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Quaid-e-Azam Trophy | Super Eight, Round 3 | Dec 3-6, 2016

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Points Table

Group – I

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Group – II

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[tr][td]HBL [/td][td]2 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]15 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]UBL [/td][td]2 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]9 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]KRL [/td][td]2 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]1 [/td][td]3 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]NBP [/td][td]2 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]2 [/td][td]0 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
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ROUND THREE
SUPER EIGHT STAGE
December 3-6, 2016


GROUP – I

***NATIONAL STADIUM, KARACHI

SNGPL vs. Karachi Region White (D/N)

Umpires: Muhammad Sajid & Ahmed Shahab
Referee: Nadeem Arshad
Scorer: Junaid Afzal

*** NIAZ STADIUM, HYDERABAD

WAPDA vs. SSGC

Umpires: Ahsan Raza & Qaiser Waheed
Referee: Iqbal Sheikh
Scorer: Arif Abdul Majeed

GROUP - II

*** UBL GROUND NO 1, KARACHI

KRL vs. NBP
Umpires: Riazuddin & Ghaffar Kazmi
Referee: Iftikhar Ahmed
Scorer: Wasim Abbas

*** NBP STADIUM, KARACHI

HBL vs. UBL

Umpires: Imtiaz Iqbal & Asif Yaqoob
Referee: Ishtiaq Ahmed
Scorer: Obaid Ahmed
 
Another farce of a season with underprepared pitches and 70 overs per day. On these pitches ordinary quick bowlers average under 20 , heck even bilawal bhatti is averaging 23. These pitches are one of the reason we are failing to produce quality quick bowlers , they do not have to work hard on these pitches to get wickets. When they play on true pitches , they fail.
 
Another hundred for Kamran Akmal. His 5th of the season after WAPDA were 25/4.

Salman Butt made 11, out to Zia-ul-Haq.
 
ROUND THREE

SUPER EIGHT STAGE

DAY ONE OF FOUR

December 3, 2016


GROUP – I


*** NIAZ STADIUM, HYDERABAD

WAPDA (first innings) 226-5 in 90 overs
(Kamran Akmal 131*, 15x4s, 222 balls, Adnan Raees 57, 5x4s, 224 balls, Ahmed Jamal 2-33)

SSGC (first innings) in overs

Toss: SSGC

Umpires: Ahsan Raza & Qaiser Waheed
Referee: Iqbal Sheikh
Scorer: Arif Abdul Majeed


GROUP - II


*** UBL GROUND NO 1, KARACHI

KRL (first innings) 244-10 in 84 overs
(Usman Arshad 121, 12x4s, 216 balls, Muhammad Abbas 38, 5x4s, 103 balls, Luqman Butt 32, 4x4s, 1x6, 83 balls, Shoaib Ahmed 20, 4x4s, 44 balls, Atif Jabbar 5-43, Muhammad Irfan 3-27)

NBP (first innings) 16-0 in 5 overs

Toss: KRL

Umpires: Riazuddin & Ghaffar Kazmi
Referee: Iftikhar Ahmed
Scorer: Wasim Abbas


*** NBP STADIUM, KARACHI

HBL (first innings) 280-3 in 97 overs
(Imran Farhat 128*, 14x4s, 3x6s, 258 balls, Imam-ul-Haq 129, 13x4s, 169 balls, Mir Hamza 2-41)

UBL

Toss: HBL

Umpires: Imtiaz Iqbal & Asif Yaqoob
Referee: Ishtiaq Ahmed
Scorer: Syed Obaid Ahmed
 
This is injustice for Kamran. He is going to cross 1,000 runs in 8 matches for 95/75 sort of stats, still can't make the PAK squad!!!!!!

And, he is scoring these from 25/4, 42/6, 57/5 sort of position. At least, he should have been in AUS as back-up keeper - once YK gets "injured", most likely after Brisbane, KAkmal should have batted at 5, with Asad taking No. 4 spot.
 
MMHS said:
This is injustice for Kamran. He is going to cross 1,000 runs in 8 matches for 95/75 sort of stats, still can't make the PAK squad!!!!!!

And, he is scoring these from 25/4, 42/6, 57/5 sort of position. At least, he should have been in AUS as back-up keeper - once YK gets "injured", most likely after Brisbane, KAkmal should have batted at 5, with Asad taking No. 4 spot.
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what about uSMAN???
 
MMHS said:
This is injustice for Kamran. He is going to cross 1,000 runs in 8 matches for 95/75 sort of stats, still can't make the PAK squad!!!!!!

And, he is scoring these from 25/4, 42/6, 57/5 sort of position. At least, he should have been in AUS as back-up keeper - once YK gets "injured", most likely after Brisbane, KAkmal should have batted at 5, with Asad taking No. 4 spot.
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Kamran will never be forgiven no matter what he does.
 
Never been a big fan of Akmal,s keeping but the guy is a very very attractive batsman. Scoring very heavily in domestics, should earn a recall. It's crazy how Akmal at 34 , with tons of runs in QA trophy is too old for a comeback but 43 year old Younis after long run of failure can not be dropped.
 
moghul said:
Never been a big fan of Akmal,s keeping but the guy is a very very attractive batsman. Scoring very heavily in domestics, should earn a recall. It's crazy how Akmal at 34 , with tons of runs in QA trophy is too old for a comeback but 43 year old Younis after long run of failure can not be dropped.
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Actually, YK is 39, if you take KAkmal as 35 - or KAkmal is 38, if you take YK 43 - take your pick. KAkmal won't last more than a year, but PAK should use this red hot form of KAkmal as a stop-gap. My biggest fear is, KAkmal will be picked for WI tour (after YK fails in AUS), which will be bigger mistake than not taking him down under. More or less, since Akram, this has been the story of PAK team - players picked 3-5 years later than what they should have been. This is because, when your spot is a function of relationship - the senior you become, more "friends" you have to back your bottom & hence you can drag on for 3 to 5 years. Aamir & Salman Butt are probably last 2 "teenager" to debut for PAK since Akram was ousted from Captaincy & this'll reach to official 29 years old "Youngster debutante" level, if Misbah, Inzi & Shahriar holds on to their stand for another couple of years.

Khan used my theory regarding "age or PAK players" - hence his bowlers used to debut at a very tender age of 19, 18, 17 even 16 - and they lost hunger by the time they were 33, 32,..... even 29. In fact, only players debuted under him at 21 or more was Amir Sohail ....... & only player I can recall played under him after "Official" 35 is probably Javed Miandad. Normally, official age of 18 to 35 was his lower & upper limit for PAK team (Imran would have been officially 35 at his retirement & 29 when he became No. 1 bowler in 1987 - on standard operating process) - even Mazid Khan stumbled in that race on first hurdle. For bowlers, upper limit was 33 - even for his distant cousin Abdul Qadir.

This issue, didn't hurt PAK team till 1990s, even 2000s when fitness regime was different for Cricket - besides individual talent could have won matches, particularly bowling talent, as the game was more balanced to bowlers - now the game is like "hit & run" soccer style - now, it's won by power, stamina, fielding, running & endurance, particularly LO games - here, 35 has to be 35 & 23 has to be 23 - not 23 with 8 years FC experienced, stating at 15.
 
ROUND THREE

SUPER EIGHT STAGE

DAY ONE OF FOUR

December 3, 2016

Day & Night

GROUP – I

***NATIONAL STADIUM, KARACHI

SNGPL (first innings) 339-7 in 90 overs (Iftikhar Ahmed 172*, 20x4s, 262 balls, Adnan Akmal 79, 11x4s, 99 balls, Khurram Shahzad 24, 4x4s, 48 balls, Abubakar Khan 22, 3x4s, 49 balls, Tabish Khan 4-61)

Karachi Region White

Toss: SNGPL

Umpires: Muhammad Sajid & Ahmed Shahab
Referee: Nadeem Arshad
Scorer: Junaid Afzal
 
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Prince of Pakistan said:
Kamran will never be forgiven no matter what he does.
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It's not about forgiving - it's about double standard. Ahmed can't be considered for Test squad because he is not playing in FC games; now, Kamran is running riot with bat in QA, but he can't be recalled for shady past; on contrary Amir can be called back for his talent, Sami is dropping dollies at 1st slip while Nawaz can be carried without playing either FC or Test...

These are all after being clean swept by a very average Kiwi side, without rain, for a grand total of 5.5 days work.

I knew, he'll put his "mark", but never thought Inzi will make Mohsin Khan feel like Imran Khan....
 
Imran Farhat, Kamraan Akmal and Iftikhar Ahmed scoring BIG centuries.


The return of the TTF brigade
 
MMHS said:
It's not about forgiving - it's about double standard. Ahmed can't be considered for Test squad because he is not playing in FC games; now, Kamran is running riot with bat in QA, but he can't be recalled for shady past; on contrary Amir can be called back for his talent, Sami is dropping dollies at 1st slip while Nawaz can be carried without playing either FC or Test...

These are all after being clean swept by a very average Kiwi side, without rain, for a grand total of 5.5 days work.

I knew, he'll put his "mark", but never thought Inzi will make Mohsin Khan feel like Imran Khan....
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That's the thing. Amir was still very liked by the most. While Butt, Asif and Kami (for Sydney) were/are always bashed.

The reason Kami will not be welcomed. It's sad in a way as he is pretty useful as a batsman only in the limited overs format.
 
Syed1 said:
Imran Farhat, Kamraan Akmal and Iftikhar Ahmed scoring BIG centuries.


The return of the TTF brigade
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Our domestic system is finished. Players like Iftikhar Ahmed have no business making 170+ scores.
 
Final is on 10th December and will be telecasted Live.

SSGC and WAPDA have 19 points each and are playing each other.


Wapda 353 All out. Kamran Akmal 144, Adnan Raees 57, Zulfiqar Babar 56.
Zia ul Haq 3/62 Ahmad Jamal 2/33 Amir Yamin 2/78.


In Reply SSGC are 37/2 at the moment.
 
mz123 said:
really nice to see that a non-pakistani is such a huge pakistan fan...
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I have been for forty years! Too old to grow out of it now.

I was at Adelaide, and the unorthodox techniques of Renshaw and Handscomb were crying out for a Mohammad Asif to dismantle them.

But I have no faith that the current attack is capable of that. They lack the cricket brains to form a plan and the control of line and length to execute it.
 
GROUP – I


* NIAZ STADIUM, HYDERABAD


WAPDA (first innings) 353-10 in 137 overs
(Kamran Akmal 144, 12x4s, 234 balls, Adnan Raees 57, 5x4s, 224 balls, Zulfiqar Babar 55, 4x4s, 1x6, 94 balls, Waqas Maqsood 36, 5x4s, 107 balls, Zia-ul-Haq 3-61, Ahmed Jamal 2-33, Aamir Yamin 2-78)

SSGC (first innings) 127-4 in 41 overs
(Awais Zia 49, 7x4s, 78 balls, Asif Zakir 41*, 5x4s, 92 balls, Waqas Maqsood 3-25)

Overnight: WAPDA (first innings) 226-5 in 90 overs

Toss: SSGC

Umpires: Ahsan Raza & Qaiser Waheed
Referee: Iqbal Sheikh
Scorer: Arif Abdul Majeed


GROUP - II


* UBL GROUND NO 1, KARACHI


KRL (first innings) 244-10 in 84 overs
(Usman Arshad 121, 12x4s, 216 balls, Muhammad Abbas 38, 5x4s, 103 balls, Luqman Butt 32, 4x4s, 1x6, 83 balls, Shoaib Ahmed 20, 4x4s, 44 balls, Atif Jabbar 5-43, Muhammad Irfan 3-27)

(2nd innings) 8-0 in 1 overs

NBP (first innings) 287-10 in 85.1 overs (Rameez Raja 102, 14x4s, 205 balls, Naveed Sarwar 83, 10x4s, 163 balls, Qaiser Abbas 20, 2x4s, 30 balls, Ahmed Bashir 4-56, Muhammad Abbas 3-47, Nauman Ali 3-84)

Overnight: NBP (first innings) 16-0 in 5 overs

Toss: KRL

Umpires: Riazuddin & Ghaffar Kazmi
Referee: Iftikhar Ahmed
Scorer: Wasim Abbas


* NBP STADIUM, KARACHI


HBL (first innings) 486-10 in 97 overs
(Imran Farhat 133, 14x4s, 3x6s, 272 balls, Imam-ul-Haq 129, 13x4s, 169 balls, Abdul Rehman 58*, 5x4s, 2x6s, 116 balls, Muhammad Waqas 49, 8x4s, 122 balls, Azeem Ghumman 28, 5x4s, 81 balls, Jamal Anwar 28, 2x4s, 122 balls, Mir Hamza 5-65, Muhammad Asghar 3-166, Yasim Murtaza 2-22)

UBL (first innings) 20-0 in 6 overs

Overnight: HBL (first innings) 280-3 in 97 overs

Toss: HBL

Umpires: Imtiaz Iqbal & Asif Yaqoob
Referee: Ishtiaq Ahmed
Scorer: Syed Obaid Ahmed
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
9 overs 3 maidens 25 runs 0 wicket.

3 wides (indicating rustiness after injury)
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Early in the match to write him off, I guess, as there are still 16 out of 20 wickets to be taken.

A large part of his value is in terms of tying the batsman down until he makes a mistake.
 
DAY TWO OF FOUR

December 4, 2016

Day & Night


GROUP – I


* NATIONAL STADIUM, KARACHI


SNGPL (first innings) 361-10 in 90 overs (Iftikhar Ahmed 181, 21x4s, 275 balls, Adnan Akmal 79, 11x4s, 99 balls, Khurram Shahzad 24, 4x4s, 48 balls, Abubakar Khan 22, 3x4s, 49 balls, Tabish Khan 7-77)

(2nd innings) 13-0 in 3 overs

Karachi Region White (first innings) 206-10 in 73.5 overs (Behram Khan 64, 8x4s, 125 balls, Faraz Ali 44, 7x4s, 87 balls, Hamza Ghanchi 23, 4x4s, 54 balls, Imran Ali 3-31, Muhammad Imran 2-57, Asad Ali 2-69)

Overnight: SNGPL (first innings) 339-7 in 90 overs

Toss: SNGPL

Umpires: Muhammad Sajid & Ahmed Shahab
Referee: Nadeem Arshad
Scorer: Junaid Afzal
 
Junaids said:
Early in the match to write him off, I guess, as there are still 16 out of 20 wickets to be taken.

A large part of his value is in terms of tying the batsman down until he makes a mistake.
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No boss, never.

Asif's value is his new ball use - getting top order batsmen out against their best defense with new ball. If you want someone to bowl 9 overs in first 25 for a 2.8 economy, better to use someone like Anwar Ali - much better Batsman & Fielder; he can easily slant away new ball a foot wide outside off with 7-2 field for a 2.5 economy with new Kookaburra - I am sure you understand exactly what I am saying. Imran did the same thing on 1st Day (afternoon) of 2nd Test on a Green Top.

Asif might be rusty after 10 weeks gap, but this is absolute failure, if you think about role profile of a player. PAK team needs Amir's partner with new ball, better if it's a right-armer. Sohail is as good as anyone at present PAK can bring; unfortunately for first 10-12 overs only, because by his genuine age, the best ever I had seen of his type, was 4th year into his retirement after SCG Test against PAK in Jan 1984.

I have a little know how about PAK's domestic cricket - in same match, someone Waqas Maqsood had identical overs bowled & runs conceded, but for 3 wickets of Zain Abbas, Ali Asad & Fawad Alam - AND all 3 are left-hander (in fact the 4th wicket Awais is also lefti - that's 4 of top 5, only possible in QA Style). In other way, you are saying that Asif bowled economically for 9 overs with new ball against a barrage of left-handers ............. I guess, you better restrain yourself from posting in this thread for few days.

Though another Lefti, but I would have definitely taken Hamza to AUS - in a score of 486, young man has bowled exceptionally for 29'4-12-66-5 figures, mostly top order wickets with new ball; also most of his wickets this season are from top 6. At Official 24, time is racing away from him - if he doesn't make it now, Inzi & Misbah will make another Abdur Rauf story.

Misbah & Inzi are probably 2 worst combination for NextGen cricketers - even Babar & Sami would have carried drinks for 2 more years without Arthur. It's ironical that, Inzi cost Misbah almost half a decade of his best time - now both are doing the same for at least half a dozen young players.
 
Why isn't Ehsan Adil playing anymore for HBL? Is he injured or been dropped?
 
Another single digit score by Hafeez, he is in horrible form with bat, has not bowled for long and talking about making a come back to national side.
 
moghul said:
Another single digit score by Hafeez, he is in horrible form with bat, has not bowled for long and talking about making a come back to national side.
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And, he is using his position as Captain to drop down at 3 - if this season had another 7/8 matches; he would have gone down to No. 6 & bowled 50+ overs/match, regardless of what, just to prove his worth. Really, really intelligent guy; which has prolonged his career by 10 years (out of 11 ...)
 
MMHS said:
And, he is using his position as Captain to drop down at 3 - if this season had another 7/8 matches; he would have gone down to No. 6 & bowled 50+ overs/match, regardless of what, just to prove his worth. Really, really intelligent guy; which has prolonged his career by 10 years (out of 11 ...)
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If he isn't scoring runs with the bat he isn't going to be selected. With Misbah almost certain to retire after the Australian series, don't see a way back for national treasure.
 
[MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION] just read that Muhammad Irfan- (Lahore Qalandars representative/ member of the Lahore Qalandars rising star team) is playing for UBL. How has he performed?
 
Ellipsism said:
[MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION] just read that Muhammad Irfan- (Lahore Qalandars representative/ member of the Lahore Qalandars rising star team) is playing for UBL. How has he performed?
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Pretty sure he's the one playing for NBP.

17-9-27-3 in the first innings of the ongoing match against KRL.

http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/515/515999/515999.html

Edit: Just saw where you got the information from - that's incorrect. His 5-fer was against UBL, not for UBL. Above is correct.
 
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He's been in terrible form of late.
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This is Ehsan Adil's First Class record in the 2016-17 QEA tournament:

1-36 and 1-24
3-52
0-80 and 0-19

So 5 wickets in 3 matches at an average of 42.2.

Pretty Sohail Khan-esque really.
 
DRsohail said:
what about uSMAN???
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Different type of batsman (I believe, you are talking about Salahuddin) - his game is in the mold of Azhar Ali, which is not required in this team in AUS. He is scoring runs at 45-50 SR - that's in his best season by some margin, which indicates he is a 30s SR player. Besides, what I can recall, Usman, is predominantly front-foot player - outside PAK (& UAE), he might struggle to maintain even 35/38 stats.
 
Hasan123 said:
If he isn't scoring runs with the bat he isn't going to be selected. With Misbah almost certain to retire after the Australian series, don't see a way back for national treasure.
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But, PAK will need a "cool" Captain, with experience & "intelligence". Be careful, be very careful (& sacred) - there are many Buzurgs who believe the is a 2nd coming of Mazid Khan & many of them had played with/against Mazid :(
 
Stumps Day 3

SSGC 298/7

Maqbool 57*

Irfan 30*



56 runs needs by SSGC to qualify for Final while Wapda needs 3 wickets within next 54 runs.



# Cliffhanger
 
DAY THREE OF FOUR

December 5, 2016
GROUP – I


*** NIAZ STADIUM, HYDERABAD


WAPDA (first innings) 353-10 in 137 overs
(Kamran Akmal 144, 12x4s, 234 balls, Adnan Raees 57, 5x4s, 224 balls, Zulfiqar Babar 55, 4x4s, 1x6, 94 balls, Waqas Maqsood 36, 5x4s, 107 balls, Zia-ul-Haq 3-61, Ahmed Jamal 2-33, Aamir Yamin 2-78)

SSGC (first innings) 298-7 in 132 overs
(Adil Amin 90, 10x4s, 214 balls, Awais Zia 49, 7x4s, 78 balls, Asif Zakir 42, 5x4s, 97 balls, Maqbool Ahmed 57*, 5x4s, 252 balls, Muhammad Irfan 30*, 3x4s, 109 balls, Waqas Maqsood 3-61)

Overnight: SSGC (first innings) 127-4 in 41 overs

Toss: SSGC

Umpires: Ahsan Raza & Qaiser Waheed
Referee: Iqbal Sheikh
Scorer: Arif Abdul Majeed


GROUP - II


*** UBL GROUND NO 1, KARACHI


KRL (first innings) 244-10 in 84 overs
(Usman Arshad 121, 12x4s, 216 balls, Muhammad Abbas 38, 5x4s, 103 balls, Luqman Butt 32, 4x4s, 1x6, 83 balls, Shoaib Ahmed 20, 4x4s, 44 balls, Atif Jabbar 5-43, Muhammad Irfan 3-27)

(2nd innings) 184-10 in 63.3 overs
(Muhammad Yasin 7x4s, 131 balls, Shoaib Ahmed 29, 5x4s, 35 balls, Nauman Ali 20n 3x4s, 27 balls, Atif Jabbar 5-50, Kamran Ghulam 2-40)

NBP (first innings) 287-10 in 85.1 overs
(Rameez Raja 102, 14x4s, 205 balls, Naveed Sarwar 83, 10x4s, 163 balls, Qaiser Abbas 20, 2x4s, 30 balls, Ahmed Bashir 4-56, Muhammad Abbas 3-47, Nauman Ali 3-84)

(2nd innings) 54-4 in 17.2 overs
(Hamza Paracha 24, 2x4s, 38 balls, Muhammad Abbas 3-22)

Overnight: KRL (2nd innings) 8-0 in 1 overs

Toss: KRL

Umpires: Riazuddin & Ghaffar Kazmi
Referee: Iftikhar Ahmed
Scorer: Wasim Abbas


*** NBP STADIUM, KARACHI


HBL (first innings) 486-10 in 97 overs
(Imran Farhat 133, 14x4s, 3x6s, 272 balls, Imam-ul-Haq 129, 13x4s, 169 balls, Abdul Rehman 58*, 5x4s, 2x6s, 116 balls, Muhammad Waqas 49, 8x4s, 122 balls, Azeem Ghumman 28, 5x4s, 81 balls, Jamal Anwar 28, 2x4s, 122 balls, Mir Hamza 5-65, Muhammad Asghar 3-166, Yasim Murtaza 2-22)

UBL (first innings) 20-0 in 6 overs

The match between UBL and HBL of the Super Eight round of Quaid-e-Azam Trophy at NBP Stadium, Karachi has been abandoned due to fire erupted in a hotel where the players are staying. Nadeem Khan, Manager UBL has made a request to the PCB to abandon the match as the players are not in a condition to resume the match. The PCB’s domestic committee has accepted the request and therefore both teams are awarded one point each for no result. HBL qualifies for the final.

Overnight: UBL (first innings) 20-0 in 6 overs

Toss: HBL

Umpires: Imtiaz Iqbal & Asif Yaqoob
Referee: Ishtiaq Ahmed
Scorer: Syed Obaid Ahmed
 
Asif Day 2: 9-3-25-0
Asif Day 3: 14-7-13-0

Not striking, but keeping it awfully tight.
 
DAY THREE OF FOUR

December 5, 2016

Day & Night


GROUP – I


***NATIONAL STADIUM, KARACHI

SNGPL (first innings) 361-10 in 90 overs
(Iftikhar Ahmed 181, 21x4s, 275 balls, Adnan Akmal 79, 11x4s, 99 balls, Khurram Shahzad 24, 4x4s, 48 balls, Abubakar Khan 22, 3x4s, 49 balls, Tabish Khan 7-77)

(2nd innings) 237-10 in 62.4 overs
(Abubakar Khan 55, 8x4s, 68 balls, Imran Butt 48, 9x4s, 84 balls, Khurram Shahzad 46, 8x4s, 96 balls, Adnan Akmal 29, 5x4s, 35 balls, Babar-ur-Rehman 5-51, Tabish Khan 4-66)

Karachi Region White (first innings) 206-10 in 73.5 overs
(Behram Khan 64, 8x4s, 125 balls, Faraz Ali 44, 7x4s, 87 balls, Hamza Ghanchi 23, 4x4s, 54 balls, Imran Ali 3-31, Muhammad Imran 2-57, Asad Ali 2-69)

(2nd innings) 63-5 in 20.5 overs
(Behram Khan 28, 5x4s, 55 balls, Asad Ali 3-30)

Overnight: SNGPL (2nd innings) 13-0 in 3 overs

Toss: SNGPL

Umpires: Muhammad Sajid & Ahmed Shahab
Referee: Nadeem Arshad
Scorer: Junaid Afzal
 
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MMHS said:
Different type of batsman (I believe, you are talking about Salahuddin) - his game is in the mold of Azhar Ali, which is not required in this team in AUS. He is scoring runs at 45-50 SR - that's in his best season by some margin, which indicates he is a 30s SR player. Besides, what I can recall, Usman, is predominantly front-foot player - outside PAK (& UAE), he might struggle to maintain even 35/38 stats.
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dont u think we can afford to give him a go?///??may be he is mentally tough and can handle the pressure well unlike shfiq the mental midget??? he can improve his back foot game ..
 
DRsohail said:
dont u think we can afford to give him a go?///??may be he is mentally tough and can handle the pressure well unlike shfiq the mental midget??? he can improve his back foot game ..
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Indeed can - depends on how many years he has bunked. By the age of 23, a player should complete batting fundamentals - next 2/3 years to develop the game. Normally 23-35 is the best period of a batsman with peak around 29 - there are examples like Misbah, but you see, Misbah is not someone that can take a game away (which he definitely was capable when Inzi kept him out of the team).

Usman is officially 26 - I am not sure if he has the time to shift his batting base from front-foot to balanced or back-foot. That's why it's extremely important that PAK's domestic wickets have pace & bounce - you can't check a generation of players with 1 A side tour of 2 matches in UK or SAF or AUS for every 5 years!!!!!!

I back Amin (& Haris) because their fundamental game is developed on balanced stance & all-round game; you can build on that. But, take Ahmed or Shaan - still bunny on back-foot after 2/3 years constant spots for PAK National team, because their core game is based on planted front-foot; and Mian Malik is Emperor Alexander the Great in this regard - played in different places throughout half of the Globe for best part of 20 years, still anything over 134KM & waste height makes him calling Selucas.
 
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MMHS said:
But, PAK will need a "cool" Captain, with experience & "intelligence". Be careful, be very careful (& sacred) - there are many Buzurgs who believe the is a 2nd coming of Mazid Khan & many of them had played with/against Mazid :(
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Azhar or Sarfraz will take over. Hafeez said he doesn't want to be considered as a capatin when he stepped down from the t20 capatincy.
 
Another ordinary day for Asif. Very accurate but no wickets. At the moment he should just think of bowling lots and lots of overs.
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
Another ordinary day for Asif. Very accurate but no wickets. At the moment he should just think of bowling lots and lots of overs.
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Is 14-9-13-0 an ordinary day?

I'm pretty sure that Mickey Arthur would jump for joy to have that at the opposite end from Mohammad Amir.
 
Junaids said:
Is 14-9-13-0 an ordinary day?

I'm pretty sure that Mickey Arthur would jump for joy to have that at the opposite end from Mohammad Amir.
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Exactly. Some people don't understand the critical role of of a bowler who can keep it tight and make things difficult for the batsmen. Wickets come eventually.
 
Speedster777 said:
Exactly. Some people don't understand the critical role of of a bowler who can keep it tight and make things difficult for the batsmen. Wickets come eventually.
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Figures of 14-9-13-0 are what Glenn McGrath and Curtly Ambrose based their whole careers on.

The danger for Pakistan at Brisbane next week if they bowl with the Pink Ball by daylight is of the Aussie batsmen scoring at 4 per over and making an unbeatable score of 300+. They could be in an unbeatable position before the floodlights come on.

But with Asif, Pakistan could restrict the score somewhere along these lines, leading to batsmen being desperate to up the scoring rate before dark and getting out:

First hour Australia 22-2 at drinks
Amir 6-2-15-2
Asif 6-3-7-0

Second hour Australia 61-3 at Tea
Rahat 7-1-22-1
Yasir 7-2-17-0

Third hour Australia 96-4 at drinks
Amir second spell 6-2-17-0
Asif second spell 6-3-16-1

Fourth hour Australia 141-6 at Dinner
Rahat second spell 7-1-25-1
Yasir second spell 7-2-20-1

The key to this - which is a typical Australian Pink Ball hour by hour scoreboard - is the economy of Mohammad Asif, keeping the scoring rate low and making the batsmen take risks to score before dark.

Dinner time figures would be:

Mohammad Amir 12-4-31-2
Mohammad Asif 12-6-23-1
Rahat Ali 14-2-47-2
Yasir Shah 14-4-37-1

Whereas Sohail Khan would be looking more at:

12-1-53-0
 
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Azhar or Sarfraz will take over. Hafeez said he doesn't want to be considered as a capatin when he stepped down from the t20 capatincy.
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First part is fine - the bold part comes with a footnote.

*It's a trade off - instead of being in the rat race of Captaincy with Afridi, the safer option was to throw that poisoned cliche. The return was multiple times dividend - Category A contract, only player to be automatic choice in all 3 formats, a top 3 batting spot in ODI/Test, bowling full quota almost always, preferable fielding spot .....

That time, better trading was leaving the Captaincy, with Afridi, Misbah & YK around - not sure market is same now.
 
MMHS said:
First part is fine - the bold part comes with a footnote.

*It's a trade off - instead of being in the rat race of Captaincy with Afridi, the safer option was to throw that poisoned cliche. The return was multiple times dividend - Category A contract, only player to be automatic choice in all 3 formats, a top 3 batting spot in ODI/Test, bowling full quota almost always, preferable fielding spot .....

That time, better trading was leaving the Captaincy, with Afridi, Misbah & YK around - not sure market is same now.
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Wouldn't put it past to Hafeez to behave like this. But if his actual age is 38/39 I don't see him lasting long on a potential return anyway.

Also Sami and azhar are doing a good job opening so there is no slot for him there, in Odis sharjeel will be stuck with . Azhar is the skipper so he gets a long rope. Babar is at 3 so no space for him there. He won't drop below 3 as batting in the top 3 is where the seniors loving batting if I am to quote yourself
 
Hasan123 said:
Wouldn't put it past to Hafeez to behave like this. But if his actual age is 38/39 I don't see him lasting long on a potential return anyway.

Also Sami and azhar are doing a good job opening so there is no slot for him there, in Odis sharjeel will be stuck with . Azhar is the skipper so he gets a long rope. Babar is at 3 so no space for him there. He won't drop below 3 as batting in the top 3 is where the seniors loving batting if I am to quote yourself
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I don't disagree with you, but I don't trust Inzi & Misbah to be frank. Misbah left his mark on PAK ODI team by smoothing Azhar into ODI Captaincy; he can do that with MoHa for Test (Suggest him as his successor) & Inzi is one degree higher when it comes to Seniority.

I have seen Inzi for 25 years now - wonderful cricketer, one of the best naturally gifted ever. But, he is extremely loyalist & he has his favorites. I make lots of fun with many previous CS - Farhat's FiL, Mohsin, Qasim, Bari, Mohsin, Moin - but, I never questioned Inzi's technical qualification as CS; because that guy posses outstanding understanding of the game (otherwise he won't had been that clinical chaser) - still, he has picked identical 16 players for UAE, NZ & AUS ............. you have to question his motive here.
 
Junaids said:
Figures of 14-9-13-0 are what Glenn McGrath and Curtly Ambrose based their whole careers on.

The danger for Pakistan at Brisbane next week if they bowl with the Pink Ball by daylight is of the Aussie batsmen scoring at 4 per over and making an unbeatable score of 300+. They could be in an unbeatable position before the floodlights come on.

But with Asif, Pakistan could restrict the score somewhere along these lines, leading to batsmen being desperate to up the scoring rate before dark and getting out:

First hour Australia 22-2 at drinks
Amir 6-2-15-2
Asif 6-3-7-0

Second hour Australia 61-3 at Tea
Rahat 7-1-22-1
Yasir 7-2-17-0

Third hour Australia 96-4 at drinks
Amir second spell 6-2-17-0
Asif second spell 6-3-16-1

Fourth hour Australia 141-6 at Dinner
Rahat second spell 7-1-25-1
Yasir second spell 7-2-20-1

The key to this - which is a typical Australian Pink Ball hour by hour scoreboard - is the economy of Mohammad Asif, keeping the scoring rate low and making the batsmen take risks to score before dark.

Dinner time figures would be:

Mohammad Amir 12-4-31-2
Mohammad Asif 12-6-23-1
Rahat Ali 14-2-47-2
Yasir Shah 14-4-37-1

Whereas Sohail Khan would be looking more at:

12-1-53-0
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It is criminal to base predictions off Pakistani FC games.
 
plz no asif in the team...criminals should not be allowed bak..he was caught 4 times doing criminal activity...we dont need trouble makers..
 
So Mohammad Asif has just single-handedly bowled WAPDA into the QEA Final!

SSGC was 298-7 this morning, needing 55 more runs to eliminate Asif and reach the Final.

Asif then bowled a spell of 3-0-3-3 to ensure that WAPDA took first innings points and win the match.

They said he had to break down the door to be selected.

Now he has!
 
ROUND THREE

SUPER EIGHT STAGE

DAY FOUR OF FOUR

December 6, 2016


GROUP – I

***NATIONAL STADIUM, KARACHI (Day & Night)

SNGPL (first innings) 361-10 in 90 overs (Iftikhar Ahmed 181, 21x4s, 275 balls, Adnan Akmal 79, 11x4s, 99 balls, Khurram Shahzad 24, 4x4s, 48 balls, Abubakar Khan 22, 3x4s, 49 balls, Tabish Khan 7-77)

(2nd innings) 237-10 in 62.4 overs (Abubakar Khan 55, 8x4s, 68 balls, Imran Butt 48, 9x4s, 84 balls, Khurram Shahzad 46, 8x4s, 96 balls, Adnan Akmal 29, 5x4s, 35 balls, Babar-ur-Rehman 5-51, Tabish Khan 4-66)

Karachi Region White (first innings) 206-10 in 73.5 overs (Behram Khan 64, 8x4s, 125 balls, Faraz Ali 44, 7x4s, 87 balls, Hamza Ghanchi 23, 4x4s, 54 balls, Imran Ali 3-31, Muhammad Imran 2-57, Asad Ali 2-69)

(2nd innings) 202-10 in 46.5 overs (Daniyal Ahsan 52*, 10x4s, 52 balls, Babar-ur-Rehman 36, 7x4s, 44 balls, Behram Khan 28, 5x4s, 55 balls, Asad Ali 4-63, Muhammad Imran 4-73, Imran ALi 2-60)

Result: SNGPL won by 190 runs

Overnight: Karachi Region White (2nd innings) 63-5 in 20.5 overs

Toss: SNGPL

Umpires: Muhammad Sajid & Ahmed Shahab
Referee: Nadeem Arshad

Scorer: Junaid Afzal



*** NIAZ STADIUM, HYDERABAD

WAPDA (first innings) 353-10 in 137 overs (Kamran Akmal 144, 12x4s, 234 balls, Adnan Raees 57, 5x4s, 224 balls, Zulfiqar Babar 55, 4x4s, 1x6, 94 balls, Waqas Maqsood 36, 5x4s, 107 balls, Zia-ul-Haq 3-61, Ahmed Jamal 2-33, Aamir Yamin 2-78)

(2nd innings) 136-4 in 80 overs (Zahid Mansoor 39, 3x4s, 160 balls Salman Butt 33, 3x4s, 173 balls, Kamran Akmal 30, 2x6s, 54 balls, Muhammad Saad 19*, 1x4, 1x6, 65 balls,, Muhammad Irfan 3-38)

SSGC (first innings) 306-10 in 138 overs (Adil Amin 90, 10x4s, 214 balls, Awais Zia 49, 7x4s, 78 balls, Asif Zakir 42, 5x4s, 97 balls, Maqbool Ahmed 57*, 3x4s, 258 balls, Muhammad Irfan 36*, 3x4s, 120 balls, Muhammad Asif 3-41, Waqas Maqsood 3-65)

Result: Match Drawn

Overnight: SSGC (first innings) 127-4 in 41 overs

Toss: SSGC

Umpires: Ahsan Raza & Qaiser Waheed
Referee: Iqbal Sheikh

Scorer: Arif Abdul Majeed


GROUP - II

*** UBL GROUND NO 1, KARACHI

KRL (first innings) 244-10 in 84 overs (Usman Arshad 121, 12x4s, 216 balls, Muhammad Abbas 38, 5x4s, 103 balls, Luqman Butt 32, 4x4s, 1x6, 83 balls, Shoaib Ahmed 20, 4x4s, 44 balls, Atif Jabbar 5-43, Muhammad Irfan 3-27)

(2nd innings) 184-10 in 63.3 overs (Muhammad Yasin 7x4s, 131 balls, Shoaib Ahmed 29, 5x4s, 35 balls, Nauman Ali 20n 3x4s, 27 balls, Atif Jabbar 5-50, Kamran Ghulam 2-40)

NBP (first innings) 287-10 in 85.1 overs (Rameez Raja 102, 14x4s, 205 balls, Naveed Sarwar 83, 10x4s, 163 balls, Qaiser Abbas 20, 2x4s, 30 balls, Ahmed Bashir 4-56, Muhammad Abbas 3-47, Nauman Ali 3-84)

(2nd innings) 115-10 in 47.4 overs (Hamza Paracha 24, 2x4s, 38 balls, Kamran Ghulam 22, 4x4s, 26 balls, Muhammad Abbas 7-52, Ahmed Bashir 3-5)

Result: KRL won by 26 runs

Overnight: NBP (2nd innings) 54-4 in 17.2 overs

Toss: KRL

Umpires: Riazuddin & Ghaffar Kazmi
Referee: Iftikhar Ahmed

Scorer: Wasim Abbas
 
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Just to highlight the issue now that Mohammad Asif has bowled WAPDA into the final:

Mohammad Asif domestic First Class average pre-ban = 23.80

Mohammad Asif domestic First Class average 2016-17 = 21.66
 
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Junaids said:
So Mohammad Asif has just single-handedly bowled WAPDA into the QEA Final!

SSGC was 298-7 this morning, needing 55 more runs to eliminate Asif and reach the Final.

Asif then bowled a spell of 3-0-3-3 to ensure that WAPDA took first innings points and win the match.

They said he had to break down the door to be selected.

Now he has!
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what will tabish khan and others do if a criminal is selected ahead of them just playing one third of the fc season
 
DRsohail said:
what will tabish khan and others do if a criminal is selected ahead of them just playing one third of the fc season
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Before I begin I must admit that I am a huge Asif fan only for TESTS

Now... I have been reading the threads for a while and no matter what the outcome or update the same argument gets repeated over and over again with a slight variation each time. Yes, a 6 year gap means that one should be critical of nostalgia and not admit a player based on past record, however Asif was special, the little season he did play (due to injury and The overban by PCB) he did exhibit that he hasn't lost the plot. Not sure what the reasons behind Tabish Khan's non selection is, even though he has been bowling well for a few seasons but his induction into the team has nothing to do with Asif, Tabish and others should be competing for a spot with the current crop of selected players not with someone who is trying to knock the door alongside them
Regardless of his crime and how deeply he was involved he served the punishment, is now doing the hard work in domestic (A process which is outlined by PCB) and if he is good enough and can add value then he should be added on cricketing merits, should he do something shady or out of line again PCB can put a life ban on him i.e Salim Malik or Kaneria and he can then become an afterthought, but for now he is still in the setup and much like any other performer should be allowed a fair chance to play at the highest level should it be warranted
Also, I will go ahead and say that I dislike Butt, and at this time our opening (TEST Matches) seems to be a bit settled, however if our opening was in crisis and Butt's was knocking at the door with beastly performances than I guess the same opportunity should be allowed to him as Amir and hopefully Asif
 
Junaids said:
So Mohammad Asif has just single-handedly bowled WAPDA into the QEA Final!

SSGC was 298-7 this morning, needing 55 more runs to eliminate Asif and reach the Final.

Asif then bowled a spell of 3-0-3-3 to ensure that WAPDA took first innings points and win the match.

They said he had to break down the door to be selected.

Now he has!
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Bravo!! What a bowler!! Thats the match winner we need!!!
 
Junaids said:
So Mohammad Asif has just single-handedly bowled WAPDA into the QEA Final!

SSGC was 298-7 this morning, needing 55 more runs to eliminate Asif and reach the Final.

Asif then bowled a spell of 3-0-3-3 to ensure that WAPDA took first innings points and win the match.

They said he had to break down the door to be selected.

Now he has!
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I honestly don't think that dismissing a wicket-keeper batsman #7 and two tail-enders in Zia-ul-Haq and Ahmed Jamal will be the difference maker for Asif.

However, Asif certainly played his part today, couldn't have done much more so props to him for that.
 
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khiska said:
Before I begin I must admit that I am a huge Asif fan only for TESTS

Now... I have been reading the threads for a while and no matter what the outcome or update the same argument gets repeated over and over again with a slight variation each time. Yes, a 6 year gap means that one should be critical of nostalgia and not admit a player based on past record, however Asif was special, the little season he did play (due to injury and The overban by PCB) he did exhibit that he hasn't lost the plot. Not sure what the reasons behind Tabish Khan's non selection is, even though he has been bowling well for a few seasons but his induction into the team has nothing to do with Asif, Tabish and others should be competing for a spot with the current crop of selected players not with someone who is trying to knock the door alongside them
Regardless of his crime and how deeply he was involved he served the punishment, is now doing the hard work in domestic (A process which is outlined by PCB) and if he is good enough and can add value then he should be added on cricketing merits, should he do something shady or out of line again PCB can put a life ban on him i.e Salim Malik or Kaneria and he can then become an afterthought, but for now he is still in the setup and much like any other performer should be allowed a fair chance to play at the highest level should it be warranted
Also, I will go ahead and say that I dislike Butt, and at this time our opening (TEST Matches) seems to be a bit settled, however if our opening was in crisis and Butt's was knocking at the door with beastly performances than I guess the same opportunity should be allowed to him as Amir and hopefully Asif
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y would pcb take a chance with a criminal minded person which has degraded us many times.
 
Junaids said:
Is 14-9-13-0 an ordinary day?

I'm pretty sure that Mickey Arthur would jump for joy to have that at the opposite end from Mohammad Amir.
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That's an easy job for Asif. The key for him is to get lots and lots of overs in and then get movement etc again which will then result into wickets as well.

Asif is so good that keeping it tight is ordinary for him, the usual routine.
 
Junaids said:
So Mohammad Asif has just single-handedly bowled WAPDA into the QEA Final!

SSGC was 298-7 this morning, needing 55 more runs to eliminate Asif and reach the Final.

Asif then bowled a spell of 3-0-3-3 to ensure that WAPDA took first innings points and win the match.

They said he had to break down the door to be selected.

Now he has!
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Fully agreed, these 3 wickets are much more valuable then the truckloads of wickets other bowlers have taken.
 
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