that IK is just making it even worse than it already was. I voted for IK as well but the prices are inflating. Even the IMF are predicting worse for us than it was previously predicted. Not a supporter of NS obviously but at least there was some growth.

But*
 
I'm sorry that IK is just making it even worse than it already was. I voted for IK as well but the prices are inflating. Even the IMF are predicting worse for us than it was previously predicted. Not a supporter of NS obviously but at least there was some growth.

Its been explained enough times on here by many of us, but the growth was fuelled by Imports( hence the BOP of crisis, exports 24bn, imports over 50bn) and borrowing- over $60bn in the last 10 years. Its akin to living a life of luxury on credit cards, and then blaming the unfortunate person trying to repay the billions for the credit card borrowing. In a nutshell PK has lived beyond its means and if the Nooras had won the election the facade would have only lasted so long, and thus the reason Munshi Dar run off.
 
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