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Rising crime in the UK

So it seems we are in agreement, and reject shortbread's simplistic shifting of the blame to immigrant communities.

Also I don't have much first hand knowledge of London suffice three years at university, I don't know if it is immigrant community or the second/third generation of immigrant communities, so not strictly immigrants. Fresh immigrants are more interested in working hard. I guess its the sorta people involved in London Riots.
 
There are less police on the streets, less resources to deal with organised crime, less resources to do community interventions, less money for youth services. All in the 5-6th richest country in the world. Crime is going up nationally! London being the financial ehart will see a spike but its going up everywhere. The less cops you have on the beat the more brazen the crooks get. Two tried to break into my neighbours house at 6 o clock in the evening!!! that is brazen! one of my work colleagues is a CPS and goes out with the police. They are doing way more than they can manage. Its getting worse day by day becasue the govt has an ideology it is obsessed with.

Austerity wasn't by choice and the Cons. did not bring about the economic downfall. Rest assured things are only going to go south from here irrespective of Hammond's boisterous claims in the last budget. It was simply a sound byte and Cons. will keep tightening on free hand outs.

Blaming austerity will not help resolve the issue.
 
Police Scotland link robbery rise with UK benefits changes

Police Scotland has claimed UK government benefit changes may be linked to a rise in robberies.

A force report said welfare reform, including the introduction of universal credit, may have helped push robberies up by 30% over the five-year average.

There were 880 robberies throughout Scotland between April and June, an increase of 12% on the previous summer.

The Department for Work and Pensions said there was "no firm evidence" to link any trends to changes in welfare.

All 13 Police Scotland divisions produced "robbery problem profiles" as part of its overall crime report for April to September.

It said robberies were up by 8.4% (68 crimes) on the previous year and up 23.3% (166 crimes) on the five-year average.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-46327838
 
So what do you attribute as the main motivation for crime in London?

Crime is generally a consequence / reflection of the economic state of the county and in big cities you will always find more problems. On the positive side, gang culture has declined in brum that was a big issue during early 2000s. Doesn't matter on the location but inner cities all around the UK face similar issues relative to the size of their area.
 
Crime is generally a consequence / reflection of the economic state of the county and in big cities you will always find more problems. On the positive side, gang culture has declined in brum that was a big issue during early 2000s. Doesn't matter on the location but inner cities all around the UK face similar issues relative to the size of their area.

I said something similar in post #47, but since shortbread introduced immigration as a factor - which it is in successful western countries - the discussion has expanded with brown sahibs making some key points.
 
I said something similar in post #47, but since shortbread introduced immigration as a factor - which it is in successful western countries - the discussion has expanded with brown sahibs making some key points.

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Beyond that anyhow, wont rule that out completely but on the whole the points we made in our posts are probably a lot more significant
 
:))

Beyond that anyhow, wont rule that out completely but on the whole the points we made in our posts are probably a lot more significant

Which brown sahibs in particular? Hope you don't mean me, I said perhaps the 2nd or 3rd or even 4th generation of immigrants, they are not immigrants now are they? Not all immigrants are brown, not all brown people are immigrants, now this sentence might have been superfluous.

I even state that fresh immigrants usually work hard.

I suppose a fairer point would be brown sahibs who voted for Brexit.

I see that you are easily amused.

What points did you make? Run them by me again.
 
Which brown sahibs in particular? Hope you don't mean me, I said perhaps the 2nd or 3rd or even 4th generation of immigrants, they are not immigrants now are they? Not all immigrants are brown, not all brown people are immigrants, now this sentence might have been superfluous.

I even state that fresh immigrants usually work hard.

I suppose a fairer point would be brown sahibs who voted for Brexit.

I see that you are easily amused.

What points did you make? Run them by me again.

Somebody is feeling insecure :yk2 talk about getting worked up for nothing, also I was responding to Rishwat, one of the human beings on this great forum.
 
Somebody is feeling insecure :yk2 talk about getting worked up for nothing, also I was responding to Rishwat, one of the human beings on this great forum.

It was meant for Cap E Tan, sorry you were collateral, he runs away too often when the going gets tough. At least you respond, not nicely sometimes but you do respond.
 
It was meant for Cap E Tan, sorry you were collateral, he runs away too often when the going gets tough. At least you respond, not nicely sometimes but you do respond.

It's Sunday evening, perhaps he has other plans :yk You don't expect everyone to be signed in 24/7 do you outside Indian posters who are all unemployed
 
Not that bad, it just gets a lot more coverage cos of social media. I grew up in Hackney when the murder rate in London was almost double what it has been for the last few years.

Every year someone in my school was either killed, or injured terribly in scuffles, knife fights, etc. There was no coverage, no one cared, and it never made the news.

Fortunately the worse off in London have more of a voice now, so when we see an uptick in crime the story reaches those normally untouched by it.

having said that London in general has become a lot more safer as youngsters just dont hang out on streets like they used to pre social meeds.

also a lot of the youngers got over the postcode stupidity as the London identity, especially for ethnic minorities, has become a stronger over the last 10 odd years, IMHO.
 
It's Sunday evening, perhaps he has other plans :yk You don't expect everyone to be signed in 24/7 do you outside Indian posters who are all unemployed

I'm signed in 24/7 just easier. Also I am collected screenshots of debate to perhaps potentially include in a youtube channel or Facebook or both. This is work for me. I want child indoctrination to be at least recognised. Thanks for your time.
 
Gang culture?

So we are agreed that this is the most likely reason. Cap E Tan, hope you had a good Sunday traipsing round historical churches, as is your want but can you kindly address some points in various threads where you attempt hit and run but there is no hit, just run.

So gang culture. Who comprises these gangs, definitely not fresh immigrants, I would have thought.
 
having said that London in general has become a lot more safer as youngsters just dont hang out on streets like they used to pre social meeds.

I remember a story where murder occurred because of an argument that originated on WhatsApp.
 
So we are agreed that this is the most likely reason. Cap E Tan, hope you had a good Sunday traipsing round historical churches, as is your want but can you kindly address some points in various threads where you attempt hit and run but there is no hit, just run.

So gang culture. Who comprises these gangs, definitely not fresh immigrants, I would have thought.

Ok, let's examine gang culture if we agree that it is a major factor in crime, something I think we can agree on. What in your opinion is driving the rise in gang culture? I have my own views but would like to hear yours first.
 
Ok, let's examine gang culture if we agree that it is a major factor in crime, something I think we can agree on. What in your opinion is driving the rise in gang culture? I have my own views but would like to hear yours first.

I don't live in London and a few decades older than those involved, I don't know enough bar my first comment on this thread regarding that London will go thru the same arc as some major American cities.

Please enlighten me with your views.
 
I don't live in London and a few decades older than those involved, I don't know enough bar my first comment on this thread regarding that London will go thru the same arc as some major American cities.

Please enlighten me with your views.

I will do, but since this is your theory I think you should go first. I hope your not waiting for input from me, then going to claim these ideas as your own, I know a few people like that and I try to avoid them as much as possible.
 
I will do, but since this is your theory I think you should go first. I hope your not waiting for input from me, then going to claim these ideas as your own, I know a few people like that and I try to avoid them as much as possible.

You take up too much if time, everyone needs spoon feeding here, already told ya don't know much as I don't live in London, not my age group, carry in the conversation with yourself, you usually don't address any points anyway. I leave you to it.
 
I will do, but since this is your theory I think you should go first. I hope your not waiting for input from me, then going to claim these ideas as your own, I know a few people like that and I try to avoid them as much as possible.

Not waiting for any input if you don't want to input. I don't think you have ever had an original thought let alone idea. Lol
 
You take up too much if time, everyone needs spoon feeding here, already told ya don't know much as I don't live in London, not my age group, carry in the conversation with yourself, you usually don't address any points anyway. I leave you to it.

Not really your scene this is it? You and your mate Azmi should stick to spamming the forum with your page long essays on the fallacies of Islam, this one needs some actual consideration rather than cut and paste from the dedicated self-flagellation sites.
 
Not really your scene this is it? You and your mate Azmi should stick to spamming the forum with your page long essays on the fallacies of Islam, this one needs some actual consideration rather than cut and paste from the dedicated self-flagellation sites.

Well I don't want to point out what isn't your scene.
 
The fact that you think Delhi and Bengaluru are sleepy shows just how ignorant you are of the real world.

Well he lives in a world where he is a Captain, says it all.

How exactly unsleepy are Delhi and Benglaru? For want of a question to go along with the observation above.
 
London is a huge metropolis, the larger the economy, the more crime you will get. The two most civilised and dynamic countries in the world would be Britain and the USA, and they also attract the crime due to the open and creative nature of the societies cultivated.

Would you call USA among the most civilised? Maybe parts of the East and West Coast, bar the White House would rate civilised. There are large parts that still believe that Earth is 6000 years old and literally believe in the Bible as the word of God!! Civilised??

Lets forget about France or Germany or the Scandanavian countries (some of which I would say where the most civilised, if such a silly list was constructed).

Can you tell me any other similarities between UK and USA , other than the open and creative nature which you mention, which might not be present in France, Germany, Sweden or Norway?
 
British citizenship can include foreigners born and raised abroad who have not inculcated the true essence of British culture and civilisation. Those of us who have been born and brought up here midst the gentle clang of church bells and treading lightly on the dew of the morning grass are of sons of this green and pleasant land.

The British satirical magazine Private Eye has for years run a column titled “Pseud’s Corner”, where pomposity, pretentiousness and pseudo-intellectualism in writing (hence Pseud’s Corner) is reprinted without comment for the reader to smile at and inwardly mock.
 
Ok, let's examine gang culture if we agree that it is a major factor in crime, something I think we can agree on. What in your opinion is driving the rise in gang culture? I have my own views but would like to hear yours first.

So according to you, it's either the hands off approach adopted by police in inner city areas, it is austerity, it's the open nature of creative dynamic civilisations such as UK and USA and now you agree it is gang culture, something I alluded to in my very first post on this thread. What's driving gang culture? More gang members? The communities supplying the gang members are young, in the sense that a lot of that particular community would have way way above average of say 12 to 18 year olds.

Hope your not waiting for input from me, then going to claim these ideas as your own, I know a few people like that and I try to avoid them as much as possible.

Hmm then as you came round to agree with me that the main reason was gang culture, you wanna be avoiding yourself.

And before you say you were the first to mention gang culture via mention of the American city of Baltimore and accuse me of stealing your idea (like as if two people can't have the same thought which originated independently), lemme tell you that even then you don't mention gang culture, (Not that I read that post in the first place)you mention the hands off approach the police adopted in Baltimore as seen on The Wire.

Of course I will say that I have not read every post of yours, which I will endeavour to do now to avoid this situation (the one you imagined, not what is) where I might agree with you, I mean even a stopped clock is right twice a day. That broken clock has a better track record than you.
 
For whom the bells toll, easy like Sunday morning, looking forward to Sunday roast? You are Kapoor/Cooper from Goodness Gracious Me, I claim my five pounds.

Meanwhile I just had my version of a Sunday roast.
 
For whom the bells toll, easy like Sunday morning, looking forward to Sunday roast? You are Kapoor/Cooper from Goodness Gracious Me, I claim my five pounds.

Meanwhile I just had my version of a Sunday roast.

Looks like someone forgot to take their meds today?
 
Back to topic.....

Police Officer stabbed outside Ilford station

London BLOODBATH: ‘Society breakdown’ Top cop fury as ‘one of our own’ is stabbed

POLICE OFFICERS have reacted with fury after “one of their own” was the latest victim in an “epidemic” of “senseless acts of violence”, as knife crime continues to strike the capital.

A police officer was brutally attacked in an unprovoked stabbing outside Ilford station in East London at 21:45 on Friday evening. The policeman was rushed to hospital for treatment, but his injuries are not believed to be life-threatening. Metropolitan Police Federation chairman Ken Marsh has called for officers to be given more support following the unprovoked attack.

He has previously warned of a "breakdown in society" after two officers were attacked as they tried to arrest a suspect in Hackney.

Mr Marsh sent a heartfelt message to the injured policeman, saying: "He's one of our own, it doesn't matter if you're British Transport Police (BTP) or Met or whatever.

"My heart and feelings go out to him and his family - we don't want any of our colleagues not coming home."

BTP Federation chairman Nigel Goodband said his fellow officer was lucky his colleagues were nearby to restrain the attacker.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...er-stabbed-outside-ilford-station-east-london
 
Looks like someone forgot to take their meds today?

Lol, thank you for reminding me, I had but that's not the reason why I thought today was Sunday, I hope that unlike you, Cap E Tan tackles the more substantive parts of my post.

Well spotted, no wonder you are called Eagle Eye.
 
Lol, thank you for reminding me, I had but that's not the reason why I thought today was Sunday, I hope that unlike you, Cap E Tan tackles the more substantive parts of my post.

Well spotted, no wonder you are called Eagle Eye.

Not going to happen until later in the day, it would take an essay from my part to answer your random musings which are going off in all directions. I might have a go this evening, but in all honesty I don't think I can be bothered so keep an eye on the thread but don't pin your hopes on it.
 
Not really your scene this is it? You and your mate Azmi should stick to spamming the forum with your page long essays on the fallacies of Islam, this one needs some actual consideration rather than cut and paste from the dedicated self-flagellation sites.

Does it. Does it really? You first consideration was to cite The Wire and say that the police were taking a hands off approach, I think that was your first post. I must say a sterling example of actual consideration. Jolly good show, what, I say jolly good show.

You display a logical fallacy of sorts, the Ad Hominem, attacking the poster and not the post. Tally ho.

It's not Islam that has the fallacies, it is the people arguing for it do so using logical fallacies. Do keep up, Perkins.

Dedicated self-flagellation sites. I don't know about Azmi but I aint Shi'ite, i think you are tho.
 
Not going to happen until later in the day, it would take an essay from my part to answer your random musings which are going off in all directions. I might have a go this evening, but in all honesty I don't think I can be bothered so keep an eye on the thread but don't pin your hopes on it.

If it was down to me, I wouldn't bother, I've had my fill of fun. Toodle-pip.
 
So according to you, it's either the hands off approach adopted by police in inner city areas, it is austerity, it's the open nature of creative dynamic civilisations such as UK and USA and now you agree it is gang culture, something I alluded to in my very first post on this thread. What's driving gang culture? More gang members? The communities supplying the gang members are young, in the sense that a lot of that particular community would have way way above average of say 12 to 18 year olds.



Hmm then as you came round to agree with me that the main reason was gang culture, you wanna be avoiding yourself.

And before you say you were the first to mention gang culture via mention of the American city of Baltimore and accuse me of stealing your idea (like as if two people can't have the same thought which originated independently), lemme tell you that even then you don't mention gang culture, (Not that I read that post in the first place)you mention the hands off approach the police adopted in Baltimore as seen on The Wire.

Of course I will say that I have not read every post of yours, which I will endeavour to do now to avoid this situation (the one you imagined, not what is) where I might agree with you, I mean even a stopped clock is right twice a day. That broken clock has a better track record than you.

Amongst all that bilge, I'm not sure if there was any salient point, most of it was just a ramble about some previous posts of mine somewhere along the line, something about Baltimore and the Wire.

Other than that you seemed to be pushing a theory about some communities having more 12-18 year olds than others. Is that your main contention? Too many young people at the age where they can't help but become gangsters?
 
Amongst all that bilge, I'm not sure if there was any salient point, most of it was just a ramble about some previous posts of mine somewhere along the line, something about Baltimore and the Wire.

Other than that you seemed to be pushing a theory about some communities having more 12-18 year olds than others. Is that your main contention? Too many young people at the age where they can't help but become gangsters?

I'm done on this thread, I haven't got a dog. It's a factor, a spike in the number if young people, the other issues have always been there, to a lesser or greater sense. Hence my analogy with some American cities, numbers game. Gets worse before it gets better.

Now I'm done.
 
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...eval-life-in-the-capital-was-murder-kv7dfcfjs

Sin city: why medieval life in the capital was murder

Londoners visiting the branch of Argos on Cheapside today should consider themselves fortunate. In medieval times it was one of the most murderous places in the capital.

A “murder map” based on research of coroners’ records suggests that the stretch of road between St Paul’s Cathedral and St Mary-le-Bow was a hotbed of violence, especially on Sunday evenings. There were stabbings, including one arising from a hot-tempered game of backgammon, and a vicious attack prompted by an act of littering.

Roger Styward was found dead on August 15, 1326 after being beaten by Simon de Peckham, a shopkeeper who became enraged to find him dropping eel skins outside his premises.

Another dispute that turned deadly was on May 3, 1324, when a householder was irritated by a minstrel’s balladeering. Thomas of Lyn, a furrier, seized a door bar with the intention of killing Thomas Somer. He hit the musician on the head but became the victim when Somer drew a knife and stabbed him.

The research of crimes between 1300 and 1340 by Manuel Eisner, of the University of Cambridge, said that the chance of being killed in the city was 15 to 20 times higher than in an equivalent-sized town today, although it is difficult to make a direct comparison.

“We have firearms, but we also have emergency services,” Professor Eisner said. “It’s easier to kill but easier to save lives. Over 18 per cent of victims survived at least a week after the initial trauma, probably dying eventually from infections or blood loss.”

The map, available on the website of the Violence Research Centre at the university, features 142 killings. More than two thirds of them took place in the streets and markets. Although there were two recorded in brothels, it was more dangerous to attend churches, where six took place.

Professor Eisner, said that cities were more peaceful now. The decline in the homicide rate, he said, “led to the pacified spaces that were essential for the rise of urban life and civility in Europe”.

Seems like London was fairly chaotic in terms of crime even before the advent of immigration. Would love to hear our Indian chum shortbread's views on how this can have been the case?
 
Seems like London was fairly chaotic in terms of crime even before the advent of immigration. Would love to hear our Indian chum shortbread's views on how this can have been the case?

Hahaha..... you had to go 7 centuries back to find a report that says this? Anyways the time and effort spent is appreciated.

What I said is simply my opinion and in no way imposing this as being correct on others, it was a discussion. I have migrant roots and the qualities of which has only held us in good stead in many ways.

U do not have to go so far back to find crime and murder in the capital. The Fenian/IRA attacks were commonplace till a few decades back, close family was witness to one such event. Crime families existed in London and still do, notorious names like Kary twins, Richardsons, Adams etc. Organised crime was always part of the city.

But in the last few decades until now; it was never so random, unimpeded and more importantly an issue that impact the general public. The thefts, attacks or killings are open and brazen, the culprits aren't hardened criminals but youngsters who should be in school. There is no fear of the law or respect for humans in general. News reports openly quote words like Mali boys, Albanians, Somali gangs ...... even the BBC decided to pick on a particular religion and race in relation to armed police shooting and killing a criminal, for which a thread already exists. So I am not the one being discriminatory here.

Neither do I think such a culture has British roots nor do I agree that austerity is driving this, this is my opinion. Anyone can disagree and reason otherwise.
 
Hahaha..... you had to go 7 centuries back to find a report that says this? Anyways the time and effort spent is appreciated.

What I said is simply my opinion and in no way imposing this as being correct on others, it was a discussion. I have migrant roots and the qualities of which has only held us in good stead in many ways.

U do not have to go so far back to find crime and murder in the capital. The Fenian/IRA attacks were commonplace till a few decades back, close family was witness to one such event. Crime families existed in London and still do, notorious names like Kary twins, Richardsons, Adams etc. Organised crime was always part of the city.

But in the last few decades until now; it was never so random, unimpeded and more importantly an issue that impact the general public. The thefts, attacks or killings are open and brazen, the culprits aren't hardened criminals but youngsters who should be in school. There is no fear of the law or respect for humans in general. News reports openly quote words like Mali boys, Albanians, Somali gangs ...... even the BBC decided to pick on a particular religion and race in relation to armed police shooting and killing a criminal, for which a thread already exists. So I am not the one being discriminatory here.

Neither do I think such a culture has British roots nor do I agree that austerity is driving this, this is my opinion. Anyone can disagree and reason otherwise.

I didn't go 7 centuries back, that story was actually published in today's paper, and as it was very relevant to this topic I thought it provided some fascinating insight.

The immigrant angle you are pushing may well have some significance, but if you are talking about the last few decades, do you not think that the glamorisation of violence and crime may also have some influence? It is in this time after all, that movies like the Godfather, superhit tv shows like The Wire and The Sopranos have captivated audiences and created anti-heroes that many of today's younger generations admire. Not to mention offer a shortcut to the lifestyle of the rich and famous which many underachievers could never hope to have otherwise.
 
I agree with your lifestyle shortcut theory.

That's more capitalism fault than media. Art imitates life, not the other way round. Capitalism preys on our chimp/human nature of greed.

Also lots of 12-18 year olds, first or it second generation communities adds to it.
 
Whenever the press focus on one aspect of crime - it seems like a new phenomenon. Do you have year-on-year data to demonstrate that the current wave is significantly outside the normal range?
We appeared to have had such a "tsunami" in Jan- Feb when the murder rate in London exceeded New York. The press really went into hysterics, including even the broadsheets. Apocalypse Now!! All settled down and I am sure that when the numbers are fully totted up at the end of the year, we will be back to usual and that 2 month stretch will have been no more than a temporary statistical incongruity.
Oh and I live in a (statistically) "more violent" part of london. Doesn't feel any different this year.

BUMP
After much froth & frenzy over the "surging" crime rate in my town & speculation over possible causes we can finally look at the data for the year.
To date there have been 130 murders this year in London. That's 14 more than last year! What a biblical deluge. NOT. And for all those press reports stating london now more violent than NY? Phooey. NY had 147 murders by the end of June. I await the full years data. So, the Jan/Feb london figures were a statistical blip - as I had confidently predicted above.
And as for the actual numbers in london - probably most people do not know that there were between 170 - 220 murders here every year between 2000 - 2006. Then the rate dropped every year till 2014 to around 100, before rising again slightly.
Perhaps my learned fellow posters can now speculate about both the fall & the rise.
Since I am holidaying in India at present & it is nearly midnight, I will catch up tomorrow morning.
 
132 dead in London Violence till 30th Dec. The highest in a decade!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46530919

This is the problem with selective statistics that ignoramuses in the press use to worry people and write stupid headlines.

The average murder rate in London for the past 20 years is 144 per year. Over the last 10 years that has dropped slightly to 115 per year. So 132 murders in 2018 very much in the statistically average range. I wish people would take the time to study & understand basic variability in such trends.

Meanwhile my family & I have lived an untroubled life in inner london since 1991. All of us are much more likely to be killed or seriously injured in a traffic accident than by crime.

happy New year to all PPers
 
Jaden Moodie: 'Chances missed' to protect boy groomed by dealers

A boy who was "butchered" in a drugs turf war after being groomed by drug dealers had been arrested in a crack den months earlier but police did not contact child exploitation staff, a report has found.

Jaden Moodie was 14 when he was knocked off his moped and stabbed to death in east London in January 2019.

A serious case review found chances to protect him were missed by agencies.

Ayoub Majdouline was jailed in December for his murder.

Jaden's family said they agreed with "many of the findings" of the report.

The family's lawyer, Alice Hardy, said the report showed Jaden "was failed by the system".

"Jaden was both homeless and out of school at the time of his death, both of which could have been prevented," she said.

"The report shows there is no effective system in place to respond and help children at risk from exploitation through county lines."

Three months before his death, Jaden was found with an older boy in a flat in Bournemouth known to be used by county lines drug gangs with 39 wraps of crack cocaine, two packets of cocaine, a mobile phone and £325 in cash.

According to the review, the appropriate adult who sat in on his police interview said he appeared to be "a vulnerable young person frightened by what he was being groomed and coerced into by others".

He gave the impression that "he definitely wanted to find a way out of the mess he was getting into", they said.

Following his release, two Dorset Police officers drove him home to London but did not involve specialist child exploitation workers.

A spokesman for the force said it "liaised and worked with the family and social services in Waltham Forest and Dorset to find the best solution to returning Jaden home".

"The most viable solution at that time was for Dorset Police to safely escort him home to his family," he said.

In the 12 months to August 2019, Dorset Police found 36 children from London in Bournemouth in similar circumstances to Jaden.

Jaden's school in Waltham Forest was not told about the arrest but excluded him for a separate incident.

At the time of his death Jaden was living with his grandmother in Leyton.

His mother, Jada Bailey, had been sleeping on friends' sofas while she waited to be rehoused.

She had told housing officers she was trying to keep her son out of trouble and was keen to find somewhere for them to live in Waltham Forest, the report said.

She was allocated a flat two weeks before Jaden was stabbed to death.

The review found Ms Bailey and Jaden's housing needs "could have been handled in a timelier manner", especially as his vulnerability to exploitation became clear.

Jaden's father Julian Moodie was convicted of drug dealing in 2009 and deported to Jamaica a year later, when Jaden was a young boy.

He began getting into trouble after starting secondary school in Nottingham in 2015, the report said.

He ran away from home, was accused of bullying and Ms Bailey was threatened at knifepoint when someone came looking for Jaden.

The report said Jaden had only spent three of his last 22 months in school.

In November 2018, he was excluded from school in Waltham Forest after he was seen in a Snapchat video in his school uniform holding what appeared to be a gun.

Jaden pleaded guilty in court to possession of an imitation firearm in a public place.

By the end of December Jaden had been offered a place at a pupil referral unit and had committed social workers and youth offending workers trying to help him.

But "tragically none of these people were provided with that opportunity", the report concluded.

The review was led by John Drew, the former chief executive of the Youth Justice Board for England and Wales.

Mr Drew highlighted poor communication between Waltham Forest Council's social services, Dorset Police and the Met Police.

He called for a national system for responding to exploitation of children by county lines gangs, saying that every area needs a "rescue and response" system to protect young people.

Mr Drew concluded that "no-one knew how little time" there was to change Jaden's thinking.

Jaden's death "could not have been anticipated on the basis of what was known about [his] life at that time", Mr Drew said.

"So while it is clear that [Jaden] was not protected either by the council, or its partners, or by any other person, from the ultimate danger that engulfed him, I do not find any major fault in the response to his circumstances."

Leader of Waltham Forest Council, Clare Coghill, called the report "an excellent piece of work".

The council has "taken on board all of the recommendations", she said.

"We really hope the government takes on board the recommendations in relation to county lines. We need co-ordination and leadership form central government," she said.

A spokeswoman for the Met Police said: "Our thoughts and sympathies remain with Jaden's family.

"While no specific recommendations have been made for the Met Police, we continue to work closely with Waltham Forest Safeguarding Children's Board to ensure we are communicating and working with all other agencies in the best possible way to safeguard vulnerable children in the borough."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-52804334
 
There could be a significant increase in violent crime fuelled by gang rivalries on social media which may spill on to the streets when lockdown rules are lifted, a senior police officer has warned.

John Apter, chairman of the Police Federation of England and Wales, said social media sites "have been a breeding ground" for gangs to taunt each other.

"We are very much aware of the pressure cooker that has developed when it comes to gang members who want to create mayhem when this lockdown is eased," he said.

"My real genuine fear is that some scores are going to be settled and that will mean more people being hurt or, god forbid, being murdered on our streets."

Fearing a rise in stabbings and shootings, Mr Apter said although crime levels in England and Wales have fallen by more than a quarter during the pandemic, a surge in gang violence linked to county lines may escalate tensions.

The Metropolitan Police has launched a blitz on gang activity and has created new "violence suppression units" to deal with the predicted surge.

Mr Apter said: "We have never been in this situation before so I think it's not unreasonable to say that the level of crime which we have seen reduce will significantly increase again.

"Social media platforms have been a breeding ground for individuals to bait each other during this crisis and that's potentially a recipe for disaster because when the unlock does start to happen then those gangs will want to come together to settle scores."

The family of Joseph Williams-Torres, 20, who was shot dead in Walthamstow in March 2018, said more needs to be done in an effort to defuse the threat of revenge attacks.

Joseph was never part of a gang - but his killers, who were members of the Mali Boys street gang, thought he was. He was shot in the chest and legs while he sat in a van with a friend.

"There needs to be more done to really protect our children. Joseph did nothing wrong," said his mother, Esther Torres.

"He was mistakenly killed because the gang thought he was one of their rivals."

Mr Williams-Torres's father, Anthony, added: "Just search online and it won't be hard to see gangs, including those who killed my son, egging each other on online."

Some gangs are exploiting apps like Houseparty and Snapchat to intimidate their rivals, criminologist Craig Pinkey said.

Mr Pinkey, director of Solve: The Centre for Youth Violence and Conflict, said some youngsters in Birmingham have already started settling scores.

Criminologist Craig Pinkey said some gang members in Birmingham have already started settling scores after social media conflicts
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Criminologist Craig Pinkey said some gang members in Birmingham have already started settling scores after social media conflicts
"What we have seen recently during the pandemic is a rise in which young people are engaging in violent conversations and conflicts on social media platforms," he said.

"There is a recent case where there was a drive-by shooting on a residential street which was a consequence of an argument that took place on Houseparty.

"So, something happened 24 hours before in a Houseparty conversation with groups of young people, which then manifested into people shooting at a house with people inside."

Gangs are frequently using Houseparty as a way of communicating, according to the researcher.

West Midlands Police seized 16 firearms in April following raids targeting top level gang members.

Mr Pinkey said social media was driving youths to commit crimes and has predicted a surge in violence fuelled by youths eager to reclaim their turf.

"We have a gun problem in the West Midlands," he said.

"The police have retrieved 16 firearms, but I worry there are possibly more firearms in the community.

"This demonstrates that more work needs to be done about reducing issues around conflict and guns that are in the community and somehow getting into the hands of fatigued, stressed and bored young people."

A spokesman for Houseparty said: "The safety of our community is essential to Houseparty.

"We do not tolerate any forms of discrimination, harassment, illicit or illegal behaviour in our community.

"We've built tools and developed policies to protect users and their experience."

Snapchat said it "condemns gang violence" and encouraged people to report any content that could violate its guidelines.

"It's difficult coming up as a young black boy in London. It's not easy," Stuka said.

"It is really hard especially where I'm from. There is no support. There are no youth clubs.

"I know it sounds clichéd as we've heard it all before, but there are no schemes going for people. There's nothing and when there's nothing, what can you do?"

Next week from Monday to Thursday, Dermot Murnaghan will be hosting After the Pandemic: Our New World - a series of special live programmes about what our world will be like once the pandemic is over.

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A man has been arrested after four people including a two-year-old boy were shot in north-west London.

The group, which included the child's mother and two men in their late teens, were attacked in Energen Close, Harlesden, on Wednesday evening.

They were all taken to hospital where the boy is in a serious but stable condition.

A 19-year-old man has been held on suspicion of attempted murder and remains in custody, the Met said.

The force added the arrest had taken place after officers "executed warrants at two addresses in North London" at 05:00 BST.

The three injured adults are in non life-threatening or life-changing conditions.

The group, who are believed to be known to each other, were in the street at about 21:45 when they were approached by a lone man who was carrying a hand gun.

Scotland Yard said he had fired "multiple shots" at the two men, then also shot into a nearby car.

"As a result of the indiscriminate shooting the mother was hit, as was the child who was in the car," the force added.

The gunman then fled on a motorbike.

Det Ch Insp Rick Sewart said the child had been left "seriously ill" due to a "wanton act of indiscriminate violence".

"I know that people will be shocked and horrified that a little boy should be the victim of a gunman and I need the community to show their support for him and his family, by telling police what they know," he said.

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A man has died of a suspected drug overdose and three others were stabbed as thousands attended two illegal raves in Manchester on Saturday night.

The 20-year-old man had been at a large gathering of about 4,000 people in Droylsden, according to Greater Manchester Police.

There were reports of three separate stabbings at another rave in nearby Carrington involving about 2,000 people, police said.

An 18-year-old man suffered life-threatening injuries - and two other men, aged 25 and 26, were also injured.

A 25-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of possession of an offensive weapon, police said.

Officers said they are also investigating the rape of an 18-year-old woman who attended the Carrington event.

Police were met with violence from participants at the party, with items thrown and a police car vandalised.

On Sunday, Assistant Chief Constable Chris Sykes said: "We are aware of two large raves that took place in Carrington and Droylsden last night.

"These raves were illegal and I condemn them taking place - they were clearly a breach of coronavirus legislation and guidelines, and have had tragic consequences."

He said the emergency services experienced a "surge in emergency calls", with more than a 60% increase in demand via 999 calls from 5pm on Saturday night to 4am this morning.

Mr Sykes added that violence towards police at the Carrington rave was "absolutely not acceptable and will not be tolerated".

"Our officers are working incredibly hard to keep people safe and should never be met with inexcusable violence whilst carrying out their duties," he said.

Deputy Labour Leader and MP for Ashton-under-Lyne Angela Rayner tweeted: "Those who attended put themselves and their loved ones at risk. (Completely) irresponsible.

"A lot of effort went into online events this weekend across (Greater Manchester). Those who attended should be ashamed of themselves. My local area now has to deal with the aftermath."

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A man has been shot dead in broad daylight in London.

Police found the man in his 20s with serious injuries after being called to reports of shots fired shortly after 3pm in Roman Way, Islington. He died at the scene.

One witness reported seeing a man riding off on a bike or moped after hearing gunshots from his window.


"I heard around seven shots, ran to window, and a guy on a bike or moped rode off," he said.

"He was looking back. When I looked to the park, I could see a guy staggering, then [he] fell.

"That was it, then police came. They are taping the area now... No one's allowed to leave."

The shooting happened near Pentonville prison and a children's playground.

"There's always crime around here," the witness said.

"The shooting is shocking, but not much of a surprise. It's not nice, though, especially near the local park."

Another man from the area, who did not want to be named, said he "knew the victim well", having heard their identity from a friend.

"He was just one of the younger kids from my area who I knew from my time in hanging around on the Caledonian Road/Bemerton estate," he said.

"It's very sad and I feel for his family... but this young man is probably the 10th person I know from the borough to die due to violence, so it's hardly a shock anymore.

"It's more shocking that he was shot rather than stabbed, if anything.

"The Caledonian Road has a huge problem with gang rivalries... the rivalries are not dying out as the generations change, they are getting worse and I really don't have any answers on what we can do to change that."

Emi Koizumi Watson, an Islington resident, said she heard "what sounded like nine rounds being rapidly fired".

"We assumed it was probably just fireworks because we never hear gunshots here," the 46-year-old said.

"But we've both fired guns before and this sounded like a handgun, not fireworks."

The Metropolitan Police said no arrests had been made. The victim's family have been told.

A spokesperson added that it was too early to say whether the shooting was linked to Pentonville, which is one of the country's oldest and busiest jails housing a men's prison and a young offender institution.

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Unless the law doesn't get stricter these crimes numbers won't go down. Many blame Sadiq Khan for these crimes but infact the massive cuts in policing over the years has had an impact in the crime rate going high.
 
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The killers of a police officer who was dragged to his death behind their getaway car have been jailed.

PC Andrew Harper died when he suffered catastrophic injuries as his ankles got caught in a strap attached to the car.

Driver Henry Long was jailed for 16 years for his manslaughter, in Berkshire last August.

PC Harper's widow Lissie said she was in "a lost and endless world" after her husband was killed in the line of duty, a month after their wedding day.

Long's accomplices Albert Bowers and Jessie Cole received 13 years for the same offence of manslaughter.

In a victim impact statement she read to the court, Mrs Harper said she had "screamed and cried and broken down in fractured defeat" in the wake of her husband's death.

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Chairman of the Police Federation of England and Wales John Apter says following the sentencing of three teenagers for the manslaughter of PC Andrew Harper: "The killing of a police officer should see those responsible face the rest of their lives in prison"
 
The Attorney General has been asked to consider whether jail terms given to the three teenagers who killed PC Andrew Harper are unduly lenient.

Henry Long, 19, the driver of the car that dragged the 28-year-old officer to his death, was jailed for 16 years for manslaughter at the Old Bailey on Friday.

The other two occupants of the car, Jessie Cole and Albert Bowers, both 18, were each jailed for 13 years.

On Tuesday, the Attorney General's Office confirmed they have been asked to consider if the jail terms handed to the teenagers are too lenient.

A spokesman for the Attorney General's Office said: "The Attorney General's thoughts are with the family and friends of PC Andrew Harper at this difficult time.

"I can confirm that we have received a request for the cases of Henry Long, Albert Bowers and Jessie Cole to be considered under the unduly lenient sentence scheme.

"The Law Officers have 28 days from sentencing to consider the case."

There were tears and gasps from some people in the public gallery on Friday when the teenagers were handed their sentences.

Reacting to their punishments, Long looked up briefly to glance at members of his family, while Cole kept his head bowed and Bowers appeared shocked.

PC Harper was dragged for a mile behind their car, after he tried to stop the group towing away a quad bike, stolen from outside a house in Berkshire in August last year.

The judge, Mr Justice Edis, said his role was to impose a sentence against the teenagers responsible for PC Harper's death which reflected "the seriousness of this case and protects the public".

Passing sentence, the judge said getaway driver Long was "dangerous" and had described the events as "just an ordinary police chase".

The Thames Valley police officer's grieving widow, Lissie Harper, has said she was "utterly shocked and appalled" at the decision not to convict the trio of murder.

Mrs Harper, who was married to the police officer for just a month before he was killed, said she was "immensely disappointed" at the verdicts when she spoke outside court.

She has since called on the government to intervene, despite a retrial being unusual.

In an open letter posted to Facebook, Mrs Harper urged Boris Johnson to "have this miscarriage of justice overturned" and claimed there was "suspected interference" with the jury during the trial.

The Attorney General has no power to order a retrial.

Prosecutors would either need new and compelling evidence to apply for the acquittals to be quashed, or there would need to be proven interference with the jury.

Measures were put in place to protect the jury , while one female juror was discharged after she was seen by a prison officer to mouth "Bye boys" to the teenagers in the dock.

Mr Justice Edis said there was no evidence that the jury had been pressured.

"It may be believed in some quarters that the jury was subject to some improper pressure," he told the court.

"To the best of my knowledge and belief there is no truth in that at all."

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The Attorney General has been asked to consider whether jail terms given to the three teenagers who killed PC Andrew Harper are unduly lenient.

Henry Long, 19, the driver of the car that dragged the 28-year-old officer to his death, was jailed for 16 years for manslaughter at the Old Bailey on Friday.

The other two occupants of the car, Jessie Cole and Albert Bowers, both 18, were each jailed for 13 years.

On Tuesday, the Attorney General's Office confirmed they have been asked to consider if the jail terms handed to the teenagers are too lenient.

A spokesman for the Attorney General's Office said: "The Attorney General's thoughts are with the family and friends of PC Andrew Harper at this difficult time.

"I can confirm that we have received a request for the cases of Henry Long, Albert Bowers and Jessie Cole to be considered under the unduly lenient sentence scheme.

"The Law Officers have 28 days from sentencing to consider the case."

There were tears and gasps from some people in the public gallery on Friday when the teenagers were handed their sentences.

Reacting to their punishments, Long looked up briefly to glance at members of his family, while Cole kept his head bowed and Bowers appeared shocked.

PC Harper was dragged for a mile behind their car, after he tried to stop the group towing away a quad bike, stolen from outside a house in Berkshire in August last year.

The judge, Mr Justice Edis, said his role was to impose a sentence against the teenagers responsible for PC Harper's death which reflected "the seriousness of this case and protects the public".

Passing sentence, the judge said getaway driver Long was "dangerous" and had described the events as "just an ordinary police chase".

The Thames Valley police officer's grieving widow, Lissie Harper, has said she was "utterly shocked and appalled" at the decision not to convict the trio of murder.

Mrs Harper, who was married to the police officer for just a month before he was killed, said she was "immensely disappointed" at the verdicts when she spoke outside court.

She has since called on the government to intervene, despite a retrial being unusual.

In an open letter posted to Facebook, Mrs Harper urged Boris Johnson to "have this miscarriage of justice overturned" and claimed there was "suspected interference" with the jury during the trial.

The Attorney General has no power to order a retrial.

Prosecutors would either need new and compelling evidence to apply for the acquittals to be quashed, or there would need to be proven interference with the jury.

Measures were put in place to protect the jury , while one female juror was discharged after she was seen by a prison officer to mouth "Bye boys" to the teenagers in the dock.

Mr Justice Edis said there was no evidence that the jury had been pressured.

"It may be believed in some quarters that the jury was subject to some improper pressure," he told the court.

"To the best of my knowledge and belief there is no truth in that at all."

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I feel 13-16 years is a bit low. They should've gotten harsher punishments.
 
Two of the three teenagers jailed for killing PC Andrew Harper have launched appeals against their manslaughter convictions.

Albert Bowers and Jessie Cole, both 18, have lodged applications with the Court of Appeal seeking permission to challenge their convictions and their 13-year prison sentences.
 
An NHS worker was left unconscious after being subjected to a "totally unwarranted violent assault" on a bus that was "triggered by face masks".

CCTV footage shows a man repeatedly punching the 63-year-old victim to the floor before stamping on his head five times, leaving him unconscious.

The incident happened on board the 149 bus just before it stopped at Seven Sisters station in north London at around 9.45pm on 23 August, the Metropolitan Police said.

Detectives say the victim, an NHS track and trace worker, boarded the bus via the middle doors before the suspect.

Five minutes later, the suspect followed the victim towards the back doors, where police believe he had gone to try and create some distance between them.

The suspect is thought to have "taken offence" when the victim moved away from him because he wasn't wearing his mask properly, the investigating officer said.

PC Bowman, of the roads and transport policing command, said: "Although there is no sound on the CCTV and all the victim remembers is waking up in hospital, we believe that this was all triggered by face masks.

"We think that the attacker, who had his face covering beneath his chin, took offence when the victim, who was fully covered, consciously moved away from him.

"When the attacker then follows the victim to the back of the bus, he can be seen pointing and gesturing at the victim's face mask before he starts repeatedly punching and kicking him.

"This was a totally unwarranted violent assault and we urgently need to speak to this man."

The suspect is described as a tall black man aged approximately between 23 and 25, tall, with an athletic or muscular build.

He was wearing blue tracksuit bottoms, a white vest and white trainers.

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A police officer has been shot dead inside a custody centre in south London.

The Metropolitan Police say a 23-year-old man was detained at the scene at Croydon custody centre, and was taken to hospital with a gunshot wound.

The male officer was shot at 2.15am on Friday by a man who had already been arrested.

In a statement, the Met said the officer was treated at the scene and then taken to hospital by London Ambulance Service, but later died.

No police firearms were discharged, according to the police.

Commissioner Cressida Dick said: "This is a truly shocking incident in which one of our colleagues has lost his life in the most tragic circumstances. My heart goes out to his family, direct colleagues and friends."

Home Secretary Priti Patel said: "I am deeply shocked and saddened to learn that a Metropolitan Police Officer has been shot and killed in the line of duty.

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A long-serving police officer has been shot dead at Croydon Custody Centre in south London.

The male sergeant was shot in the chest before the suspect turned the firearm on himself, sources have told the BBC.

The man had been brought to the custody suite in a police vehicle and the shooting happened during questioning about Covid-19, the BBC was told.

A minute's silence has been held for the officer described by the Met Police chief as a "much-loved colleague".

The victim, who has not been named, is thought to have been a few weeks away from retirement and was described as "one of a kind" by a colleague.

BBC Home Affairs correspondent Danny Shaw said it was believed the suspect - who is critically ill in hospital - was known to counter-terrorism police having been on their radar in the past, though the Met Police has not officially confirmed that.

No police firearms were discharged during the incident, which happened at about 02:15 BST at the Windmill Road centre.

The Met chief said the policing family was "deeply shocked and very sad" following the death of the officer.

"I have visited and spoken to our officer's partner together with other colleagues and we are of course giving her the best support we can," she said

"My heartfelt condolences go to her, to their family, to his colleagues and his close friends.

"A murder investigation is under way and officers are working at several crime scenes to secure evidence and to establish the facts of what happened.

"Early indications are that the suspect shot himself, this has not yet of course been established as a fact."

Det Insp Richard Berns described his colleague as "hard working and an inspiration to all who knew him".

"It was a privilege to have worked with him and known him over so many years," he said.

"He was was one of a kind and will be deeply missed. Rest in peace my friend."

Community police officer Jacqueline Kufuor was among those laying flowers outside the custody centre in tribute to her colleague.

She described the officer as "a lovely guy" and "the nicest man I have ever met".

An investigation by the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) is under way and will have several strands, our correspondent Danny Shaw added.

"It's likely to focus on the circumstances of the man's arrest - which officers were deployed during the operation; whether and how the suspect was searched; and if he was put into handcuffs," he said.

"The IOPC will also need to establish what happened at the police station and whether appropriate measures were put in place when the suspect was taken out of the police van."

The Mayor of London Sadiq Khan said the police were currently "reviewing the safety of custody suites" and "there could be changes very soon to custody suites to make sure they are as safe as they can be".

Earlier, Prime Minister Boris Johnson said: "We owe a huge debt to those who risk their own lives to keep us safe."

In a post on social media he also said: "My deepest condolences go to the family, friends and colleagues of the police officer who was killed in Croydon last night."

A number of police officers have also been turning their social media profile pictures black with a blue stripe to pay their respect to the officer.

Analysis

By Dominic Casciani, BBC Home Affairs correspondent

This appalling incident in Croydon appears to be absolutely unique - an officer shot by a man who was already inside a police facility - and the shock felt today underlines how rare it is for police officers in the UK to be killed by a suspect in the line of duty, relative to other nations.

The Metropolitan Police officer shot dead in Croydon is the 17th from the force to have been killed by a firearm since the Second World War.

But since the beginning of the 20th Century 73 police officers have been shot and killed by criminals in the UK, excluding all deaths in Northern Ireland.

The majority of those deaths - more than 50 - have occurred since 1945.

Police officers in other parts of the world are often puzzled why British constables are not routinely armed. But the fact is that there are very few criminal guns in circulation - and the culture of policing has never seen it as acceptable to be universally armed.

However, Tasers are increasingly a common sight in the UK - and a massive survey of police officers recently found three-quarters would carry one of the less-than-lethal devices on the frontline, if given the choice.

Yogarajah Emmanuel, 43, who runs a shop opposite the custody suite, said he woke up at 02:30 BST to the sound of sirens.

"I looked out of my window and could see three ambulances," said Mr Emmanuel.

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Yogarajah Emmanuel, who runs a shop opposite the custody suite, said he saw an ambulance speed away at 02:30 on Friday
"There was noise and all of a sudden one ambulance from inside the car park came out and sped off.

"This morning I heard it was a police officer and just felt so sad. They are all very good people and wave and say hello when they come to my shop."

'Sick to their stomachs'
Ken Marsh, chairman of the Met Police Federation, said news of the shooting was "utterly devastating".

"Officers across London are in shock and sick to their stomachs at the nature of his death," he said.

"Sadly, on very rare occasions officers make the ultimate sacrifice whilst fulfilling their role.

"When that happens we will ensure their bravery and sacrifice is never forgotten."

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Croydon police officer shot dead named as Sgt Matt Ratana

A long-serving police officer shot dead in a custody centre in south London has been named as Sgt Matiu Ratana aged 54.

New Zealand-born Sgt Ratana was two months away from retirement when he was shot in the chest in Croydon on Friday.

The 23-year-old suspect is then thought to have turned the firearm on himself. He remains in a critical condition in hospital.

Met Police Commissioner Cressida Dick described the police sergeant as a "much-loved colleague".

A minute's silence was held at 16:00 BST at New Scotland Yard and Croydon Police Station to pay tribute to the officer.

Sgt Ratana, who was known as Matt, had served with the Met for almost 30 years having moved to the UK in 1989.

He was originally from the Hawke's Bay area of New Zealand and was educated at Palmerston North Boy's High School's, a town north of the capital, Wellington.

He had served with the Met in various parts of the London including Hackney and Selhurst, with his last posting as custody sergeant in Croydon where he managed suspects who are brought into the cells.

He was on duty in that role at the Windmill Road centre when he was shot dead at about 02:15.

The BBC has been told the shooting happened during questioning of the suspect about Covid-19.

Outside of work Sgt Ratana was a highly experienced rugby union coach, leading teams including at Worthing, near to where he was lived in Goring-by-Sea, and, until his death, East Grinstead.

Earlier BBC Home Affairs correspondent Danny Shaw said it was believed the suspect was known to counter-terrorism police having been on their radar in the past, though the Met has not officially confirmed that.

The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) said the man was arrested for possession of Class B drugs with intent to supply and possession of ammunition.

He was handcuffed with his hands behind his back and taken to the Croydon Custody Centre in a police vehicle, before being escorted into the building.

The shots were fired as officers prepared to search the man, who was still handcuffed, with a metal detector, the IOPC said.

"A non-police issue firearm, which appears to be a revolver, has been recovered from the scene. Further ballistic work will be required," said IOPC regional director Sal Naseem.

The Met have said a murder investigation is also under way.

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New Zealand's prime minister has offered her condolences to family and colleagues of a police officer killed on duty in the UK.

Sergeant Matiu Ratana was originally from Hawke's Bay on New Zealand's North Island but had served with the Metropolitan Police for much of his career.
 
Croydon police shooting: Death of officer Matt Ratana captured on CCTV, Scotland Yard reveals

Four addresses are being searched by detectives investigating the fatal shooting of a police officer in a custody suite in London.

Metropolitan Police sergeant Matiu Ratana, 54, was killed in the early hours of Friday when a handcuffed gunman opened fire before turning the weapon on himself.

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Stuart Cundy said the 23-year-old man arrested on suspicion of murder following the death at Croydon Custody Centre remained in critical condition in hospital.

“Due to his state, we are not yet able to speak to him,” he said during a news briefing at Scotland Yard.

He said the gun used in the killing had been recovered from the custody suite.

“We also have the CCTV from that custody suite, which shows the events” he said.

“And we have body-worn video of our police officers who were involved in the circumstances surrounding the arrest of the suspect.

“Our special investigators are carefully reviewing all of that footage, which will be considered alongside the accounts of the officers.”

The four locations being searched are:

The custody centre where the shooting occurred
An area of London Road in Pollards Hill, south London, where the suspect was initially arrested
An address in Southbrook Road, Norbury
An address in Park Road, Banstead, Surrey
Enquiries at these locations include “rigorous forensic searches which are expected to take days to complete”, police have said.

Sgt Ratana, who died in hospital, has been described as “big in stature, big in heart, friendly, capable, a lovely man and highly respected by his colleagues”.

Friends say he was looking forward to imminent retirement, which he would have become eligible for in two months.

No police firearms were fired and the case is not being treated as terror-related.

A murder inquiry was launched by the Metropolitan Police, and the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) watchdog also began an investigation.

Prior to the shooting, the suspect had been arrested by regular officers following a stop and search, then handcuffed behind his back before being taken to the station in a police vehicle.

Sgt Ratana leaves behind a partner and adult son.
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Police investigating the fatal shooting of a police officer in south London say four crime scenes are being searched.

Sgt Matiu Ratana, 54, from New Zealand, died in hospital on Friday after being shot in Croydon as a handcuffed suspect was being taken into custody.

The 23-year-old suspect, who is thought to have then shot himself, remains in a critical condition, police said.

Residents near one of the search areas, in Banstead, Surrey, reported hearing a loud explosion on Saturday morning.

People living near the address on Park Road were woken by noises at about 05:40 BST.

Image captionPolice guarded the entrance to a property on Park Road in Banstead

The BBC's Daniel De Simone said the Banstead address is down a long driveway and its land contains a series of concrete bunkers.

Multiple police officers, including armed officers, were visible in the area and people had been informed that a controlled explosion had taken place, the BBC was told.

A marked police car has been guarding the entrance to the property.

Police confirmed the other scenes undergoing searches are Croydon Custody Centre, where the shooting occurred, an area of London Road in Pollards Hill, where the suspect was initially arrested, and an address on Southbrook Road, Norbury.
 
A man has been arrested on suspicion of supplying a firearm following the fatal shooting of a police officer in a custody suite.

Sergeant Matt Ratana died in hospital after being shot at Croydon Custody Centre in south London in the early hours of Friday.

The arrest took place in Norwich around 2am this morning and the suspect is currently being detained at a south London police station.

Meanwhile, the suspect for the shooting remains in a critical condition in hospital and officers say they have not yet been able to speak to him.

Friends and teammates of Sgt Ratana, who was a rugby coach, have gathered in tribute to him.

Silences were held at East Grinstead Rugby Club and at the National Police Memorial in London where a wreath-laying ceremony took place.

Metropolitan Police Commissioner Dame Cressida Dick described him as an "extraordinary person", adding: "He had a wonderful personality and he was very good at his job."

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The suspect in the murder of a police officer in south London is Louis De Zoysa, the BBC has been told.
New Zealand-born Sgt Matiu Ratana, 54, died in hospital after being shot at the Croydon custody centre as a handcuffed suspect was taken into custody on Friday morning.
Mr De Zoysa, 23, from Norbury, who is thought to have shot himself, is critically ill in hospital.
Another man has been arrested on suspicion of supplying a firearm.
Officers made the arrest at about 02:00 BST in Norwich. The man is currently in custody.
 
The bodies of a man, woman and three-year-old child have been found at an address in Brentford, west London, police have said.

They were found at 12.50am on Tuesday morning at a home on Clayponds Lane, following concerns for the welfare of the occupants.

A man, believed to be in his 40s, was found with stab wounds. He was treated by paramedics but pronounced dead at the scene.
 
A murder suspect wanted in connection with three deaths - including a mother and son - has been arrested, police have said.

Anthony Russell was detained in a Staffordshire village in the early hours of Friday morning after he was spotted in a stolen car by West Midlands Police officers on patrol.

He was wanted in connection with the deaths of Julie Williams, 58, and her son David Williams, 32, whose bodies were discovered in separate flats in Coventry earlier this week.
 
A man is in a critical condition after a triple shooting in Hackney, east London.

Two other men were taken to hospital with "gunshot injuries" after shots were fired at about 21.45 GMT in Middleton Road.

The Metropolitan Police has launched an inquiry. No arrests have been made.

A police cordon has been set up at the crime scene. Witnesses are asked to call 101, using reference 7439, the force said.
 
[VIDEO] Crime and COVID in London's Little India

An interesting mini documentary piece showing the effect of the covid, illegal immigration and crime on the poverty stricken, crime ridden and mainly Indian community of Southhall.

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It's quite a sad video to watch.
 
London violence: Two killed and two injured in attacks

Two people have been killed and another two injured in a spate of attacks across London.

A teenage boy was found with fatal stab wounds on Church Road, Havering, at 18:41 BST on Friday - 10 minutes later, another boy was found with stab injuries on nearby Retford Road.

A man was then pronounced dead in Gillett Square, Dalston, just before 01:00 after reports of shots fired.

A man, 18, is also critical after being stabbed in Woolwich on Friday.

The boy found in Church Road died at the scene and the boy in Retford Road was taken to hospital.

Three people have been arrested in connection with those stabbings, the Met said.

Homicide detectives have been informed of the death, although a murder investigation is yet to be officially launched.

The man pronounced dead in Dalston was found with "serious injuries", but officers said they were still establishing the "exact nature" of the injuries.

A crime scene remains in place and no arrests have been made.

The Met said the 18-year-old man attacked in Woolwich was stabbed in Marine Drive on Friday afternoon and remains in a critical condition in hospital.

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Not sure what the statistics are, but it certainly seems to be getting worse.
 
Not sure what the statistics are, but it certainly seems to be getting worse.

In London, knife crime was getting out of control, the C19 lockdown put a pause to the shocking numbers, but at one point a person was either stabbed or killed, almost every other day.
 
The incident took place at 7:30 pm on Saturday, May 8 at Selfridges in Oxford Street, London. Police said they were called to reports of a fight at the store.

A video of the incident shows a group fighting within the store while one man is seen holding a knife, wielding the blade by his side.

One man was taken to hospital and treated for stab injuries to his leg following the incident but they are not considered life-threatening.

Police said the victim of the stabbing has also been arrested as part of an ongoing investigation into the incident.

An appeal for information has also been launched by the Metropolitan Police.

A Met Police spokesman said: "Police were called at approximately 7:35pm on Saturday, 8 May to reports of a fight at a store in Oxford Street, W1.

"Officers attended the scene and found a male with a stab injury to the leg.
"He has been taken to hospital for treatment - his condition is not thought to be serious.

"He is one of seven people arrested as part of this investigation for offences including affray."

A spokesperson for Selfridges London Oxford Street said: "We can confirm there was an incident in store on Saturday evening.

"The safety of our team members and customers is our utmost priority and we are doing all we can to support the police with their investigation."

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