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KARACHI: The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is planning to hire some former players as coaches and managers of the national age-group teams, taking inspiration from the success that India has achieved with Rahul Dravid in a similar role.

There is speculation here that former captain Younis Khan is being considered for the role of Pakistan's under-19 coach and manager.

Younis, who retired last year after becoming Pakistan's highest Test run-getter and the first to reach 10,000 runs in the format, has expressed interest in coaching junior players if the board gave him "full freedom" to implement his programme.

"Australia utilised the services of their top players like Rodney Marsh, Allan Border and Ricky Pointing while India has also given Dravid the responsibility of manning their under-19 players and it has produced good results," PCB Chairman Ehsan Mani said.

Dravid has been the coach of the Indian under-19 and A teams and has drawn a lot of credit for shaping up the youngsters. Under his tutelage, the under-19 team won the ICC World Cup last year.

In Australia, Border has served as a selector and Ponting is currently part of the national team's coaching staff.

The PCB, on the other hand, has constantly changed the coaches and managers of the under-19 squad, something that has been blamed for its below-par performances. It has also avoided appointing high-profile former players as coaches/managers of the youth teams.

Mani, while speaking to the the media in Lahore, said that the board has finally decided to utilise the services of its former senior players to work with the youth.

"We also need to have classes for our players as they go on to become ambassadors for the country. They will be given grooming and education at the National Cricket Academy," Mani said.

"We should have attached our own coaches with foreign coaches just like India did so that they could have also learnt a lot more."

The PCB is also considering appointing former Test captain Mohammad Yousuf as the batting coach at its National Cricket Academy in Lahore.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-coaching-youngsters/articleshow/67971750.cms
 
Do they have any coaching qualifications? Do they have any passion for working with junior cricketers?
 
Younis khan will be far better than current u19 coach .our batting in under 19 is average from couple of years now
 
Hope Younis Khan doesn’t beat up someone this time around.
 
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Good initiative. I was a big fan of Yousuf and his style of play until I heard his analysis on tv. Doesn't come across as a smart cookie. Younis would be perfect for the role. He commands respect and carries himself well.
 
What has this world come to, surely Younis is too inexperienced for coaching U19 level, you need a proper coach like Intikhab or Mushtaq Mohammad.
 
I would like this

U 19
Head, Batting coach: M Yousuf
Bowling coach: M Asif

NCA:
Director: Mudassar Nazar
Batting coach: Younis Khan
Bowling coach: M Akram

A team
Batting coach: M Yousuf
Bowling coach: Shoaib Akhtar

Chief selector: Inzamam ul Haq
Selection committe: Misbah ul Haq, Afridi, Moin Khan, Saqlain, Shoaib Akhtar


International team:

Head coach: Mickey Arthur
Batting coach: Andy Flower
Fast bowling coach: Waqar Younis
Spin bowling coach: Mushtaq Ahmed
Fielding coach: Johnty Rhodes
 
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Good idea. Lots of coaches spoke of how thorough YK was in his preparations and pre-match routines. He has a Level 2 coaching qualification so it's not like he hasn't any training.
 
Hope they provide Younis with a high-end Room to stay and make prior arrangements for his accommodation this time if he gets selected!:yk3
 
I would like this

U 19
Head, Batting coach: M Yousuf
Bowling coach: M Asif

NCA:
Director: Mudassar Nazar
Batting coach: Younis Khan
Bowling coach: M Akram

A team
Batting coach: M Yousuf
Bowling coach: Shoaib Akhtar

Chief selector: Inzamam ul Haq
Selection committe: Misbah ul Haq, Afridi, Moin Khan, Saqlain, Shoaib Akhtar


International team:

Head coach: Mickey Arthur
Batting coach: Andy Flower
Fast bowling coach: Waqar Younis
Spin bowling coach: Mushtaq Ahmed
Fielding coach: Johnty Rhodes

why would you want to allow fixer,ill discipline any way near under 19 kids.Asif is not the ideal choice it should be someone like waqar youis
 
why would you want to allow fixer,ill discipline any way near under 19 kids.Asif is not the ideal choice it should be someone like waqar youis

It's my opinion. He did a mistake, and everyone does. He's been punished. And, yes, he shouldn't be allowed to represent the country. But, you can utilise his services.

Moreover, Amir is still being the golden boy, despite fixing.


Regarding Waqar, I think he lives in Aus. He won't stay in Pak unless it's paid well. He can be paid well for being the coach of a national team, but not for being a u 19 coach.

That's the reason I didn't include Azhar or Waqar as they won't reside in Pak for low salaries.

Wasim is a commentator and also in some committee. So he wouldn't be available either.
 
It's my opinion. He did a mistake, and everyone does. He's been punished. And, yes, he shouldn't be allowed to represent the country. But, you can utilise his services.

Moreover, Amir is still being the golden boy, despite fixing.


Regarding Waqar, I think he lives in Aus. He won't stay in Pak unless it's paid well. He can be paid well for being the coach of a national team, but not for being a u 19 coach.

That's the reason I didn't include Azhar or Waqar as they won't reside in Pak for low salaries.

Wasim is a commentator and also in some committee. So he wouldn't be available either.

Don,t drag amir here he is not going to retire soon neither i am going to support his job as a coach .There is certain other thing you should know about asif he is ban to enter uae .he is also not allowed to enter in england without proper application.he have hit his partner with the bat .he have positive dop test.

Considering all his record if you still want him to ruin kid career than you are not pak team well wisher .if not waqar than there are dozen ex player with clean record who should be consider
 
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Don,t drag amir here he is not going to retire soon neither i am going to support his job as a coach .There is certain other thing you should know about asif he is ban to enter uae .he is also not allowed to enter in england without proper application.he have hit his partner with the bat .he have positive dop test.

Considering all his record if you still want him to ruin kid career than you are not pak team well wisher .if not waqar than there are dozen ex player with clean record who should be consider

Take a chill pill, bro. It's just my opinion. You can disagree.
 
Take a chill pill, bro. It's just my opinion. You can disagree.

Asif could be really a good choice as bowling coach for our bowlers whom lack new ball bowling skills. He could be deployed in NCA under scrutiny if possible else in tour preparations+domestic coach could be the way to go. It’s like we need him not sure about vise versa. I think abbas played in the same team as asif before debut there was improvement in him in the past. He recognised issues related with Abbas well before england series and was telling on a tv show. And we have a coach who is payed as British resident and there is no improvement in bowling since he took over except that some excellent debuts on the basis of domestic and psl performances like Hassan abbas etc. We always feel helpless when a wicket is needed and part of it coach’s planning goes on a holiday on the same day
 
Dravid has managed to make under 19 coaching glamorous.

Dravid was always a gentleman in his playing days on and off the field. Yousuf and younis behaved more like prima donas. Granted they have much to offer technically to these youngsters but certainly not a good role model for them.
 
Younis is a big no.

He'll only product his type of players, who are sitting ducks against pacers and hopping, struggling to face fast bowlers.


MoYO yes, a very good choice! Keep Younis out!

MoYo also has a negative side to him where he'll instill the 'first of all I want to thank...' mentality in the players.
 
I would like this

U 19
Head, Batting coach: M Yousuf
Bowling coach: M Asif

NCA:
Director: Mudassar Nazar
Batting coach: Younis Khan
Bowling coach: M Akram

A team
Batting coach: M Yousuf
Bowling coach: Shoaib Akhtar

Chief selector: Inzamam ul Haq
Selection committe: Misbah ul Haq, Afridi, Moin Khan, Saqlain, Shoaib Akhtar


International team:

Head coach: Mickey Arthur
Batting coach: Andy Flower
Fast bowling coach: Waqar Younis
Spin bowling coach: Mushtaq Ahmed
Fielding coach: Johnty Rhodes

Can’t agree more.

Wish this could be too in reality.
 
I would like this

U 19
Head, Batting coach: M Yousuf
Bowling coach: M Asif

NCA:
Director: Mudassar Nazar
Batting coach: Younis Khan
Bowling coach: M Akram

A team
Batting coach: M Yousuf
Bowling coach: Shoaib Akhtar

Chief selector: Inzamam ul Haq
Selection committe: Misbah ul Haq, Afridi, Moin Khan, Saqlain, Shoaib Akhtar


International team:

Head coach: Mickey Arthur
Batting coach: Andy Flower
Fast bowling coach: Waqar Younis
Spin bowling coach: Mushtaq Ahmed
Fielding coach: Johnty Rhodes

Good thought, but i would keep shoaib, asif and inzi out of the setup. Inzi as we have all seen. Asif could have been but is past history and travel ban issues effectively take him out. Shoaib hmm, would be interesting but the character isn't an ideal candidate for grooming young kids. The domestic setup needs someone who can undwrstand the technical deficit that our raw talents faces. Younis and mo yo are extremely competent. Wasim/Waqar would be gold for these young buds at the NCA.
 
The problem is that if any of these guys that become even modestly successful they will want the main job, and the 2 jobs are totally different.
 
Younis needs ‘full freedom’
Javed Maiandad always needed full freedom as captain and coach
He never lasted long in either job
 
Younis is a big no.

He'll only product his type of players, who are sitting ducks against pacers and hopping, struggling to face fast bowlers.


MoYO yes, a very good choice! Keep Younis out!

MoYo also has a negative side to him where he'll instill the 'first of all I want to thank...' mentality in the players.
Younis was more than competent against pace at his peak. You cannot extrapolate what happened at the end of his career when he was well past 40 years of age.

Even now he'd walk into this mediocre batting lineup.
 
Younis is a big no.

He'll only product his type of players, who are sitting ducks against pacers and hopping, struggling to face fast bowlers.


MoYO yes, a very good choice! Keep Younis out!

MoYo also has a negative side to him where he'll instill the 'first of all I want to thank...' mentality in the players.

Coming from a Misbah fan ok then.
 
Younis was more than competent against pace at his peak. You cannot extrapolate what happened at the end of his career when he was well past 40 years of age.

Even now he'd walk into this mediocre batting lineup.

I disagree.

Coming from a Misbah fan ok then.

What does that have to do with anything, genius?
 
I disagree.



What does that have to do with anything, genius?

Mr genius you don't average 50 plus by bashing spinners all your career. you don't score double hundred in England by basing spinners. Mr genius he is going to be teaching them about batting not that he will be batting in their place. Plus i read recently he has a qualification. With that stupid logic of your means people who haven't even played international are awful coaches. Lets ask Shan that. Your batting has nothing to do with your coaching.
 
International team:

Head coach: Mickey Arthur
Batting coach: Andy Flower
Fast bowling coach: Waqar Younis
Spin bowling coach: Mushtaq Ahmed
Fielding coach: Johnty Rhodes
Waqar is a TTF as coach. He has been bowling coach, and twice head coach, and failed each time.

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^^ This was our atrocious bowling record during legendary fast bowler Waqar's 2nd stint as head coach. Second only to UAE !
 
And we seriously think that these two, with their giant sized egos, will consider anything less than a job with the national team? No way!
 
Neither strike me as having the right temperament to be coaches for young players.
Younus is too moody and emotional, Yousuf is too jaded and bitter. Both are great bats, but not sure if they should be coaching.
 
Younis is a big no.

He'll only product his type of players, who are sitting ducks against pacers and hopping, struggling to face fast bowlers.


MoYO yes, a very good choice! Keep Younis out!

MoYo also has a negative side to him where he'll instill the 'first of all I want to thank...' mentality in the players.

50 average in Australia, 50 average in England, 43 average in NZ. Only place he did poorly is SA, with an average of 32 which is still respectable.
 
It's my opinion. He did a mistake, and everyone does. He's been punished. And, yes, he shouldn't be allowed to represent the country. But, you can utilise his services.

Moreover, Amir is still being the golden boy, despite fixing.


Regarding Waqar, I think he lives in Aus. He won't stay in Pak unless it's paid well. He can be paid well for being the coach of a national team, but not for being a u 19 coach.

That's the reason I didn't include Azhar or Waqar as they won't reside in Pak for low salaries.

Wasim is a commentator and also in some committee. So he wouldn't be available either.

I wouldn't mind Asif use as a bowling coach (or consultant) if he could do a good job. He made a mistake, and better he teach others how to maximise their skill and reaching their potential. Would redeem him in the eyes of many people, providing a service so that others can make their cricketing dreams come true. And I don't think he'd likely engage in fixing as a coach, all are unlikely to make the same mistake, and those who bribe cricketers to fix are unlikely to want to use them again as they're under watch now, better use those who haven't been caught or completely new people.

Representing as a cricketer again is more selfish really, you get the glory, yet you've already betrayed the country before selling out for money. Behind the scenes involvement for the good of Pakistan, I don't mind.

I don't think any of the trio should have really been allowed to play international cricket again. But to support Pakistan cricket as an advisory role I can accept.
 
They were good players but both possess terrible temperament, not suitable to train youngsters.
 
I hope it is not true. Even though both are brilliant players, what little I have seen them in media, they look like terrible role models for young players. For training these kids, it is not only important to be a good player, it is also important to be a good role model overall. Rahul Dravid struck that right balance for India. I don't know who in Pakistan is like that, but certainly not these two.
 
Reports indicating that Younis Khan may have this job after all!

Good news, in my view.
 
Reports indicating that Younis Khan may have this job after all!

Good news, in my view.

Excellent news, Younus is really good with handling of players and helping them mentally and that is the key part of this job.
 
Younis could be a very good coach for young players. He was very strong mentally and knew how to rotate strike.
 
Do they have any coaching qualifications? Do they have any passion for working with junior cricketers?

Experience trumps qualifications. These two have loads of experience to pass on and have Younis especially, has always been good with youngsters. Azhar and Shafiq especially were better when they batted with him.
 
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Good. What about Yousuf? Need to make use of his skills.

Yousuf doesn’t seeem coach type

Bad work ethic. Holds grudges. Depended too much on natural skills and flair as a player
 
News regarding Younis Khan

Recently the news came on social media that PCB is considering to appoint Younis Khan as the coach of the Under 19 Team.... How true is the news?
Secondly what are your views regarding this decision, if at all it's true???
 
It is a very good decision. Younis cannot manage experienced players because of his massive ego, but he is a wonderful mentor for young players and has always managed to get along with them. I don't think Pakistan can ask for a better U-19 coach.
 
It is a very good decision. Younis cannot manage experienced players because of his massive ego, but he is a wonderful mentor for young players and has always managed to get along with them. I don't think Pakistan can ask for a better U-19 coach.

You have a valid point.... But is this news true, or was it just a fake news?
 
I heard this before as well. If it is a true then it's good. Rahul Dravid coached his u19 team to a Wc. So hopefully Younis Khan can play a similar role.
 
You have a valid point.... But is this news true, or was it just a fake news?

Could be true, we have heard this rumor a couple of times now. Perhaps talks are underway but nothing has been finalized yet.

As long as Younis is kept away from the national team, he will be an asset at any junior level.
 
I heard this before as well. If it is a true then it's good. Rahul Dravid coached his u19 team to a Wc. So hopefully Younis Khan can play a similar role.

Surely if it does happen, the next generation batsmen would be very good... But PCB needs to understand it and get Younis in.
 
Could be true, we have heard this rumor a couple of times now. Perhaps talks are underway but nothing has been finalized yet.

As long as Younis is kept away from the national team, he will be an asset at any junior level.

I wish PCB takes a sensible decision and gets Younis in... He can play a huge role in the development of young budding cricketers, especially batsmen.
 
Younis declines PCB offer to coach U-19 national team

Former Pakistan captain Younis Khan rejected the offer to coach Pakistan U-19 team after PCB didn’t consider his demand of simultaneously being appointed the chief selector of the colts set-up.

“The idea was to have a high-profile cricketer work with the junior players on long-term basis instead of the old practice of having lesser known names attached to the Pakistan under-19 side,” a PCB official said.

It is learnt that PCB turned down Younis’ demand as dual role of chief selector and head coach as it would have led to a conflict of interest.

“At the moment, it appears that Younis will not be working for the PCB as he has made it clear he wants total independence to work and get results with the junior team,” the official added.

Younis, who retired from all cricket in 2017 after becoming the first Pakistani batsmen to reach 10,000 Test runs, is known to be a tough customer and very straight forward.

In the past he has made no bones of the fact that he was not happy with the workings of the PCB and some of its officials.

The Pakistan under-19 team recently had its tour to Sri Lanka postponed indefinitely due to the bomb blasts in Colombo and surrounding areas while it is due to tour South Africa in June as it prepares for the junior World Cup.

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...cb-pakistan-cricket-board/article27040782.ece
 
YK is 100% right here in his demand and respect for the man. Independent selectors’ roles are obsolete in modern sports - if he is to take charge of young players, The likes of Basit Ali must not select his students; at worst they can make the junior CS report to YK, if PCB really wants to pay some pensions to few worthless guys.
 
Is Rahul Dravid the U19 Chief Selector as well? I don't think so.

The typical problem with our ex legends, they talk a lot but when the time comes don't step up when it comes to helping Pakistan Cricket
 
Younis declines PCB offer to coach U-19 national team

Former Pakistan captain Younis Khan rejected the offer to coach Pakistan U-19 team after PCB didn’t consider his demand of simultaneously being appointed the chief selector of the colts set-up.

“The idea was to have a high-profile cricketer work with the junior players on long-term basis instead of the old practice of having lesser known names attached to the Pakistan under-19 side,” a PCB official said.

It is learnt that PCB turned down Younis’ demand as dual role of chief selector and head coach as it would have led to a conflict of interest.

“At the moment, it appears that Younis will not be working for the PCB as he has made it clear he wants total independence to work and get results with the junior team,” the official added.

Younis, who retired from all cricket in 2017 after becoming the first Pakistani batsmen to reach 10,000 Test runs, is known to be a tough customer and very straight forward.

In the past he has made no bones of the fact that he was not happy with the workings of the PCB and some of its officials.

The Pakistan under-19 team recently had its tour to Sri Lanka postponed indefinitely due to the bomb blasts in Colombo and surrounding areas while it is due to tour South Africa in June as it prepares for the junior World Cup.

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...cb-pakistan-cricket-board/article27040782.ece

A great player but YK is too short tempered a person to coach youngsters.
 
Younis is in the right. If we are to trust Younis with developing our under 19 team and to polish talent. We can’t expect a basit Ali as a chief selector to select that talent. Let’s give younis total autonomy.
 
Younis is in the right. If we are to trust Younis with developing our under 19 team and to polish talent. We can’t expect a basit Ali as a chief selector to select that talent. Let’s give younis total autonomy.

Not really, a coach cannot be a chief selector, he will let his biases in the way and Younis Khan has a history of being short fused and tempramental. I doubt Rahul Dravid is the Chief Selector of the Indian U-19 team.
 
To be frank a coach can be part of the selection process but not the sole selector. If you have one person deciding who is picked then there will other issues that will prop up. This is a very unrealistic demand from Younis.
 
What's conflict of interest in dual roles? We've had useless PCB stooges like Zakir Khan and Nadeem Khan becoming "managers-cum-coaches" for U19 tours. Didn't they have dual roles?
Najam Sethi was Chairman PCB and PSL head for 3 long years, where was conflict of interest? Guess Ehsan Mani is also PSL head alongside PCB chief, again no conflict of interest.

Just because YK wants more autonomy, vague principles of conflict of interest are applied
 
YK was right. He doesn't want to be given useless talent to work with. With autonomy, he could really unearth some gems and work on them.

There is no conflict. Modern sports do not have selectors, just scouts who report into the team coach/manager.

PCB has missed a trick - probably because Mani has a fragile ego.
 
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And the drama queen is up to his usual "I don't want to be a dummy coach" tantrum again.

Yousuf will be a much better choice for this role. A much better batsman than YK, Yousuf has a lot more to teach the youngsters.

Even if YK does become the coach, he will resign after 1 month anyway while creating the usual drama.
 
A coach can at best be a selector but not the chief selector
 
To be frank a coach can be part of the selection process but not the sole selector. If you have one person deciding who is picked then there will other issues that will prop up. This is a very unrealistic demand from Younis.

NO - he must be in charge of everything and to assist him, several scouts will work across country. May be, to reduce his (not individual YK, here he means Head Coach) involvement, there can be a Chief scout, who'll eat, drink & breathe every word by alphabets from Head Coach.

That is what Sir Alex, Jo Mou, Ar$e Wag, Pep Gu, Jag Klop or Carlo Anc has done for decades now and it's working perfectly in a trillion dollar global soccer business - developing players in Cricket isn't something unique quantum mechanics that it can't work here.

Conflict of Interest is my left foot - put him in charge of everything and make % of his (& his scouts) payment as a function of performance and periodic targets - after that interests won't conflict much.
 
Would be a great move - but not sure if being u19 coach will make him an automatic choice for senior side position - hope that it doesnt become that later.
 
LAHORE: Former Test captain Younis Khan has failed to come to a consensus with the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) over potentially taking up the role as coach and chief selector of the national junior team, well-informed sources told Dawn on Tuesday.

Younis and the PCB were in negotiations over the former batsman taking up the two roles but sources in the board said that he was demanding a hefty remuneration and extraordinary powers which were not offered to him.

The PCB had earlier wanted to appoint former star pacer Shoaib Akhtar on the two posts but they couldn’t agree on a deal before shifting their attention to Younis, who led Pakistan to their maiden World T20 triumph in 2009 and retired from the game in 2017.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1480884
 
LAHORE: Former Test captain Younis Khan has failed to come to a consensus with the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) over potentially taking up the role as coach and chief selector of the national junior team, well-informed sources told Dawn on Tuesday.

Younis and the PCB were in negotiations over the former batsman taking up the two roles but sources in the board said that he was demanding a hefty remuneration and extraordinary powers which were not offered to him.

The PCB had earlier wanted to appoint former star pacer Shoaib Akhtar on the two posts but they couldn’t agree on a deal before shifting their attention to Younis, who led Pakistan to their maiden World T20 triumph in 2009 and retired from the game in 2017.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1480884

The PCB and its ago. Why can't it just give what these players want? You can't expect to attract top talent in the market by not offering competitive wages.
 
The PCB and its ago. Why can't it just give what these players want? You can't expect to attract top talent in the market by not offering competitive wages.

Dont think we've heard the end of this yet - YK won't let go of this so easily.
 
The PCB and its ago. Why can't it just give what these players want? You can't expect to attract top talent in the market by not offering competitive wages.

No board should give players whatever they want. Every board has its laws and rules.
 
All about the rupees.

Sadly for many of our former players money comes ahead of anything.
 
All about the rupees.

Sadly for many of our former players money comes ahead of anything.

Why should YK work for less than what he feels he is worth. Dravid is paid very handsomely by BCCI.

PCB is not doing a favor to YK.Instead of trying to be cheapskate , PCB should try to pay them properly.
 
All about the rupees.

Sadly for many of our former players money comes ahead of anything.

Players have families to feed, expenses to meet and after toiling for the country for a good 15-20 years, they want some stability and comfort. Younis Khan should be given what he is worth and above that as well. The PCB needs to stop getting into conflicts with our legends. India already is fully utilizing all of its ex legends and paying them extravagently while our PCB is filled with 60's and 70's oldies who belong to 4 generations ago and are being paid a handsome amount by the PCB.
 
All about the rupees.

Sadly for many of our former players money comes ahead of anything.

I don't think it has anything to do with money. Younis Khan isn't a greedy individual, like Misbah is.

With this case it's more to do with the fact that he preempts interference from Basit Ali.
 
Why should YK work for less than what he feels he is worth. Dravid is paid very handsomely by BCCI.

PCB is not doing a favor to YK.Instead of trying to be cheapskate , PCB should try to pay them properly.

Yea he has a right to demand a decent wage.
 
Doubt if Rahul was our u 19 selector.....YK would be a good role model for u19 youngsters to emulate....a dignified guy not given to the useless theatrics nowadays seen, much like Rahul or Kallis or Cook or mahela/sanga... i guess if pcb sort out the money issue, appoint yk as long term, will reap rich dividends..
 
The PCB and its ago. Why can't it just give what these players want? You can't expect to attract top talent in the market by not offering competitive wages.

Depends what he wanted. I think the money issue isnt the big one. i think its the selection one that has caused the main problem..he wants to be in control but I dont think the PCB is willing to allow that much control..
 
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