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What people don't realize is Pak atm has only two giant marketable guys in world cricket who have risen high due to their cricketing prowess rather than off field stuff.

1. Babar is the biggest cricket name in Pak Cricket among active cricketers.
2. Shaheen is the second biggest cricket name in Pak Cricket.


Apart from these two, only Shahid Afridi is a proper brand (the biggest after IK in Pak history) but he won't be playing this year.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
What people don't realize is Pak atm has only two giant marketable guys in world cricket who have risen high due to their cricketing prowess rather than off field stuff.

1. Babar is the biggest cricket name in Pak Cricket among active cricketers.
2. Shaheen is the second biggest cricket name in Pak Cricket.


Apart from these two, only Shahid Afridi is a proper brand (the biggest after IK in Pak history) but he won't be playing this year.
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Fakhar Zaman
Muhammad Harris
Shadab Khan
Harris Rauf

All are star performers
 
BunnyRabbit said:
What people don't realize is Pak atm has only two giant marketable guys in world cricket who have risen high due to their cricketing prowess rather than off field stuff.

1. Babar is the biggest cricket name in Pak Cricket among active cricketers.
2. Shaheen is the second biggest cricket name in Pak Cricket.


Apart from these two, only Shahid Afridi is a proper brand (the biggest after IK in Pak history) but he won't be playing this year.
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Shadab is right up there as well.
 
Rana said:
Better than Karachi King softies under Babar
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Good luck to your team!

Babar only captained KK once. Malik already had that gig in the first season. Even Shahid Afridi left KK after 1 season despite it being his city.

Mine has always been IU and will remain so.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
Good luck to your team!

Babar only captained KK once. Malik already had that gig in the first season. Even Shahid Afridi left KK after 1 season despite it being his city.

Mine has always been IU and will remain so.
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Well they were never this soft or terrible until Babar took over
 
Rana said:
Well they were never this soft or terrible until Babar took over
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They were terrible because they lost Aamir for the full season and their foreign picks were nothing short of shocking.

I realise there are agendas to keep to, but let’s not completely deny the facts
 
Rana said:
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Fakhar Zaman
Muhammad Harris
Shadab Khan
Harris Rauf

All are star performers
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Talking about bankable names. Babar and Shaheen are miles apart in terms of branding.

Shadab is probably at 3 but his star value will take some time to become as big as the other two.

Haris Rauf, love that guy. He's a star and has won a lot of matches and is charismatic too but he isn't at that level now.

Fakhar is a simple good natured guy with a very good sense of humor. Don't think he's interested in becoming a draw or doing stuff for sponsors.

Harris has only started. Played only a handful of games in PSL last year as well. His career is just starting.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
What people don't realize is Pak atm has only two giant marketable guys in world cricket who have risen high due to their cricketing prowess rather than off field stuff.

1. Babar is the biggest cricket name in Pak Cricket among active cricketers.
2. Shaheen is the second biggest cricket name in Pak Cricket.


Apart from these two, only Shahid Afridi is a proper brand (the biggest after IK in Pak history) but he won't be playing this year.
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You are talking too much logic, Babar to PZ is a huge win for the Zalmis and they did not have to give up too much. Some people can live in their delusions but Babar brings a massive brand name to the Zalmis.
 
Rana said:
Well they were never this soft or terrible until Babar took over
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That had more to do with their weird squad selections and volatile dressing room politics. Think everyone knows Imad and Amir don't like Babar anymore. Which is sad considering how close Imad and Babar used to be. Imad was like an elder brother to him.

They picked guys like Ian Cockbain, Tom Lammonby, Tom Abell (FC specialist), Jordan Thompson. What was anyone expecting with a squad like this?

Qasim Akram and Mir Hamza were the two good picks. Qasim has a bright future and will become a big cricketer IA while Mir Hamza was probably only selected for being from Karachi. But he adapted and rose to the challenge. Has toiled in domestic for years without getting any due from the selectors. Was good to see him doing well.
 
Gayle_Force said:
You are talking too much logic, Babar to PZ is a huge win for the Zalmis and they did not have to give up too much. Some people can live in their delusions but Babar brings a massive brand name to the Zalmis.
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Javed Afridi is a passionate cricket fan. Mohammad Akram as the director is a very organized guy with extremely good man management skills in addition to his cricketing and coaching acumen. Darren Sammy as the head coach will keep the atmosphere alive as he is someone who can bring life to the dullest of places.

PZ had a very weak core of players in last 2 years and was probably the weakest on paper but were only able to go as far due to some great leadership but this year they will be a team to follow.
 
The funny thing is seeing Mushfiqur Rahim and Gulbadin Naib's name in the list.

Mushfiq has said multiple times in the past that he will never tour Pak regardless of the security situation.

Gulbadin Naib was recently tweeting against Pakistan Cricket in Asia Cup and now expects to play in the same team with the people he dislikes.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
Javed Afridi is a passionate cricket fan. Mohammad Akram as the director is a very organized guy with extremely good man management skills in addition to his cricketing and coaching acumen. Darren Sammy as the head coach will keep the atmosphere alive as he is someone who can bring life to the dullest of places.

PZ had a very weak core of players in last 2 years and was probably the weakest on paper but were only able to go as far due to some great leadership but this year they will be a team to follow.
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Not big on Sammy as head-coach. That feels like another case of a guy getting a big job (and keeping it) just because he is friends with the owner.

But Mohammad Akram is by all accounts, a good coach who is especially good at grooming young talent. And this is not my opinion but the opinion of those who know him.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
That had more to do with their weird squad selections and volatile dressing room politics. Think everyone knows Imad and Amir don't like Babar anymore. Which is sad considering how close Imad and Babar used to be. Imad was like an elder brother to him.

They picked guys like Ian Cockbain, Tom Lammonby, Tom Abell (FC specialist), Jordan Thompson. What was anyone expecting with a squad like this?

Qasim Akram and Mir Hamza were the two good picks. Qasim has a bright future and will become a big cricketer IA while Mir Hamza was probably only selected for being from Karachi. But he adapted and rose to the challenge. Has toiled in domestic for years without getting any due from the selectors. Was good to see him doing well.
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Imad hasn't gone full snake yet. But I don't have much hope for him if he's going to be part of the 'brain-trust' of KK along with Malik and Amir.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I can't take too much credit for pointing out the obvious with a guy like Sharjeel. I think the people cheerleading him need to maybe re-examine if they even understand cricket anymore.
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Haha. I didn't know what we fans post on PP could prove decisive in making or breaking international careers. :yk
 
BunnyRabbit said:
Javed Afridi is a passionate cricket fan. Mohammad Akram as the director is a very organized guy with extremely good man management skills in addition to his cricketing and coaching acumen. Darren Sammy as the head coach will keep the atmosphere alive as he is someone who can bring life to the dullest of places.

PZ had a very weak core of players in last 2 years and was probably the weakest on paper but were only able to go as far due to some great leadership but this year they will be a team to follow.
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Yep PZ is by far the best managed team and their marketing acumen is just outstanding. This move not only helps the team but will bring a massive boost in fan following.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Imad hasn't gone full snake yet. But I don't have much hope for him if he's going to be part of the 'brain-trust' of KK along with Malik and Amir.
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I have actually been rather impressed with how Imad has conducted himself. Hasn't bad mouthed Babar in public. His gripe has mainly been with Powerpoint Selector. Amir on the other hand is just another story.

Sarfraz as well has maintained his integrity. Hasn't spoken a single word against Pak team or any player and has actually stayed away from media ever since he was axed from the side and captaincy. It's just that he is past his best as a player but I do believe he is a good guy. In the past, Malik, Yousaf, Rana Naved, Kamran, Razzaq etc were well known for their roles in oathgate. The attitude of Sarfraz and Imad has been pretty well composed.
 
Gayle_Force said:
Yep PZ is by far the best managed team and their marketing acumen is just outstanding. This move not only helps the team but will bring a massive boost in fan following.
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On the other hand, Javed bringing every female model/celeb in PZ is quite funny and silly.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
I agree on Roy’s form being underwhelming and that he can’t be the main guy right now, for any team. I think we are finally beginning to see an identity around PSL teams, even wrt foreign players. Just like a Kieron Pollard is MI through and through, similarly Roy is becoming similar for QG. I also believe that the lad has had a complete mare regarding his mental health in recent times and the PSL may finally be his chance to reignite his career ( similar to how the likes of Dawson have done).

I agree on others being able to pick Saim in an open draft. However, this is what I mean when I say that the draft is slightly skewed in that players can give verbal agreements to specific owners to want to play for them (see Hasan Ali wanting to go to ISLU only a few years ago). Similarly, players can tell prospective teams to not pick them as they’ll only play for a certain team. Again, I have no proof that this actually happens, but just reading the tea leaves here. Also you have to remember, they can always use their wildcard and pick Saim in the silver category, thereby gazumping other teams who were expecting to pick Saim in the emerging category. Granted, other teams can do the same.

Again, unfortunately I agree on Finch, but if they intend to pick Saim, then the smart pick is to go for Miller. The emerging player is the most important part of your team strategically, so it’s important to have a contributing one. Picking Saim means you’ve locked up an opener spot for 2 years atleast.
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You mentioned the identity part. And that's actually the area where I feel QG have failed badly. I mean, just about every team has been able to build an identity around certain players and a certain style of cricket. But if there are two teams that have failed badly in that area, it's KK and QG. And I think that's primarily because they have not invested in young players the way that their franchises have. In fact KK has probably done even worse in that area when you consider the names they have willingly let go from their franchise. QG have atleast held onto Nawaz and Hasnain.

That's a fairly plausible assertion. And I don't see much reason to doubt it. But here again, I would question the environment that franchise has built and the amount of confidence they have given to a particular player. I find it hard to believe that if a specific player has been told that the franchise has big plans for him for the future and sees him as a future star, that he would want to leave the franchise. Even during their tough phases, players need to be given confidence and support. I seriously question if every franchise does that. Especially for players who are young and not that well established but possess a certain level of talent that is quite evident.

I actually think that Miller would not be a particularly smart pick given his availability issues. But knowing QG they will probably pick him regardless because they are known to pick big names even if they are not fully available for the season.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Not big on Sammy as head-coach. That feels like another case of a guy getting a big job (and keeping it) just because he is friends with the owner.

But Mohammad Akram is by all accounts, a good coach who is especially good at grooming young talent. And this is not my opinion but the opinion of those who know him.
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We all know Sammy isn't going to coach PZ. Will be more like a mentor. The guy has 2 wt20s to his name that too leading guys from different countries with different temperaments and shepherding them along and getting the best out of them. He is a naturally vibrant guy. Hopefully Babar will learn something from him as well.

I think in hindsight, we downplay Sammy's role in bringing international cricket to Pak a lot. It could have been a faysalbank t20 final in 2017 that too a week or two after a blast. But Sammy was steadfast in his drive and dragged Jordan, Malan and Samuels alongside him to Lahore when he didn't have to. No one loves money more than his life. Whatever anyone says, I think Sammy really wanted to play in Pakistan and I don't begrudge any perks that have come alongside that for him in the long term.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
I have actually been rather impressed with how Imad has conducted himself. Hasn't bad mouthed Babar in public. His gripe has mainly been with Powerpoint Selector. Amir on the other hand is just another story.

Sarfraz as well has maintained his integrity. Hasn't spoken a single word against Pak team or any player and has actually stayed away from media ever since he was axed from the side and captaincy. It's just that he is past his best as a player but I do believe he is a good guy. In the past, Malik, Yousaf, Rana Naved, Kamran, Razzaq etc were well known for their roles in oathgate. The attitude of Sarfraz and Imad has been pretty well composed.
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Imad did take some thinly-veiled shots at Babar but nothing close to those other two snakes. As much as I hate Sarfraz, as a human being he has more dignity and grace than any of these toxic snakes. Time will tell if he too will become a part of the cabal of ex-cricketers that make a living off Pakistan losing. But for now atleast, that does not seem to be the case.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
We all know Sammy isn't going to coach PZ. Will be more like a mentor. The guy has 2 wt20s to his name that too leading guys from different countries with different temperaments and shepherding them along and getting the best out of them. He is a naturally vibrant guy. Hopefully Babar will learn something from him as well.

I think in hindsight, we downplay Sammy's role in bringing international cricket to Pak a lot. It could have been a faysalbank t20 final in 2017 that too a week or two after a blast. But Sammy was steadfast in his drive and dragged Jordan, Malan and Samuels alongside him to Lahore when he didn't have to. No one loves money more than his life. Whatever anyone says, I think Sammy really wanted to play in Pakistan and I don't begrudge any perks that have come alongside that for him in the long term.
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Eh I dunno about that. Tough to feel sympathy for a guy who was paid boatloads of cash just to play one T20 match. I credit that much more to Sethi, the PCB and the state for making it possible despite the public s**tting all over the idea and the match being, more or less, a farce.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Imad did take some thinly-veiled shots at Babar but nothing close to those other two snakes. As much as I hate Sarfraz, as a human being he has more dignity and grace than any of these toxic snakes. Time will tell if he too will become a part of the cabal of ex-cricketers that make a living off Pakistan losing. But for now atleast, that does not seem to be the case.
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Imad is a smart individual. He comes from a well off family. Have met him a few times. Actually one time, Babar was with him as well and was staying at Imad's place.

I don't hate Sarfraz, I just think he has genuine temperament issues. But he is gracious enough to know how to not react. I don't think the hoard of Karachi lobby vying for his consistent selection is his idea either. That lobby containing names like Yahya, Naseem Rajput, Waheed Khan, Shoaib Jatt etc simply love to use Sarfraz' exclusion as their agenda to criticize Pakistan Cricket. These guys are the same people who glorify Amir and Malik.

Sarfraz has kept himself to playing domestic cricket without creating any drama. He's been playing all formats since his sacking and hasn't complained once publicly. If Sarfraz were to turn into those kind of individuals, he would already have done so knowing his international career is very much over.
 
Daniel Sams in the Diamond category is a pretty good pick.

Same goes for Theekshana, James Vince, Michael Rippon and Fabian Allen (if available).

I reckon someone will pick up Sikander Raza too given the red-hot form he has been in.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Eh I dunno about that. Tough to feel sympathy for a guy who was paid boatloads of cash just to play one T20 match. I credit that much more to Sethi, the PCB and the state for making it possible despite the public s**tting all over the idea and the match being, more or less, a farce.
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If it were possible, Rossouw, Luke Wright, Kp etc would have agreed to play one match as well. Only one team's entire roster came to Pak, while the other one had to bring in 4 new names of much lesser quality. So there was definitely something that was done right by PZ. Tbh I was scared as well cause the situation wasn't ideal to hold a cricket match with big crowd where an attack on a cricket team had already happened before.
 
Quetta almost got babar, sarfraz was ready to give up captaincy for him. Nadeem Omar told. They might had given away Naseem shah.

Wow what a deal that would had been, but it didn't go through. Wonder if it was because of kk or babar
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Daniel Sams in the Diamond category is a pretty good pick.

Same goes for Theekshana, James Vince, Michael Rippon and Fabian Allen (if available).

I reckon someone will pick up Sikander Raza too given the red-hot form he has been in.
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Wish dual nationals could be picked as locals. would only boost the quality.
 
The funniest thing would be KK buying Mushfiq and have Malik, Amir, Mushfiq, Imad, Sharjeel and Wasim Akram doing a nagan dance after a victory. :cobra
 
ElRaja said:
is that the fake shaun tait that tweets like an excited fan but ppl still retweet?
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Yes - the fake Tait is getting more limelight than the real Tait who has been invisible in this tournament.
 
Generally curious here lads, is it nailed on that Kamran Akmal is going to Karachi? I would have liked them to have picked a younger keeper like Shawaiz Irfan or Saad Baig, but alas.

I’m also afraid that Qasim Akram may get lost in the shuffle at KK. He should come in at 4 for KK, but will come in at 5 or lower because Shoaib Malik will play at 4 and the foreign finisher will come above Qasim as well.

On a positive note, very interesting that PZ have picked Aamir Jamal as a ‘Brand Ambassador’. Looks like Aamir will get a consistent role at the No.6/No.7 position for the whole of PSL, which will only spotlight him more. They’ll also surely use their right to retain card for Abrar. Good planning by PZ.
 
Spot on! Absolutely no thought process or vision
He follows what Sarfraz the parrot regurgitates to him
 
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