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[Report] ICC approves the hybrid model for the Champions Trophy 2025 following an agreement between the PCB and BCCI [Post Updated #4739]

Bhaijaan said:
It’s disappointing if you support terrorist activities against our country.
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I do not support terrorist activities against any country. Be it indians sponsoring terrorists in Pakistan or Pakistan doing the same. Both things are wrong.
 
Legal action?

Hahahaha.

Do we really need to repeat the embarrassment of last time? Where upon taking “legal action” PCB instead was asked to pay a few million dollars.

That time it was incompetent Sethi.

Don’t expect any different output this time if the board is stupid enough to repeat the same blunder.

- No legal action will help
- No threats or boycotting IND matches will help
- Only hope is Nawaz activating diplomatic channels directly with Modi and come to a solution.

Nothing else will make this CT happen normally.
 
Rajdeep said:
Indians love to use terminologies...like they also call EPL. No one in UK calls it an EPL but just premier league.

However, that doesn't mean they are looking for some validation etc. Its just the way we are
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Fair, thats also a good point. I have observed this as well.

But forget about abbreviations, you do understand my point about importance of international cricket right? Of course i feel validation when we beat the Aussies, english or indians. Thats the core fun of the game.
 
TheSultan said:
I do not support terrorist activities against any country. Be it indians sponsoring terrorists in Pakistan or Pakistan doing the same. Both things are wrong.
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Pakistanis literally committed 26/11 terrorist act.

Which Bharatiya committed a terrorist act in Pakistan
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
im not sure 600 Million $ is correct figure. you are just dividing pool money with number of tournaments. but every tournament does nt have same value
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No. ICC had given that figure. Its annual revenue is estimated at $600mn. Please google it.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Pakistanis literally committed 26/11 terrorist act.

Which Bharatiya committed a terrorist act in Pakistan
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You’re quoting the wrong post - it wasn’t my post. Correct it and respond to the appropriate post
 
Slim said:
We literally have your navy officer under arrest in Pakistan.

Do you condemn the terrorism sponsorship of India in Pakistan?
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What’s the charge? How many people died in Pakistan.

Pakistani terrorists came to Bharat and killed a thousand people during 26/11 terrorist act for which your government has taken ZERO action against the culprits because they’re likely complicit.

How do you defend your country for 26/11, please explain. I am listening. We will talk about Pulwama and Parliament attacks and Kashmir terrorism later but firstly only 26/11. Why do you Pakistanis hate our country so much that you send terrorists to kill thousands of our innocent people like that?
 
offstump said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1855603999644254329
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Pakistanis are living under a massive delusion that the big ticket ICC match with Bharat is 50% their contribution.

BCCI literally built a billion dollar venture in IPL without any Pakistani player and once there is no cricket with Pakistan, matches against top tier teams will replace this.

Yes the cultural spectable of Bharat vs Pakistan is unbeatable anywhere in the world. But if it’s about just money , our matches with any of the top teams in ICC events will continue to bring huge revenues for ICC.

This myth and delusion of Pakistanis will soon be broken hopefully we all want PCB to boycott us. Please do that.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
That's not for you to decide. If a person is religious they have every right to express that. That certainly doesn't give bigoted fans the right to abuse him over his beliefs.
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fans have every right to express their religion as much as the player.

praise lord Ram is bigoted chant? how? is allah hu akbar a bigoted chant?
 
Pakistan will have to swallow its pride and accept the Hybrid model. They are heavily dependent on ICC handouts, they already have a very poor international and domestic broadcast deal which wont give them more than $10 million for the next 2-3 years, their PSL broadcast deal is also paltry at $12 million per year for the next 2 years and they have to surrender 95% of that to the Franchises.

If IPL can thrive without Pakistani players, why can't International cricket survive without Pakistan?

This is what BCCI wants for Pakistan to unwisely throws their toys out of the pram without thinking about the long term repercussions.

The PCB will get something via the Hybrid model. It is a better option than not getting anything at all.

Pakistan needs to come to terms with where the country of India and the Indian economy is at vis a vis Pakistan. The political realities b/w the two countries cannot be ignored. Play your cards right for now and hopefully things will change for the better in the next 10-20 years.
 
The PCB needs to focus on strengthening the Pakistani team and ensure they are in the top of the rankings in all formats. Just look at the massive hype and respect the Pakistani team has earned beating England 2-1 in Pakistan and beating Australia in Australia 2-1 in the ODI series.

When you have a strong performing, marketable team, you automatically get backers in international cricket and you bring something to the table.
 
cricketjoshila said:
No. ICC had given that figure. Its annual revenue is estimated at $600mn. Please google it.
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annual revenue is from pool that includes all icc tournaments from 2023-2027 cycle including women tournaments. if we only exclude CT 2025 , its proportionate revenue will be much lesser. CWC with 50 plus matches and CT 2025 with 15 plus matches wont have equal amount of revenue. CT is a tournament that will bring least amount of $ for icc in list of Men’s Tournaments
 
Savak said:
Pakistan will have to swallow its pride and accept the Hybrid model. They are heavily dependent on ICC handouts, they already have a very poor international and domestic broadcast deal which wont give them more than $10 million for the next 2-3 years, their PSL broadcast deal is also paltry at $12 million per year for the next 2 years and they have to surrender 95% of that to the Franchises.

If IPL can thrive without Pakistani players, why can't International cricket survive without Pakistan?

This is what BCCI wants for Pakistan to unwisely throws their toys out of the pram without thinking about the long term repercussions.

The PCB will get something via the Hybrid model. It is a better option than not getting anything at all.

Pakistan needs to come to terms with where the country of India and the Indian economy is at vis a vis Pakistan. The political realities b/w the two countries cannot be ignored. Play your cards right for now and hopefully things will change for the better in the next 10-20 years.
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To be honest, if even 25% Pakistanis were as sensible and realistic about life as you, our countries would be friends and business would have been thriving between our countries.

It’s only either your dictatorship or your brain dead countrymen who have no awareness about national identity, reality of life and of world that the situation is so bad.
 
Bhaijaan said:
What’s the charge? How many people died in Pakistan.

Pakistani terrorists came to Bharat and killed a thousand people during 26/11 terrorist act for which your government has taken ZERO action against the culprits because they’re likely complicit.

How do you defend your country for 26/11, please explain. I am listening. We will talk about Pulwama and Parliament attacks and Kashmir terrorism later but firstly only 26/11. Why do you Pakistanis hate our country so much that you send terrorists to kill thousands of our innocent people like that?
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I have already condemned. Do you condemn the indian sponsorship of terrorism in Pakistan?
 
mominsaigol said:
This I agree with. An indian crowd should not attack anyone over religon, Nationality, Age, Gender, race or any other controversial irrespective of the person/team or anyone else playing in their home country.
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how is jai Shri Ram and attack on Rizwan or Islam?

Are you religious?

Is "allah hu akbar" attack on all other religions?
 
Slim said:
I have already condemned. Do you condemn the indian sponsorship of terrorism in Pakistan?
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Sponsorship what? Where is the evidence? Who are the Hindu Bharatiyas who were caught in Pakistan with guns and grenades committing terrorist acts like your Pakistani countrymen were caught red handed in our country during 26/11 for which your dictatorship refused to comply with our government. No action taken in more than a decade.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Sponsorship what? Where is the evidence? Who are the Hindu Bharatiyas who were caught in Pakistan with guns and grenades committing terrorist acts like your Pakistani countrymen were caught red handed in our country during 26/11 for which your dictatorship refused to comply with our government. No action taken in more than a decade.
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Kulbhushen says hi
 
We have given every opportunity to Pakistan to improve things. Vajpayee went to Pakistan with a peace deal, got backstabbed with Kargil war. Musharraf was invited and was offered a peace deal but we got backstabbed with 26/11. PM Modi went to Nawaz Shareef granddaughter wedding and got backstabbed with Pulwama terror attack.

Every time we offer peace, the dictatorship in Pakistan has backstabbed us.

You brought the situation to this point, not us. We sent our cricket team multiple times to Pakistan from 2004-2010
 
If i were in the PCB, i would negotiate extra compensation in exchange accepting the hybrid model i.e. the PCB should be compensated for the extra costs that will be incurred in implementing the hybrid model. This is an ICC event and if an ICC event is being disrupted to suit one team then it is only fair that the host nation is given some extra compensation for it.

Also if lets say India does not make the semi finals or finals then the semi final and final needs to be held in Pakistan.

Give and Take.

For PCB and Pakistan Cricket, it is more important for them to prove to the world that they can successfully host an ICC event, getting their grounds up to speed with international standards and to have a strong consistently performing team.
 
Bhaijaan said:
We have every opportunity to Pakistan to improve things. Vajpayee went to Pakistan with a peace deal, got backstabbed. Musharraf was invited and was offered a peace deal but we got backstabbed with 26/11. PM Modi went to Nawaz Shareef granddaughter wedding and got backstabbed with Pulwama terror attack.

Every time we offer peace, the dictatorship in Pakistan has backstabbed us.

You brought the situation to this point, not us. We sent our cricket team multiple times to Pakistan from 2004-2010
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Pakistan ne har dafa mamo bnaya aap ko, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
 
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Wasim Ghulam said:
Pcb spent about 42 Million USD on stadium upgrades for CT 2025. its documented. It would have been very easy for pcb to not go for expansive upgrades and offer that money to other boards as compensation of loss due to India’s exit. but things are not as simple as you put. BCCI would have subverted the attempt by trying to blackmail other boards to not accept any such proposal. because according to you its all about Cash for boards which isnt true. BCCI is playing politics and hiding behind government refusal excuse. BCCI with instructions from GOI does nt want any tournament to happen in Pakistan.Indians cant stand it
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The renovation money comes from ICC hosting fees that PCB will get. That amount is nearly $65mn.

So PCB cannot take money from ICC for hosting the tournament and then return the same money to other boards.

Before every ICC event host countries receive money from ICC to renovate venues. Happens to all hosts and not just PCB.

The loss ICC is looking at is couple of 100mn plus USD. If PCB can give that kind of money they can get the boards to play.

BCCI's power lies in money. If PCB can give money they can have the power.
 
Bhaijaan said:
We have given every opportunity to Pakistan to improve things. Vajpayee went to Pakistan with a peace deal, got backstabbed with Kargil war. Musharraf was invited and was offered a peace deal but we got backstabbed with 26/11. PM Modi went to Nawaz Shareef granddaughter wedding and got backstabbed with Pulwama terror attack.

Every time we offer peace, the dictatorship in Pakistan has backstabbed us.

You brought the situation to this point, not us. We sent our cricket team multiple times to Pakistan from 2004-2010
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Maybe you guys should also own up to certain things like why did your country conspire with the international establishment to overthrow a democratically elected government in Pakistan in 2022 to impose the Sharifs on Pakistan again?
 
cricketjoshila said:
The renovation money comes from ICC hosting fees that PCB will get. That amount is nearly $65mn.

So PCB cannot take money from ICC for hosting the tournament and then return the same money to other boards.

Before every ICC event host countries receive money from ICC to renovate venues. Happens to all hosts and not just PCB.

The loss ICC is looking at is couple of 100mn plus USD. If PCB can give that kind of money they can get the boards to play.

BCCI's power lies in money. If PCB can give money they can have the power.
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If you were the PCB, how do you think they should play their cards right in the present environment?
 
People of Pakistan who generally lack national pride or have any awareness about their identity in the context of this region want to play cricket and tennis and conveniently want to not talk about state sponsored terrorism from their dictatorship.

I am sorry to break your bubble, that’s not how the world works. At least not in 2024, thankfully.

Cricket maybe a big deal for a lot of people but in the grand scheme of things it’s a silly sport which cannot be given any priority when it’s about national interests.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Pakistanis are living under a massive delusion that the big ticket ICC match with Bharat is 50% their contribution.

BCCI literally built a billion dollar venture in IPL without any Pakistani player and once there is no cricket with Pakistan, matches against top tier teams will replace this.

Yes the cultural spectable of Bharat vs Pakistan is unbeatable anywhere in the world. But if it’s about just money , our matches with any of the top teams in ICC events will continue to bring huge revenues for ICC.

This myth and delusion of Pakistanis will soon be broken hopefully we all want PCB to boycott us. Please do that.
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You people will destroy cricket and be number 1 in a sport that only has a single team.
Bhaijaan said:
People of Pakistan who generally lack national pride or have any awareness about their identity in the context of this region want to play cricket and tennis and conveniently want to not talk about state sponsored terrorism from their dictatorship.

I am sorry to break your bubble, that’s not how the world works. At least not in 2024, thankfully.

Cricket maybe a big deal for a lot of people but in the grand scheme of things it’s a silly sport which cannot be given any priority when it’s about national interests.
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You are brainwashed by nonsensical nationalism, the lived experience is completely different to what you’re suggesting.

Indian and Pakistani immigrants and expats get along just fine just about everywhere in the world. If you had travelled outside of your bubble in whichever village in India you reside in, you’d see that.
 
Bhaijaan said:
People of Pakistan who generally lack national pride or have any awareness about their identity in the context of this region want to play cricket and tennis and conveniently want to not talk about state sponsored terrorism from their dictatorship.

I am sorry to break your bubble, that’s not how the world works. At least not in 2024, thankfully.

Cricket maybe a big deal for a lot of people but in the grand scheme of things it’s a silly sport which cannot be given any priority when it’s about national interests.
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Can you explain why it's acceptable to play the silly sport in your country, UAE, or Sri Lanka but not Pakistan? Where is the borders or national pride drawn for India in 2024?
 
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DeadlyVenom said:
Can you explain why it's acceptable to play the silly sport in your country, UAE, or Sri Lanka but not Pakistan? Where is the borders or national pride drawn for India in 2024?
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Our team remains the primary target of terrorists.
 
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Wasim Ghulam said:
annual revenue is from pool that includes all icc tournaments from 2023-2027 cycle including women tournaments. if we only exclude CT 2025 , its proportionate revenue will be much lesser. CWC with 50 plus matches and CT 2025 with 15 plus matches wont have equal amount of revenue. CT is a tournament that will bring least amount of $ for icc in list of Men’s Tournaments
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ICC in its revenue share paper of 2022 gave its annual revenue to be around $600mn.

Unlike BCCI which sells its rights on per match basis, ICC sells its rights as a entire package containing all the events during a particular period. The entire payment is on a annual basis.

The last ICC event in WI went overbudget by $20mn. Many had to resign because of that.

If India moves out of this event ICC members are looking at a financial blackhole.
 
cricketjoshila said:
The renovation money comes from ICC hosting fees that PCB will get. That amount is nearly $65mn.

So PCB cannot take money from ICC for hosting the tournament and then return the same money to other boards.

Before every ICC event host countries receive money from ICC to renovate venues. Happens to all hosts and not just PCB.

The loss ICC is looking at is couple of 100mn plus USD. If PCB can give that kind of money they can get the boards to play.

BCCI's power lies in money. If PCB can give money they can have the power.
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i have said this before and i will say this again that its not about money. BCCI will not accept any such attempt even if PCB brought in broadcast deal and sponsors to cover fot loss of revenue which is not 200 M $ Minus India.. a lot less.. BCCI will feel threatened and start lobbying against such proposal and other boards might still go with bcci. the money compensation solution given by Indian posters is not applicable due to pettiness of BCCI. they just dnt want any tournament in Pakistan. thats BCCI’s end game no matter how much pcb bent over its back in past to take dictates from BCCI which includes Pakistan touring for cwc due to fake assurances given by BCCI
 
cricketjoshila said:
ICC in its revenue share paper of 2022 gave its annual revenue to be around $600mn.

Unlike BCCI which sells its rights on per match basis, ICC sells its rights as a entire package containing all the events during a particular period. The entire payment is on a annual basis.

The last ICC event in WI went overbudget by $20mn. Many had to resign because of that.

If India moves out of this event ICC members are looking at a financial blackhole.
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whats revenue estimate for CT 2025 exclusively? 2022 had t20 wc in calendar a much bigger tourny than CT 2025. the payment is on basis of matches pre decided like Indo Pak clash
 
uppercut said:
Well the actions and results speak for themselves ... quite disturbing that you think Pakistan and its citizens are normal people when it is a fact that some of the worst scumbags are routinely found to be living freely in Pak ... example Dawood, Masood, Osama etc etc.

Just few months ago this happened : https://www.voanews.com/a/pakistan-...as-close-aide-to-osama-bin-laden/7704856.html
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Since you clearly have the IQ of a fencepost I'm not even going to bother arguing with you.

Because unlike you I don't believe every Indian is a bigoted, xenophobic scumbag. No, that just includes people who say stuff like this.^
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
i have said this before and i will say this again that its not about money. BCCI will not accept any such attempt even if PCB brought in broadcast deal and sponsors to cover fot loss of revenue which is not 200 M $ Minus India.. a lot less.. BCCI will feel threatened and start lobbying against such proposal and other boards might still go with bcci. the money compensation solution given by Indian posters is not applicable due to pettiness of BCCI. they just dnt want any tournament in Pakistan. thats BCCI’s end game no matter how much pcb bent over its back in past to take dictates from BCCI which includes Pakistan touring for cwc due to fake assurances given by BCCI
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Even today BCCI is ready to have most of the tournament in pakistan minus India matches and semis and final.

PCB has annual broadcast deals of around 20-22mn usd. Fat chance they can arrange 200mn plus.
 
Devadwal said:
Yes keep gloating untill 2050.

After that win Pakistan badly humiliated by india in 2023 World cup ,2022 World T20 ,2023 Asia cup ,2024 World T20

And most importantly india has won the ICC trophy.

So stick to the thread as I know how to reply with facts.
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CT 2017 & WT20 2021 are big enough humiliations to be gloated for a century, so we will definitely gloat about until you are in a little jar in your grandchildren’s home if not dumped into a polluted river to add to the pollution.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
whats revenue estimate for CT 2025 exclusively? 2022 had t20 wc in calendar a much bigger tourny than CT 2025. the payment is on basis of matches pre decided like Indo Pak clash
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2022 revenue share paper gave estimated revenue from 2024 to 2031. ICC doesn't sell rights separately for each tournament. They are sold in 4 or 8 years pkg.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Even today BCCI is ready to have most of the tournament in pakistan minus India matches and semis and final.

PCB has annual broadcast deals of around 20-22mn usd. Fat chance they can arrange 200mn plus.
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you have this imaginary number of 200 M $ based on 600 M $ revenue from calendar of 2022. its more likely half of it if we want to to hypothetically treat CT 2025 minus india
 
cricketjoshila said:
2022 revenue share paper gave estimated revenue from 2024 to 2031. ICC doesn't sell rights separately for each tournament. They are sold in 4 or 8 years pkg.
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rights are sold for a cycle with number of matches and estimated revenue worked up by ICC.. its business.. Broadcasters just dnt pay top $ for a package. they want similar returns in their books too for profit. now a cwc in 2023 and CT in 2025 cant be treated as equal for broadcasters
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
you have this imaginary number of 200 M $ based on 600 M $ revenue from calendar of 2022. its more likely half of it if we want to to hypothetically treat CT 2025 minus india
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What revenue calendar of 2022?

ICC gives out its revenue prediction for every cycle. In 2022 it gave the revenue prediction for its next cycle commencing in 2024. That paper mentioned its annual revenue estimate of $600mn.

PCB has issues getting 20mn a year broadcast deals. Where will they get 100mn?
 
cricketjoshila said:
PCB has to decide what is objective is?

Pride? Money? Hosting?

What?
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The objective has to be to keep international cricket in Pakistan going and making some money vs nothing. Not sure boycotting an ICC event will achieve that but a Hybrid model will for the time being.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
rights are sold for a cycle with number of matches and estimated revenue worked up by ICC.. its business.. Broadcasters just dnt pay top $ for a package. they want similar returns in their books too for profit. now a cwc in 2023 and CT in 2025 cant be treated as equal for broadcasters
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This is why payment is in equalized annual installments so that the distribution remains the same and boards can make their budgets.
 
Indian cricketers will miss out on the opportunity to play infront of civil crowds, would have been a good change from the jungle back home. Gotta feel sorry for them.
 
Savak said:
The objective has to be to keep international cricket in Pakistan going and making some money vs nothing. Not sure boycotting an ICC event will achieve that but a Hybrid model will for the time being.
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Then hybrid model.

Boycott will not achieve anything.

If Pakistan boycotts. BCCI will do everything to make CT a grand financial success. May even try to host it.

If the event is a financial success, Pakistan has no cards to play.
 
cricketjoshila said:
What revenue calendar of 2022?

ICC gives out its revenue prediction for every cycle. In 2022 it gave the revenue prediction for its next cycle commencing in 2024. That paper mentioned its annual revenue estimate of $600mn.

PCB has issues getting 20mn a year broadcast deals. Where will they get 100mn?
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it will not be job of pcb alone. and 20M a year for home series and icc event is entirely different. ICC did nt give anything to pcb for stadium remodeling. that money came out of PCB’s pocket. do you think 42 Million $ is given just for remodelling by icc which is higher than revenue share of Pak. lets just say PCB and icc can bring in 50 Million$. Pak forfeits its annual share. how much is left?
 
cricketjoshila said:
This is why payment is in equalized annual installments so that the distribution remains the same and boards can make their budgets.
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that with assumption that all tournaments will happen and teams will participate. once we isolate ct 2025 , its revenue will be worked up separately from pool and number will come down
 
Maybe BCCI, PCB and ICC can negotiate this route

India play all it's matches in Dubai including the one vs Pakistan.

One semi finals in Pakistan, other in UAE

Final will be hosted by Pakistan whether India is in it or not.
- If India qualifies, you arrive the day of the game, play and leave on the same evening.

Pakistan are added as co hosts along with India and Sri Lanka for the T20 WC26

Pakistan will play all it's games including the semis in Pakistan/Sri Lanka
- If Pakistan does qualify for the final. Like India they will travel to India, play and leave on the same day
 
Mamoon said:
CT 2017 & WT20 2021 are big enough humiliations to be gloated for a century, so we will definitely gloat about until you are in a little jar in your grandchildren’s home if not dumped into a polluted river to add to the pollution.
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Just curious ... check my signature and let me know the gloating time period for those 8 wins. Once you are done with those 8 I have another batch. :ROFLMAO:
 
Bhaijaan said:
Our team remains the primary target of terrorists.
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So you admit it is a security issue then?

No nonsense about it national pride or 26/11 or Pulwala matters when playing on the UAE against Pakistan?

I still don’t understand why the Indian Tennis Team in the Davis Cup did not have such issues..
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
it will not be job of pcb alone. and 20M a year for home series and icc event is entirely different. ICC did nt give anything to pcb for stadium remodeling. that money came out of PCB’s pocket. do you think 42 Million $ is given just for remodelling by icc which is higher than revenue share of Pak. lets just say PCB and icc can bring in 50 Million$. Pak forfeits its annual share. how much is left?
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ICC gave PCB $65mn as hosting fees. That's how PCB is getting the stadium renovated. Its done by all host boards.

$20mn is PSL plus Home series. And even that's over estimation. Do you know how much PCB got for the last England series?

The question of annual share comes after there is revenue. If the revenue was 600mn PCB would get 34.5mn. If the revenue is 50mn how much would PCB get?
 
shah9425 said:
From now on no same grouping with indian in ICC and Asia cup tournaments

For future tournaments Pakistan should not play a single match in India
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All they need to do is not play any matches with India but still particapte in ICC tournaments. No matches to be held in India, arrange matches in another country.
 
uppercut said:
Just curious ... check my signature and let me know the gloating time period for those 8 wins. Once you are done with those 8 I have another batch. :ROFLMAO:
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Cool story, but none of that changes the fact that no team has suffered a bigger spanking in an ICC tournament final than India did at the hands of Pakistan in 2017.

It is in the history books, and India will never return the favor because both teams rarely get to meet in finals and it is even more rare for a team to be so pathetic that they end up losing by 180+ runs 🤡
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
All they need to do is not play any matches with India but still particapte in ICC tournaments. No matches to be held in India, arrange matches in another country.
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Yeah like 2026 t20 WC either play in Sri Lanka or Pakistan can be added as co host himself
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Since you clearly have the IQ of a fencepost I'm not even going to bother arguing with you.

Because unlike you I don't believe every Indian is a bigoted, xenophobic scumbag. No, that just includes people who say stuff like this.^
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ahhh the good old "generalization" excuse. The reality is that the vast majority of good people that you claim to be residing in Pakistan do not do anything tangible to change the situation. As the saying goes ... the standard you pass by is the standard you accept. This is the difference between Pakistan and normal countries. Essentially the state of a country is a accurate reflection of the general moral compass of its citizens. You can hate me all you want but these are cold hard facts you cannot ignore.
 
cricketjoshila said:
ICC gave PCB $65mn as hosting fees. That's how PCB is getting the stadium renovated. Its done by all host boards.

$20mn is PSL plus Home series. And even that's over estimation. Do you know how much PCB got for the last England series?

The question of annual share comes after there is revenue. If the revenue was 600mn PCB would get 34.5mn. If the revenue is 50mn how much would PCB get?
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CT 2025 is not a big tournament hence its revenue is not 600 Million $. thats an exaggerated number from a pool that includes more lucrative tournaments so CT 2025 without India is only worth around 100-120 Million. Pakistan would still be getting proportionate share from pool money even after taking out CT 2025 from it. But fact of matter is if ICC tells Pak to cover 100-120 million revenue .. Pak can consider it.. that would also including getting Government grants apart from broadcast deals that will be different from psl deal or a england home series. there will be 8 countries involved and PCB can bring in multiple sponsors and broadcasters with help of ICC marketing team. but Reason Pak wont consider it because BCCI wont let it through and most likely will throw its weight around to block any such move. Indian people will be outraged and that will push bcci to take evasive action. BCCI does nt want the tourney to happen in Pak. pcb knows it and wont offer any compensation model to other boards. BCCI only awarded pcb hosting rights to humiliate pcb later on which they are doing now.
 
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Mamoon said:
Cool story, but none of that changes the fact that no team has suffered a bigger spanking in an ICC tournament final than India did at the hands of Pakistan in 2017.

It is in the history books, and India will never return the favor because both teams rarely get to meet in finals and it is even more rare for a team to be so pathetic that they end up losing by 180+ runs 🤡
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It truly is a really cool story bro ( Very nightmarish one for you though !) ... 32 years and counting not a SINGLE freakin win in a Worldcup match. I have lost count of the number of Generations of Pakistani cricketers that have come and gone and failed to win a single measly group stage Worldcup ODI ... never mind a knockout match. In other words every single Pakistani ODI Cricket legend has never experienced the joy of a win over their arch enemy. Whereas every single Indian ODI cricketer worth his salt has experienced the joy of kicking the arch rivals in their teeth.


Even the scripted sports like WWE do not script such lengthy win streaks and would be embarrassed about the real streak. Talk about utter humiliation :cool: :ROFLMAO:
 
Pakistan pulling out of India matches in ICC tournaments will only harm themselves.

One of the reasons why Pakistan receive a similar revenue share to Australia and England is because of the India-Pakistan match.

Time for the PCB to swallow their pride and agree on a hybrid model.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
CT 2025 is not a big tournament hence its revenue is not 600 Million $. thats an exaggerated number from a pool that includes more lucrative tournaments so CT 2025 without India is only worth around 100-120 Million. Pakistan would still be getting proportionate share from pool money even after taking out CT 2025 from it. But fact of matter is if ICC tells Pak to cover 100-120 million revenue .. Pak can consider it.. that would also including getting Government grants apart from broadcast deals that will be different from psl deal or a england home series. there will be 8 countries involved and PCB can bring in multiple sponsors and broadcasters with help of ICC marketing team. but Reason Pak wont consider it because BCCI wont let it through and most likely will throw its weight around to block any such move. Indian people will be outraged and that will push bcci to take evasive action. BCCI does nt want the tourney to happen in Pak. pcb knows it and wont offer any compensation model to other boards. BCCI only awarded pcb hosting rights to humiliate pcb later on which they are doing now
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CT with India is the number that is in consideration. If India moves out how much of the 600mn will ICC make. PCB has to make up the difference.

All broadcast rights for separate territories are already sold. PCB cannot resell them again. And all that makes only 10 per cent of ICC's revenue.

Its the India territory that makes up the rest 90 per cent. Without India no Indian broadcaster owill pay much for it.

If the Pakistan government is willing to give away 200mn USD of IMF money. So be it. Hopefully the IMF will agree to it.

Not even once has PCB offered to cover the losses.

Even now BCCI is ready for the hybrid model which means most of the matches will be in Pakistan.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Pakistanis are living under a massive delusion that the big ticket ICC match with Bharat is 50% their contribution.

BCCI literally built a billion dollar venture in IPL without any Pakistani player and once there is no cricket with Pakistan, matches against top tier teams will replace this.

Yes the cultural spectable of Bharat vs Pakistan is unbeatable anywhere in the world. But if it’s about just money , our matches with any of the top teams in ICC events will continue to bring huge revenues for ICC.

This myth and delusion of Pakistanis will soon be broken hopefully we all want PCB to boycott us. Please do that.
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As a Pakistani fan and supporter, i agree with it. Nothing gonna happen with boycott. Top level leadership has to take measures, military has to go back to their defined scope of work and remain their, let civil government make and dictate foreign policy and relations as well trade with neighboring countries and i am sure india will support those decisions.
 
Why is it ok to send the blind mens Indian cricket team to Pakistan, but not the unblind.

I heard Pakistan is hosting the 2079 world cup on the Moon. India has already refused to send the team due to safety concerns. The martians have guaranteed safety to the Indian cricket team. BJP has said noooooooooo
 
cricketjoshila said:
CT with India is the number that is in consideration. If India moves out how much of the 600mn will ICC make. PCB has to make up the difference.

All broadcast rights for separate territories are already sold. PCB cannot resell them again. And all that makes only 10 per cent of ICC's revenue.

Its the India territory that makes up the rest 90 per cent. Without India no Indian broadcaster owill pay much for it.

If the Pakistan government is willing to give away 200mn USD of IMF money. So be it. Hopefully the IMF will agree to it.

Not even once has PCB offered to cover the losses.

Even now BCCI is ready for the hybrid model which means most of the matches will be in Pakistan.
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600 Million is not CT 25 revenue. you wont admit it but its not. tournaments are not equal. pool money is divided into equal number of years and then distributed as 600 Million $ after expenses of icc are deducted. if we were to separate CT 2025 from pool , ICC wont loose 600 Million $ . it will be half of it . so even with India in it , CT 2025 is worth around 300 Million $ at most
 
cricketjoshila said:
CT with India is the number that is in consideration. If India moves out how much of the 600mn will ICC make. PCB has to make up the difference.

All broadcast rights for separate territories are already sold. PCB cannot resell them again. And all that makes only 10 per cent of ICC's revenue.

Its the India territory that makes up the rest 90 per cent. Without India no Indian broadcaster owill pay much for it.

If the Pakistan government is willing to give away 200mn USD of IMF money. So be it. Hopefully the IMF will agree to it.

Not even once has PCB offered to cover the losses.

Even now BCCI is ready for the hybrid model which means most of the matches will be in Pakistan.
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so Disney Hotstar paid 3 Billion $ for Indian Market for rights cycle of 2024-2027. lets say icc did not revived CT as a tournament , how much disney would have bid on rights? 2.4 Billion USD , surely not. A tournament that lasts around a month and the one that will only last 2 weeks surely are not equal for a broadcaster . they will make more money from longer tournament compared to shorter one
 
Hawkeye said:
Legal action?

Hahahaha.

Do we really need to repeat the embarrassment of last time? Where upon taking “legal action” PCB instead was asked to pay a few million dollars.

That time it was incompetent Sethi.

Don’t expect any different output this time if the board is stupid enough to repeat the same blunder.

- No legal action will help
- No threats or boycotting IND matches will help
- Only hope is Nawaz activating diplomatic channels directly with Modi and come to a solution.

Nothing else will make this CT happen normally.
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Your last point is very important but like always PCB / Pakistan government was not so pro active.

They should have started the diplomatic channels a long time ago but they were sleeping and its too late now

PCB was simply waiting for BCCI response and now they are crying when everyone were already know the BCCI stance .
 
adi_62941 said:
As a Pakistani fan and supporter, i agree with it. Nothing gonna happen with boycott. Top level leadership has to take measures, military has to go back to their defined scope of work and remain their, let civil government make and dictate foreign policy and relations as well trade with neighboring countries and i am sure india will support those decisions.
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Unfortunately you are a minority in Pakistan. Majority of the people in Pakistan remain delusional with no awareness about where things stand and what the realities of the world are.

There are people in this thread who are claiming Pakistan hosting Osama Bin Laden is as bad Bharat hosting Sheikh Haseena.
 
PakFan2010 said:
Pakistan pulling out of India matches in ICC tournaments will only harm themselves.

One of the reasons why Pakistan receive a similar revenue share to Australia and England is because of the India-Pakistan match.

Time for the PCB to swallow their pride and agree on a hybrid model.
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Once Pakistan stop playing against India In ICC event's than revenue share of pakistan will decrease from next cycles .

Delusion fans won't understand that.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
600 Million is not CT 25 revenue. you wont admit it but its not. tournaments are not equal. pool money is divided into equal number of years and then distributed as 600 Million $ after expenses of icc are deducted. if we were to separate CT 2025 from pool , ICC wont loose 600 Million $ . it will be half of it . so even with India in it , CT 2025 is worth around 300 Million $ at most
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ICC doesn't sell tournament rights separately. The entire time period is sold and then the amount paid in annual installments.
 
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