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  • Inzamam-ul-Haq and Mickey Arthur have completed consultation
  • 25 player names finalized for camp
  • The camp is set to start on the 11th of March
  • The ODI and T20 squads are expected to be announced on the 17th of March
  • Camp for Test squad to be announced later
  • Emerging players camp at NCA set for 8th of March
 
Bet Rahat make the squad again and Ahmed Shehzad is kept out, don't expect anything new
 
Salman said:
Bet Rahat make the squad again and Ahmed Shehzad is kept out, don't expect anything new
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back to 2014 Kamran akmal opening with shehzad in t20 and odis while sohail tanvir opening the bowling in

t20 and wahab rubbish playing in the odis which is worse format for him .Sharjeel have

done huge blunder .Not intersted in these TTFs
 
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For God sake have this bowling attack for limited overs T20i: M.Sami,Rumman,Irfan and Wahab/Sohail.
Odis: M.Sami,W.Riaz,Amir and Junaid/Sohail.
 
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have they revealed the names yet.. if i see hafeez or k akmal.. my blood will boil..
 
todfod 11 said:
have they revealed the names yet.. if i see hafeez or k akmal.. my blood will boil..
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kamran akmal is certain for t2ois i am not he is fit enough for odis though hafeez will be in odi squad

not sure in t20 or test squad
 
These consultation and camp is just for show!!!! Squad has already set except Shehzad and Akmal for Sharjeel and Khalid (Worst replacement). Same squad which played against Australia and WI
 
At these camps, do they roast marshmallows over the fire...
 
I am going to foolishly hope that Inzi and Co dont just look at PSL but at also at the recent domestic performances.

The likes of Shahzaib - 177 in list A , Talat - 2 list A hundreds, average over 50 and Hammad - averaged 50 with bat in first class, should all at the very least be in the camp and under consideration for selection
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
I am going to foolishly hope that Inzi and Co dont just look at PSL but at also at the recent domestic performances.

The likes of Shahzaib - 177 in list A , Talat - 2 list A hundreds, average over 50 and Hammad - averaged 50 with bat in first class, should all at the very least be in the camp and under consideration for selection
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It's better to try new players.

I have no hope from Akmal
 
I hope PSL is not the ONLY barometer of selection for Inzi the revolutionary.

Seriously can't stand the possibility of a TTF like Kami returning to the natural side at the ripe old age of 35.
 
Syed1 said:
I hope PSL is not the ONLY barometer of selection for Inzi the revolutionary.

Seriously can't stand the possibility of a TTF like Kami returning to the natural side at the ripe old age of 35.
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nothing will stop that now, niether would any other cheif selector. Plus Kamran did perform in List A and first class. The test will be how much he will get and if they will also add him to odis.

My view is that Kamran has 4 t20s to kickstart his career. He has earnt them, but at his age and track record he shouldn't get anymore. If he performs well he stays, he if performs great, he should then and only then be called up to ODIs.

However Inzi being Inzi, i expect him to back Kamran till the CT and ignore the likes of Zaman/shazaib
 
Why is the camp so long? These guys need rest. You can have a camp from March 18-25 and then leave for WI. Not like it will have a large impact anyway.
 
will hasnain khan and shadab kabir make the squad. Inzi should know being so on the pulse on what is happening at domestic level
 
so we are going to see a 35 years old youngster making a comeback because he played well in 3 matches out of 10 matches in a t20 tournament. his success rate is 30% in psl and a tried and tested failure and only Allah knows how long he is going to play for pakistan.

does this camp include fitness check as well or its just as usual summer camp where players do some lame exercise.

whats the point if players going to be selected by phone calls without checking their fitness.
 
asma_cricfan said:
so we are going to see a 35 years old youngster making a comeback because he played well in 3 matches out of 10 matches in a t20 tournament. his success rate is 30% in psl and a tried and tested failure and only Allah knows how long he is going to play for pakistan.

does this camp include fitness check as well or its just as usual summer camp where players do some lame exercise.

whats the point if players going to be selected by phone calls without checking their fitness.
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Some sit ups, hi 5s and welcome back senior Sir, can I get you a cup of tea with your 20 run innings.
 
it's time we started operating on merit. kamran won best batsmen, best keeper, and man of tournament in psl. you can argue whether he deserved all those awards or not, but he still won them. performances like that deserve national recognition. it will show other players that if you play well, you will get a chance. yes there are hundreds of players that have played well in previous domestic tournaments and not gotten a chance, but now is the time to change all that. kamran should be recalled.
 
The way Shadab Khan spins his legspinner and googly is like Shane Warne..... we do have a Warne in Pakistan colours.... he should not be sent back to domestic..... rather should he picked for Pakistan NOW
 
Boycottisno2 said:
The way Shadab Khan spins his legspinner and googly is like Shane Warne..... we do have a Warne in Pakistan colours.... he should not be sent back to domestic..... rather should he picked for Pakistan NOW
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Looks miles ahead of Usama
 
This camp will be useless if we do not give chance to youngsters and go back to 35 plus misbah, hafeez, azhar, younis, yasir shah and akmals.
 
Kamran Akmal, Ahmad Shahzad called for training camp

The training camp for Pakistan’s upcoming tour of the West Indies will be held at the Gaddafi Stadium in Lahore from March 11, as per Express News.

The 25-member group’s fitness will be monitored by chief selector Inzamamul Haq and coach Mickey Arthur at the training camp before a final team for the Caribbean tour is announced on March 17.

The training camp will also include Kamran Akmal and Ahmad Shahzad, who seem to have mended their broken reputations with the selectors with impressive showings at the recently concluded Pakistan Super League (PSL).

Meanwhile, Shadab Khan, Hassan Khan, Hussain Talat and some other youngsters who have done well on the domestic circuit as well as the PSL have been asked to report on March 8 for the emerging players’ camp.

Pakistan will play four T20Is, three ODIs and three Test matches against the West Indies, with the seven-week tour kicking off in Barbados on March 26.

Earlier in the day, veteran batsman Misbahul Haq was retained as Pakistan’s Test team captain for the upcoming tour of the West Indies.

Speculation regarding Misbah’s future and captaincy had been rife ever since his team was whitewashed 3-0 in the series against Australia earlier this year.

However, the 42-year-old has decided to continue as the team leader for the tour of the Caribbean, with limited-overs skipper Sarfraz Ahmed being his understudy and vice-captain.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1347578/kamran-akmal-ahmad-shahzad-called-training-camp/
 
To be fair, whats the point of having domestic competitions such as the PSL if the top performing players in the competition will not be given a fair shot to break into the international team?
 
Speedster777 said:
This camp will be useless if we do not give chance to youngsters and go back to 35 plus misbah, hafeez, azhar, younis, yasir shah and akmals.
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what are you talking about..Shadab Needs 2 years under Aqib or Akram in these camps to turn himself into Warne. he looks average right now and he is only 18. He needs to play a lot of fc cricket. He is too raw. Misbah has already asked for Zulifqar's comeback. very sensible decision to utilize experience of Zulifqar.
 
Emerging camp is a bad idea. Its better to have youngsters training with our top players. They can learn much more training with better players. Shadab in emerging camp is like 17 year old Rooney training with reserves
 
So let`s try to make a list of 25 players

1. Kamran Akmal
2. Shoaib Malik
3. Ahmed Shahzad
4. Hassan Khan
5. Shadab Khan
6. Husain Talat
7. Fakhar zaman
8. Mohammad Sami
9. Rumman Raees
10. Younis Khan
11. Misbah ul Haq
12. Mohammad Hafeez
13. Mohammad Amir
14. Mohammad Irfan
15. Iftikhar Ahmad
16. Hasan Ali
17. Usama Mir
18. Sarfaraz Ahmed
19. Asad Shafiq
20. Yasir Shah
21. Azher Ali
22. Sami Aslam
23. Mohammad Rizwan
24. Imad Wasim
25. Mohammad Nawz

Still Missing Rahat Ali, Wahab Riaz, Junaid Khan so if we remove Husain Talat, Shadab, and Hassan as they are asked to join emerging camp these three faces we can assume will be there? so what did we get from PSL nothing? though we lost two players.

What do you say? Same pool of players with few different names which will be sidelined when 15 player squad is announced
 
Kami deserves selection. Best batsman in domestic tournaments and highest scorer at FC, best batsman of the PSL, there's no other criteria to select players. Don't let [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] fool you.


Ahmed Shehzad is as pathetic and poor as they come. Shouldn't play cricket for Pak.
 
Ifti deserves to be a part of all teams after his blistering knock of 14(21) in the final.
 
Hawkeye said:
Kami deserves selection. Best batsman in domestic tournaments and highest scorer at FC, best batsman of the PSL, there's no other criteria to select players. Don't let [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] fool you.


Ahmed Shehzad is as pathetic and poor as they come. Shouldn't play cricket for Pak.
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Two very contradictory statements...
 
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If Misbah can be retained as captain after poor batting and leading his team to consecutive defeats then we can't complain about TTFs returning.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Two very contradicting statements...
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I knew someone would say this. Shehzad s departmental cricket form wasn't good enough, and PSL was also average. Performing in 1 match at a good strike rate shouldn't be a factor for selection.

Especially if you haven't shown any evidence that you're different from earlier and have improved your technique, stance .
 
Hawkeye said:
I knew someone would say this. Shehzad s departmental cricket form wasn't good enough, and PSL was also average. Performing in 1 match at a good strike rate shouldn't be a factor for selection.

Especially if you haven't shown any evidence that you're different from earlier and have improved your technique, stance .
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Kamran scored heavily in PSL and FC.

Shehzad scored heavily in List A.

If you're going to be valuing domestic performances then you need to be consistent.

Shehzad in List A this season: 939 runs @ 85 with 4 hundreds, 4 fifties!!!

So Shehzad should be selected for ODIs and Kamran for T20s (don't think he will get a look in for Tests)? :najam
 
PCB selection committee mulls over emerging PSL stars selection

LAHORE: Pakistan Cricket Board’s selection committee is considering utilising the talent pool from the recently concluded Pakistan Super League (PSL) for the upcoming West Indies tour.

Various reports state that Lahore Qalandars batsman Fakhar Zaman, Islamabad United all-rounder Shadab Khan, Quetta Gladiators all-rounder Hassan Khan and Karachi Kings pacer Usman Khan Shinwari are being considered for inclusion in Pakistan’s squad.

Names of players from the domestic circuit such as Usman Salahuddin and Asif Zakir are also under discussion.

A training camp is scheduled for Tuesday where Pakistan’s head coach Mickey Arthur and board selectors would evaluate the player’s performances.

Ahmed Shehzad and Kamran Akmal, the batsman, wicket-keeper who grabbed three honours in the PSL 2017 are likely to be named in the squad for the Caribbean tour.

http://dailytimes.com.pk/sports/06-...ittee-mulls-over-emerging-psl-stars-selection
 
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Abdullah719 said:
Kamran scored heavily in PSL and FC.

Shehzad scored heavily in List A.

If you're going to be valuing domestic performances then you need to be consistent.

Shehzad in List A this season: 939 runs @ 85 with 4 hundreds, 4 fifties!!!

So Shehzad should be selected for ODIs and Kamran for T20s (don't think he will get a look in for Tests)? :najam
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What was the strike rate? :najam

One season, small sample set - not a great PSL, same old stance and strike rate issues.

Why would I recall him? I won't if I was the CS. :usman
 
Abdullah719 said:
Kamran scored heavily in PSL and FC.

Shehzad scored heavily in List A.

If you're going to be valuing domestic performances then you need to be consistent.

Shehzad in List A this season: 939 runs @ 85 with 4 hundreds, 4 fifties!!!

So Shehzad should be selected for ODIs and Kamran for T20s (don't think he will get a look in for Tests)? :najam
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What's the reason?? Why these guys perform heavily whenever they're playing domestic ?? and the usual domestic performers don't perform when playing with such players?
 
Hawkeye said:
What was the strike rate? :najam

One season, small sample set - not a great PSL, same old stance and strike rate issues.

Why would I recall him? I won't if I was the CS. :usman
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That's why you aren't :)))
They perform they come back . they fail in international they get kicked out..
The problem is others have given them a way to make a come back..
Sharjeel got greedy and Sami was unable to cement his place..
And in this season and the last too Shehzad performed heavily in list A so whether you or me like it or not he's gonna make a come back so instead of praying for his failure aka team failure let's hope these guys perform..
 
Hawkeye said:
What was the strike rate? :najam

One season, small sample set - not a great PSL, same old stance and strike rate issues.

Why would I recall him? I won't if I was the CS. :usman
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The argument you are applying against Shehzad can be applied to Kamran as well. He has plenty of weaknesses.

For comparison, Shehzad scored 939 in 14 List A matches at a SR of 99.89. Kamran scored 457 in 12 List A matches at a SR of 73.24. :shezzy
 
StreetSmart said:
So let`s try to make a list of 25 players

1. Kamran Akmal
2. Shoaib Malik
3. Ahmed Shahzad
4. Hassan Khan
5. Shadab Khan
6. Husain Talat
7. Fakhar zaman
8. Mohammad Sami
9. Rumman Raees
10. Younis Khan
11. Misbah ul Haq
12. Mohammad Hafeez
13. Mohammad Amir
14. Mohammad Irfan
15. Iftikhar Ahmad
16. Hasan Ali
17. Usama Mir
18. Sarfaraz Ahmed
19. Asad Shafiq
20. Yasir Shah
21. Azher Ali
22. Sami Aslam
23. Mohammad Rizwan
24. Imad Wasim
25. Mohammad Nawz

Still Missing Rahat Ali, Wahab Riaz, Junaid Khan so if we remove Husain Talat, Shadab, and Hassan as they are asked to join emerging camp these three faces we can assume will be there? so what did we get from PSL nothing? though we lost two players.

What do you say? Same pool of players with few different names which will be sidelined when 15 player squad is announced
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What were you expecting? 15 new players? Do you anything about the quality of our domestic players?

We should think God that we got done decent spinners from the psl and zaman as a half decent opener. This was all we were going to get. The pp hype machine had a lot of of things to say about amad and Yamin but like always, nothing to show for it.

How many times is sami going to make a comeback? Always performs in the domestic and gets smashed at international level only to go back and perform in the domestic..
 
MRSN said:
what are you talking about..Shadab Needs 2 years under Aqib or Akram in these camps to turn himself into Warne. he looks average right now and he is only 18. He needs to play a lot of fc cricket. He is too raw. Misbah has already asked for Zulifqar's comeback. very sensible decision to utilize experience of Zulifqar.
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Wut? Shadab is good as I've seen since Ajmal. The guy is special and should be brought in the team ASAP and I, for one hope he can't replicate his psl success on the international level too.

The only things that concerns me is that Nawaz too looks a very good spinner during psl and we all know how he gets treated at the international levels, hope Shadab isn't the same.
 
Shadab is a must because in lois nowadays who has variations.. ap Tahir ko dekh lo, Naraine ko dekh lo.

Nawaz doesn't have many variations. Shahdab has a brilliant googly. He should be the first one in our long term plans.
 
Why have a different camp for emerging players? Get them all in to the national team camp and have them bowl to the national players.
 
TalhaSyed said:
To be fair, whats the point of having domestic competitions such as the PSL if the top performing players in the competition will not be given a fair shot to break into the international team?
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:)) you must have pre-booked your tickets for the champions trophy in ENG with these two back, am getting nostalgia about the 2013 CT in England now can't wait for the summer :yk
 
Again Ahmed shahzad selfish player, I guarantee to all members, he will play again selfish innings to safe his career, he is most selfish player in history of Pakistan cricket
 
Moiza said:
Wut? Shadab is good as I've seen since Ajmal. The guy is special and should be brought in the team ASAP and I, for one hope he can't replicate his psl success on the international level too.

The only things that concerns me is that Nawaz too looks a very good spinner during psl and we all know how he gets treated at the international levels, hope Shadab isn't the same.
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the problem with relying too much on one tournament without a couple of seasons at least of consistent performance is precisely that - Nawaz was picked because of his performances last year in PSL1 and has been pretty much a failure - although ill admit I thought he would do well:

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/pakis..._wickets_career.html?id=10555;type=tournament
 
The likes of Rumman Raees, Shadab Khan, Hassan Khan and Usman Shinware should get a go against WI in T20's. Let's see who can perform at international level.
 
Windies will win at home. Still don't want Kamran A anywhere near the team and I am confident Sarfaraz will keep him away. Ahmed Shehzad is another disastrous recall. Then they say that Pak is full of new talent
 
These camps are just for show!!!! Knowing revolutionist Inzamam, loud mouth Micky and diplomat SK it will be same squad barring Sharjeel and Latif who will be replaced by Kakmal and Selfie.
 
So pretty much the 11 is settled now.

Ahmed Shehzad
Kamran Akmal
Babar Azam
Sarfaraz Ahmed
Shoaib Malik
Umar Akmal
Shadab Kabir Khan
Imad Waseem
Sohail Khan
Hasan Ali
M.Amir

I don't think there will be a change..
The rest of the squad will have
Usman Shinwari
M.Nawaz
Talat Hussain
M.Hafeez
 
Ellipsism said:
LAHORE: Pakistan Cricket Board’s selection committee is considering utilising the talent pool from the recently concluded Pakistan Super League (PSL) for the upcoming West Indies tour.

Various reports state that Lahore Qalandars batsman Fakhar Zaman, Islamabad United all-rounder Shadab Khan, Quetta Gladiators all-rounder Hassan Khan and Karachi Kings pacer Usman Khan Shinwari are being considered for inclusion in Pakistan’s squad.

Names of players from the domestic circuit such as Usman Salahuddin and Asif Zakir are also under discussion.

A training camp is scheduled for Tuesday where Pakistan’s head coach Mickey Arthur and board selectors would evaluate the player’s performances.

Ahmed Shehzad and Kamran Akmal, the batsman, wicket-keeper who grabbed three honours in the PSL 2017 are likely to be named in the squad for the Caribbean tour.

http://dailytimes.com.pk/sports/06-...ittee-mulls-over-emerging-psl-stars-selection
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Still 'considering'. Useless commiteez
 
Kashmiri_Pak_fan said:
why are 25 names not being revealed?
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That's a trick!!! So dumb fans like us will feel some promising players may be in that 25. But when they reveal the final 15 which will consist of Kamran, Hafeez, Irfan, Shafiq,Rahat, Nawaz, Shehzad.....
 
Recalling TTFs wow! pakistan loves recycling rubbish!
 
Shadab has the best googly in world cricket for sure. Playing with a quality legspinner in IU has definitely benefited him.

ALSO, I can't believe Asif Zakir will be there. In his last 4 LA innings, he has 2 ducks and a 9..
 
Moiza said:
What were you expecting? 15 new players? Do you anything about the quality of our domestic players?

We should think God that we got done decent spinners from the psl and zaman as a half decent opener. This was all we were going to get. The pp hype machine had a lot of of things to say about amad and Yamin but like always, nothing to show for it.

How many times is sami going to make a comeback? Always performs in the domestic and gets smashed at international level only to go back and perform in the domestic..
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Not 15 new players but at least 5 new players would have been better I know how the pool looks like in our domestic circuit problem is their exposure. Remember we got Sami Aslam, Babar Azam, Sharjeel from the same domestic circuit. So if they want they can do it better than seeing TTF`s in the team again and again and again
 
Abdullah719 said:
The argument you are applying against Shehzad can be applied to Kamran as well. He has plenty of weaknesses.

For comparison, Shehzad scored 939 in 14 List A matches at a SR of 99.89. Kamran scored 457 in 12 List A matches at a SR of 73.24. :shezzy
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Myth busted. So much for Kamran being an "explosive and dynamic" player.

When will the torture end ? When will we finally be shut of these two batsmen who epitomise mediocrity ?
 
shaz619 said:
:)) you must have pre-booked your tickets for the champions trophy in ENG with these two back, am getting nostalgia about the 2013 CT in England now can't wait for the summer :yk
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:)) Nah man - last time I went to both Pak v Scot games and the Pak v WI, Pak v SA, Pak v Ind and Final.

But this time due to Ramadan not got any plans :inzi
 
Shehzad deserves a recall. Will be interesting to see the squad when it's announced. Not going to get too emotional till I have seen the confirmed squad.
 
The statistical history of Kamran Akmal and Ahmed Shehzad suggest that they always perform just before any mega event in domestic circuit in flying colors and then fail big time at international level, Kamran Akmal failed against top teams in 2011 ODI world cup and 2012 & 2014 T20 WC after been excellent in domestic matches, similarly Ahmed Shehzad was below-average in 2011 and 2015 world cup against test teams and also was extremely poor in recent T20 WC held in India even though he was No.1 run-scorer in PSL 1 held just before that.

To conclude, some players can't take the pressure of international cricket, some of those are certified domestic bullies like Mark Ramprakash, Greame Hick, Ahmed Shehzad, Kamran Akmal, Hasan Raza and few more who remained domestic champions.
 
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