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Russia invades Ukraine

The suspects even managed to get away, the response was slower than an off spinner.

I personally feel those who want to use British troops & tax payers money to fight Russia, should first put on their tin hat and join the forces. The warmongers are usually sat in the comfort of their homes or offices in government.

The most ironic aspect of the chemical attack is that UK (and USA) complain about Chemical weapons, yet manufacture chemical weapons and sell them to other nations! I mean, why manufacture and sell if you want to get rid of chemical weapons? You reap what you sow I guess.

Poor British troops on the other hand take commands from USA. This is a fact, UK doesn't have the balls to defy or reject the demands of the USA, so USA calls the shots, or rather, the Zionists.
 
The most ironic aspect of the chemical attack is that UK (and USA) complain about Chemical weapons, yet manufacture chemical weapons and sell them to other nations! I mean, why manufacture and sell if you want to get rid of chemical weapons? You reap what you sow I guess.

Poor British troops on the other hand take commands from USA. This is a fact, UK doesn't have the balls to defy or reject the demands of the USA, so USA calls the shots, or rather, the Zionists.

Imo its not a coincidence Salisbury 'attack' was near Porton down, the top secret lab where chemical weapons, nerve gases , anthrax and many others are produced, tested. The whole story is messed up if you look deeply into it.

Imo UK and US both take their orders from the same actors. They are not in charge of their foriegn policy, otherwise it would be idiotic for UK to stick its foot into Russia, who could wipe us out very quickly if it wanted.
 
Imo its not a coincidence Salisbury 'attack' was near Porton down, the top secret lab where chemical weapons, nerve gases , anthrax and many others are produced, tested. The whole story is messed up if you look deeply into it.

Imo UK and US both take their orders from the same actors. They are not in charge of their foriegn policy, otherwise it would be idiotic for UK to stick its foot into Russia, who could wipe us out very quickly if it wanted.

When in doubt blame the Russians/Muslims/Communists.
 
China joins Russia in opposing Nato expansion


China has joined Russia in opposing further Nato expansion as the two countries move closer together in the face of Western pressure.

Moscow and Beijing issued a statement showcasing their agreement on a raft of issues during a visit by Russia's Vladimir Putin for the Winter Olympics.

Mr Putin claims Western powers are using the Nato defence alliance to undermine Russia.

It comes amid tensions over Ukraine, which he denies planning to invade.

Some 100,000 Russian troops remain at the border with Ukraine, which is a former Soviet republic. Mr Putin, who has written that Russians and Ukrainians are "one nation", has demanded that Ukraine be barred from joining Nato.

While the lengthy joint statement did not refer directly to Ukraine, the two countries accused Nato of espousing a Cold War ideology.

The talks, which the Kremlin said were "very warm", were held ahead of the Games opening ceremony. It was the first time the leaders have met face-to-face since the start of the pandemic.

"Friendship between [Russia and China] has no limits, there are no 'forbidden' areas of cooperation," the statement reads.

Security alliance

The two countries said they were "seriously concerned" about the Aukus security pact between the US, UK and Australia.

Announced last year, Aukus will see Australia build nuclear-powered submarines as part of efforts to boost security in the Asia-Pacific region. It is largely seen as an effort to counter China, which has been accused of raising tensions in disputed territories such as the South China Sea.

Meanwhile Russia said it supported Beijing's One China policy, which asserts that self-ruled Taiwan is a breakaway province that will eventually be part of China again.

However, Taiwan sees itself as an independent country, with its own constitution and democratically-elected leaders.

They had lunch, they had talks then they went off to see a show together - a big show.

Vladimir Putin is the star guest in Beijing for the start of the winter games. Of more significance to this visit is the increased co-operation and shared view of the world that Presidents Xi and Putin are keen to show.

Although Ukraine wasn't mentioned it was clearly hinted at when they both said they oppose the enlargement of the Nato alliance.

For China this is a delicate balance. Beijing has relations with Ukraine - political and economic. Any Russia invasion or military attack there could be damaging for President Xi's standing.
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Amid a growing war of words, the US on Wednesday accused Russia of planning to stage a fake Ukrainian attack that it would use to justify an invasion.

Russia denied it was planning to fabricate an attack, and the US did not provide evidence to support the claim.

Earlier the US said it was sending more troops to eastern Europe to support Nato allies. Russia said the move was "destructive" and showed that its concerns about Nato's eastward expansion were justified.

S: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-60257080

Said it before, the whole AUKUS formation a few months ago was just a prelude.

These winter Olympics are much more significant.

The world is getting into blocks

I. China, Russia and allies.

II. UK, USA, Zionist lobby and their rat minions.

III. The EU, Turks, Arabs*, India**, Pakistan*** and neutrals.

*(Arabs are having more and more Zionist influence but they are too cowards :yk )

**(India, unlike Pakistan, are not stupid and will never ally with any major block)

***(I hope we stay the heck away from becoming a 'use and throwaway Kleenex' as we did for Western invasion of Afghanistan. Our alliance with China should only be comercial and we should only get into a war if we are directly attacked. Kudos to Pak army for not participating in Arab massacre of defenseless Yemen.)
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-60257080

<b>China joins Russia in opposing Nato expansion</b>

China has joined Russia in opposing further Nato expansion as the two countries move closer together in the face of Western pressure.

Moscow and Beijing issued a statement showcasing their agreement on a raft of issues during a visit by Russia's Vladimir Putin for the Winter Olympics.

Mr Putin claims Western powers are using the Nato defence alliance to undermine Russia.

It comes amid tensions over Ukraine, which he denies planning to invade.

Some 100,000 Russian troops remain at the border with Ukraine, which is a former Soviet republic.

Mr Putin, who has written that Russians and Ukrainians are "one nation", has demanded that Ukraine be barred from joining Nato.

While the lengthy joint statement did not refer directly to Ukraine, the two countries accused Nato of espousing a Cold War ideology.

The talks, which the Kremlin said were "very warm", were held ahead of the Games opening ceremony.

It was the first time the leaders have met face-to-face since the start of the pandemic.

"Friendship between [Russia and China] has no limits, there are no 'forbidden' areas of cooperation," the statement reads.

The two countries said they were "seriously concerned" about the Aukus security pact between the US, UK and Australia.

Announced last year, Aukus will see Australia build nuclear-powered submarines as part of efforts to boost security in the Asia-Pacific region.

It is largely seen as an effort to counter China, which has been accused of raising tensions in disputed territories such as the South China Sea.

Meanwhile Russia said it supported Beijing's One China policy, which asserts that self-ruled Taiwan is a breakaway province that will eventually be part of China again.

However, Taiwan sees itself as an independent country, with its own constitution and democratically-elected leaders.

Amid a growing war of words, the US on Wednesday accused Russia of planning to stage a fake Ukrainian attack that it would use to justify an invasion.

Russia denied it was planning to fabricate an attack, and the US did not provide evidence to support the claim.

Earlier the US said it was sending more troops to eastern Europe to support Nato allies.

Russia said the move was "destructive" and showed that its concerns about Nato's eastward expansion were justified.
 
Everyone can predict what they want but truth is we only come to realize the real picture after 10 years.

After 2008 there was so much talk about America being finished western world being finished blah blah..i remember bumping a thread from 2007-08 here lol.

Instead America became even more invasive thanks to BIG data, smartphones.

Lets see what crypto,blockchain, “web3.0” and metaverse . automated vehicles , neuromorphic engineering brings for future.
 
S: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-60257080

Said it before, the whole AUKUS formation a few months ago was just a prelude.

These winter Olympics are much more significant.

The world is getting into blocks

I. China, Russia and allies.

II. UK, USA, Zionist lobby and their rat minions.

III. The EU, Turks, Arabs*, India**, Pakistan*** and neutrals.

*(Arabs are having more and more Zionist influence but they are too cowards :yk )

**(India, unlike Pakistan, are not stupid and will never ally with any major block)

***(I hope we stay the heck away from becoming a 'use and throwaway Kleenex' as we did for Western invasion of Afghanistan. Our alliance with China should only be comercial and we should only get into a war if we are directly attacked. Kudos to Pak army for not participating in Arab massacre of defenseless Yemen.)

I used to cringe when i used to read idolizing of Nehru’s Non-alignment movement in our school history books.

And i still do, hopefully India joins the capitalist block.
 
S: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-60257080

Said it before, the whole AUKUS formation a few months ago was just a prelude.

These winter Olympics are much more significant.

The world is getting into blocks

I. China, Russia, Pakistan , Turks and allies.

II. UK, USA, Zionist lobby, India , EU , and Arabs



*(Arabs are having more and more Zionist influence but they are too cowards :yk )

**(India, unlike Pakistan, are not stupid and will never ally with any major block)

***(I hope we stay the heck away from becoming a 'use and throwaway Kleenex' as we did for Western invasion of Afghanistan. Our alliance with China should only be comercial and we should only get into a war if we are directly attacked. Kudos to Pak army for not participating in Arab massacre of defenseless Yemen.)

Fixed your blocks (in bold)
 
Fixed your blocks (in bold)

Not really.. Turks have morally supported Ukraine in current scenario Azerbaijan before, similarly India has still not become a full on US-UK ally.. too much of distrust.

Also missing in block are Aus, Japan, S Korea, N korea.
 
Not really.. Turks have morally supported Ukraine in current scenario Azerbaijan before, similarly India has still not become a full on US-UK ally.. too much of distrust.

Also missing in block are Aus, Japan, S Korea, N korea.

Delusional.
 
Not really.. Turks have morally supported Ukraine in current scenario Azerbaijan before, similarly India has still not become a full on US-UK ally.. too much of distrust.

Also missing in block are Aus, Japan, S Korea, N korea.

Japan and S. Korea (same as Iran) are irrelevant. At least, their impact won't matter much since they don't have nuclear arsenal.

Turks are their own bosses thanks to the legendary Khalifa who conquered Constantinople and Kemal Atatürk who delivered and expelled Western **** from it.

India do not need to be in any block. Even during height of 2020 clashes with China, to surprise of hardcore Hindus, the Indian government never really stopped Chinese money investment in India. I think this tells a lot of Indian establishment's foresight.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60276342

<b>Ukraine tensions: US sources say Russia 70% ready to invade</b>

Russia has assembled about 70% of the military capability needed for a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in the coming weeks, US officials say.

The ground is expected to freeze and harden from mid-February, enabling Moscow to bring in more heavy equipment, the unnamed officials said.

Russia is said to have more than 100,000 troops near Ukraine's borders but denies planning to attack.

The US officials did not provide evidence for their assessment.

They said the information was based on intelligence but that they were unable to give details due to its sensitivity, US media report.

The officials also said they did not know if Russian President Vladimir Putin had decided to take such a step, adding that a diplomatic solution was still possible.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, two US officials told Reuters news agency that weather conditions would provide a peak window for Russia to move equipment forward between about 15 February and the end of March.

According to reports, the officials warned that a Russian invasion of Ukraine could cause as many as 50,000 civilian deaths.

They also estimated that an attack could see the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv, fall within days and prompt a refugee crisis in Europe as millions of people flee.

Additional US troops have been arriving in Poland as part of a new deployment to bolster the Western military alliance Nato's forces in the region.

The first group landed at Rzeszow in the south-east of the country on Saturday.

The Biden administration announced days ago that it would send nearly 3,000 additional troops to Eastern Europe.

Moscow says its troops are in the region for military drills, but Ukraine and its Western allies remain concerned that the Kremlin is planning to launch an assault.

The tensions come nearly eight years after Russia annexed Ukraine's southern Crimea peninsula and backed a bloody rebellion in the eastern Donbas region.

Moscow accuses the Ukrainian government of failing to implement the Minsk agreement - an international deal to restore peace to the east, where Russian-backed rebels control swathes of territory and at least 14,000 people have been killed since 2014.

Russia is insisting that Ukraine should not be allowed to join Nato.

Rivalry between Russia and the US, which still possess the world's biggest nuclear arsenals, dates back to the Cold War.

Ukraine was then a crucial part of the communist Soviet Union.
 
S: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-60257080

Said it before, the whole AUKUS formation a few months ago was just a prelude.

These winter Olympics are much more significant.

The world is getting into blocks

I. China, Russia and allies.

II. UK, USA, Zionist lobby and their rat minions.

III. The EU, Turks, Arabs*, India**, Pakistan*** and neutrals.

*(Arabs are having more and more Zionist influence but they are too cowards :yk )

**(India, unlike Pakistan, are not stupid and will never ally with any major block)

***(I hope we stay the heck away from becoming a 'use and throwaway Kleenex' as we did for Western invasion of Afghanistan. Our alliance with China should only be comercial and we should only get into a war if we are directly attacked. Kudos to Pak army for not participating in Arab massacre of defenseless Yemen.)
During cold war, while not part of any block, practically India was aligned wirh USSR. This time it has no option but to align (it will obviously be not formal) with USA where unfortunately it will be opposite to Russia.

Same with Pakistan - it has already aligned (with China) even without the blocks forming yet. The good thing is that it will find like minded (dictators/communists etc) company.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60281863

<b>Ukraine crisis: Macron says a deal to avoid war is within reach</b>

<I>French President Emmanuel Macron has said he thinks a deal to avoid war in Ukraine is possible, but that it is legitimate for Russia to raise its own security concerns.</I>

Ahead of a visit to Moscow, Mr Macron called for a "new balance" that would protect European states but also afford Russia respect.

He restated that the sovereignty of Ukraine was not up for discussion.

Russia has massed troops on Ukraines's border but denies planning to invade.

Moscow has made a string of demands, including that the Nato defence alliance rule out Ukraine becoming a member and that it reduce its military presence in eastern Europe.

Western countries have rejected this, instead suggesting other areas of negotiation, for example talks on cutting back nuclear weaponry.

Before leaving Paris, Mr Macron told the Journal du Dimanche newspaper that Russia's objective was "not Ukraine, but a clarification of the rules... with Nato and the EU".

He said his dialogue with President Putin would likely be enough to prevent military conflict breaking out and that he believed Mr Putin would be open to discussing wider issues.

Mr Macron cautioned against expecting Moscow to take "unilateral measures" to de-escalate the situation and said Russia had the right to raise its own concerns.

But he said setting up dialogue with Russia could not "pass through the weakening of any European state".

"We must protect our European brothers by proposing a new balance capable of preserving their sovereignty and peace," he said.

"This must be done while respecting Russia and understanding the contemporary traumas of this great people and great nation."

The trip to Moscow and Kyiv the following day is being coordinated with German and American allies, and is seen as an opportunity for Mr Macron to be in the spotlight ahead of France's presidential election in April.

The French President has called for a renewed relationship with Russia before, and in January he said the EU should open its own dialogue with Moscow, rather than rely on Washington.

Meanwhile the US government again warned that Russia could invade Ukraine at any time.

"We are in the window. Any day now, Russia could take military action against Ukraine, or it could be a couple of weeks from now," White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan told Fox News on Sunday.

Two US officials told Reuters that Russia had assembled about 70% of the necessary military capability needed for a full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

However, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba appeared to play down the threat of an imminent invasion, tweeting on Sunday: "Do not believe the apocalyptic predictions. Different capitals have different scenarios, but Ukraine is ready for any development."

The tensions between Russia, Ukraine and the West come nearly eight years after Russia annexed Ukraine's southern Crimea peninsula and backed a bloody rebellion in the eastern Donbas region.

Moscow accuses the Ukrainian government of failing to implement the Minsk agreement - an international deal to restore peace to the east, where Russian-backed rebels control swathes of territory and at least 14,000 people have been killed since 2014.
 
Russian attack on Ukraine possible 'any day' but diplomacy still an option, White House says



WASHINGTON, Feb 6 (Reuters) - Russia could invade Ukraine within days or weeks but could still opt for a diplomatic path, White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan said on Sunday.

"We are in the window. Any day now, Russia could take military action against Ukraine, or it could be a couple of weeks from now, or Russia could choose to take the diplomatic path instead," Sullivan told the "Fox News Sunday" program.

Sullivan made the comments in television interviews after two U.S. officials on Saturday said Russia, which seized Crimea from Ukraine in 2014, has in place about 70% of the combat power it believes it would need for a full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

As Russia masses more than 100,000 troops near the border, Moscow has said it is not planning an invasion but could take unspecified military action if its security demands are not met.

Those include a promise that NATO will never admit Ukraine, a demand the United States and the 30-nation Western security alliance have called unacceptable.

Possible Russian action could include annexing Ukraine's Donbass region, where Russian-backed separatists broke away from Ukrainian government control in 2014, cyberattacks or a full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Sullivan added, saying Russia could act as soon as Monday though it could also be weeks.

"We believe that there is a very distinct possibility that Vladimir Putin will order an attack on Ukraine," Sullivan told ABC's "This Week" program, referring to the Russian leader.

"It could take a number of different forms. It could happen as soon as tomorrow, or it could take some weeks yet. He has put himself in a position with military deployments to be able to act aggressively against Ukraine at any time now," Sullivan added.

U.S. TROOPS LAND IN POLAND

Ukraine, while seeking more military aid, has also sought to calm fears of an invasion. Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba on Sunday urged people to ignore "apocalyptic predictions," saying his country was strong and had unprecedented international support.

Washington has made clear it would not send U.S. soldiers to defend Ukraine, which is not a member of NATO.

However, Washington has given Kyiv arms and last week said it would send nearly 3,000 extra troops to Poland and Romania to shield Eastern Europe from potential spillover from the crisis.

A plane carrying U.S. troops landed in Poland on Sunday, a Reuters witness said. On Wednesday, the Pentagon said around 1,700 service members, mainly from the 82nd Airborne Division, would deploy from Fort Bragg, North Carolina, to Poland.

U.S. President Joe Biden sent a message to the troops as he arrived at the White House after a weekend at his Delaware home. "We're thinking of you," he said, clenching his fist as he spoke to reporters.

Biden said he would not speculate on whether he might need to send more troops to Europe. Asked what Putin is weighing as he decides whether to pursue an invasion, Biden said the Russian president was looking for "things he cannot get."

Biden spoke to French President Emmanuel Macron on Sunday ahead of the French president’s visit to Moscow, an effort to bring down the tensions that is coordinated with Washington and Berlin, according to a White House statement.

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, who will meet Biden at the White House on Monday, signaled on Sunday he was open to deploying more troops to Lithuania to bolster NATO's eastern flank.

'DIRECT IMPACT' OF SANCTIONS

The United States, with its allies, has threatened extensive economic sanctions against Russia should it invade. These could include financial sanctions as well as export-control measures.

U.S. Deputy Treasury Secretary Wally Adeyemo on Sunday said any sanctions would hit Putin and Russian elites hard given their reliance on Europe, which is Russia's largest trading partner, and the U.S. dollar.

"By the United States and Europe acting together, we put ourselves in a position where we not only would have an impact on the overall Russian economy but we'd have a direct impact on President Putin, who is tied to the Russian economy," he told CBS News' "Face the Nation."On a daily basis, Russian financial institutions do about $46 billion worth of financial transactions globally with 80% of those in dollars, Adeyemo said. Russia's biggest trading partner is Europe, accounting for about 40% of Russian commerce.

Asked if Russia could instead just turn to China, Adeyemo said the severity of planned U.S. sanctions and Russia's ties with the West would make that difficult.

China "does not have access" to critical technologies Russia relies on from the United States and its allies, he told CBS.

"Russian elites, who would be cut off from the global financial system, are not putting their money in China. They're putting their money in Europe and in the United States," Adeyemo said.



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World leaders are stepping up efforts to reduce tensions over Ukraine as fears of a Russian invasion grow.

French President Emmanuel Macron expressed hope that war could be avoided as he met Russian leader Vladimir Putin in Moscow.

In Washington, US President Joe Biden hosted German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and said they were "in lockstep to address Russian aggression".

Russia currently has more than 100,000 troops massed on Ukraine's borders.

Western powers accuse the country of planning an invasion, something Russia has repeatedly denied.

US officials said on Sunday that Russia has assembled 70% of military forces needed for a full-scale invasion.

In recent weeks, Moscow has demanded that the Western military alliance Nato ban Ukraine from ever becoming a member, and that the group cuts its troop numbers in eastern Europe.

Nato has rejected both demands. It has instead suggested talks on other areas, such as limiting nuclear weapons.


The tensions between Russia, Ukraine and the West come nearly eight years after Russia annexed Ukraine's southern Crimea peninsula and backed a bloody rebellion in the eastern Donbas region.

Moscow accuses the Ukrainian government of failing to implement the Minsk agreement - an international deal sponsored by Germany and France to restore peace to the east, where Russian-backed rebels control swathes of territory and at least 14,000 people have been killed since 2014.

Macron 'hopes to avoid war'
The French president - who is expected to seek re-election in April - met Mr Putin in the Russian capital.

As talks began the Russian president praised Mr Macron for his efforts "to resolve the crisis" in Ukraine.

Mr Macron meanwhile said he hoped to "avoid a war", and that the talks aimed to de-escalate tensions and build "elements of confidence, stability and visibility for everyone".

France currently holds the rotating presidency of the EU. On Tuesday, Mr Macron will fly on to the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv, for talks with President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Ahead of the trip, Mr Macron told a French newspaper that he believed a deal over Ukraine was within reach, and said Russia had a right to raise its own security concerns.

Russia's objective was "not Ukraine, but a clarification of the rules... with Nato and the EU", he said.

But Dmitry Peskov, spokesman for President Putin, tampered down expectations for the talks on Monday.

There has been "nothing new on the topic of security guarantees for Russia" in recent days, he said in quotes published by Reuters news agency. "The situation is too complex to expect decisive breakthroughs in the course of one meeting."



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60292437
 
Macron speaks up for Europe
By Paul Adams, BBC diplomatic correspondent


Emmanuel Macron believes his dialogue with Vladimir Putin can, maybe even will, prevent a war. And he's long believed that Europe should get better at sorting out its own problems. If Europeans don't speak, he says, it inevitably falls to America to do the sorting.

With well over 100,000 Russian troops ranged around Ukraine's borders and European security still utterly dependent on American leadership, President Macron's initiative, by itself, would represent a risky strategy.

But he's not the only one offering Russia a dialogue about the future shape of European security. Nato and the United States have both written to the Kremlin, proposing just that. Mr Putin has yet to answer.

And so the sense of peril hasn't diminished - fuelled by regular, alarming assessments from American and British officials that the moment of maximum danger is fast approaching.

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Separately, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has flown to Washington for talks with US President Joe Biden.

It comes after public criticism at home and abroad of Germany for not doing enough to support Ukraine. While Mr Scholz has said Russia would pay a "high price" for an invasion, his country has refused to send lethal weaponry to Ukraine.

On Monday, however, Germany's defence minister announced the country would send a further 350 troops to Lithuania, to add to Nato's presence there. There are already 500 German troops stationed in the country.

The US and German leaders are likely to discuss Nord Stream 2, a key gas pipeline running from Russia to Germany. The US has threatened to stop the pipeline from opening, while Germany has only said it will not rule out imposing sanctions on the project.

Mr Biden and Mr Scholz will also hold a news conference after their discussions on Monday.

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken meanwhile held talks with EU foreign policy head Josep Borell. Mr Blinken said the US was working with its partners to protect European energy supplies "in the event that Russia turns off the spigot or initiates a conflict that disrupts the flow of gas through Ukraine".

Like Mr Macron, the German chancellor will also head to Kyiv later this week for further talks. The German foreign minister is already in the city, alongside counterparts from other European nations.

UK Defence Minister Ben Wallace meanwhile announced on Monday that his country would be sending an additional 350 troops to Poland amid tensions over Ukraine, to "send a strong signal that Britain and Poland stand side by side".
 
Is Russia preparing to invade Ukraine and what does Putin want?


Are Russian forces getting ready for war in Ukraine? At least 100,000 troops are positioned within reach of Ukraine's borders as Russia demands security guarantees from the West.

The US says Russia has 70% of the forces in place for a full-scale invasion, but Russia has repeatedly said it has no such plans. What happens next could jeopardise Europe's entire security structure.

Why is Russia threatening Ukraine?
Russia has long resisted Ukraine's move towards European institutions, and Nato in particular. Its core demand is for the West to guarantee Ukraine will not join Nato, a defensive alliance of 30 countries.

Ukraine shares borders with both the EU and Russia, but as a former Soviet republic it has deep social and cultural ties with Russia, and Russian is widely spoken there.

The threat is being taken seriously because Russia has invaded Ukraine before.

When Ukrainians deposed their pro-Russian president in early 2014, Russia annexed Ukraine's southern Crimean peninsula and backed separatists who captured large swathes of eastern Ukraine. The rebels have fought the Ukrainian military ever since in a conflict that has claimed more than 14,000 lives.

How big is the risk of invasion?
Russia says it has no plans to attack Ukraine: and armed forces chief Valery Gerasimov even denounced reports of an impending invasion as a lie.

Nato's secretary general warns the risk of conflict is very real. And while US officials have stressed they do not believe Russia has decided on an invasion, they think it could happen in the coming weeks.

President Biden's top military officer, Gen Mark Milley, has warned the scale of the Russian forces would cause a significant amount of casualties and fighting in urban areas would be horrific.

Ukraine is less convinced of the risk and its president has appealed to the West not to spread "panic". France believes Mr Putin's main aim is in gaining a better security deal.

Nevertheless, President Vladimir Putin has threatened "appropriate retaliatory military-technical measures" if what he calls the West's aggressive approach continues.

Thousands of Russian troops are taking part in exercises in Belarus, close to Ukraine's northern border, and Russia's deputy foreign minister recently compared the current situation to the 1962 Cuban missile crisis, when the US and Soviet Union came close to nuclear conflict.

What does Russia want from Nato?
Russia has spoken of a "moment of truth" in recasting its relationship with Nato. "For us it's absolutely mandatory to ensure Ukraine never, ever becomes a member of Nato," said Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov.

President Putin explained that if Ukraine joined Nato, the alliance might try to recapture Crimea.

Moscow accuses Nato countries of "pumping" Ukraine with weapons and the US of stoking tensions to contain Russia's development. Mr Putin has complained Russia has "nowhere further to retreat to - do they think we'll just sit idly by?"

In reality Russia wants Nato to return to its pre-1997 borders.

It demands no more eastward expansion and an end to Nato military activity in Eastern Europe. That would mean combat units being pulled out of Poland and the Baltic republics of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, and no missiles deployed in countries such as Poland and Romania.

In President Putin's eyes, the West promised back in 1990 that Nato would expand "not an inch to the east" but did so anyway.

That was before the collapse of the Soviet Union, however, so the promise made to then Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev only referred to East Germany in the context of a reunified Germany.

Mr Gorbachev said later that "the topic of Nato expansion was never discussed" at the time.

Russia has also proposed a treaty with the US barring nuclear weapons from being deployed beyond their national territories.


What does Russia want with Ukraine?
Russia seized Crimea in 2014 arguing it had a historic claim to it. Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union, which collapsed in December 1991 and Mr Putin said it was the "disintegration of historical Russia".

A clue to President Putin's thinking on Ukraine came in a lengthy piece last year when he called Russians and Ukrainians "one nation". He labelled Ukraine's current leaders as running an "anti-Russian project".

Russia has also become frustrated that a 2015 Minsk peace deal for eastern Ukraine is far from being fulfilled.

There are still no arrangements for independently monitored elections in the separatist regions. Russia denies accusations that it is part of the lingering conflict.

Can Russian action be stopped?
President Putin has spoken several times to Mr Biden and France's Emmanuel Macron says the Russian leader promised him during marathon talks that he "would not be the source of an escalation".

Ukraine: How big is Russia's military build-up?
The question is how far Russia will go. President Biden has warned that a full-scale invasion would be a disaster for Russia. But if it was a minor incursion, he said controversially that the West would "end up having to fight about what to do".

The White House has stressed any move across the border constitutes a renewed invasion - but points out Russia has other weapons, including cyber-attacks and paramilitary tactics. When 70 Ukrainian government websites went down in January, Russia denied Ukrainian accusations that it was behind the attack.

The Pentagon has accused Russia of preparing a so-called false-flag operation, with operatives ready to release graphic video of a fake attack to provide a pretext for invasion. Russia has denied it.

Russia has also handed out more than 500,000 passports in rebel-run areas, so if it does not get what it wants then it could justify any action as protecting its own citizens.

However, if Russia's only aim is to force Nato away from its backyard, there is no sign of it succeeding.

Nato's 30 members have turned down flat any attempt to tie their hands for the future. "We will not allow anyone to slam closed Nato's open-door policy," said US Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman.

Ukraine is looking for a clear timeline to join and Nato says Russia has "no veto, no right to interfere in that process".

And non-Nato members Sweden and Finland have also rejected Russia's attempt to stop them beefing up their ties with the alliance. "We will not let go of our room for manoeuvre," said Finland's prime minister.

How far will the West go for Ukraine?
The US and other Nato allies have made clear they have no plans to send combat troops to Ukraine itself but are instead offering support. The Pentagon has put 8,500 combat-ready troops on alert and is deploying 3,000 extra soldiers to Germany, Romania and Poland.

The main tools in the West's armoury appear to be sanctions and military aid in the form of advisers and weapons.

Poland has offered an array of surveillance drones, mortar bombs and portable air-defence systems. The UK, Denmark, Canada, the Czech Republic and Baltic republics have also offered security assistance.

President Biden has threatened Russia's leader with measures "like none he's ever seen" if Ukraine is attacked. So what would they involve?

The ultimate economic hit would be to disconnect Russia's banking system from the international Swift payment system. That has always been seen very much as a last resort, and there is concern it could badly impact the US and European economies.

Another key threat is to prevent the opening of Russia's Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline in Germany, and approval for that is currently being decided by Germany's energy regulator.

President Biden has also warned that he would consider personal sanctions on Vladimir Putin, if Russia invades Ukraine. The UK has also warned that "those in and around the Kremlin will have nowhere to hide".

What would a deal look like?
A potential agreement would have to cover both the war in eastern Ukraine and the wider security issue. After visiting Moscow, President Macron said talks would soon be revived and include Russia and Ukraine along with France and Germany - known as the Normandy quartet.

Ukraine is deeply unhappy about the terms of the Minsk peace agreements of 2014 and 2015, which it feels gave away too much to Russia and the separatists. "Like it or not, my beauty, you have to put up with it," were President Putin's words on the issue to Ukraine's leader.

An indication of where the West might be looking on a wider security deal with Russia could stem from a leaked document sent to Moscow by the US and Nato.

In it, the US says it could be willing to start talks on limiting short- and medium-range missiles as well as offering negotiations on a new Start treaty on intercontinental missiles.

Washington would also provide reassurance that it had no cruise missiles in Poland or Romania as part of a "transparency mechanism", with Russia providing reassurance on two Russian missiles bases.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56720589
 
Ukraine crisis: PM urges Nato allies not to compromise principles



Prime Minister Boris Johnson is to travel to Brussels and Warsaw on Thursday in support of Nato allies, as he says the alliance must not compromise its principles.

He said Nato must draw "lines in the snow" amid tensions over Ukraine, including the right of every European democracy to aspire to membership.

Russia wants assurances Ukraine will not be allowed to join the alliance.

It denies plans to invade but has well over 100,000 troops near the border.

The prime minister's trip is part of a surge of diplomatic activity, with Foreign Secretary Liz Truss and Defence Secretary Ben Wallace also due to meet their Russian counterparts in Moscow on Thursday.

Ahead of the first visit to Russia by a UK foreign secretary in four years, Ms Truss said she was determined to stand up for freedom and democracy in Ukraine and intended to urge Moscow to pursue a diplomatic solution.

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer is also expected to meet the Nato secretary-general.

France's President Emmanuel Macron said talks with Russia and Ukraine, which began earlier this week, could also resume on Thursday.

Mr Macron told reporters on Wednesday that President Vladimir Putin had assured him Russian forces would not ramp up the crisis, but Russia said it had given no such guarantee.

Tensions continue to mount, with the US criticising large-scale Russian military drills about to take place over 10 days in Belarus, Ukraine's neighbour, as "escalatory".

The crisis is the latest stage in a long-running conflict, which began in 2014 when Russia annexed Ukraine's southern Crimea peninsula. Russian-backed separatists control swathes of territory in eastern Ukraine and at least 14,000 people have been killed.

Mr Johnson will meet the Nato secretary-general in Brussels and Poland's president and prime minister in Warsaw, intending to show solidarity with Nato allies who are most at risk from Russian hostilities.

The prime minister announced 1,000 more British troops will be put on alert in the UK, with the government warning of a possible "humanitarian crisis", if a Russian incursion into Ukraine sends people fleeing into neighbouring countries.

Meanwhile, 350 Royal Marines from 45 Commando are to begin deploying to Poland as part of support announced for the country earlier this week.

The UK will also offer to double the number of its troops in Estonia, deploy more RAF jets based in southern Europe, and to sail a Type 45 destroyer and HMS Trent, a patrol ship, in the eastern Mediterranean.



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Boris Johnson has warned "the stakes are very high" amid ongoing fears of a Russian invasion of Ukraine, and warned that the next few days are probably the "most dangerous moment".

Holding a news briefing with NATO secretary general Jens Stoltenberg, the prime minister said it was "time to de-escalate" adding: "We must resist, we must oppose any return to the days when fates of nations are decided over their heads by a handful of great powers."

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Sergei Lavrov, who serves as Vladimir Putin’s most senior diplomat, lashed out at the British foreign secretary during a press conference.

The rancorous meeting saw Mr Lavrov accuse the British delegation of grandstanding and failing to listen.

During a tense question and answer session after private talks, he said: ‘I’m honestly disappointed that what we have is a conversation between a dumb and a deaf person.

‘It seems like we listen but don’t hear. At least, our most detailed explanations fell on unprepared soil.

‘They say Russia is waiting until the ground freezes like a stone so its tanks can easily cross into Ukrainian territory.

‘I think the ground was like that today with our British colleagues, from which numerous facts that we produced bounced off.’

A day of talks began with Mr Lavrov warning he was not prepared to listen to a lecture, adding: ‘Ideological approaches, ultimatums and moralizing is a road to nowhere.’

Ms Truss hit back during the press conference, saying: ‘I certainly wasn’t mute in our discussions earlier, I put forward the UK’s point of view on the current situation as well as seeking to deter Russia from an invasion of Ukraine.’

She also rejected the Kremlin line out of hand that the huge troop build-up on Ukraine’s border is not a precursor to an invasion.

The foreign secretary said: ‘Minister Lavrov has said to me today that Russia have no plans to invade Ukraine, but we need to see those words followed up by actions and we need to see the troops and the equipment that is stationed on the Ukraine border moved elsewhere, because at present it is in a very threatening posture.’

Her much-hyped trip to Moscow comes as part of a coordinated diplomatic push which has seen Boris Johnson sit down for talks with Nato chiefs in Brussels.

The prime minister signed off on plans to increase the number of UK troops and assets assigned to Nato deployments along to the bloc’s eastern flank.

Speaking alongside the military alliance’s general secretary, Mr Johnson said he thought there was still a diplomatic route out of the crisis but the outlook remains bleak.

He said: ‘I honestly don’t think a decision has yet been taken, but that doesn’t mean that it is impossible that something absolutely disastrous could happen very soon indeeed.

‘And our intelligence, I’m afraid to say, remains grim and we’re seeing the massing of huge numbers of tactical battalion groups on the borders of Ukraine – 70 or more.

‘This is probably the most dangerous moment, I would say – in the course of the next few days – in what is the biggest security crisis that Europe has faced for decades and we’ve got to get it right.’

UK defence secretary Ben Wallace is also expected in Moscow for talks in the coming days.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60355311

<b>Russia-Ukraine crisis: UK nationals told to leave Ukraine</b>

British nationals in Ukraine should leave the country now - "while commercial means are available", the Foreign Office has said.

Earlier, President Joe Biden told US citizens to leave amid fears of a Russian invasion.

Russia has repeatedly denied any plans to invade Ukraine despite massing more than 100,000 troops near the border.

The announcement after Boris Johnson told world leaders, in a virtual call, he feared for the security of Europe.

During the talks, Mr Johnson called for allies to have a "heavy package of economic sanctions ready to go" should Russia make the "devastating and destructive decision" to invade Ukraine, Downing Street said.

The leaders agreed that if Russian President Vladimir Putin deescalated "there was another way forward" and they pledged to redouble diplomatic efforts in the coming days, Downing Street said.

The Foreign Office, which also now advises against all travel to Ukraine, estimates there are a few thousand British nationals in Ukraine.

It said that, due to this increased threat, further embassy staff would be withdrawn from Kyiv - the embassy will remain open but be unable to provide in-person consular assistance to any Britons who remain.

Several other countries have also advised their nationals to leave the country including the Netherlands, Japan and South Korea.

Earlier on Friday, Defence Secretary Ben Wallace met his Russian counterpart Sergei Shogiu and said at a news conference afterwards that an invasion of Ukraine would have "tragic consequences" for both countries.

Mr Wallace said Russian forces were in the position to invade "at any time" but said Sergei Shogiu had given him security assurances.
 
Russia could invade Ukraine "at any time" and American citizens should leave immediately, the US has warned.

An invasion could start with aerial bombing that would make departures difficult and endanger civilians, the White House said on Friday.

Moscow has repeatedly denied any plans to invade Ukraine despite massing more than 100,000 troops near the border.

The US statement prompted countries around the world to issue fresh warnings to nationals in Ukraine.

The UK, Australia, Canada and the Netherlands are among those urging citizens to leave as soon as possible.

However, attempts to de-escalate tensions through diplomacy are set to continue on Saturday, with both US President Joe Biden and France's President Emmanuel Macron due to speak to Russia's Vladimir Putin by phone.

Moscow, meanwhile, has accused Western countries of stirring up hysteria.

US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said Russian forces were now "in a position to be able to mount a major military action" in remarks seen as a clear escalation in the urgency of warnings from US officials.

"We obviously cannot predict the future, we don't know exactly what is going to happen, but the risk is now high enough and the threat is now immediate enough that [leaving] is prudent," he said.

Mr Sullivan added that the administration did not know if Russian President Vladimir Putin had made a final decision to invade, but said that the Kremlin was looking for a pretext to justify military action, which he said could start with intense aerial bombardment.

His comments came as US officials warned of a further build-up of Russian troops at Ukraine's borders over the past week and planned Russian military exercises in the Black Sea in the coming days.

Earlier, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the increase in Russian forces at the border was "very troubling signs of Russian escalation".

"We're in a window when an invasion could begin at any time, and to be clear, that includes during the Olympics [which end on 20 February]," Mr Blinken said.

President Biden has said that he would not send troops to rescue any citizens left stranded in the event of Russian action.

On Friday, the US president hosted a video call with transatlantic leaders in which they agreed on co-ordinated action to inflict severe economic consequences on Russia if it invaded Ukraine.

The US also said it was deploying a further 3,000 troops from Fort Bragg, North Carolina, to Poland, and that they were expected to arrive there next week. The troops will not fight in Ukraine, but will ensure the defence of US allies.

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<b>Ukraine tensions: A dozen nations tell citizens to leave Ukraine</b>

More than a dozen countries have urged their citizens to leave Ukraine amid warnings from Western powers that an invasion by Russia could be imminent.

The US, UK and Germany are among those who told their nationals to leave.

Moscow has amassed an estimated 100,000 troops along Ukraine's border but denies any intent to invade.

In a phone call, US President Joe Biden again warned Russian leader Vladimir Putin of the costs of any invasion.

For his part, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said invasion warnings could stoke panic, which he called "the best friend of our enemies".

The White House has warned that an invasion could happen at any time, and could begin with bombing from the air.

Russia characterised such allegations as "provocative speculation".

Non-essential staff have been ordered to leave the US Embassy in Ukraine's capital Kyiv, and consular services will be suspended from Sunday, although "a small consular presence" will remain in the western city of Lviv "to handle emergencies".

Canada is also moving its embassy staff to Lviv, near the border with Poland, Canadian media reported.

UK ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons tweeted that she and a "core team" are staying in Kyiv.

Russia itself is also making changes, saying it will "optimise the staffing" of its diplomats in Ukraine, citing "possible acts of provocation by the Kyiv regime or third countries".

The US has also pulled some 150 troops who were training Ukrainian soldiers out of the country, citing an abundance of caution.

And Dutch airline KLM announced it would stop flying to Ukraine, effective immediately, Dutch media said.

Mr Zelensky said that if Western powers had any firm evidence of an impending invasion, he had yet to see it.

"I think there is too much information in the media about a deep, full-scale war," he said.

"We understand all the risks, we understand that they exist. If you or someone else has additional 100% reliable information about the Russian Federation's invasion of Ukraine... please share it with us."

Many countries, including Australia, Italy, Israel, the Netherlands and Japan have told their citizens to leave Ukraine.

Some have also evacuated diplomatic staff and their families.

Mr Biden told Mr Putin that any invasion would result in "swift and severe costs on Russia", White House notes about the call said.

"While the United States remains prepared to engage in diplomacy... we are equally prepared for other scenarios," it said.

French President Emmanuel Macron also spoke to Mr Putin by phone on Saturday, telling him that "a sincere dialogue was not compatible with escalation", according to notes released by the French embassy.

In Kyiv, meanwhile, several thousand people marched through the city on Saturday, chanting slogans pledging loyalty to Ukraine and resistance to any Russian invasion.

The march was organised by a right-wing nationalist group called Gonor and anti-Zelensky far-right activist Sergiy Sternenko, but it attracted a wider crowd.

BBC reporter Eleanor Montague says the demonstration was not huge, but was the first significant manifestation of public feeling since tensions escalated, finishing at the symbolic Maidan Square.

Sasha Nizelska, who works as a nanny in Kyiv, told the BBC that she would resist a Russian attack with all means in her power.

The sentiment was repeated by people of all age groups attending the demonstration.

Tensions have steadily increased as Russia has continued to deploy troops along Ukraine's eastern border.

Russian troops are also staging military exercises in Belarus to the north, while naval exercises in the Sea of Azov in the south-east have led to accusations that Russia is blocking Ukraine's access to the sea.

Meanwhile, some 7,500km (4,660 miles) away on Russia's eastern side, the Russian defence ministry says it spotted a US Navy submarine inside its territorial waters.

Officials say the US submarine was near the Kuril Islands and failed to surface when instructed.

The Marshal Shaposhnikov destroyer took unspecified "appropriate" actions and the US submarine left the area, the ministry said.

A US defence official has been summoned by Moscow over the incident.

The Pentagon has not commented on the Russian report of the incident.

BBC
 
<b>Russia-Ukraine crisis: UK won’t be able to fly people out - minister</b>

The UK will not be able to fly British nationals out of Ukraine if Russia invades, Armed Forces Minister James Heappey has warned.

He told the BBC the RAF would "not be in a position to go in" and people there should "leave now".
Mr Heappey said the advice had changed because Russia was in a position where it could attack "at no notice".

Russia has denied any plans to invade Ukraine despite massing more than 100,000 troops near the border.

On Friday, the UK Foreign Office warned British nationals in Ukraine to leave the country within 48 hours while commercial means were still available.

A number of other countries have issued similar advice.

The US also said Russia could invade "any day now" and told its own citizens to leave - although it said the US did not know whether President Vladimir Putin had made a final decision.

Both French President Emmanuel Macron and US President Joe Biden spoke with Mr Putin on Saturday.

Foreign Secretary Liz Truss said she spoke to her US counterpart, Secretary of State Antony Blinken and shared her "acute concerns" of military aggression against Ukraine within days.

She tweeted: "We agree Russia will face massive consequences for any invasion, including severe sanctions. Russia must deescalate and engage with Nato proposals."

Moscow has accused Western countries of stirring up hysteria.

Following a call with world leaders on Friday, Prime Minister Boris Johnson said he feared for the security of Europe and urged allies to have a "heavy package of economic sanctions ready to go" should Russia attack, Downing Street confirmed.

Speaking to BBC Breakfast, Mr Heappey said: "We are now confident that the artillery systems, the missile systems and the combat air are all in place that would allow Russia to launch - at no notice - an attack on Ukraine."

But he warned there would be "a big difference between what [people] may have seen on their TV screens in Afghanistan over the summer and what may happen over the next week or so" - referring to the international airlift to rescue people after the fall of Kabul to the Taliban last year.

"The Royal Air Force will not be in a position to go in and to fly people out so they need to leave now by commercial means or drive out of Ukraine into a neighbouring country," he said.

British troops helping with training in Ukraine will also be leaving the country over the weekend, Mr Heappey added on BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

“There will be no troops in Ukraine if there's going to be a conflict there."

Some embassy staff are also being withdrawn but British ambassador to Ukraine, Melinda Simmons, said on Twitter:

“I am staying in Kyiv and continue to work there with a core team. The embassy remains operational."

The BBC's Paul Adams in Kyiv said there were signs of urgency and departure at the British embassy, with staff loading bags into a car and driving off.

Nobody seemed keen to talk.

The capital does not feel like a city in crisis though, our correspondent added.

Former British ambassador to the US Lord Kim Darroch said embassy and Foreign Office staff would be working around the clock to make sure British people in Ukraine - thought to number in the low thousands - were aware of the advice to leave.

"It will overwhelm the embassy's resources, you can't assume all the Brits in the country will hear this so you have to contact them," he told the Today programme.

"You may have to arrange an emergency telephone line, you'll need to send people to the airport where, with lots of foreign nationals trying to get out, there will be chaos.

“There may need to be extra flights laid on so this will occupy everyone's time for 24 hours a day for the next few days and you won't get everyone out - some people will choose to stay."

On Friday, Tobias Ellwood, Conservative MP and chair of the defence select committee, raised concerns about the rhetoric being used by Washington.

He told BBC's Newsnight: "It's almost bordering on panic and that absolutely fits into Putin's objective.

“He'll be delighted to see the West and the Nato alliance crumbling in this way."

Nato's 30 members - which include the UK, US and several former Soviet republics - agree to come to another's aid in the event of an armed attack.

Ukraine is not a member of Nato.

However, it is a "partner country" and may be allowed to join the military alliance sometime in the future, a move Russia sees as a direct threat to its security.

The UK has made continued diplomatic efforts this week, with the prime minister visiting allies in Belgium and Poland, and Foreign Secretary Liz Truss meeting her Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov.

Ms Truss's meeting proved to be ill-tempered, with Mr Lavrov saying relations between the UK and Russia left "much to be desired".

On Friday, Defence Secretary Ben Wallace met his Russian counterpart Sergei Shogiu, who he said had given him security assurances.

Mr Heappey reiterated that diplomatic lines were still being pursued.

He told BBC Breakfast: "Clearly the only route to a peaceful outcome is if talks continue, and I think if talks continue there has to be a willingness to believe what each side says to each other."

BBC
 
<b>Ukraine tensions: US defends evacuating embassy as Zelensky urges calm — UK minister says attack by Russia on Ukraine “highly likely”</b>

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said the "imminent" threat of Russian military action in Ukraine justifies evacuating the US embassy in Kyiv.

His words came after Ukraine's president urged calm, saying the biggest enemy was panic.

More than a dozen countries have urged their citizens to leave Ukraine.

Moscow, with more than 100,000 troops near the border, has denied it plans to invade.

The Kremlin's top foreign policy advisor, Yuri Ushakov, has dismissed US warnings of an attack, saying "hysteria has reached its peak".

The crisis comes eight years after Russia annexed Ukraine's southern Crimea peninsula.

Since then, Ukraine's military has been locked in a war with Russian-backed rebels in eastern areas near Russia's borders.

Saturday saw further attempts to de-escalate tensions in the region.

In a phone call, President Joe Biden warned Russian leader Vladimir Putin of "swift and severe costs" if Russia sends in troops.

Mr Biden will speak to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky later on Sunday by phone.

UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace, meanwhile, compared recent Western diplomatic efforts to stop an invasion to the appeasement of Nazi Germany.

Mr Wallace told the Sunday Times newspaper "there's a whiff of Munich in the air", a reference to an agreement with Hitler that failed to prevent World War Two.

Ukraine's ambassador to the UK Vadym Prystaiko however criticised Mr Wallace's comments.

"It's not the best time for us to offend our partners in the world, reminding them of this act which actually [brought] war," he told BBC Radio 4's Broadcasting House programme.

The UK, US and Germany are among several countries who have urged their nationals to get out of Ukraine immediately.

The US decision to evacuate most of its embassy staff in Kyiv was followed by similar moves by Canada and Australia.

All three nations have instead shifted operations to the western city of Lviv, near the Polish border, although the UK ambassador has said she will stay in the Ukrainian capital with a core team.

Mr Blinken said the risk of military action was "high enough and the threat [was] imminent enough" that the evacuation was "the prudent thing to do".

But earlier Ukrainian President Zelensky had urged calm, saying: "Right now, the people's biggest enemy is panic."

Mr Zelensky said that if Western powers had any firm evidence of an impending invasion, he had yet to see it.

The BBC's Zhanna Bezpiatchuk says there are no major signs of panic in Kyiv or other major Ukrainian cities.

However, she added that Ukrainians are starting to take the threat from Russia increasingly seriously and are taking their own contingency measures.

An emergency evacuation plan for Kyiv's three million residents has been drawn up by the capital's mayor's office as a precaution.

The White House has warned that an invasion could happen at any time, and could begin with bombing from the air.

Meanwhile Dutch airline KLM announced on Saturday it would indefinitely halt all flights to Ukraine in light of the tensions.

The airline has not flown over eastern parts of Ukraine or Crimea since 2014.

German carrier Lufthansa has said it is considering suspending flights.

An adviser to the Ukrainian president's chief of staff told Reuters news agency the country "sees no point" in closing its airspace, calling the idea "nonsense".

But later on Sunday the head of Ukraine's air traffic control advised airlines to avoid a "potentially dangerous zone" over the Black Sea - where Russian forces are holding their largest naval drills in years - between 14-19 February.

He stressed however that Ukrainian airspace "is currently open and available for flight planning".

Tensions have steadily increased as Russia has continued to deploy troops along Ukraine's eastern border.

The Kremlin says it cannot accept that Ukraine - a former Soviet republic with deep social and cultural ties with Russia - could one day join the Western defence alliance Nato, and has demanded that this be ruled out.

The US has rejected that, saying that as a sovereign nation Ukraine should be free to decide its own security alliances.

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These next few days will be crucial.

The BBC's Zhanna Bezpiatchuk says there are no major signs of panic in Kyiv or other major Ukrainian cities.

Mass Zionist media is feeding us panic but I guess the ground reality in Ukraine is different.
 
UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson says the "evidence is pretty clear" that Russia is planning an invasion of Ukraine.

Johnson cuts short a trip to North West England as he says there are "signs that show that there are serious preparations" being made by Russia.

He is due to discuss the situation with US President Joe Biden later.

Russia denies plans to invade Ukraine, despite massing 100,000 soldiers on Ukraine's borders and a reported 30,000 close to the Belarus-Ukraine border.

More than a dozen countries, including the UK and the US, have urged their citizens to leave Ukraine amid warnings of an "imminent" invasion.

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has met Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Kyiv as part of efforts to defuse tension.

Western nations are ready to impose "very far-reaching and effective sanctions" in the event of any Russian incursion, Scholz says.

Russia wants assurances Ukraine will never be allowed to join Nato - but the alliance's members have opposed this.


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I am now of the opinion this entire Russia/Ukraine sage is nothing but a smokescreen.

Biden has hit an all time low in ratings (even lower than Trump), his mental state is being questioned day by day, inflation has hit above 7% in USA. Meanwhile Boris is still limping with Party-gate and inflation, while EU are just sliding into the abyss.

So news of war will always act as the perfect bait and switch for war mongering nations.
 
Russia has not amassed some 100,000 troops on the Ukraine border for a picnic. If Pak or India had done such a thing we would day war was imminent. On the other hand Putin being afraid of Ukraine joining an anti Russia NATO also appears unconvincing. More then Putin the west and NATO want war with Russia maybe even China. I wouldn't be surprised if they told us Russia was about to nuke Ukraine so lets do them first like they told the world of the Iraq WMD lies.
 
The sheep that are the people need to be kept engaged in one supposed catastrophe after another. Now that the Covid has someone died down they need to start another one. Now certain sections of the media are saying Covid was just like a flue after all. Now Putin has become the blood sucking vampire! There has to be some big time villain in the world.
 
I am now of the opinion this entire Russia/Ukraine sage is nothing but a smokescreen.

Biden has hit an all time low in ratings (even lower than Trump), his mental state is being questioned day by day, inflation has hit above 7% in USA. Meanwhile Boris is still limping with Party-gate and inflation, while EU are just sliding into the abyss.

So news of war will always act as the perfect bait and switch for war mongering nations.

According to the prophecy of the west, the invasion of Ukraine by Russia will be being on Wednesday!

Unless the western intel do a false flag attack against Russian troops on the border, its very unlikley any invasion will take place any time soon.
 
<b>Ukraine crisis: Biden and Johnson say still hope for diplomatic agreement</b>

The US and UK leaders have said not all hope is lost for a diplomatic solution to the Ukraine crisis, but warn that the situation remains fragile.

In a 40-minute call, Joe Biden and Boris Johnson agreed a deal was still possible despite a chorus of warnings of imminent Russian military action.

Russia has always denied plans to invade Ukraine, despite massing more than 100,000 troops on the border.

On Monday its foreign minister said diplomacy was "far from exhausted".

More than a dozen nations have urged their citizens to leave Ukraine, and the US has said aerial bombardments could begin "at any time".

But in their conversation US President Joe Biden and UK PM Boris Johnson said there remained a "crucial window" for diplomacy, according to a Downing Street statement.

"The Prime Minister and President Biden updated one another on their recent discussions with fellow world leaders," it said.

"They agreed there remained a crucial window for diplomacy and for Russia to step back from its threats towards Ukraine.

"The leaders emphasised that any further incursion into Ukraine would result in a protracted crisis for Russia, with far-reaching damage for both Russia and the world," the statement added.

Mr Johnson is expected to hold a Cobra meeting on Tuesday to discuss the UK's response to the pressures.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60382694
 
The Anglo-Saxons are planning a false flag operation and will blame it on Russia to get things started as always. War is necessary for them. When one ends, they will start another.

Russia has sent a ten page text as the last effort for diplomacy. Let's see what happens.
 
Russia's defence ministry says some troops positioned on the border with Ukraine are returning to their bases after completing drills

It raises hopes of possible de-escalation after Russia's foreign minister said diplomacy was "far from exhausted"

The EU meanwhile says it is willing to discuss Moscow's security concerns

But it warns a key Russian gas pipeline to Germany - Nordstream 2 - would "not become operational" in the event of war

Germany's leader Olaf Scholz is set to meet Vladimir Putin in Moscow later after visiting Kyiv on Monday

Prime Minister Boris Johnson is expected to hold a Cobra meeting later to discuss the UK's response

Russia, which denies it plans to invade, wants assurances Ukraine will never be allowed to join the Nato defence alliance
 
Russia has said some military units are returning to their bases as its foreign ministry said the West has been "humiliated" over its warnings about an invasion of Ukraine.

The Russian Military of Defence (MoD) said it has been carrying out planned training exercises, including with Belarus, but some of those have been completed so a number of troops on Ukraine's border have begun heading back to their bases today.
 
If Putin really wanted to invade he would have done it by now...

Americans are war mongering for reasons only known to them, I highly doubt there would be a conflict and if Putin doesn't invade, then Biden loses face in front of the world...

Move on, nothing is going to happen here imo..
 
After the 2002 attack on the Indian parliament by Lakshae E Toiba and co, both India and Pakistan mobilized closed to a million troops largest since the 1971 war and still nothing happened.

So dont think anything will happen in the Russia, Ukraine scenario.
 
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-pullout-meets-uk-scepticism-ukraine-defence-website-still-hacked-2022-02-16/

The United States and NATO said Russia was still building up troops around Ukraine on Wednesday despite Moscow's insistence it was pulling back, questioning President Vladimir Putin's stated desire to negotiate a solution to the crisis.

In Ukraine, where people raised flags and played the national anthem to show unity against fears of an invasion, the government said a cyber attack that hit the defence ministry was the worst of its kind that the country had seen. It pointed the finger towards Russia, which denied involvement.

The Russian defence ministry said its forces were pulling back after exercises in southern and western military districts near Ukraine - part of a huge build-up that was accompanied by demands for sweeping security guarantees from Washington and NATO.

It published video that it said showed tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and self-propelled artillery units leaving the Crimean peninsula, which Moscow seized from Ukraine in 2014.

But U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said key Russian units were moving towards the border, not away.

"There's what Russia says. And then there's what Russia does. And we haven't seen any pullback of its forces," Blinken said in an interview on MSNBC. "We continue to see critical units moving toward the border, not away from the border."

A senior Western intelligence official said the risk of Russian aggression against Ukraine would remain high for the rest of February and Russia could still attack Ukraine "with essentially no, or little-to-no, warning".

NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said moving troops and tanks back and forth did not amount to proof of a pullout.

"We have not seen any withdrawal of Russian forces. And of course, that contradicts the message of diplomatic efforts," Stoltenberg said before a meeting of the alliance in Brussels. "What we see is that they have increased the number of troops and more troops are on their way. So, so far, no de-escalation."

The Kremlin said NATO's assessment was wrong. Moscow's ambassador to Ireland said forces in western Russia would be back to their normal positions within three to four weeks.

World stocks crept higher on Wednesday for a second day and safe-haven assets such as government bonds lost ground, though moves were checked by the Western scepticism over a pullback. Russia says it never planned to attack Ukraine but wants to lay down "red lines" to prevent its neighbour from joining NATO, which it sees as a threat to its own security.

The Kremlin said Putin was keen to negotiate with the United States, which has offered discussions on arms control and confidence-building measures while ruling out a veto on future NATO membership for Ukraine.

But Russia also said it would be ready to re-route energy exports to other markets if it was hit by sanctions, which Washington and its allies have threatened if it invades Ukraine.

Finance Minister Anton Siluanov said sanctions against Russian banks would be "unpleasant" but the state would ensure all deposits with banks and transactions were secured. "They say we have a financial shield in the form of gold and forex reserves, budget surplus ... low debt," he told reporters.

Russia has accused the United States of hysterical war propaganda after repeated warnings of a possible attack and reports in some Western media that it would happen on Wednesday.

U.S. President Joe Biden said on Tuesday that more than 150,000 Russian troops were still massed near Ukraine's borders and an invasion remained "distinctly possible".

Military analysts say a significant pullback would involve field hospitals and fuel stores being dismantled and units from Russia's far east, which are taking part in huge exercises in Belarus this week, returning to bases thousands of miles away.

Russia security specialist Mark Galeotti said the absence of an attack did not mean that "Putin blinked".

"Putin could have invaded yesterday, he can still do so tomorrow," he wrote on Twitter.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said he did not see any sign of a Russian troop withdrawal. "For now, it’s just a statement," the BBC quoted him as saying during a visit to western Ukraine.

Zelenskiy designated Wednesday a patriotic holiday in response to the reports Russia could invade on that day. "No one can love our home as we can. And only we, together, can protect our home," he said. The defence ministry said hackers were still bombarding its website and had found vulnerabilities but that traffic was being rerouted to servers in the United States while the issue was being fixed.

A senior Ukrainian security official said the only country interested in such cyber attacks was Russia. The Kremlin denied Russia was involved but said it was not surprised Ukraine would blame Moscow.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Putin had "taken note" of a request from Russia's parliament on Tuesday for him to recognise the "independence" of two breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine where Russian-backed separatists have been fighting Ukrainian government forces since 2014.

But he said that would not be line with agreements aimed at ending the conflict, in which Ukraine says some 15,000 people have been killed, indicating Putin would not rush to recognise the separatist areas but might keep the option in reserve.

Blinken said such a step would undermine Ukraine’s sovereignty, violate international law and "necessitate a swift and firm response from the United States in full coordination with our Allies and partners".
 
<b>Ukraine conflict: Rebels declare general mobilisation as fighting grows</b>

Ukraine's Russian-backed breakaway eastern territories have ordered military mobilisations amid a deadly escalation in fighting.

Men of fighting age in the self-declared people's republics of Donetsk and Luhansk are being put on stand-by.

Monitors report a "dramatic increase" in attacks along the line dividing rebel and government forces.

A Ukrainian soldier was killed by shelling on Saturday morning, the first such death reported in weeks.

US President Joe Biden says he is convinced Russia will invade Ukraine, an allegation Moscow denies.

His Defence Secretary, Lloyd Austin, said Russian forces were beginning to "uncoil and move closer" to the border with Ukraine.

In the German city of Munich, US Vice-President Kamala Harris told a security conference that if Russia did invade, the US and its allies would impose a "significant and unprecedented economic cost", targeting its financial institutions and key industries, as well as those who aided and abetted such an invasion.

Western nations have accused Russia of trying to stage a crisis in the breakaway regions to give it a reason to launch an offensive.

The US estimates there are 169,000-190,000 Russian personnel massed along Ukraine's borders, a figure that includes separatist fighters in Donetsk and Luhansk.

Russian President Vladimir Putin, who is overseeing major drills of Russia's strategic nuclear missile forces on Saturday, has said the situation in eastern Ukraine is deteriorating.

He said he remained willing to discuss the crisis with Western leaders, but accused them of ignoring Russia's security concerns.

Ukraine, a former Soviet republic with historic ties to Russia, is not a member of Nato or the European Union but has close relations with both.

Accurate figures are difficult to establish but as many as 3.5 million people live in the two rebel territories, which broke away in 2014 after Ukraine's pro-Russian government was overthrown.

Since then, at least 720,000 have acquired Russian citizenship, according to Russian media.

A number of civilians have been evacuated from the rebel territories to neighbouring Russia, with at least 6,500 leaving Donetsk, according to the separatists.

One person in rebel-controlled Luhansk told BBC News on condition of anonymity that the separatists were trying to stir panic deliberately and said local people were wary of evacuating.

Another in rebel-controlled Donetsk confirmed that some people were leaving and added, "People just want that somebody finally can take control and responsibility for these separatist-held territories whoever it would be - Russia or Ukraine".

Details of the Ukrainian soldier's death were not given but it was contained in a report that spoke of artillery, mortar and grenade attacks by the separatists.

International observers from the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe have been monitoring a truce between the separatists and government forces, who have fought a bloody war at a cost of at least 14,000 lives.

On Friday, the observer mission reported "a dramatic increase in kinetic activity along the contact line in eastern Ukraine, equal to the numbers of ceasefire violations reported" before July 2020.

Its latest daily report - for Thursday - registered 870 ceasefire violations, including 654 explosions.

It also confirmed a kindergarten had been damaged earlier in the week in government-controlled territory.

Late on Friday, President Biden said he believed Mr Putin had decided to launch an invasion of Ukraine.

"As of this moment I am convinced that he has made the decision," he said.

Previously, the president and his top officials have said they did not know whether this was the case.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60443504
 
<b>Ukraine: Shock of invasion would echo around the world, Boris Johnson says</b>

The shock of any invasion of Ukraine by Russia would "echo around the world", Boris Johnson has told world leaders.

He said we must be "unflinchingly honest" about the situation in Ukraine and should not "underestimate the gravity of this moment".

In a speech at a security conference in Munich, Mr Johnson said he does not know what Russian President Vladimir Putin intends, but "omens are grim".

"And that is why we must stand strong together," he said.

Western nations have warned Russia could invade Ukraine imminently, with over 130,000 of its troops near the border.

They accuse Russia of trying to stage a fake crisis in a breakaway eastern region of Ukraine to give it a reason to invade.

But Russia has repeatedly denied having plans to invade, saying troops are conducting military exercises in the region, accusing the West of "hysteria".

Mr Johnson stressed the UK still hoped diplomacy and dialogue would still succeed in resolving the crisis.

Urging unity among the UK's Western allies, he said: "Every time that Western ministers have visited Kyiv, we have assured the people of Ukraine and their leaders that we stand foursquare behind their sovereignty and independence.

"How hollow, how meaningless, how insulting those words would seem, if at the very moment when their sovereignty and independence is imperilled, we simply look away."

If Ukraine were invaded, Mr Johnson said "we will witness the destruction of a democratic state, a country that has been free for a generation, with a proud history of elections".

Ukraine is a former Soviet republic with historic ties to Russia and shares borders with both the EU and Russia.

Russia has long resisted Ukraine's move towards Western institutions, including Nato, seeing the eastward expansion of the military alliance as a threat to its security.

The prime minister warned that any invasion would also be met with sanctions on Russian individuals and companies.

He said the UK would "open up the Matryoshka dolls" of certain Russian-owned companies and make it impossible for them to raise finance in London.

His comments follow the announcement of new legislation allowing the UK to widen its sanctions against the country.

"If Ukraine is invaded, the shock will echo around the world, and those echoes will be heard in East Asia they will be heard in Taiwan," he told the Munich Security Conference.

Mr Johnson met Ukraine's president Volodymyr Zelensky, who said they had agreed "joint next steps" and remained united in the pursuit of de-escalation and diplomacy.

In a statement, Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer said the party was "steadfast in our support for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine".

"We stand in solidary with the Ukrainian people and in unity with our international partners and Nato allies in warning President Putin that any attack will lead to immediate, severe and extensive sanctions," he said.

He said Labour supported the actions the government was taking to bring about an end to the stand-off, adding that "diplomacy can still succeed".

Writing on Twitter, former Prime Minister Theresa May said Boris Johnson was "right to press the case for continued diplomacy, while preparing the most severe sanctions for Russia if Putin chooses the catastrophe of war".

Also speaking at the conference, US Vice-President Kamala Harris said Russia faced "swift, severe and united" economic consequences if it were to invade.

She accused Russia of narrowing the avenues for diplomacy, saying "their simply do not match their words".

Her remarks come after Moscow said some of its troops had moved away from the border in recent days - but Western powers said there was no evidence of withdrawal.

On Friday, US President Joe Biden said he is convinced Mr Putin has decided to invade and that an assault could happen in the "coming days".

Mr Biden said the assessment was based on US intelligence, which suggested the capital Kyiv would be targeted.

Other Western politicians taking part in the three-day security conference include German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and US Vice-President Kamala Harris.

But Russia will not be officially represented at the summit for the first time since 1999 amid the rising tensions over the situation at Ukraine's borders.

Meanwhile, the Home Office has scrapped a visa scheme offering rich foreign investors fast-track residency, amid pressure on ministers over UK links to Russia.

Labour has demanded the immediate publication of an ongoing review into visas granted between 2008 - when the scheme was introduced - and 2015 when checks on applicants were tightened.

The Liberal Democrats have also demanded a "clear timetable" for revoking visas issued to any Russians "who have been flagged as posing a national security risk".

The security conference in Germany comes as Ukrainian forces and Russia-backed rebels in the country's east continued to accuse each other of shelling and other ceasefire violations on Friday.

Such breaks in the area's years-long ceasefire are not uncommon, and each side blamed the other for the violence on Thursday.

On Friday, Washington increased its estimate of the number of Russian troops deployed around Ukraine to between 169,000 and 190,000.

Ukraine's defence minister has suggested a figure of 149,000.
 
<b>Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson</b>

Evidence suggests Russia is planning "the biggest war in Europe since 1945", Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said.

He told the BBC's Sophie Raworth in an interview: "All the signs are that the plan has already in some senses begun."

Intelligence suggests Russia intends to launch an invasion that will encircle Ukrainian capital Kyiv, Mr Johnson said.

"People need to understand the sheer cost in human life that could entail," he said.

The prime minister was speaking from Munich, where world leaders are meeting for an annual security conference.

The latest estimates by the US government suggests that between 169,000 and 190,000 Russian troops are stationed along Ukraine's border, both in Russia and neighbouring Belarus - but this figure also includes rebels in eastern Ukraine.

Mr Johnson warned that any conflict could be "bloody and protracted", saying Russian President Vladimir Putin was possibly "thinking illogically about this" and did not "see the disaster ahead".

"I think it's vital for us all now to get over what a catastrophe it would be for Russia," he added.

He indicated that the UK and US would bring further sanctions against Russia than have been suggested before, including stopping its companies "trading in pounds and dollars" - a move that he said would "hit very, very hard".

Mr Johnson added: "The lesson of [the Russian seizure of Crimea from Ukraine in] 2014 is that you can't just let Vladimir Putin get away with it."

An invasion of Ukraine would strengthen, rather than weaken, Nato, he predicted, saying Western countries could not allow opposition forces to come to "the false conclusion that might is right".

"If [Mr Putin] thinks he's going to get less Nato as a result of this, he's totally wrong," Mr Johnson said. "He's going to get more Nato."

Ukraine is not a member of Nato or the European Union but has close relations with both.

Russia is insisting its neighbour should not be allowed to join Nato, which it sees as a threat to its security.

Western nations have accused Russia of trying to stage a fake crisis on Ukraine's border, warning in recent weeks Mr Putin's forces could be preparing to invade at any time.

But Russia has denied the claims, saying the massed troops are just conducting military exercises.

Asked whether a Russian invasion was still thought to be imminent, Mr Johnson said: "I'm afraid that that is what the evidence points to. There's no burnishing it."

The prime minister said US President Joe Biden had told Western leaders that intelligence suggested Russian forces were not just planning on entering Ukraine from the east, via Donbas, but down from Belarus and the area surrounding Kyiv.

"I'm afraid to say that the plan we are seeing is for something that could be really the biggest war in Europe since 1945, just in terms of sheer scale," he said.

People needed to not only consider the potential loss of life of Ukrainians, but also of "young Russians", he added.

Mr Johnson was speaking after meeting Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and telling world leaders in a speech that any invasion of Ukraine by Russia would "echo around the world".

Labour said it stood "four-square behind the UK government and Nato, with shadow health secretary Wes Streeting telling Sky News:

"There should be no doubt on the resolve of the UK, on a cross-party basis, and the resolve of Nato across the alliance."

But he also urged the government to do more to prevent the City of London being a "centre" for "Russian kleptocrats and money laundering".

Writing in the Sunday Telegraph, Home Secretary Priti Patel warned the crisis could bring an increased risk of cyber attacks in Britain.

She said past Russian cyber activity had included interference with UK media, telecommunications, and energy infrastructure, and the government expected to see an escalation of similar operations in the coming months.

In the same paper, Lindy Cameron, head of the National Cyber Security Centre (NCSC), said that "attacks targeting Ukraine's digital infrastructure could be felt here in Britain".

She said that, in 2017, malware used by the Russian military to target infrastructure in Ukraine "spiralled recklessly out of control to affect many other countries, including the UK'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60448162
 
OMG JUST STOP....

Russia is not going to INVADEEEEEE, it looks like the Americans and the British are getting desperate for Russia to invade...

Russia is not going to invade, but I have a bad feeling Americans and their allies will force and provoke Russia to a situation where they will have no choice but to invade.......
 
BBC

— UK Defence Secretary says Russia's President Vladimir Putin is "still committed to an invasion" of Ukraine.

— He tells MPs that Russia continues to build up troops and ready them for potential attack.

— Putin says he will decide later today if Moscow will recognise two areas of Ukraine captured by Russian-backed rebels.

— If Russia officially recognises them as independent states, there are fears Russian troops could be sent there.

— Joe Biden has agreed "in principle" to hold a formal meeting with Vladimir Putin to discuss the Ukraine crisis.

— But Russia says talk of a summit is premature and there are "no concrete plans" for a meeting.

— Several airlines including Air France and Lufthansa have suspended flights to Ukraine over invasion fears.
 
In a move likely to escalate tensions, Putin recognises the independence of breakaway areas of Ukraine.

The Kremlin says President Putin has decided to recognise the independence of two breakaway areas of Ukraine controlled by Russian-backed separatists.

A Kremlin statement said Putin had told the French and German leaders he intended to sign a decree recognising the Donetsk and Luhansk areas as independent states.
 
Vladimir Putin's message of defiance to the US and its allies presents an immense challenge for Joe Biden.

President Biden's administration had been signalling for a while that a decision by Mr Putin to recognise the regions of Donetsk and Luhansk as independent would necessitate a firm response.

The sanctions the White House announced in retaliation - targeted on new investment, trade and finance in those regions of Ukraine - may well be followed by additional measures, but they undoubtedly represent a limited first response.
 
OMG JUST STOP....

Russia is not going to INVADEEEEEE, it looks like the Americans and the British are getting desperate for Russia to invade...

Russia is not going to invade, but I have a bad feeling Americans and their allies will force and provoke Russia to a situation where they will have no choice but to invade.......

So what are your stand on Russias decision to recognise the independence of breakaway areas of Ukraine?
 
Forgive my ignorance about the area, but is there any reason why they shouldn't?

Well, Ukraine say those areas are part of Ukraine and Putin has recognised them as independent states. Just wanted to know which side an Indian will support, (having Kashmir in mind)
 
Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered troops into two rebel-held regions in eastern Ukraine, after recognising them as independent states.

Footage released overnight appeared to show Russian military vehicles heading towards the Ukrainian border.

Russia said the troops would be "peacekeeping" in the breakaway regions, which it has backed since 2014.

But the US said calling them peacekeepers was "nonsense".

It accused Russia of creating a pretext for war.

Ukraine's president said his country was "not afraid of anything or anyone".

In a late-night televised address to the nation, President Volodymyr Zelensky called for "clear and effective actions of support" from Ukraine's international allies.

"It is very important to see now who our real friend and partner is, and who will continue to scare the Russian Federation with words only," he added.

Several countries, including the UK, are considering introducing new sanctions against Russia in response to the move.

Fears over an invasion have been rising in recent months, as Russia has massed some 150,000 troops along Ukraine's borders, according to US estimates.

At an emergency meeting of the United Nations Security Council, US Ambassador Linda Thomas-Greenfield dismissed Russia's claims that troops would be taking on a "peacekeeping" role, saying: "We know what they really are."

Recognising Luhansk and Donetsk as independent was part of Russia's bid to create a reason to invade Ukraine, she said.

Russia has been backing a bloody armed rebellion in eastern Ukraine for the past eight years. Some 14,000 people - including many civilians - have died in fighting since then.

In recent years, Russian passports have been given out to large numbers of people in Donetsk and Luhansk.

The rebel-held areas have been evacuating women, children and the elderly to Russia since late last week.

In an hour-long address on Monday, Mr Putin said Ukraine was an integral part of his country's history, and described eastern Ukraine as "ancient Russian lands".

Russia's UN Ambassador Vasily Nebenzya argued for the need to defend the rebel-held areas in eastern Ukraine's Donbas region from what he called Ukrainian aggression. "Allowing a new bloodbath in the Donbas is something we do not intend to do," he said.

'It's unacceptable and unprovoked'
Western powers have rallied behind Ukraine, promising harsh sanctions against Russia if it invades - though it is not yet clear how effective this move could be.

The US swiftly condemned Mr Putin's move, and President Joe Biden signed an executive order that prohibits new investment, trade and financing by Americans in the breakaway regions. The White House said the measures were separate to wider Western sanctions which are ready to go "should Russia further invade Ukraine".

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson said Russia's actions amounted to "a flagrant violation of the sovereignty and integrity of Ukraine" that broke international law. He is set to chair a meeting of the government's emergency committee on Tuesday to agree a significant package of sanctions against Russia.

The European Union pledged to "react with unity, firmness and with determination in solidarity with Ukraine".

Australia's Prime Minister Scott Morrison rejected the suggestion that Russian troops would have a peacekeeping brief, telling reporters: "It's unacceptable, it's unprovoked, it's unwarranted... some suggestion that they are peacekeeping is nonsense."

Both Germany's Chancellor Olaf Scholz and France's President Emmanuel Macron spoke with the Russian leader ahead of his announcement.
 
Interestingly, the markets are rallying. Hmmmmm.

war is good for military industrial complex stocks etc. Also conflict/war is good excuse to carry on with QE which will create more liquidity, forget about the size of the debt; and maybe dial back on interest rate hikes. The ensuing inflation does not matter to elites.
 
The UK is sanctioning five Russian banks and three oligarchs, freezing their UK assets and banning travel to Britain, Boris Johnson has announced.

The prime minister told the House of Commons it was the "first tranche" and "first barrage" of measures, in response to Russian troops moving into two separatist regions of Ukraine.

"We hold further sanctions at readiness to be deployed," Mr Johnson told MPs, as he warned of a "protracted crisis" in Ukraine.

The five Russian banks being targeted are Rossiya, IS Bank, General Bank, Promsvyazbank and the Black Sea Bank.

The PM also said sanctions would be applied to billionaires Gennady Timchenko, Boris Rotenberg and Igor Rotenberg as three "very high net worth individuals".

"Any assets they hold in the UK will be frozen, the individuals concerned will be banned from travelling here, and we will prohibit all UK individuals and entities from having any dealings with them," Mr Johnson said.


Mr Timchenko is a major shareholder in Rossiya, while the Rotenbergs are described by the Foreign Office as having close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Boris Rotenberg is a major shareholder of SMP Bank, while Igor Rotenberg is invested in Russia's transport sector.

All three have been on the US sanctions list for a number of years as associates of Mr Putin.

The PM addressed the Commons after chairing a meeting of the government's emergency COBRA committee at 6.30am this morning.

Mr Putin on Monday night recognised two breakaway areas of eastern Ukraine as independent states and ordered Russian forces to carry out "peacekeeping" duties in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

Mr Johnson warned that Russian President Vladimir Putin was "bent on a full-scale invasion" of Ukraine.

The PM said Russia and Mr Putin had now "plainly" violated Ukrainian sovereignty and "completely torn up international law".

Downing Street said the UK's new sanctions against Russia were part of a "coordinated" approach to the Ukraine crisis together with the US and EU.

On Tuesday, Germany announced it had halted the approval of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, which runs under the Baltic Sea from Russia to Germany, in response to Mr Putin's actions over Ukraine.

The PM has frequently urged European economies to end their reliance on Russian gas and oil.

Russia's ambassador to the UK was summoned to the Foreign Office on Tuesday morning.

SKY
 
Ukraine crisis: Parliament approves Putin request for use of armed forces outside Russia

The decision by the upper house of parliament takes immediate effect - and it could presage a broader attack on Ukraine.

Russian legislators have given President Vladimir Putin permission to use armed forces abroad.

The decision by the upper house of parliament takes immediate effect - and it could presage a broader attack on Ukraine.

On Monday, Moscow recognised the independence of Russian-backed rebel regions in eastern Ukraine

Some Western leaders have said Russian troops had moved into Ukraine's east - and the US called it an "invasion".

Ukraine key developments:

Tanks seen on roads near city of Donetsk overnight
Ukrainian president to consider breaking off diplomatic ties with Russia
Germany halts approval of Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline
EU and US also ready to impose sanctions
In Brussels, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said Russia is planning for a "full-scale" attack on its neighbour.

"Every indication is that Russia is continuing to plan for a full-scale attack of Ukraine," he told a news conference.

However, it was unclear how large the Russian troop movements were. Ukraine and its allies have long said Russian troops are already fighting in the region, though Moscow denies those allegations.

The upper house's decision allows Mr Putin to deploy Russian military forces to the two separatist-held regions in eastern Ukraine in what Moscow has called a "peacekeeping" mission.

"By approving the use of the armed forces abroad, we assume they will be peacekeeping forces - forces designed to maintain peace and stability in the (self-proclaimed east Ukrainian) republics," Valentina Matvienko, the upper house's speaker, said before the vote.

As Russian MPs met to discuss the vote, the Kremlin announced Mr Putin had ratified friendship treaties with the two breakaway republics - a move Russia says allows it to build military bases there as well as deploy troops, agree a joint defence posture and tighten economic integration.

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-...n-to-use-armed-forces-outside-russia-12548832
 
If the disaster of Corona wasn't enough, Putin takes the opportunity to try to rebuild the Soviet Empire. And then the Russians wonder why their neighbours look to the West and not them for closer ties. There will be a lot nervous neighbours near the Russian border tonight
 
In a ideal world Ukraine should have the right to join NATO. However the world does not run on idealism. Was it worth it for Ukraine to lose Crimea and Donbass by antagonizing Russia? They need to accept that Putin is Godfather of Ukraine, otherwise they will lose half of their country.
 
Sanctions being applied by the western allies. I guess this will mean higher gas prices for us in the short term.
 
India’s Faltering Nonalignment


Ever since Russia began massing troops on the Ukrainian border, the government in Kyiv has been working frenetically to shore up international support. For the most part, it has focused on its partners in Europe and North America. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has met with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, French President Emmanuel Macron, and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz. He is regularly on the phone with U.S. President Joe Biden. Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba has conferenced with U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken, and he attended a December NATO ministerial meeting to discuss the Russian buildup. In a December article for Foreign Affairs, Kuleba called on the West to more actively and aggressively support Kyiv.

But on February 3, Kuleba made a blunt appeal to a country in a different part of the world: India. If India told the Kremlin in no uncertain terms that it found Russia’s actions “unacceptable,” this would be a “very strong message of support [for Ukraine] and make an impact,” Kuleba said. There is a reason for his plea. India is an important actor on the world stage, with strong ties to both Moscow and Washington. If it were to criticize Russia, New Delhi would at the very least demonstrate that the crisis worries countries beyond the West. It would signal that India strongly backs democracies and showcase that New Delhi is optimistic about the future of the Indian-U.S. partnership. And it would present a sharp contrast with China, which has been carefully silent about Ukraine.

Yet for India, the crisis is a highly fraught situation, and any action it takes vis-à-vis Ukraine carries significant risks. If it criticizes Moscow, India will alienate an important historical friend and, worse, drive Russia closer to China, which India considers its biggest foreign threat. If it backs Moscow, New Delhi will tank its relationship with the United States, a newer but highly valuable strategic partner. If it says nothing, India could antagonize both countries, which may then view it as a fickle and unreliable partner.

This underscores a mounting dilemma for New Delhi. India is a growing power in an increasingly multipolar world, and as disputes between countries grow more complex (and perhaps more common), they will want New Delhi’s support. India may not like this; the country has a long history of avoiding alliances, and it would rather focus on its own development while maintaining friendly ties with major international players. But international politics is not often kind to those who seek to remain on the sidelines without an ideological justification. During the Cold War, India was officially nonaligned, refusing to become enmeshed in superpower politics. This position sometimes made it unpopular (particularly with the United States), but it was widely accepted as its core moral ideology. India was a country newly independent from colonialism, and it refused to be a pawn of superpower imperialistic politics. In the post–Cold War world, India has talked about maintaining “strategic autonomy,” yet this repackaged version of nonalignment appears to be driven by economic and military self-interest rather than moral principles, and it has therefore not drawn the same degree of understanding. India does not need to involve itself in every conflict. But it and other emerging powers will need to recognize that as the world becomes more multipolar, tradeoffs will become more difficult to escape.

In the case of Ukraine, that means India should seize the initiative. New Delhi and Moscow have had friendly ties for decades, and the former can use the goodwill it has accumulated to quietly pressure Russian President Vladimir Putin into finding a diplomatic, face-saving solution. This may not come naturally to India, but stopping a full-scale war is critical to India’s global position. Russia has already moved military forces into two separatist regions of Ukraine for “peacekeeping purposes.” If the crisis escalates further into a Russian invasion, New Delhi has a lot to lose both economically—oil and gas markets will see unprecedented price surges—and politically. In India’s ideal world, the United States and Russia would both balance against China, and that will be impossible if they are in conflict.

India’s friendly relations with Russia predate the Cold War—and even its own independence in 1947. In the early twentieth century, India’s anticolonial nationalist leaders spoke favorably of the Soviet Union, which professed both socialist and anti-imperialist views that echoed their own opinions. From the perspective of India’s first prime minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, the Soviet Union was the unusual European country that rejected colonialism, publicly affirmed the principle of self-determination, and supported imperial subjects in their struggle for freedom.

The affection was not limitless. Joseph Stalin rejected India as insufficiently socialist and anticolonial (India joined the Commonwealth, much to his displeasure), and Nehru declined to draw India into a formal alliance with the Kremlin. But especially under Stalin’s successors, the Soviet Union offered New Delhi economic, technical, and military assistance that Indian policymakers were happy to accept. The Kremlin also gave India diplomatic support, including at the United Nations. During the 1950s, the Soviet Union backed New Delhi’s claims that the disputed territory of Kashmir was a purely bilateral issue. The Kremlin publicly supported India when it annexed the Portuguese colony of Goa in 1961, condemning Portugal’s colonialism as an affront to civilization. It supported New Delhi’s intervention in the Pakistani civil war on behalf of East Pakistan’s Bengali people in 1971. And in the years after the 1964 Sino-Soviet split, the Kremlin offered India security assistance—often without conditions and at substantial discounts—to protect itself against China, to which New Delhi lost a border war in 1962.

For decades, this support helped India steady itself in a world where New Delhi faced constant threats from Pakistan, a serious menace from China, and indifference from the West. But it also meant that by 1991, India was utterly dependent on the Soviet Union for military equipment, including destroyers, tanks, submarines, field guns, and fighter jets—as well as for the spare parts and technology to maintain, repair, and upgrade them. Although New Delhi attempted to diversify its suppliers after the Soviet Union collapsed, it struggled to move off its existing systems and had to rely on Moscow for fixes and upgrades. Even today, nearly 70 percent of India’s military hardware is made in Russia.

New Delhi knows it needs to further diversify its procurement. It also knows that it needs new international partners. And over the last two decades, it has found one in Washington. In 2005, the United States and India signed a nuclear deal that lifted a moratorium on nuclear trade, provided aid to India’s civilian nuclear energy program, and expanded cooperation on satellite technology. In 2016, the United States declared that India was a “Major Defense Partner,” which gave India access to military and dual-use U.S. technologies. Over the next four years, the two countries signed three defense agreements. And along with Australia and Japan, India and the United States formed and began collaborating through the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue (Quad). Their partnership is driven by many factors, but one of the most important is India’s past and resurgent rival: China. The United States is locked in a contest with Beijing over global leadership and sees New Delhi as a powerful counterweight. India, for its part, is caught in border disputes with China and views working with the United States as necessary to check China’s growing encroachments in the region. By contrast, Russia has attempted to bury memories of the Sino-Soviet split, and it has drawn closer to China through initiatives such as the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.

New Delhi does not want to ruin its ties to Moscow, which is still a significant source of military equipment. (Last year, Russia delivered to India S-400 air defense systems.) India also wants to avoid a U.S.-Chinese cold war—despite their conflicts, the latter country is India’s second-largest trading partner—and it sees a strong Russia as a way to prevent a bipolar world. To a certain extent, New Delhi even understands why Russia does not want NATO in its backyard; India wants to maintain its own sphere of influence in parts of South Asia. And it certainly does not want to push Russia into a stronger alignment with China. India has therefore watched with concern as Moscow scales up its relationship with China and improves its ties with Pakistan, even as it has been heartened by Washington’s gestures of friendship. The world’s second-largest country is facing a predicament.

During the last Ukrainian crisis, India implicitly sided with Russia. As much of the world condemned Moscow’s annexation of Crimea, it opposed Western sanctions against Russia. Shivshankar Menon, then national security adviser of India, stressed that Moscow had “legitimate interests” in Ukraine and that the annexation was “an internal issue.” The Indian Ministry of External Affairs said it would oppose “unilateral measures,” such as sanctions against the Russian government, in response to the Kremlin’s actions. Putin profusely thanked India for this strong support and later returned the favor. In 2020, India revoked Kashmir’s special autonomous status, provoking a broad, transnational backlash. But Moscow refused to condemn the act, using language that echoed Menon’s earlier description of Ukraine. “This is the sovereign decision of the Indian government,” said Nikolay Kudashev, the Russian ambassador to India. “It’s an internal matter.”

But this crisis looms larger than the last, and in the interim, India’s relationship with Washington has deepened. In 2020, the United States provided information and equipment to the Indian military in its border standoff with China. When New Delhi staged a diplomatic boycott of the 2022 Olympics, Washington offered public support. (Beijing made a soldier who had participated in attacks against the Indian military a torchbearer.) The two countries now regularly coordinate on regional security through the Quad, making it much more costly for New Delhi to openly support Moscow in the standoff over Ukraine.


India can help resolve the crisis by quietly pressuring the Kremlin.
In an attempt to stay out of the crisis, the Indian Ministry of External Affairs has called for a “peaceful resolution” and emphasized the need for “sustained diplomatic efforts” to resolve the situation. But this is a nonstatement that is unlikely to please either Russia or the United States. It will certainly not please Ukraine, which is home to roughly 20,000 Indian citizens. India’s efforts to stay silent could also lead Moscow to believe it has New Delhi’s support, something the government would like to prevent. When India abstained from a January 31 UN Security Council vote to discuss the crisis, the Russian permanent representative thanked India as well as China for its support.

Instead, India can help resolve the crisis by quietly pressuring the Kremlin to move toward a resolution. That means India should emphasize the long-term consequences of not reaching a diplomatic settlement. The Russian-Indian relationship is not one-sided—the former also benefits from the backing of the latter—and New Delhi should make it clear to Moscow that Russia cannot count on India’s support for an invasion of Ukraine. India should also remind Russia that it, too, has an interest in balancing against China, particularly in Central Asia, where both Moscow and Beijing have economic interests and want to establish a sphere of influence. A military confrontation, India could point out, would make it harder for Russia to compete against Beijing by isolating Moscow from other potential partners. The invasion could also possibly force Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government, which many international observers have repeatedly argued is autocratic, to move into an even closer partnership with the United States in order to defend its commitment to democracy and the Quad.

This will be an uncomfortable conversation for India to have. But it will be worth it, both for New Delhi and for the world. India is the only big power that can draw on decades of friendship to pressure Moscow and tell it hard truths.

That means New Delhi is uniquely positioned not just to shore up its own geopolitical position but also to prevent a deeply destabilizing and extremely violent conflict. India’s alternative, trying to avoid the crisis in order to maintain “strategic autonomy,” won’t wash. Rather than advancing New Delhi’s interests or enhancing its global stature, staying silent will make India look like an opportunistic and self-interested partner, not worthy of greater cooperation or support

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India needs to stay neutral and balance.
 
Russia's Interests "Non-Negotiable": President Vladimir Putin

Vladimir Putin said the interests of Russia, the security of its citizens, are non-negotiable.

Moscow, Russia: Russian President Vladimir Putin said Wednesday that Moscow was ready to look for "diplomatic solutions" amid raging tensions with the West over Ukraine but stressed that the country's interests were non-negotiable.
"Our country is always open for direct and honest dialogue, for the search for diplomatic solutions to the most complex problems," Putin said in a video address to mark the Defender of the Fatherland Day, a public holiday in Russia.

But he added: "The interests of Russia, the security of our citizens, are non-negotiable for us."

Putin spoke after parliament's upper house, the Federation Council, on Tuesday gave him unanimous approval to deploy "peacekeepers" to two breakaway Ukrainian regions now recognised by Moscow as independent, and potentially into other parts of Ukraine.

In the video address, Putin congratulated the country's men and said he was certain of the "professionalism" of the Russian military and that they will stand up for the country's national interests.

He praised the battle-readiness of the Russian army and said the country would continue to develop state-of-the-art weapons.

"We will continue to develop advanced weapon systems, including hypersonic and those based on new physical principles, and expand the use of advanced digital technologies and elements of artificial intelligence," the Kremlin strongman added. "Such complexes are truly the weapons of the future, which significantly increase the combat potential of our armed forces."

Western officials have been warning for weeks the Russian leader has been preparing an all-out invasion of Ukraine.

On Tuesday, US President Joe Biden announced tough new sanctions against Russia for "beginning" an invasion of Ukraine but said there was still time to avoid war.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/russias-interests-non-negotiable-president-vladimir-putin-2784130
 
If the disaster of Corona wasn't enough, Putin takes the opportunity to try to rebuild the Soviet Empire. And then the Russians wonder why their neighbours look to the West and not them for closer ties. There will be a lot nervous neighbours near the Russian border tonight

I advise you read the context into this conflict.

It all stems from 2014 when Nato wanted to induct Ukraine.

If Russian nukes were placed in Cuba again, the Yanks would be up in arms.

Great move by Putin, recognising those regions and then sending in troops.

Sanctions wont do much against Russia, the western economy will itself hurt.
 
I advise you read the context into this conflict.

It all stems from 2014 when Nato wanted to induct Ukraine.

If Russian nukes were placed in Cuba again, the Yanks would be up in arms.

Great move by Putin, recognising those regions and then sending in troops.

Sanctions wont do much against Russia, the western economy will itself hurt.

Firstly Russia isnt under threat from anyone- no one is stupid enough to attack a Nuclear state, so this nonsense often spouted has no basis in reality. Did the Afghans want to join NATO in 1979 for Russia to attack them? Why was Georgia attacked in 2008 or Hungry in 1956?

The reality is that Russia cant help to dominate its neighbours. Its the reason all the old Warsaw Pact countries ran as soon as they could and have thrived in the EU. Even poor countries like Romania and Bulgaria have done really well.
Putin wants to recreate the Soviet Empire but the World has moved on and soft power is the way to go. Do you really think that if Ukraine promised not to join NATO that Russia wouldnt attack it? Russia is a bully and always has been. During the war they quite carved out Poland with the Nazis and then when the Nazis turned on them they had to fight them.
 
Firstly Russia isnt under threat from anyone- no one is stupid enough to attack a Nuclear state, so this nonsense often spouted has no basis in reality. Did the Afghans want to join NATO in 1979 for Russia to attack them? Why was Georgia attacked in 2008 or Hungry in 1956?

The reality is that Russia cant help to dominate its neighbours. Its the reason all the old Warsaw Pact countries ran as soon as they could and have thrived in the EU. Even poor countries like Romania and Bulgaria have done really well.
Putin wants to recreate the Soviet Empire but the World has moved on and soft power is the way to go. Do you really think that if Ukraine promised not to join NATO that Russia wouldnt attack it? Russia is a bully and always has been. During the war they quite carved out Poland with the Nazis and then when the Nazis turned on them they had to fight them.

Not at this moment but things can change quickly. The US wasnt at threat when Soviets placed missiles in Cuba but nearly went to nuclear war because of this. Why doest Russia deserve the same ?


Again please read some history, Kiev used to be the capital of the Russian empire. The people in the newly indpendent regions are Russians, they want Russian troops present and this goes further to other regions.

The Nazis are in charge of Ukraine, you support them now? Russia is not Soviets, this is a schoolboy error and you as a teacher should know better.

Russia hasnt terrorised various nations in the world like US and UK. In fact Russia saved Syria.

You're confused and supporting the aggressors here, Nato.
 
Not at this moment but things can change quickly. The US wasnt at threat when Soviets placed missiles in Cuba but nearly went to nuclear war because of this. Why doest Russia deserve the same ?


Again please read some history, Kiev used to be the capital of the Russian empire. The people in the newly indpendent regions are Russians, they want Russian troops present and this goes further to other regions.

The Nazis are in charge of Ukraine, you support them now? Russia is not Soviets, this is a schoolboy error and you as a teacher should know better.

Russia hasnt terrorised various nations in the world like US and UK. In fact Russia saved Syria.

You're confused and supporting the aggressors here, Nato.

Calcutta was the Capital of the British in India but it means nothing today.Ukraine is an independent state and has been since 1991 and Russia isn't and won't be under threat because it has Nuclear weapons and unless you have or the Americans have found a way to win a Nuclear war, it will stay that way.
The Americans have made terrible decisions and caused chaos around the World but that doesn't mean Russia gets a free pass. Russia has always looked to dominate its neighbours and why did you ignore my examples. Do you think they were right to go onto Afghanistan or not? Because based on your logic, if you feel any threat, go and attack. And what threat did Georgia or Hungry pose? This nonsense that we should give these thugs a free needs to go into the dustbin of history.
 
I advise you read the context into this conflict.

It all stems from 2014 when Nato wanted to induct Ukraine.

If Russian nukes were placed in Cuba again, the Yanks would be up in arms.

Great move by Putin, recognising those regions and then sending in troops.

Sanctions wont do much against Russia, the western economy will itself hurt.

Agreed, though the issue stems from early 90s when NATO promised it would not expand its bases and of courses renaged on said promises.

Europe feeling the brunt already. Petrol and Gas prices reaching new highs.
 
Calcutta was the Capital of the British in India but it means nothing today.Ukraine is an independent state and has been since 1991 and Russia isn't and won't be under threat because it has Nuclear weapons and unless you have or the Americans have found a way to win a Nuclear war, it will stay that way.
The Americans have made terrible decisions and caused chaos around the World but that doesn't mean Russia gets a free pass. Russia has always looked to dominate its neighbours and why did you ignore my examples. Do you think they were right to go onto Afghanistan or not? Because based on your logic, if you feel any threat, go and attack. And what threat did Georgia or Hungry pose? This nonsense that we should give these thugs a free needs to go into the dustbin of history.

Your examples were poor as this one again, regarding Calcutta.

Let me simplify this for you.

Its Nato v Russia/China.

Which entity has caused more deaths, destrucion of nation and state terrorism in the last 50 years?

Im not sure if you teach history but this would be a £1 question in any quiz.

It would take me all night to detail this issue but to keep it short , Russia has been attacked by Nato on many occasions esp sanctions. Russia has the right to defend itself against Nato.

If you dont agree, please join the British army , put on your tin hat and head off to fight the thug! But you wont do it.
 
Agreed, though the issue stems from early 90s when NATO promised it would not expand its bases and of courses renaged on said promises.

Europe feeling the brunt already. Petrol and Gas prices reaching new highs.

I would fill up the cars within 7-10 days. There is also a strike planned soon by workers. Fuel shortage is on the way.

What BBC readers dont understand is Russia along with the world has seen Nato mudering milions around the world in the last 20 years. Russia is not Iraq or Syria it defend itself and its people, which is its right.
 
Calcutta was the Capital of the British in India but it means nothing today.Ukraine is an independent state and has been since 1991 and Russia isn't and won't be under threat because it has Nuclear weapons and unless you have or the Americans have found a way to win a Nuclear war, it will stay that way.
The Americans have made terrible decisions and caused chaos around the World but that doesn't mean Russia gets a free pass. Russia has always looked to dominate its neighbours and why did you ignore my examples. Do you think they were right to go onto Afghanistan or not? Because based on your logic, if you feel any threat, go and attack. And what threat did Georgia or Hungry pose? This nonsense that we should give these thugs a free needs to go into the dustbin of history.

America has 2 neighbours, Canada and Mexico. We all know USA/Canada are members of the 5 eyes. We also know how Amreeka treats Mexico, moreover USA has embarked on relentless regime change is South America over many decades since WW2.

What's your point? Amreeka has free reign to wage wars and to support regime change because it's seperated by the Atlantic and Pacific ocean?
 
I would fill up the cars within 7-10 days. There is also a strike planned soon by workers. Fuel shortage is on the way.

What BBC readers dont understand is Russia along with the world has seen Nato mudering milions around the world in the last 20 years. Russia is not Iraq or Syria it defend itself and its people, which is its right.

Bosnian Muslim genocide; NATO let it happened. NATO were not prepared to help a non NATO member back then, yet are prepared to help a non NATO member Ukraine now.

And yes, NATO would be hell bent attacking a weaker nation but with Russia, Biden has already said it will not go to war but instead has imposed economic sanctions.

Amreeka is WEAK.
 
Your examples were poor as this one again, regarding Calcutta.

Let me simplify this for you.

Its Nato v Russia/China.

Which entity has caused more deaths, destrucion of nation and state terrorism in the last 50 years?

Im not sure if you teach history but this would be a £1 question in any quiz.

It would take me all night to detail this issue but to keep it short , Russia has been attacked by Nato on many occasions esp sanctions. Russia has the right to defend itself against Nato.

If you dont agree, please join the British army , put on your tin hat and head off to fight the thug! But you wont do it.

Why is it poor. Empires have had their day. You can't use an example from 100s of yrs ago and then say another example doesn't fit your narrative.
So sanctions are an attack, well Russia can attack back with Sanctions. They could decide not to sell their gas and oil and that wouldn't be a problem with me.
So back to why Russia attacked Afg, Georgia and Hungary. Were they justified or not. You seem to want to justify this attack because apparently Ukraine is a threat to Russia but what threat did Those countries pose.
You seem to getting all the cliches out but when something is wrong, it needs to be condemned.
 
Why is it poor. Empires have had their day. You can't use an example from 100s of yrs ago and then say another example doesn't fit your narrative.
So sanctions are an attack, well Russia can attack back with Sanctions. They could decide not to sell their gas and oil and that wouldn't be a problem with me.
So back to why Russia attacked Afg, Georgia and Hungary. Were they justified or not. You seem to want to justify this attack because apparently Ukraine is a threat to Russia but what threat did Those countries pose.
You seem to getting all the cliches out but when something is wrong, it needs to be condemned.

This conflict is more akin to the Cold war. Two nuclear powers against each other, cannot be compared to any other context in history. So please stop comparing, it makes no sense.

Western nations have built up their imperial finance systems, to suggest Russia should do the same shows you are unware of how sanctions work.

Nato has been attacking Russian allies, nations on the border of Russia for decades now. It is attacking those allied to Russia ie Syria, Iran.

Russia cannot allow land in Ukraine to be used to attack Russians via proxy or Nato to launch nukes from this land. You may think its a pipe dream, the world will be hunky dory, with roses dropping from thin air in the next decade but you are far from reality. The world is a on a downward turn, the ecomony will collapse by 2030 imo. Next step is wars in various parts of the world.

Nato choose to invade, destory nations which are a threat to team even if they are thousands of miles away. Russia now chooses to do the same, it cant hold back when Nato wont.

So when you do something to stop Nato state terrorism then you can call out Russia too. Everyone will defend themselves.
 
‘NATO is a defensive organisation’ - Biggest load of none sense.

BBC doesn’t even attempt to hide to their bias as of late, can I have my £159 back :mv
 
Looks by all accounts that a full scale Russian invasion of Ukraine has begun from the east, south, and from the north through Belarus. Unclear if it’s just the Russian military carrying out the operation or if Belorussian soldiers have joined as well.
 
Boris Johnson has accused Vladimir Putin of choosing a "path of bloodshed and destruction" after explosions were heard in Ukrainian cities.

The prime minister said the UK and its allies will respond "decisively", adding that he was "appalled by the horrific events" in Ukraine.

Mr Johnson has spoken to Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the country's president, to discuss "next steps".

The PM is expected to make a statement to the House of Commons later on Thursday, having promised to hit Russia with fresh sanctions in the event of a further invasion of Ukraine.

Explosions near major Ukrainian cities including the capital Kyiv - follow live updates


US President Joe Biden described Vladimir Putin's decision to begin military operations as an "unprovoked and unjustified attack", declaring: "The world will hold Russia accountable."

Mr Biden added: "The prayers of the entire world are with the people of Ukraine tonight."

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The Russian president appeared on state TV in Moscow to announce the operation was going ahead as the UN Security Council was meeting in New York to urge his country not to invade Ukraine.

António Guterres, the UN secretary-general, said the war "doesn't make any sense" and could cause a "level of suffering not seen in Europe since the Balkan crisis".

Jens Stoltenberg, the NATO secretary-general, said Russia's actions were a "grave breach of international law" and that allies would meet to address the "renewed aggression".

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German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said the Russian attack on Ukraine is a "blatant" breach of international law.

French President Emmanuel Macron expressed solidarity with Ukraine and urged Russia to stop military action.

Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison condemned the "brutal" and "unprovoked" attack and said his country is considering sanctions against 300 members of the Russian parliament.

Ursula von der Leyen, president of the European Commission, said her thoughts were with the people of Ukraine "in these dark hours" and that Russia would be held accountable for its actions.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said his country condemned the Russian attack "in the strongest possible terms" and called for the immediate cessation of "all hostile and provocative actions against Ukraine".

He added: "These reckless and dangerous acts will not go unpunished."

The UK's ambassador to the UN, Dame Barbara Woodward, said it was a "grave day for Ukraine and for the principles of the United Nations".
 
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