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Question for Wahab Riaz: Why did you drop Mohammad Haris for the T20I series against New Zealand?

Wahab made a mistake when he rested haris for this tour. Now team management is making a mistake again by keeping usama in the team as well as azam khan. These 2 should be dropped for the next games. Our top 4 are good considering rizwan finds some form as well. lower middle order is where is real problem is. Solve it asap.
 
Looks like the selection committee and team management couldn't find another opening combo. Moreover it didn't look like they were actively looking as Farhan and Fakhar played middle order and Haseeb as an opener.

Hopefully sanity prevails and Mohammad Harris is backed as one of the openers if Fakhar and Farhan are not being.
 
Haris is gonna be back in the next series and I don't think that azam khan will find his spot for the next series of Pakistan.
 
He doesn't deserve anything!!

He hasn't played a single game in the recent FC games.

He just wants to remain a hack.
 
Just another hype job like asif ali

As the Afghan series and Asian games showed when the main players were rested these bench players got badly beaten unless you count beating Hong Kong a success.
you are as smart as our selectors
 
He doesn't deserve anything!!

He hasn't played a single game in the recent FC games.

He just wants to remain a hack.
can you imagine Azam Khan hitting even one boundary of a bowler like Anrich Nortje or Mark Wood in Australia? Mohammad HAris did that as a 21 yr old who played without fear in the t20 WC who cares about the Asian games but I guess you are just as smart as our genius selectors
 
can you imagine Azam Khan hitting even one boundary of a bowler like Anrich Nortje or Mark Wood in Australia? Mohammad HAris did that as a 21 yr old who played without fear in the t20 WC who cares about the Asian games but I guess you are just as smart as our genius selectors
Have I denied his talent?

I'm frustrated that he isn't developing his game and temperament.

I guess you are just as smart as those sitting in management at developing talent.
 
Have I denied his talent?

I'm frustrated that he isn't developing his game and temperament.

I guess you are just as smart as those sitting in management at developing talent.
wow what a great comeback almost as good as Azam Khan's comeback, lol khush raho bhai Azam Khan will get a 100 more chances and 40 more 'comebacks' . Mohammad Haris ki development nai hui at age 21 we should definitely drop him for this WC and the coming ones because Asian games showcased his real talent instead of smashing 150kph plus bowlers in Australia as a 20 yr old on the biggest stage
 
I was surprised to see Haris not being selected for the T20 series.

He should be a regular in the T20 team.
 
wow what a great comeback almost as good as Azam Khan's comeback, lol khush raho bhai Azam Khan will get a 100 more chances and 40 more 'comebacks' . Mohammad Haris ki development nai hui at age 21 we should definitely drop him for this WC and the coming ones because Asian games showcased his real talent instead of smashing 150kph plus bowlers in Australia as a 20 yr old on the biggest stage
I don't care about Azam Khan or no Azam Khan.

How else is Haris going to develop without playing FC games?

You want him to play ODI's and Tests?

Even Babar Azam played FC games, so why is Haris exempt?
 
I don't care about Azam Khan or no Azam Khan.

How else is Haris going to develop without playing FC games?

You want him to play ODI's and Tests?

Even Babar Azam played FC games, so why is Haris exempt?
not saying he should be in the ODI team or Test team, but he proved himself on the highest stage in a WC at the age of 20 dont care about his stats he has shown with his bravery and skill that his ceiling is higher so he needs to be given a longer run in the T20 side.
 
Haris is only preferred for the white ball format and he should be playing every white ball game of he is in your future plans. Dropping him or resting him for some other mediocre guys is beyond understanding.
 
Haris was dropped to make way for Azam Khan. It is all politics I am afraid.
It was shocking tbh. Haris was your number 1 choice to replace riz incase he is injured etc, but out of the blue moon, Azam and Haseebullah get selected over him in the name of giving rest to a guy (Haris) who has not even played that much cricket that ne needed to rest. LOL
 
It was shocking tbh. Haris was your number 1 choice to replace riz incase he is injured etc, but out of the blue moon, Azam and Haseebullah get selected over him in the name of giving rest to a guy (Haris) who has not even played that much cricket that ne needed to rest. LOL
yea and if he needed to rest then why let him play BPL, he didnt end up playing because of PCB typical garbage administration skills anyway
 
not saying he should be in the ODI team or Test team, but he proved himself on the highest stage in a WC at the age of 20 dont care about his stats he has shown with his bravery and skill that his ceiling is higher so he needs to be given a longer run in the T20 side.
He is never going to develop by playing T20's.

It is absolutely criminal to think by playing T20's he is going to learn how to construct an innings and bat for longer.
 
He is never going to develop by playing T20's.

It is absolutely criminal to think by playing T20's he is going to learn how to construct an innings and bat for longer.
agreed, but he should be in T20 international team for now, better than our fat 'power hitters'. Poor culture set by players like Shadab Khan who end up playing all formats and on a T20 diet throughout the year
 
Haris is a gem player. PCB needs to give him more chances to groom himsef as a good wk batter.
 
Where is he?
Well we know he was actively prevented from playing BPL.

He isn’t playing the Sindh Premier League.

So it looks like he’s at home waiting for the PSL to begin.

This is supposed to be one of our brightest talents. I hope he harnesses this energy and absolutely smashes it in February.
 
Well we know he was actively prevented from playing BPL.

He isn’t playing the Sindh Premier League.

So it looks like he’s at home waiting for the PSL to begin.

This is supposed to be one of our brightest talents. I hope he harnesses this energy and absolutely smashes it in February.
I reckon it's a good time to polish the game. He seriously can and needs a massive PSL season
 
Mohammad Haris dropped again for the home T20 series against NZ. He didn't even make it into the reserves this time. Good decision?
 
Mohd Haris should consider switching over to another PSL Franchise to get a shot at the opening role.
 
Mohd Haris should consider switching over to another PSL Franchise to get a shot at the opening role.
Zalmi should trade him for Irfan Khan Niazi

Babar loves a young player who can bat anywhere but open and can field
 
Mohd Haris should consider switching over to another PSL Franchise to get a shot at the opening role.
Honestly whether Mo Haris switches over to another PSL franchise or not, one thing is clear - he needs to work on his batting.
Talented player that hasn't quite found his footing just yet hence needs a bit of time to develop in the domestic circuit.
 
Honestly whether Mo Haris switches over to another PSL franchise or not, one thing is clear - he needs to work on his batting.
Talented player that hasn't quite found his footing just yet hence needs a bit of time to develop in the domestic circuit.
I disagree about him being talented. I don't mind him being in the squad as a lower order hitter for T20 ONLY, but he hasn't been the ideal no 7 I wanted him to be.

He's a hack, doesn't really have good footwork or proper cricketing shots and is absolutely atrocious against spin.( And this is coming from a guy who advocated him to be captain at one point lol)

Saim ayub despite failing ik is talented cause deapite being even younger then me, he has all the shots in the book including some unorthodox shots, he has good fundamentals on footwork and technique, but due to lack of experience, shot selection and timing aren't their as of yet.

Haris just rushes in to attack randomly lol, what I give haris credit for is that he is a brave lad, who plays for the crest on his chest, is willing to bat at any order and has an attacking mindset that pur players need, something which is absent in rizwan (Sr of 110 in PSL) especially
 
Muhammad haris gets dropped on the basis of psl performance but then Fakhar gets selected


Fakhar Zaman in PSL9:8 inns 157 runs, 115.4 SR
 
Muhammad haris gets dropped on the basis of psl performance but then Fakhar gets selected


Fakhar Zaman in PSL9:8 inns 157 runs, 115.4 SR
Tbh, Fakhar Zaman should not be compared to Haris. Zaman has played enough clutch knocks for Pakistan in big tournaments where you can disregard his current form because that's just the kind of player that he is.

But I agree, its double standards if that is the excuse you are using.

He should have just said that Azam Khan performed better than Haris, which is why we selected him.
 
I disagree about him being talented. I don't mind him being in the squad as a lower order hitter for T20 ONLY, but he hasn't been the ideal no 7 I wanted him to be.

He's a hack, doesn't really have good footwork or proper cricketing shots and is absolutely atrocious against spin.( And this is coming from a guy who advocated him to be captain at one point lol)

Saim ayub despite failing ik is talented cause deapite being even younger then me, he has all the shots in the book including some unorthodox shots, he has good fundamentals on footwork and technique, but due to lack of experience, shot selection and timing aren't their as of yet.

Haris just rushes in to attack randomly lol, what I give haris credit for is that he is a brave lad, who plays for the crest on his chest, is willing to bat at any order and has an attacking mindset that pur players need, something which is absent in rizwan (Sr of 110 in PSL) especially
Lol can you provide any justification for why MH is not talented? Don’t give me the usual verbal diarrhoea, I want some proper facts.

He has every shot in the book and better timing than anyone in this team except Saim. You could say he lacks temper, tries too much or is impatient. …but you’re making him sound like an Awais Zia who closes his eyes and tries to muscle the ball. Anyone who’s seen him play can see that the guy has impeccable timing, explosive shots and a grocery list of shots to choose from.

THAT is talent baby.
 
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Deserving - Drop him under the label of rest.
No recent performances - Drop him under the label of no performances.

Clever play by Wahab
 
Most mistreated player.

Gave good T20 WC performances, had the highest strike rate of any batsmen in last year’s PSL, was the only Pakistani batsmen in the entire world who was top 50 in T20 SR.

Then randomly he is “rested” for the last New Zealand series by Wahab even though he is 22 and only plays one format. He flys to Bangladesh to play BPL and once he arrives PCB denies his NOC and makes him return. And now after one average PSL, despite playing good in the eliminator, he is fully dropped.

Ridiculous. Doesn’t make much sense either. He’s in PZ, is good friends with Babar, and has a free run at #3. Does Wahab dislike him for some reason?
 
Lol can you provide any justification for why MH is not talented? Don’t give me the usual verbal diarrhoea, I want some proper facts.

He has every shot in the book and better timing than anyone in this team except Saim. You could say he lacks temper, tries too much or is impatient. …but you’re making him sound like an Awais Zia type tullaybaaz who closes his eyes and tries to muscle the ball. Anyone who’s seen him play can see that the guy has impeccable timing, explosive shots and a grocery list of shots to choose from.

THAT is talent baby.
You want proper facts, yet you give me an opinion as to what you think is good? Lol.

I can give facts but you won't accept any, for me to provide that I literally have to send links upon links of highlights + tine stamps and then explain what's fundamentally wrong with his technique, Footwork, timing and balance.

Which again you won't accept or cooperate with me lol
 
Has to be one of the biggest downfalls in recent years.

Going from winning matches for your country at the biggest stage to now being the 4th choice WK.

I won’t be surprised if Rohail Nazir goes ahead of him as well. Clearly Wahab has a vendetta against Harris after all the years of being bullied in the Zalmi nets.

Azam Khan
Mohammad Rizwan
Haseebullah
Mohammad Harris

Since Azam can’t run, he’ll be the number 1 wicket keeper.
 
You want proper facts, yet you give me an opinion as to what you think is good? Lol.

I can give facts but you won't accept any, for me to provide that I literally have to send links upon links of highlights + tine stamps and then explain what's fundamentally wrong with his technique, Footwork, timing and balance.

Which again you won't accept or cooperate with me lol
What’s wrong with his technique and timing? He times the ball better than anyone in the dugout outside of Saim. This is evident from his effortless strokes.

As far as his balance is concerned, you can see that from his head movement and stability in the crease. He doesn’t hop around and his head is stable throughout his backswing and release.

Please enlighten me with some facts.
 
What’s wrong with his technique and timing? He times the ball better than anyone in the dugout outside of Saim. This is evident from his effortless strokes.

As far as his balance is concerned, you can see that from his head movement and stability in the crease. He doesn’t hop around and his head is stable throughout his backswing and release.

Please enlighten me with some facts.

^^ time stamp 2:20, Literally his feet are still, zero footwork and he wildly swings at it like a maniac getting out, this shot needed to be cover drived or straight drived lol, it was a front foot shot but he has zero footwork.


^^ Time stamp 4:54, Again same issue, non existent footwork. Even before where he struck at 4 and a 6, his footwork is non existent, unless the ball is pitched waist high, he can't play.

He has zero front foot and backfoot shots.

I can even show you more highlights from psl.

But obviously you'll still cry and whine.
 
I know it's not a popular decision on this forum regarding Mohammad Haris, however I think it's a good decision to drop him.

He hasn't unfortunately improved his game, his wicket-keeping is deteriorating due to not being a regular keeper, technique having faults due to a unhealthy obsession with ramp shots & not developing his power.

He has lost his place & rightfully so. It's just disappointing to see a lack of options in the keeper department.
 

^^ time stamp 2:20, Literally his feet are still, zero footwork and he wildly swings at it like a maniac getting out, this shot needed to be cover drived or straight drived lol, it was a front foot shot but he has zero footwork.


^^ Time stamp 4:54, Again same issue, non existent footwork. Even before where he struck at 4 and a 6, his footwork is non existent, unless the ball is pitched waist high, he can't play.

He has zero front foot and backfoot shots.

I can even show you more highlights from psl.

But obviously you'll still cry and whine.
I completely disagree.

If you’re going to cherry pick time stamps of any batsman in the world where they get out, you can conclude that they have poor footwork and technique.

Just watch the completely videos yourself and see his shots where he actually hit sixes. The ease with which he pulls fast bowlers for sixes in the first video is an example of his exquisite gift of timing.

And footwork isn’t just about jumping out of crease, it’s about being able to move your feet to create room to negotiate a difficult delivery or to be able to go on the back foot to play over the keepers head - this is clearly something he has demonstrated throughout his career.
 
I completely disagree.

If you’re going to cherry pick time stamps of any batsman in the world where they get out, you can conclude that they have poor footwork and technique.

Just watch the completely videos yourself and see his shots where he actually hit sixes. The ease with which he pulls fast bowlers for sixes in the first video is an example of his exquisite gift of timing.

And footwork isn’t just about jumping out of crease, it’s about being able to move your feet to create room to negotiate a difficult delivery or to be able to go on the back foot to play over the keepers head - this is clearly something he has demonstrated throughout his career.
I literally stated that the 4 and 6 he played before had zero footwork.

He has 3 shots in total, One is coming forward to attack, one is staying still and hitting lofted strokes from waist high and one is an unorthodox stroke where he goes in the backfoot to loft over the keepers head where he's gotten out by a nearby fielder catching it lol.

This man is going to be a walking wicket against spin. And against pace, any bowler pitching it low with line and length will get him out
 
I literally stated that the 4 and 6 he played before had zero footwork.

He has 3 shots in total, One is coming forward to attack, one is staying still and hitting lofted strokes from waist high and one is an unorthodox stroke where he goes in the backfoot to loft over the keepers head where he's gotten out by a nearby fielder catching it lol.

This man is going to be a walking wicket against spin. And against pace, any bowler pitching it low with line and length will get him out

Have a look at 0:35 - neither was this an unorthodox shot, not was it any of of the three shots you mentioned. Look at the stability, look at the BACK swing and that bat swing. This is a clear indication of his range of shots that go from unorthodox to orthodox.

Haris, with his scoops and innovative shots behind the keeper, is the last player that you can blame for having poor footwork. There is no world where you can execute those shots without footwork.
 

Have a look at 0:35 - neither was this an unorthodox shot, not was it any of of the three shots you mentioned. Look at the stability, look at the BACK swing and that bat swing. This is a clear indication of his range of shots that go from unorthodox to orthodox.

Haris, with his scoops and innovative shots behind the keeper, is the last player that you can blame for having poor footwork. There is no world where you can execute those shots without footwork.
Literally straight after that 0:35 time stamp he edges it and it goes over the keepers head 😂😂.

Not helping your case bro.
 

Have a look at 0:35 - neither was this an unorthodox shot, not was it any of of the three shots you mentioned. Look at the stability, look at the BACK swing and that bat swing. This is a clear indication of his range of shots that go from unorthodox to orthodox.

Haris, with his scoops and innovative shots behind the keeper, is the last player that you can blame for having poor footwork. There is no world where you can execute those shots without footwork.
He needs to perform. You cannot average less than Azam Khan (which he did in the PSL) and expect to make the team.

Haris’ game has fallen off a cliff since that T20WC.
 
Where will you play him ? And ahead of whom?

His strength clearly lies in hitting pace so he has to play either in Top 3 or at 6/7.

He can only replace Rizwan and that would be a really bold move .
 
Most mistreated player.

Gave good T20 WC performances, had the highest strike rate of any batsmen in last year’s PSL, was the only Pakistani batsmen in the entire world who was top 50 in T20 SR.

Then randomly he is “rested” for the last New Zealand series by Wahab even though he is 22 and only plays one format. He flys to Bangladesh to play BPL and once he arrives PCB denies his NOC and makes him return. And now after one average PSL, despite playing good in the eliminator, he is fully dropped.

Ridiculous. Doesn’t make much sense either. He’s in PZ, is good friends with Babar, and has a free run at #3. Does Wahab dislike him for some reason?
It's evident now that Wahab doesn't want him in the side.
 
I completely disagree.

If you’re going to cherry pick time stamps of any batsman in the world where they get out, you can conclude that they have poor footwork and technique.

Just watch the completely videos yourself and see his shots where he actually hit sixes. The ease with which he pulls fast bowlers for sixes in the first video is an example of his exquisite gift of timing.

And footwork isn’t just about jumping out of crease, it’s about being able to move your feet to create room to negotiate a difficult delivery or to be able to go on the back foot to play over the keepers head - this is clearly something he has demonstrated throughout his career.
Haris relies on brute force and pace on he has no footwork.
 
bro half of the squad is already filled up with openers why do you want another one?
babar azam, muhammad rizwan, usman khan, saim ayub, fakhar zaman,

where do you want harris to play 6 down?
 
All this talk of high strike rate and you don't even let the most fearless batter in Pakistan anywhere near Pakistani team.

Sums up the mentality and plans of this era of PCB and the management.
 
Haris made 1 mistake and that is, he underperformed in PSL 9 else he should have been there before that. He was so-called rested last time and his rest is yet to finish I guess. Wahab should answer this.
 
Haris made 1 mistake and that is, he underperformed in PSL 9 else he should have been there before that. He was so-called rested last time and his rest is yet to finish I guess. Wahab should answer this.
Wahab definitely has something against Haris.

However, needs to be noted that Haris got dropped from Zalmi aswell during this PSL season for lack of performances. He is not doing himself any favors by being rubbish.
 
Salman Butt speaking on his Youtube channel:

“Azam Khan, Saim Ayub and Iftikhar Ahmed are all explosive players. Shadab Khan is also a solid hitter and Imad Wasim is the same. Usman Khan also performed in PSL so where would you place Mohammad Haris? Haris has had plenty of opportunities and maybe he needs to ask himself about whether he has done justice to his chances and talent because he is extremely talented. His look is attractive because of the way he can strike the ball,”

“Sometimes he plays shots which were not required at that time of the match and this was not just restricted to T20I cricket because he also did that while playing for Pakistan A. When somebody does this time and again, you have to ask if he is ready and mentally present in the ground. These things can create doubt in the selectors’ minds.

“I’m sure, with his talent, everyone wants him to play, including me. But he needs to show more presence of mind, show more practicality while batting and in simple terms only do what is necessary.”
 
Salman Butt speaking on his Youtube channel:

“Azam Khan, Saim Ayub and Iftikhar Ahmed are all explosive players. Shadab Khan is also a solid hitter and Imad Wasim is the same. Usman Khan also performed in PSL so where would you place Mohammad Haris? Haris has had plenty of opportunities and maybe he needs to ask himself about whether he has done justice to his chances and talent because he is extremely talented. His look is attractive because of the way he can strike the ball,”

“Sometimes he plays shots which were not required at that time of the match and this was not just restricted to T20I cricket because he also did that while playing for Pakistan A. When somebody does this time and again, you have to ask if he is ready and mentally present in the ground. These things can create doubt in the selectors’ minds.

“I’m sure, with his talent, everyone wants him to play, including me. But he needs to show more presence of mind, show more practicality while batting and in simple terms only do what is necessary.”
Exactly my point, and everyone screaming for him randomly right now will do well to realize Haris needs to work hard on his game and come back a better player. His recent performances have been downright garbage. Saim is an example of an insane talent that made his way into the team with his performances so far.

What's stopping Haris from doing the same thing?
 
Wahab acting like Mo. Harris took his Mrs to Space Mountain. Why else would he jeopardise Pakistan’s World Cup campaign, he should be charged with treason.
 
It is a complete joke to suggest that Haris is a better T20 batsman than Rizwan at this point, but you can expect such fumbles from SR and intent merchants and one track mind fans.

Haris has the potential to be a valuable white ball player for Pakistan and there is no doubt he is good to watch, but he needs to learn the art of scoring runs first before he can be of any use.

Your SR and intent only have value if you are backing them up with some runs.

He averages 7 in ODIs and 14 in T20Is. These numbers will embarrass a tail-ender. What should we do with his “intent”?

And those who do bhangra over his SR need to realize that his SR in international cricket is poor.

He averages below 30 in all domestic formats, he is clearly a poor batsman and needs a lot of work to become an asset for Pakistan cricket. If he doesn’t improve, he will end up as the second coming of Asif Ali.
 
It is a complete joke to suggest that Haris is a better T20 batsman than Rizwan at this point, but you can expect such fumbles from SR and intent merchants and one track mind fans.

Haris has the potential to be a valuable white ball player for Pakistan and there is no doubt he is good to watch, but he needs to learn the art of scoring runs first before he can be of any use.

Your SR and intent only have value if you are backing them up with some runs.

He averages 7 in ODIs and 14 in T20Is. These numbers will embarrass a tail-ender. What should we do with his “intent”?

And those who do bhangra over his SR need to realize that his SR in international cricket is poor.

He averages below 30 in all domestic formats, he is clearly a poor batsman and needs a lot of work to become an asset for Pakistan cricket. If he doesn’t improve, he will end up as the second coming of Asif Ali.

What were his numbers and Riswan’s in the last World T20 🤔
 
It is a complete joke to suggest that Haris is a better T20 batsman than Rizwan at this point, but you can expect such fumbles from SR and intent merchants and one track mind fans.

Haris has the potential to be a valuable white ball player for Pakistan and there is no doubt he is good to watch, but he needs to learn the art of scoring runs first before he can be of any use.

Your SR and intent only have value if you are backing them up with some runs.

He averages 7 in ODIs and 14 in T20Is. These numbers will embarrass a tail-ender. What should we do with his “intent”?

And those who do bhangra over his SR need to realize that his SR in international cricket is poor.

He averages below 30 in all domestic formats, he is clearly a poor batsman and needs a lot of work to become an asset for Pakistan cricket. If he doesn’t improve, he will end up as the second coming of Asif Ali.
I agree he isn't better than Riz at this point.

But he deserves to be in the squad as a backup keeper over Azam and Usman too.
 
It is a complete joke to suggest that Haris is a better T20 batsman than Rizwan at this point, but you can expect such fumbles from SR and intent merchants and one track mind fans.

Haris has the potential to be a valuable white ball player for Pakistan and there is no doubt he is good to watch, but he needs to learn the art of scoring runs first before he can be of any use.

Your SR and intent only have value if you are backing them up with some runs.

He averages 7 in ODIs and 14 in T20Is. These numbers will embarrass a tail-ender. What should we do with his “intent”?

And those who do bhangra over his SR need to realize that his SR in international cricket is poor.

He averages below 30 in all domestic formats, he is clearly a poor batsman and needs a lot of work to become an asset for Pakistan cricket. If he doesn’t improve, he will end up as the second coming of Asif Ali.
It is a complete joke to suggest that Haris is a better T20 batsman than Rizwan at this point, but you can expect such fumbles from SR and intent merchants and one track mind fans.

Haris has the potential to be a valuable white ball player for Pakistan and there is no doubt he is good to watch, but he needs to learn the art of scoring runs first before he can be of any use.

Your SR and intent only have value if you are backing them up with some runs.

He averages 7 in ODIs and 14 in T20Is. These numbers will embarrass a tail-ender. What should we do with his “intent”?

And those who do bhangra over his SR need to realize that his SR in international cricket is poor.

He averages below 30 in all domestic formats, he is clearly a poor batsman and needs a lot of work to become an asset for Pakistan cricket. If he doesn’t improve, he will end up as the second coming of Asif Ali.
What I don’t understand is why we can give an almost infinite rope to literal street level players like Khushdil Shah who have never looked close to being international quality but discard Haris after a handful of failures when he has proven several times that he is international quality?

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Haris is the second best young batsman in Pakistan in LOIs and no one else is even close. To replace him with Azam Khan, Niazi or whoever else is an absolute joke.
 
What I don’t understand is why we can give an almost infinite rope to literal street level players like Khushdil Shah who have never looked close to being international quality but discard Haris after a handful of failures when he has proven several times that he is international quality?

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Haris is the second best young batsman in Pakistan in LOIs and no one else is even close. To replace him with Azam Khan, Niazi or whoever else is an absolute joke.
Because Khushdil shah is a Misbah buddy while misbah was coach and selector

While haris isn't on wahab's radar.
 
It is a complete joke to suggest that Haris is a better T20 batsman than Rizwan at this point, but you can expect such fumbles from SR and intent merchants and one track mind fans.

Haris has the potential to be a valuable white ball player for Pakistan and there is no doubt he is good to watch, but he needs to learn the art of scoring runs first before he can be of any use.

Your SR and intent only have value if you are backing them up with some runs.

He averages 7 in ODIs and 14 in T20Is. These numbers will embarrass a tail-ender. What should we do with his “intent”?

And those who do bhangra over his SR need to realize that his SR in international cricket is poor.

He averages below 30 in all domestic formats, he is clearly a poor batsman and needs a lot of work to become an asset for Pakistan cricket. If he doesn’t improve, he will end up as the second coming of Asif Ali.
Tbh, Rizwan isn't a t20 batsmen. He's a joke of a t20 bat.

Look at his stats in the middle order. Their terrible lol.

Misbah has a habit of giving respites to his buddies in the same way babar has the exact same habit.

Haris has a small sample pool, it's not relevant at this stage.
 
Bro you overestimate Misbah’s influence over Pakistan cricket…
How am I overestimating the influence of

A) A cheif Selector

B) A coach
???

How am I underestimating? If Misbah had zero influence during his selection and coaching stint then on what basis were

1) Ahmed shehzad and Umar Akmal brought back into a t20 side that was ranked no 1 completly out of the freaking blue? Deapite not even being in the side? They had average psl and domestic? Infact kamran akmal a dude who was old and burnt into a crisp had a superior psl stint.

2) Muhammad Irfan a 37 year old retired dude in a nursery home brought back to bowl against Australia at their strongest in their home den?

3) Khisdil shah and Chacha made mainstays in t20 despite never even being on the pcb radar? No one had even heard of chacha before his debut, he was a literal nobody in psl? Atleast khsudil had some domestic stats to back him.

4) Rizwan randomly gets selected after 4 years of failing in the middle order and then gets to be an opener? When he never merited or did anything for that position besides open in a useless domestic league that not a single soul gave a crap about?

Infact under misbah we flunked put of our no 1 rank so hard.

So no I'm not underestimating his influence when he had the privilege to be made chief selector and coach while prestigious coaches who were around d way longer then misbah like mickey never had that luxury.
 
How am I overestimating the influence of

A) A cheif Selector

B) A coach
???

How am I underestimating? If Misbah had zero influence during his selection and coaching stint then on what basis were

1) Ahmed shehzad and Umar Akmal brought back into a t20 side that was ranked no 1 completly out of the freaking blue? Deapite not even being in the side? They had average psl and domestic? Infact kamran akmal a dude who was old and burnt into a crisp had a superior psl stint.

2) Muhammad Irfan a 37 year old retired dude in a nursery home brought back to bowl against Australia at their strongest in their home den?

3) Khisdil shah and Chacha made mainstays in t20 despite never even being on the pcb radar? No one had even heard of chacha before his debut, he was a literal nobody in psl? Atleast khsudil had some domestic stats to back him.

4) Rizwan randomly gets selected after 4 years of failing in the middle order and then gets to be an opener? When he never merited or did anything for that position besides open in a useless domestic league that not a single soul gave a crap about?

Infact under misbah we flunked put of our no 1 rank so hard.

So no I'm not underestimating his influence when he had the privilege to be made chief selector and coach while prestigious coaches who were around d way longer then misbah like mickey never had that luxury.
Khushdil was a part of the team even after Misbah’s removal.
 
Khushdil was a part of the team even after Misbah’s removal.
That's true, So are rizwan and babar opening, infact so is chacha despite having a terrible avg and a horrific sr for someone who bats in the middle and in his entire long 4 year career has only 4 notable innings, 2 of them in odi against c string NZ and one against Nepal, and one in t20 against SA. Otherwise he's failed horrifically in every single encounter.

Misbah departing doesn't mean that the people who he appointed automatically depart as well. But it doesn't change the fact that none of these clowns did anything to even warrant a comeback, especially when the t20 side was already ranked no 1 and flhashforward 4 years we are now at no 7.

Only person you can advocate is Kushdil shah and rizwan as sarfi lack of form meant rizzu would probs enter the fold, and kushdil shah had proven himself in domestic lower order.

Where on earth did Irfan, Akmal and shehzad come from? In 2020?
 
Tbh, Rizwan isn't a t20 batsmen. He's a joke of a t20 bat.

Look at his stats in the middle order. Their terrible lol.

Misbah has a habit of giving respites to his buddies in the same way babar has the exact same habit.

Haris has a small sample pool, it's not relevant at this stage.
Rizwan struggled in the middle-order but he averages 56 @ 130 as opener in the format. These are exceptional numbers well and truly beyond Haris.

The difference between Rizwan and Haris is very simple. Rizwan knows how to score runs and Haris does not. As simple as that. At this point in time, it is a complete joke to compare the two because Haris has not done anything to merit a comparison, but he is a good 10 years younger and he can be better than Rizwan in a few years but he needs to learn to score runs first.
 
What I don’t understand is why we can give an almost infinite rope to literal street level players like Khushdil Shah who have never looked close to being international quality but discard Haris after a handful of failures when he has proven several times that he is international quality?

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Haris is the second best young batsman in Pakistan in LOIs and no one else is even close. To replace him with Azam Khan, Niazi or whoever else is an absolute joke.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Khushdil played 37 times for Pakistan which is more than he deserved, but Haris at this point in time does not deserve any chances either.

He has been pathetic in both international and domestic cricket and he is clearly not ready. He needs to learn the art of scoring runs first. If he is the second best young batsman in Pakistan in LOIs then Pakistan cricket is even more doomed than I think it is.
 
I agree he isn't better than Riz at this point.

But he deserves to be in the squad as a backup keeper over Azam and Usman too.
Usman completely outshone Haris in the PSL so he deserves to be selected ahead of him. Both Haris and Azam are equally poor with the bat, but yes I wouldn't mind him playing ahead of Azam because at least he is sharp in the field.
 
Babar Azam in a presser today shared following thoughts on Haris's absence from squad:

"I do agree Mohammad Haris didn't get proper opportunity the way he should have after the 2022 T20 World Cup. However, he did get opportunity in PSL but he didn't perform as per expectations. I am not saying he is a bad player. Everyone goes through a rough patch,” Babar said.

“Furthermore, he plays in the top-order and we already have a lot of players for top-order including me, Rizwan, Saim Ayub and Fakhar Zaman,”
 
Babar Azam in a presser today shared following thoughts on Haris's absence from squad:

"I do agree Mohammad Haris didn't get proper opportunity the way he should have after the 2022 T20 World Cup. However, he did get opportunity in PSL but he didn't perform as per expectations. I am not saying he is a bad player. Everyone goes through a rough patch,” Babar said.

“Furthermore, he plays in the top-order and we already have a lot of players for top-order including me, Rizwan, Saim Ayub and Fakhar Zaman,”
That's a good response from Babar. The players that Haris is competing against have all outperformed him, even Azam who I don't rate at all was better than him in the PSL. Rizwan is currently leagues above Haris and the only way that gap will close is through hard work and performances not moaning on social media or through his friends in the media.
 
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