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[Report] ICC approves the hybrid model for the Champions Trophy 2025 following an agreement between the PCB and BCCI [Post Updated #4739]

Aang_The_last_airbender said:
I simply reminded India was host of Asia Cup 2018 which was wholly organised in UAE. No body whined or cried about it, it was stubborn reality of India-Pakistan relations. Pakistani posters seem to simply skip past this little thing. Have not received one response to any of my post talking about 2018 Asia Cup in threads running into thousands of posts and polls.

Come back with facts, when you have something without trying to project your own mindset onto mine. I am more than happy to talk facts.
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"The BCCI couldn’t procure relevant clearance from government security agencies to host Pakistan [for Asia Cup 2018]..."

The Indian government wouldn't let Pakistan come to play for the Asia Cup, it never got to the point of Pakistan rejecting it. The boards then got together and decided to move it to the UAE.
 
Aang_The_last_airbender said:
Bhai, are you blind .. or have u even read the posts in these forums or statements from PCB and Pakistani media? Don't create your own fake narratives.

India is being as graceful as Pakistan here. And after the dumb attempt to play political games with trophy tour, Pakistanis should tone down the volume on grace, morality and peace here. Hadd hoti hai hyporisy ki.

And look, all I shared was actual numbers from financial statements and you seemed to have got so hurt. In all these dumb posts, you have problem with one post that actually has facts. :salute

PS: In the thousands of posts, thanks for even under handed acknowledgment of 2018 Asia Cup. You are the first even if straightaway you segwayed into what about mode?
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what exactly did india and bcci achieve by objecting to trophy tour and coercing icc to change the route? icc approved it earlier.. Pakistan did not issue trophy tour venues without icc approval. but later India objected and had it changed. what was the end game? do you think it makes a difference? world will suddenly start referring to Pak Administered Kashmir as POk?
or may be End game was BCCI wanted to show its power ? or Jay Shah being son of minister wanted to show public , look we can teach pakistan a lesson?

Unless India gather some balls and start a war with Pakistan to take back this side of Kashmir , everything else is Gimmick
 
Sorry but I laughed so hard.
 

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kingusama92 said:
"The BCCI couldn’t procure relevant clearance from government security agencies to host Pakistan [for Asia Cup 2018]..."

The Indian government wouldn't let Pakistan come to play for the Asia Cup, it never got to the point of Pakistan rejecting it. The boards then got together and decided to move it to the UAE.
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Najam Sethi claimed he forced BCCI to shift Asia Cup.

Ofcourse he lied.

www.dawn.com

Asia Cup 2018 moved from India to UAE on Pakistan's request

Meeting also decides that ACC Emerging Teams Cup 2018 will be co-hosted by Pakistan and Sri Lanka this year.
www.dawn.com
 
kingusama92 said:
100%.

Sethi is just a politician at heart. Not much value in his words one way or the other.
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Not sure next year's Asia Cup will be held in India either. Government may not give permission.

Expect PCB to claim they forced bcci.
 
rpant_gabba said:
I think this doctor will be fine. He has 7 other patients, who will push one patient out of the way to get treated
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That's where there delusion starts.

Where are the 7 patients and their boss going to get paid from???.

Is the doctor willing to foot the bill for every patient every time???.

Bearing the patient number will increase in other scenarios.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
The PCB may refuse to play india all together which will cancel the event anyway.
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Pls wake us up when that happens. It is easy for you to say as there is nothing at stake for you but PCB will never refuse to play India as they know where money comes from and they need to run the board. The funny thing is, most Indians also want PCB to take a stance and stop playing against India. However, they will never do it.
 
Rajdeep said:
Pls wake us up when that happens. It is easy for you to say as there is nothing at stake for you but PCB will never refuse to play India as they know where money comes from and they need to run the board. The funny thing is, most Indians also want PCB to take a stance and stop playing against India. However, they will never do it.
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You forget that Pakistan had no home games for over a decade and still had success on the pitch and off it.

Playing the likes of Eng and Aus keeps things flowing.

The fact is if Pakistan refuses to play india in any ICC event then cricket isn't sustainable.

The Pakistan v india match keeps world cricket afloat without that money the other boards cant function which by default means the end of cricket and the ICC.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
You forget that Pakistan had no home games for over a decade and still had success on the pitch and off it.

Playing the likes of Eng and Aus keeps things flowing.

The fact is if Pakistan refuses to play india in any ICC event then cricket isn't sustainable.

The Pakistan v india match keeps world cricket afloat without that money the other boards cant function which by default means the end of cricket and the ICC.
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Pakistanis and their delusions.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
You forget that Pakistan had no home games for over a decade and still had success on the pitch and off it.

Playing the likes of Eng and Aus keeps things flowing.

The fact is if Pakistan refuses to play india in any ICC event then cricket isn't sustainable.

The Pakistan v india match keeps world cricket afloat without that money the other boards cant function which by default means the end of cricket and the ICC.
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Just because you keep repeating it every post won't make it true. ICC tournaments are not successful just because of a solitary India vs Pakistan match. Tou are giving Pakistan far too much importance.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
You forget that Pakistan had no home games for over a decade and still had success on the pitch and off it.

Playing the likes of Eng and Aus keeps things flowing.

The fact is if Pakistan refuses to play india in any ICC event then cricket isn't sustainable.

The Pakistan v india match keeps world cricket afloat without that money the other boards cant function which by default means the end of cricket and the ICC.
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Yet you keep ignoring the fact of how successful IPL is where no Pakistani players feature.

Indian public wants to watch the Indian cricket team, Pakistan just doesn't matter to the revenue coming in.
 
ravisurya said:
Just because you keep repeating it every post won't make it true. ICC tournaments are not successful just because of a solitary India vs Pakistan match. Tou are giving Pakistan far too much importance.
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90 per cent of ICC revenues come from India and not Pakistan.

PCB struggles to sell rights of its Home series.

And you have pakistanis thumping their chests.
 
cricketjoshila said:
90 per cent of ICC revenues come from India and not Pakistan.

PCB struggles to sell rights of its Home series.

And you have pakistanis thumping their chests.
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Are you saying cricket would stop if there is no India? LOL.

The reason why ICC bootlicks India is because of greed.
 
ravisurya said:
Yet you keep ignoring the fact of how successful IPL is where no Pakistani players feature.

Indian public wants to watch the Indian cricket team, Pakistan just doesn't matter to the revenue coming in.
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Indian home series rights sells for $8mn a match.
 
sweep_shot said:
Are you saying cricket would stop if there is no India? LOL.

The reason why ICC bootlicks India is because of greed.
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ICC needs to make sure boards are not going bankrupt. People employed in cricket get a good salary. All bills are paid.
 
sweep_shot said:
Are you saying cricket would stop if there is no India? LOL.

The reason why ICC bootlicks India is because of greed.
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delusional Indians

when India wasn't the power house cricket was still a successful sport, boards were bringing in revenue and everyone had a cut of the pie.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
You forget that Pakistan had no home games for over a decade and still had success on the pitch and off it.

Playing the likes of Eng and Aus keeps things flowing.

The fact is if Pakistan refuses to play india in any ICC event then cricket isn't sustainable.

The Pakistan v india match keeps world cricket afloat without that money the other boards cant function which by default means the end of cricket and the ICC.
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Pakistan v India match is indeed a big one but you are wrong in assuming that international cricket will cease to exist if that game doesn't happen. Any loss that ICC will make, BCCI can easily compensate them. The biggest loser will be PCB as they receive the 4th largest chunk from ICC due to that game.

My personal opinion is we must not pick and choose when to play against Pakistan. If we are playing them in ICC events, play them everywhere including bilateral or don't play at all. However if the later happens, the loss will be only for PCB and other smaller boards.
 
emranabbas said:
delusional Indians

when India wasn't the power house cricket was still a successful sport, boards were bringing in revenue and everyone had a cut of the pie.
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Lol. When India wasn't the financial power house of cricket, cricketers didn't make a lot of money.

ICC itself made little money.
 
Mohsin Naqvi in a presser today answered following questions:

Mohsin Naqvi initially briefed on construction work of different stadiums:

The whole PCB team is monitoring the construction work on stadiums besides I also pay a visit here every second or third day. Additionally, all our officials are present here, in Karachi and also in Pindi to monitor world there. Secondly, I want to update the whole world about stadium construction pace through you guys. We have made great progress in the construction work of the stadiums compared with the situation two or three months ago. FWO is working at a great pace and thus we are already ahead of time in finishing these projects. And God willing, we shall achieve our target of organizing the Champions Trophy in Pakistan.

Q: Did you write any letter to ICC regarding the champions trophy affair and what was the response of ICC to it?

Yes, we wrote a letter to ICC and we are still waiting for their response. Currently, we are only interacting with ICC and are eagerly waiting for their response.

Q: Are you looking forward to exert extra pressure on India (BCCI) through ICC?

I always believe that sports and politics are two separate affairs and no country needs to bring politics into the game of sports. And I still hope for the good outcomes.

Q: Jay Shah assuming charge as ICC chairman on 1st December so will this result in exertion of extra pressure on PCB?

I don't think anybody could give us a tough time because every member nation has some basic rights. And things like that can't occur and I am reiterating this that I am still hopeful that Champions Trophy will happen in Pakistan.

Q: BCCI organized World Cup 2023 trophy tour exhibitions in disputed territory of Ladakh but ICC didn't take any action but to the contrary it made objections to PCB's organization of same tours for Champions Trophy in Muzzarabad, Gilgit etc, how would you respond?

I think ICC needs to think about its credibility itself as it is a global body for the game of cricket. Also our CT trophy tour has been rescheduled so far but no cancellation of it has been made yet.

Q: Any updates on white ball coach?

Yes, we have made temporary arrangement, Aqib Javed has been requested to fill in this spot for a period of 3 months until the conclusion of Champions Trophy 2025. We didn't appoint a full time coach as there are only three months left in the CT 2025 and like before we don't want to appoint someone in haste. So we have requested Aqib Javed to work as an interim white ball head coach for the team being although we have other plans for him too in the future.

Again it is a temporary arrangement and in next 10-15 days we will initiate the process to appoint a permanent white ball coach after thorough probing.

Q: Opinion of other boards on organization of CT in Pakistan and issue with India?

All the teams that have qualified for the champions trophy are willing to travel to Pakistan so if India has an issue regarding it then BCCI should talk directly with PCB in case of any reservations regarding the Champions Trophy in Pakistan.

Q: Any B plan if India doesn't participate like calling some other team in their place?

You guys need to be optimistic as God willing all teams will participate in the CT event in Pakistan.
 
sweep_shot said:
Are you saying cricket would stop if there is no India? LOL.

The reason why ICC bootlicks India is because of greed.
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Where did he even say international cricket will cease to exist? On the contrary it's the Pakistani claiming exactly that if India-Pakistan match doesn't happen.

All he said was 90% of the revenue. Omes from India, which is a fact.

Now, tell me who is delusional?
 
Interesting comments

" I am reiterating this that I am still hopeful that Champions Trophy will happen in Pakistan."

Hopeful of full tournament or hybrid?
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Q: Did you write any letter to ICC regarding the champions trophy affair and what was the response of ICC to it?

Yes, we wrote a letter to ICC and we are still waiting for their response. Currently, we are only interacting with ICC and are eagerly waiting for their response.
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So doing a trophy tour in disputed region of PoK fully knowing it will irk BCCI, was not a political move?

:inti
 
Vikram1989 said:
Interesting comments

" I am reiterating this that I am still hopeful that Champions Trophy will happen in Pakistan."

Hopeful of full tournament or hybrid?
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Naqvi tone is change . from we will not accept the hybrid models to we are hopeful of full tournament in pakistan .

He is already know that it's either hybrid model or Entire champion trophy outside Pakistan with or without Pakistan.
:kp
 
Devadwal said:
Naqvi tone is change . from we will not accept the hybrid models to we are hopeful of full tournament in pakistan .

He is already know that it's either hybrid model or Entire champion trophy outside Pakistan with or without Pakistan.
:kp
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Yeah complete tone change as soon as the financial matters came in to picture. I see no questions from journalists too.At this rate in 10 days hybrid model and schedule will be out
 
For some reason I’m still hopeful that some sort of arrangement will be made to accommodate Indian matches in Pakistan.

Hoping Nawaz can do his diplomacy magic with Modi and work out a solution. This is the only way and the last option.

Let’s see.
 
I just hope the BCCI doesn't pressure the ICC to move the tournament to a neutral venue. It is pakistan's turn to host and it is only right that host it. It is up to the ICC on how they manage the financial loss in case India doesn't participate.
 
Just go ahead with the hybrid model.

- Put India and Pakistan in different groups
- India play all their games on neutral venue
- Pakistan play all their games in Pakistan
- 1 Semifinal in Pakistan.
- 1 Semifinal in Dubai
- Final will be played in Pakistan whether India qualifies or not..

The best India will only travel to Pakistan for 1 game.

This above model should be applied to all ICC events hosted by India also.
 
Giroux28 said:
Just go ahead with the hybrid model.

- Put India and Pakistan in different groups
- India play all their games on neutral venue
- Pakistan play all their games in Pakistan
- 1 Semifinal in Pakistan.
- 1 Semifinal in Dubai
- Final will be played in Pakistan whether India qualifies or not..

The best India will only travel to Pakistan for 1 game.

This above model should be applied to all ICC events hosted by India also.
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Agreed. This is only possible way forward.

Worst case, India forfeits the final if it gets that far. Not a big deal. It's only a Champions Trophy anyway.
 
Devadwal said:
Naqvi tone is change . from we will not accept the hybrid models to we are hopeful of full tournament in pakistan .

He is already know that it's either hybrid model or Entire champion trophy outside Pakistan with or without Pakistan.
:kp
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Vikram1989 said:
Yeah complete tone change as soon as the financial matters came in to picture. I see no questions from journalists too.At this rate in 10 days hybrid model and schedule will be out
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I can't hear the tone is there a play button in the post I can't see.
 
Red-Indian said:
Agreed. This is only possible way forward.

Worst case, India forfeits the final if it gets that far. Not a big deal. It's only a Champions Trophy anyway.
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as usual you missed the taqqiya part becos of your WKK leanings

<This above model should be applied to all ICC events hosted by India also.>

It sis difficult to understand why you chase this mirage of cordiall relations with pakistan while Pakistan (those in charge) has shown that they will screw india at every opportunity they get
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
That's where there delusion starts.

Where are the 7 patients and their boss going to get paid from???.

Is the doctor willing to foot the bill for every patient every time???.

Bearing the patient number will increase in other scenarios.
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sure. international cricket depends on a country which can't get $20M for its broadcast rights.
 
rpant_gabba said:
as usual you missed the taqqiya part becos of your WKK leanings

<This above model should be applied to all ICC events hosted by India also.>

It sis difficult to understand why you chase this mirage of cordiall relations with pakistan while Pakistan (those in charge) has shown that they will screw india at every opportunity they get
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Not sure what you mean. I have no real expectation of cordial relations with Pakistan any time soon. I had a little hope this tournament could be used as an icebreaker but obviously it's not happening.

On the other hand, unlike you, I have no desire to see world cricket burn down to assert India's superiority. It's obvious we call the shots and don't want to travel to Pakistan and are uncertain we want to allow Pakistan to travel to India.

The only solution then is separate groups in all ICC tournaments hosted in either country so we avoid playing each other.

It's a pity since I enjoy the edge to India-Pakistan games and the fact that we usually end up beating them but if the hostility is so high, there's no other option.
 
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Red-Indian said:
Not sure what you mean. I have no real expectation of cordial relations with Pakistan any time soon. I had a little hope this tournament could be used as an icebreaker but obviously it's not happening.

On the other hand, unlike you, I have no desire to see world cricket burn down to assert India's superiority. It's obvious we call the shots and don't want to travel to Pakistan and are uncertain we want to allow Pakistan to travel to India.

The only solution then is separate groups in all ICC tournaments hosted in either country so we avoid playing each other.

It's a pity since I enjoy the edge to India-Pakistan games and the fact that we usually end up beating the pants off them but if the hostility is so high, there's no other option.
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Aah ... you sound like an intellectual.
Hang on, do you think my comment will be removed to please a certain section ... lol.
...I hope not Saj?
 
Looks like the PCB and Mohsin Naqvi have agreed behind the scenes to the Hybrid model. This show of bravado is just for domestic consumption and face saving for time being. The PCB knows that the BCCI can snatch the tournament from Pakistan in one stroke and the ICC, the other member boards will do nothing.
 
Savak said:
Looks like the PCB and Mohsin Naqvi have agreed behind the scenes to the Hybrid model. This show of bravado is just for domestic consumption and face saving for time being. The PCB knows that the BCCI can snatch the tournament from Pakistan in one stroke and the ICC, the other member boards will do nothing.
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Are you sure.

www.dawn.com

‘Our stance is clear’: PCB chief adamant on holding Champions Trophy 2025 in Pakistan

"If India has any concerns, they should come and talk to us," Mohsin Naqvi says.
www.dawn.com
 
ravisurya said:
Yet you keep ignoring the fact of how successful IPL is where no Pakistani players feature.

Indian public wants to watch the Indian cricket team, Pakistan just doesn't matter to the revenue coming in.
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Why is your delusion focussed on a domestic ipl that features overseas stars.

This is International cricket :broad .
 
ravisurya said:
Just because you keep repeating it every post won't make it true. ICC tournaments are not successful just because of a solitary India vs Pakistan match. Tou are giving Pakistan far too much importance.
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I would of thought the ECB chairman and other board members would know a tad more than an indian poster on PakPassion.

If your were right what's the delay for the ICC to make an announcement???.

The Pakistan v india match pays the ICC and other boards thats a fact.
 
Rajdeep said:
Pakistan v India match is indeed a big one but you are wrong in assuming that international cricket will cease to exist if that game doesn't happen. Any loss that ICC will make, BCCI can easily compensate them. The biggest loser will be PCB as they receive the 4th largest chunk from ICC due to that game.

My personal opinion is we must not pick and choose when to play against Pakistan. If we are playing them in ICC events, play them everywhere including bilateral or don't play at all. However if the later happens, the loss will be only for PCB and other smaller boards.
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That will need to include pay outs to all the other cricket boards for every ICC tournament and a decrease in broadcast revenue.

Would the indian board be willing to pay out every tournament.

I very much doubt it.

Its not a feasible business model.

I agree :100: with your last point.
 
ravisurya said:
Just because you keep repeating it every post won't make it true. ICC tournaments are not successful just because of a solitary India vs Pakistan match. Tou are giving Pakistan far too much importance.
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What planet are you on?

After the 2007 WC debacle (Pak and I dis eliminated first round), the ICC made sure Pakistan and India face each other at least once for the Benjamins.

You have zero idea. I bet you followed cricket since 2011.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
I would of thought the ECB chairman and other board members would know a tad more than an indian poster on PakPassion.

If your were right what's the delay for the ICC to make an announcement???.

The Pakistan v india match pays the ICC and other boards thats a fact.
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Again you are posting lies. ECB chairman or any other board never spoke about India vs Pak match, ECB chairman only spoke about how without India a tournament would not be feasible.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
Why is your delusion focussed on a domestic ipl that features overseas stars.

This is International cricket :broad .
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The financial pull of the IPL shows how little Pakistan crickets brings to the table financially. Btw a lot for posters on this forum were chest thumping about how IPL would fail without Pakistani cricketers very similar to how some are harping about Internation cricket ceasing to exist without a solitary India vs Pakistan match.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
I would of thought the ECB chairman and other board members would know a tad more than an indian poster on PakPassion.

If your were right what's the delay for the ICC to make an announcement???.

The Pakistan v india match pays the ICC and other boards thats a fact.
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The delay by ICC is because India is not willing to travel and they have to accommodate India any other team would have been replaces by the next ranked team. BTW what's stopping PCB from trying to ask ICC to replace India?
 
Technics 1210 said:
What planet are you on?

After the 2007 WC debacle (Pak and I dis eliminated first round), the ICC made sure Pakistan and India face each other at least once for the Benjamins.

You have zero idea. I bet you followed cricket since 2011.
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So just because they have been in the same group, you have cone to the conclusion that International cricket will cease to exist due to absence of a solitary game?
 
ravisurya said:
Again you are posting lies. ECB chairman or any other board never spoke about India vs Pak match, ECB chairman only spoke about how without India a tournament would not be feasible.
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He actually said without India OR Pakistan. Which is conveniently being overlooked.
 
ravisurya said:
So just because they have been in the same group, you have cone to the conclusion that International cricket will cease to exist due to absence of a solitary game?
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So that's a yes then.

Don't change the subject now.

Bottom line Pakistan vs India is the biggest money earner, it is the most important match in any tournament barring the final, and I didn't come to any conclusion other than you started following cricket in 2011.

Cricket does not exist because of India. Remember this.
 
Red-Indian said:
Not sure what you mean. I
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"This above model should be applied to all ICC events hosted by India also."

He means all the time icc events should be co hosted by india but not alone.

He means ind and pak should play in different groups.so where exactly ur sense of excitement comes for watching a match against pak? It's only in semis or finals.


You tell me now. for ur little excitement (?) and little probability of ind vs pak game in a tournament, india have to be co host for ever.i know u read all and happy to go ahead as per Ur communist style(to appease u know whom)
 
ravisurya said:
Again you are posting lies. ECB chairman or any other board never spoke about India vs Pak match, ECB chairman only spoke about how without India a tournament would not be feasible.
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All the lies and delusions truly belong to pro indian board posters like you.

England Cricket Board [ECB] chairman Richard Gould said about the scheduling conflict: "If you play the Champions Trophy without India, or Pakistan, the broadcast rights aren't there, and we need to protect them."

www.skysports.com

Champions Trophy 2025: India and Pakistan dispute over tournament unresolved after ICC meeting

2025 ICC Champions Trophy is scheduled to take place in Pakistan from February 19-March 9, live on Sky Sports; India have not played in Pakistan since 2008 and are understood to be unwilling to travel for the 50-over tournament
www.skysports.com www.skysports.com
 
kingusama92 said:
He actually said without India OR Pakistan. Which is conveniently being overlooked.
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Let me approach from a data perspective.

BCCI and IPL contracts indicate that cricket is lucrative w/o Pakistan

Latest PCB contract indicates Pakistan cricket cannot sustain itself

The claim is ICC tournament are not viable w/o Pakistan. Let it put to test. CT w/o India and next ICC tournament w/o pak. Let the data speak for itself
 
ICC has to be the most toothless body in the world. It's great to see Pakistan putting up a fight instead of rolling over like in Asia Cup.
I want to see an end to this once it for all.. either India gets sanctioned and we chart our own future path without ICC or Pakistan is out of CT. No middle path. And please no hybrid model. CT must happen in Pakistan without India.
I want to see and stress test the scenario of World Tournament without India to see where things are at.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
All the lies and delusions truly belong to pro indian board posters like you.

England Cricket Board [ECB] chairman Richard Gould said about the scheduling conflict: "If you play the Champions Trophy without India, or Pakistan, the broadcast rights aren't there, and we need to protect them."

www.skysports.com

Champions Trophy 2025: India and Pakistan dispute over tournament unresolved after ICC meeting

2025 ICC Champions Trophy is scheduled to take place in Pakistan from February 19-March 9, live on Sky Sports; India have not played in Pakistan since 2008 and are understood to be unwilling to travel for the 50-over tournament
www.skysports.com www.skysports.com
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End of discussion.

Even BCCI realise they will miss a massive pay day, why else does BCCI play with Pakistan in ICC tournaments, but no bilateral series? The massive WC/CT payday vs Pakistan.
 
PCB Could Reach Out To CAS To Find Resolution For India's Non-Participation In CT 2025: Report

According to a report by the Indo-Asian News Service (IANS), the PCB is seeking an explanation from the BCCI regarding their stance on not travelling to Pakistan. India’s perspective has been consistent that they would only make the trip should the Indian government approve their participation.

The PCB who are seeking an explanation of India’s stance could consider escalating the issue to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) should they not come to a resolution as the PCB maintains its stance on hosting the entire tournament in Pakistan and also rejecting alternate solutions like a Hybrid Model, which was used in the 2023 Asia Cup.


www.news18.com

PCB Could Reach Out To CAS To Find Resolution For India's Non-Participation In CT 2025: Report - News18

The Pakistan Cricket Board seeks an explanation from India regarding their unwillingness to travel to Pakistan and could escalate the matter to the CAS.
www.news18.com www.news18.com
 
Cricket Warrior said:
PCB Could Reach Out To CAS To Find Resolution For India's Non-Participation In CT 2025: Report

According to a report by the Indo-Asian News Service (IANS), the PCB is seeking an explanation from the BCCI regarding their stance on not travelling to Pakistan. India’s perspective has been consistent that they would only make the trip should the Indian government approve their participation.

The PCB who are seeking an explanation of India’s stance could consider escalating the issue to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) should they not come to a resolution as the PCB maintains its stance on hosting the entire tournament in Pakistan and also rejecting alternate solutions like a Hybrid Model, which was used in the 2023 Asia Cup.


www.news18.com

PCB Could Reach Out To CAS To Find Resolution For India's Non-Participation In CT 2025: Report - News18

The Pakistan Cricket Board seeks an explanation from India regarding their unwillingness to travel to Pakistan and could escalate the matter to the CAS.
www.news18.com www.news18.com
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Is it even under CAS jurisdiction?
 
Cricket Warrior said:
PCB Could Reach Out To CAS To Find Resolution For India's Non-Participation In CT 2025: Report

According to a report by the Indo-Asian News Service (IANS), the PCB is seeking an explanation from the BCCI regarding their stance on not travelling to Pakistan. India’s perspective has been consistent that they would only make the trip should the Indian government approve their participation.

The PCB who are seeking an explanation of India’s stance could consider escalating the issue to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) should they not come to a resolution as the PCB maintains its stance on hosting the entire tournament in Pakistan and also rejecting alternate solutions like a Hybrid Model, which was used in the 2023 Asia Cup.


www.news18.com

PCB Could Reach Out To CAS To Find Resolution For India's Non-Participation In CT 2025: Report - News18

The Pakistan Cricket Board seeks an explanation from India regarding their unwillingness to travel to Pakistan and could escalate the matter to the CAS.
www.news18.com www.news18.com
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  • CAS jurisdiction
    CAS does not have jurisdiction over all sports, including the ICC, the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA), and the International Basketball Federation (FIBA).


PCB should take it Hague, ICJ
 
Technics 1210 said:
So that's a yes then.

Don't change the subject now.

Bottom line Pakistan vs India is the biggest money earner, it is the most important match in any tournament barring the final, and I didn't come to any conclusion other than you started following cricket in 2011.

Cricket does not exist because of India. Remember this.
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No one said cricket does not exist because of India, on the contrary your ilk are claiming International cricket will cease to exist due to lack of a solitary India vs Pakistan match which supposedly is some trump card for negotiations for Pakistan.
 
I think most Indian fans want ICC and PCB to continue without India but they don't seem to want to do it.

Infact the Pakistani posters here exhibiting all the fake bravado, till a couple of weeks back it was how India will be forced to come to Pakistan and now to how Pakistan is crucial for existence of International cricket, should be making their cricket board to try and convince ICC to replace India with the next best ranked team which is Sri Lanka.

It would solve a lot of problems.
 
Technics 1210 said:
So that's a yes then.

Don't change the subject now.

Bottom line Pakistan vs India is the biggest money earner, it is the most important match in any tournament barring the final, and I didn't come to any conclusion other than you started following cricket in 2011.

Cricket does not exist because of India. Remember this.
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Show us one post where any Indian poster has claimed Cricket exists because of India?
 
rpant_gabba said:
Let me approach from a data perspective.

BCCI and IPL contracts indicate that cricket is lucrative w/o Pakistan

Latest PCB contract indicates Pakistan cricket cannot sustain itself

The claim is ICC tournament are not viable w/o Pakistan. Let it put to test. CT w/o India and next ICC tournament w/o pak. Let the data speak for itself
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There's no doubt about what you're saying and I'm right there with you. Anyone that isn't is being silly.

BCCI's revenue generation + value add is far ahead of the PCB. Miles and miles ahead that you can't even see Pakistan in the rear view mirror.

However, the ECB chairman's point is likely about the CT in a vacuum. They likely have revenue projections for this (let's be honest) second-tier ICC tournament. Those revenue projections likely show the value of an India-Pakistan game is going to be high because the Indian audience is not going to turn up to watch the same way as it would for a WC game. This is simply a reality. The prestige of the CT is not the same as a WC or even a T20I WC.

Those rating numbers India was putting up vs Australia, NZ, or South Africa were due to them being on an undefeated streak + beating Pakistan + the WC prestige. The momentum was ripe for those ratings skyrocketing.

You remove those things and the ICC will know that India-Pakistan game is a must to have a somewhat stable and successful CT. Imagine India doesn't do well in the CT getting eliminated early and there's no India-Pakistan game, this tournament will fall apart and the broadcasters will also use it as leverage to show there's risk in hosting without those games and they will want to negotiate a 20-30% lesser deal in the future.

This is where the issue lies and likely what the ECB chairman meant.
 
Itachi said:
After Lahore yatra and kargil, it shows that pakistan can not be trusted in subject of India.
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Real snowflake behaviour. Indians don’t seem to have that thing, what is it again?? B…courage
 
Am really wondering who is the clown handling pcb affairs who suggested to go ahead with cas with out knowing whether cricket comes under cas or not.i think as india appealed to Cas for phogat's Olympics issue ,somebody must have simply pointed out.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
PCB Could Reach Out To CAS To Find Resolution For India's Non-Participation In CT 2025: Report

According to a report by the Indo-Asian News Service (IANS), the PCB is seeking an explanation from the BCCI regarding their stance on not travelling to Pakistan. India’s perspective has been consistent that they would only make the trip should the Indian government approve their participation.

The PCB who are seeking an explanation of India’s stance could consider escalating the issue to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) should they not come to a resolution as the PCB maintains its stance on hosting the entire tournament in Pakistan and also rejecting alternate solutions like a Hybrid Model, which was used in the 2023 Asia Cup.


www.news18.com

PCB Could Reach Out To CAS To Find Resolution For India's Non-Participation In CT 2025: Report - News18

The Pakistan Cricket Board seeks an explanation from India regarding their unwillingness to travel to Pakistan and could escalate the matter to the CAS.
www.news18.com www.news18.com
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According to a report by the Indo-Asian News Service (IANS) 😂
 
Champions Trophy will most likely not be held in Pakistan at all. There will be some bomb blasts somewhere and it will be used as a pretext to move the tournament away. Pakistan will eventually accede to the request and will play India at the neutral venue.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
That will need to include pay outs to all the other cricket boards for every ICC tournament and a decrease in broadcast revenue.

Would the indian board be willing to pay out every tournament.

I very much doubt it.

Its not a feasible business model.

I agree :100: with your last point.
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No they won't. They will have a choice between siding with Pakistan and losing min 80% of the funds or siding with india and losing max 50% of the funds. What would you do?
 
TheSultan said:
Real snowflake behaviour. Indians don’t seem to have that thing, what is it again?? B…courage
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When there's betrayal on such a level, there's no chance of any trust building.

If you call it snowflake, then be may it. But Indians know their pain.
 
HalBass9 said:
Morally and for cricket most would want to go against India but I recently found out Hindutva atheist do not have morals.
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Indian ineterests before world cricket. Lets find out who world cricket can live w/o India or Pakistan?
 
Vikram1989 said:
"This above model should be applied to all ICC events hosted by India also."

He means all the time icc events should be co hosted by india but not alone.

He means ind and pak should play in different groups.so where exactly ur sense of excitement comes for watching a match against pak? It's only in semis or finals.


You tell me now. for ur little excitement (?) and little probability of ind vs pak game in a tournament, india have to be co host for ever.i know u read all and happy to go ahead as per Ur communist style(to appease u know whom)
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Still have no idea what you're on about.

All I'm saying is that for any tournament hosted in India or Pakistan, the other team will get to play it's games in a third country - probably Sri Lanka or UAE. The teams need to be in different groups to avoid the home team having to play it's game outside. Pakistan rarely makes it out of the group stage so not many games outside India. Little bit more sacrifice for Pakistan since India usually makes it to the semis and often the finals.

I'm fully aware it'll drastically reduce the probability of India Pakistan games except in tournaments held outside the subcontinent. A loss but one we'll all have to live with.
 
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