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Strike rates are on the lower side but in context of the games, they are fine.
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Salman Butt and Mohammad Asif performance in domestic cricket after their return
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In national one day cup Asif has the best economy rate among all pacers. His economy is under 4 which is exceptional.
Asif has the highest ratio of top order wickets amongst his total wickets this tournament [MENTION=5869]yasir[/MENTION] which confirms his skillset and fish hasn't forgot swimming.
In odis and test matches in srilanka , new Zealand, South Africa and England he would be the right arm new ball bowler in next 4 years. (If he remains fit).
Containing runs and taking 1 to 3 wickets of top order key batsman of opposing team is very important in Odi cricket.
# his economy and percentage of top order wickets is great to see. Hope wapda win next game by a big margin and qualify for semi finals.
Salman Butt and Usman Salahuddin are playing list A cricket of 2009-2010. Poor strike rates.
Fakhar Zaman, Kamran Akmal playing list A cricket of 2016.
What is so extra-ordinary about Salman Butt, He has been scoring slowly lately.
Score Balls. Fours Sixes Strike Rate
95 176 11 1 65.06
30 71 4 0 56.60
6 17 1 0 60.00
99 219 7 0 68.75
Total Average: 62 S/R
Barring the first game (scored at 92) he has been even worse than:ahmed , How on earth will he survive in Aus,NZ,SA, and England. Disagree with Aamir Sohail, we have better options
Score Balls. Fours Sixes Strike Rate
95 176 11 1 65.06
30 71 4 0 56.60
6 17 1 0 60.00
99 219 7 0 68.75
Total Average: 62 S/R
Barring the first game (scored at 92) he has been even worse than:ahmed , How on earth will he survive in Aus,NZ,SA, and England. Disagree with Aamir Sohail, we have better options
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main thing in his batting he is holding one end and keep scoring runs till the end which our bats at the time are not following rotate stike
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Do you wish to get ten posts of Junaids on how Salman Butt is the savior we need?
because that is how you get Junaids to write ten posts about that.
because that is how you get Junaids to write ten posts about that.
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Rehma kar bhai. 1 post is enough.
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its true - kamran has dstroyed the competition so far, highest run scorer at amongst the highest strike rate. he's been remarkable so far - but lets see, its only 6 innings so far.
amonhgst the bowlers, sadaf hussain stands out for me again, although theres a left arm spinner who has a couple of more wickets so far - sadaf stands out for me just because of his consistency.
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OP seems like a demon child of [MENTION=57576]MRSN[/MENTION] and [MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION].
OT, are the stats correct ? If true, that is shocking considering he's playing in the OD tournament and not the FC tournament.
OT, are the stats correct ? If true, that is shocking considering he's playing in the OD tournament and not the FC tournament.
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he has always been slow. i wouldnt have bet that he would have scored this many runs though, straight off that ban.
hes a mediocre batsman, no matter the two innings he played a billion years ago in australia; and its unlikely that anyone betting that he has fixed that flaw in his technique, will be right.
hes a mediocre batsman, no matter the two innings he played a billion years ago in australia; and its unlikely that anyone betting that he has fixed that flaw in his technique, will be right.
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He is our intended saviour but we don't deserve him. Other nations would welcome him with open arms and immediately drop their openers to include him.
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To be fair to him, his team has been absolutely rubbish.
They've collapsed in almost every game while he has stayed at the other end. Most of his innings have been slow because of the match situation.
They've collapsed in almost every game while he has stayed at the other end. Most of his innings have been slow because of the match situation.
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Your stats are not correct. It's not about Butt, but if you want to put anything credible, paint the entire picture
- post all his innings after coming back (deliberately excluded 134*, which is unfair, even for a convicted fixer)
- post correct no. of ball (SR = runs/balls * 100)
- post team total with wickets to show the perspective &
- put match scores with wickets & no. of overs played to show the context
Then we can definitely discuss.
Actually, no.
I personally believe that all ODI and T20i matches are spot fixed and that most are match fixed, and nothing I saw from Cenberra changed my mind.
So I'm only keen to get Asif and Butt back in Tests.
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I was talking about [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] posts on salman butt only.Viru Bhai ab aisa kaho gay to kaun ayega
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Many of those knocks with a questionable S/R came while wickets were tumbling around Butt
it's not exactly easy opening, in fact I rate his ability to occupy the crease as an opener in the face of crisis and in tough batting conditions.Why are there people looking at his stats without context?
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Plus two new balls now
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I was talking about [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] posts on salman butt only.
Ahhh I thought you said about my post
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Football - Corrupt
Athletics - Corrupt
Cricket - Corrupt
WWE - Already planned
No more sports in the world anymore ..
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Football - Corrupt
Athletics - Corrupt
Cricket - Corrupt
WWE - Already planned
No more sports in the world anymore ..
Add Tennis to the list to and Boxing, maybe even the UFC [MENTION=131138]Space Cat[/MENTION] hehe
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Sadaf hussain 6 matches 15 wickets
Shehzad Azam Rana 5 matches 15 wickets
Bilawal 6 arches 14 wickets
Zohaib Sheran 4 matches 12 wickets
Hasan Ali 4 matches 4 wickets
Sadaf Shehzad Bilawal Zohaib Hasan
Av 15.6 15.86 17.42 14.16 17.58
SR 21.4 17.60 18.80 16.00 21.90
Eco 4.36 5.40 5.54 5.31 4.81
4fer 1 2 1 1 1
5fer 1 0 0 1 0
All are very close cannot single out any one yet at this stage of tournament.
Football - Corrupt
Athletics - Corrupt
Cricket - Corrupt
WWE - Already planned
No more sports in the world anymore ..
Trio were not Adam and Eve, who committed first sin... The real bad thing about their sin was youtube evidence...
Corruption is not zero sum game... Corruption is part of being Human, it's like salt or spices in the food, it there is none, life is static and boring, after all we are never going to be robot...Too much will ruin it...
One thing I desperately want to see is 'Sadaf Hussian' bowl. Strange thing is that in this tournament he is bowling first change(most of the time, based on scorecards) not opening the bowling and still taking wickets.
Are these matching shown somewhere? - specially the playoffs?
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Semifinals and finals will be shown by Ptv sports.
Krl have qualified for semifinals.
Sadaf hussain and Shehzad Azam Rana have been most consistent fast bowlers Fc and list A cricket in last 5 and 3 years respectively whereas Mir Hamza joins them in Fc only in last 3 years and Mohammad Abbass in Fc only in last 2 years.
PTV sports available online?
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Yes
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please share the link if wapda qualifies for semi.
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Just download any pak India tv channels app or sports channels app. Or search on Google for ptv sports livestreams. Here it's not allowed to share links.
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on the bowlers - yes, they are close, but to make a proper comparison you have to look beyond the current series, which has limited use other than current form. as mentioned above, im a big believer in weighing economy very heavily, as a measure of accuracy - and more often than not, it will lead to wickets, whereas expensive wickets are more often likely to lose as many games as win.
of those five, hasan, zohaib and bilawal, all have too few wickets in LA cricket to be able to assess their skills at all, with 26, 12, and 17 wickets respectively. they all have economy rates in the >5.2 range too. sadaf is the only one bowling with a sub 5 economy rate at 4.65, and all his career stats are way ahead of shehzad azam.
so for me, of the ones ive been following only through stats, sadaf is stand out, but khalid usman looks very interesting too - career stats being 53(i)-89(w)-22(ave)-4.6(eco) - although he is a 30 year old slow left armer. hes also the leading wicket taker in the tournament at the moment with 17 wickets.
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Shehzad Azam Rana's economy rate in last 3 years has been 5 and he has taken wickets at an average of 22. Whereas before that his average was 32.8 and Eco was 6.25. So this is massive improvement. This shows his character. So I will be more interested in seeing what a experience domestic bowler like sadaf of Shehzad Azam has done in last 3 years than just see what they have done just now. Because in mature players you need to see consistency factor. In last 3 years Sadaf had a economy rate of 4.68 while Shehzad had and economy of 5.0 so this isn't a massive difference and I would count both economy rates as good. Only those bowlers perform consistently who have control over their line and length. Both these bowlers are badly neglected by PCB with one only getting 2 FC and 0 list A game in his 7, 8 years domestic career while other being neglected In last 18 months or so. This is not the way to treat most consistent performers of last 3 and 5 years.
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Anyone knows how Asif did ?
He was the best bowler we had and did not need to rely on pace . His accuracy with the ball was great to watch . I am sure he still has it in him .
He just wasted his career .
He was the best bowler we had and did not need to rely on pace . His accuracy with the ball was great to watch . I am sure he still has it in him .
He just wasted his career .
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No idea about him brother. I don't remember him getting much reviews wrt pace, seam or swing. I don't remember him. But yup doing well this tournament.
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Jump to asif part in my opening post at :
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...ysis-with-regards-to-what-Pakistan-team-needs
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He stats are beastly on all counts. In addition being economical he has plain silly strike rates. Not the picture of someone who is mainly a miserly containing bowler, a la Siddle perhaps. And as far as I can tell, the last three years have also been his best.
His Ave/SR in LA
13-14: Ave 12.90 SR 16.
14-15: Ave 13.89 SR 16
15-16 Ave 15.6 SR 21
His numbers in the last Haier Cup.
2/60
3/42
4/56
5/29
4/40
3/64
Overall leading wicket taker of course.
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Naturally we can all expect him to be called up for the wrong format and once he has firmly passed his peak. The only thing our selectors are consistently good at is being crap.
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When we finally get rid of Afridi and Malik's career ending after the upcoming overseas tours, we bring in Butt, to continue the tradition of excess baggage.
I guess Imran Farhat and Faisal Iqbal better dust-off their caps because the merry-go-round is coming.
I guess Imran Farhat and Faisal Iqbal better dust-off their caps because the merry-go-round is coming.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Salman Butt made 90 today in the One-day cup. His scores so far:
135 99* 6 30 81* 95 & 90
Total of 536 runs at an average of 107.20
<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/690526162427219970">January 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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135 99* 6 30 81* 95 & 90
Total of 536 runs at an average of 107.20
<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/690526162427219970">January 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Salman Butt is pwning the competition.
This shows how bad the domestic level is.
This shows how bad the domestic level is.
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how did Asif perform? What was the result for WAPDA. are they in Semis?
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Check round seven scores thread i have updated the thread with points table and SF list.
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Or perhaps he has improved quite a bit? I know he failed in the England Test series, but other than Trott who was probably the best batsman at that time (2010-2011), almost everyone else failed in the series where Anderson and Amir ran riot.
Before that, he scored runs in Australia and did excellently in the World T20 which wasn't supposed to be his forte, and then later scored against Australia in England.
He was finally beginning to shed the ODI specialist tag in 09/10. With five years out of the game, he has had enough time to analyze his batting and work on his shortcomings and has had less wear & tear on his body too.
Let's not just put it down to how bad domestic level is because Butt has already shown in some capacity that he can score runs in international cricket.
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Butt clearly piling the pressure on Shehzad and Hafeez.
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dEAR friend plz donot mind it but you are always bashing pakistan cricket in each and every post.why so negativity about pakistan cricket? .rather you give suggestion and proper solution that would be great
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Muhammad Asif 6.1.12.0 WAPDA Out Of Competition
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I don't understand why he only bowled 6 overs?! Especially when going at 2 rpo. He's bowled only 6 in quite a few of the games...odd.
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OM R W Econ
Mohammad Asif611202.00(2w)
Mohammad Irfan907328.11(3nb, 1w)
Zulfiqar Babar1004004.00
Khalid Usman1004614.60
Rizwan Haider906437.11(3w)
Zahid Mansoor503216.40
Mohammad Saad1023023.00
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Another good score for Salman Butt and this time at a good Strike Rate, he needs to come back, he's more dodgy than Amir without a doubt but hands down better than useless Shehzad
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How many tweets will Shehzad re-tweet when he is replaced by Butt in the ODI team? Butt has been in remarkable form. Like him or not, you have to appreciate the determination to succeed.
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Good point.
Had Asif bowled his full quota in all these matches he would have picked more wickets.
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Muhammad Asif figures in 7 matches:
51-4-189-7
economy rate of 3.70
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51-4-189-7
economy rate of 3.70
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Asif and Sadaf for English tour are a must.
Our batting is not the worst in the world in tests atm. Though Butt can be drafted in as reserve opener
Our batting is not the worst in the world in tests atm. Though Butt can be drafted in as reserve opener
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Amir , Asif , Wahab , Sadaf.
But
How on earth you will drop Imran Khan ? On what grounds? Though he is medium fast but his numbers are good enough especially on dead wickets. So how does sadaf get in ? Personally I want Sadaf ahead of him but there is no logic/justification of dropping him. Moreover he is back to domestic cricket and got 5/54 in his 2nd last list A game and list A isn't his stronger suit.
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Superb economy rate from Asif! 3.7 for a pacer is so good! Butt is in beast mode
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Bro please let us know about fast bowlers whose matches will be televised by PTV. As of now, we have sadaf and shehzad?
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IIRC last time we took 6 pacers to the English tour. One Karachi pacer (I guess Sohail Khan) was not played in any games + Wahab, Gul, Amir, Asif
IK 2 needs to play ahead of others. The rest of the four can be judged in the practice games. Personally think Wahab will not do too well in English conditions, despite his 5-fer earlier
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We were a relatively rich board than. Ecb will allow only 16 players.
If you want to take 6 pacers that means you want a squad of 20.
Wahab's pace is 100 % needed.
If PCB can afford to have 17th and 18th member too than only 5 pacers can go. Because in a squad of 16 you would want atleast 3rd opener and 1 or 2 middle order bench players.
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Sadaf hussain (Left Arm medium fast)
Majid Ali (Left Arm fast medium)
Shehzad Azam Rana (RFM)
Hasan Ali (RFM)
Yasir Ali (Was fast.medium 11 years ago)
Only these can have chance in future pakistan limited overs sides amongst semifinalists.
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Yeah, so that means Opener+Fawad+Haris/Babar as no 12, 13, 14. Still have room for 2 bowlers - one spinner and a pacer on the bench (assuming 4 pacers play+Hafeez)
Only wish we dont go for Waqar's favourite Rahat Ali, the spray gun. 5 pacers are a necessity
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Salman is kicking serious butt in this competition, no doubt. Honestly speaking, before this competition started I thought out of the 3 he would be a failure, Amir would be a success, and Asif would be successful too eventually after a month or so. First two turned out completely wrong.
This is my favorite domestic competition in a while as well. Two of the most hated batsmen on PakPassion being the leading scorers). Every other PPer is foaming in their mouths when they hear Butt or Kami are owning the competition.
Kami needs to return for LOIs, Salman as well for ODIs if he keeps this up.
This is my favorite domestic competition in a while as well. Two of the most hated batsmen on PakPassion being the leading scorers
). Every other PPer is foaming in their mouths when they hear Butt or Kami are owning the competition. Kami needs to return for LOIs, Salman as well for ODIs if he keeps this up.
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Ideally, both of them should be back. Asif should only play tests, while Butt should start from ODI's and then progress to Tests and even T20s depending on form. We need both Aamir and Asif in England if we want to have any chance of winning.
Does anyone actually think Asif and Butt will ever be selected again? I just don't think so. There was so much drama with Amir, even with the excuse that he was young and innocent. You can't make those cases for Asif and Butt. I absolutely cannot see those guys ever playing international cricket again.
and there is no way in hell that Asif is getting selected for an England tour.
Honestly, their status depends on Amir, unfortunately for him. There is already so much spotlight and internal drama. If Amir's performance doesn't prove himself worth all the drama, there is ZERO incentive to take on the drama of Asif and Butt.
and there is no way in hell that Asif is getting selected for an England tour.
Honestly, their status depends on Amir, unfortunately for him. There is already so much spotlight and internal drama. If Amir's performance doesn't prove himself worth all the drama, there is ZERO incentive to take on the drama of Asif and Butt.
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Geez, Salman Butt is in the form of his life.
Pakistani openers need to get going or he will take their spot soon enough.
Pakistani openers need to get going or he will take their spot soon enough.
Mediocre return for Mohammad Asif
I understand that people are getting all excited about the fifth biggest T20 tournament of the year.
But over at Sargodha, something much more important is actually going on.
Currently Pakistan has three-quarters of an attack for the 10 Tests this year in England, New Zealand and Australia which are going to determine whether Pakistan is invited on major tours over the next few years.
Mohammad Amir, Wahab Riaz and Yasir Shah are the three pieces of the jigsaw so far assembled, but there is a desperate need for a right-arm opening partner for Amir, and Imran Khan is almost certainly too slow and too predictable to be that man.
So much hinges on whether Mohammad Asif can return to form.
And the first evidence is not promising. He is skippering Sialkot and they bowled Dera Murad Jamali Region (sorry, I've never heard of it) out for 141 yesterday in 49.4 overs.
But all 10 wickets were taken by the spinners, and Mohammad Asif finished with figures of:
12-3-45-0
....which means that he wasn't just toothless, he wasn't particularly economical either.
It looks like he may not make it back to the highest level. He has a lot to prove.
I understand that people are getting all excited about the fifth biggest T20 tournament of the year.
But over at Sargodha, something much more important is actually going on.
Currently Pakistan has three-quarters of an attack for the 10 Tests this year in England, New Zealand and Australia which are going to determine whether Pakistan is invited on major tours over the next few years.
Mohammad Amir, Wahab Riaz and Yasir Shah are the three pieces of the jigsaw so far assembled, but there is a desperate need for a right-arm opening partner for Amir, and Imran Khan is almost certainly too slow and too predictable to be that man.
So much hinges on whether Mohammad Asif can return to form.
And the first evidence is not promising. He is skippering Sialkot and they bowled Dera Murad Jamali Region (sorry, I've never heard of it) out for 141 yesterday in 49.4 overs.
But all 10 wickets were taken by the spinners, and Mohammad Asif finished with figures of:
12-3-45-0
....which means that he wasn't just toothless, he wasn't particularly economical either.
It looks like he may not make it back to the highest level. He has a lot to prove.
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It will take time. Needs stamina as well for logger format
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Do some research.
The highest wicket taker of last Quaid e Azam trophy Mohammad Abbass was Asif's bowling partner and of them failed to get a single Wicket.
All 10 wickets went to spinners.
18 wickets have fell uptil now in the match and only 1 of that wicket is taken by a seamer.
Wicket is dead slow & as flat as It can get.
Salman Butt is not playing QEA & Patrons trophy grade 2 i guess. Both his region and department are already in qualifying or main round of QEA.
Let's see if he plays as a guest player from any region or department but it's highly unlikely.
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[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]
As fit as he has ever been. 5 out of 7 wickets in national one day cup of Top order Batsman.
Rawalpindi Fc cricketer first report saying it never looked as if he is bowling in competitive cricket after 5 years. Most economical bowler amongst bowlers who took more than 5 wickets.
Was impressive in NCA nets aswell. Read lines of Hasan Cheema again.
Let him play on wickets with some help only, than see how he rips through batting sides.
1 innings and you have given up. Almost both teams have finished their first innings and only 1 wicket is taken by seamer. Even Abbass couldn't take a single Wicket and he was the best bowler of last QEA by a fair margin.
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As fit as he has ever been. 5 out of 7 wickets in national one day cup of Top order Batsman.
Rawalpindi Fc cricketer first report saying it never looked as if he is bowling in competitive cricket after 5 years. Most economical bowler amongst bowlers who took more than 5 wickets.
Was impressive in NCA nets aswell. Read lines of Hasan Cheema again.
Let him play on wickets with some help only, than see how he rips through batting sides.
1 innings and you have given up. Almost both teams have finished their first innings and only 1 wicket is taken by seamer. Even Abbass couldn't take a single Wicket and he was the best bowler of last QEA by a fair margin.
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I think if he doesnt make his return for the next 3 series then he shouldn't make return at all. Don't expect him to get wickets in uae and he is too old to wait for the next series in england , Australia , nz or south Africa. So for Asif its this year or never.
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Asif will make a great bowling coach when retires.
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'Too slow and predictable'? You see the irony, with this being a thread about Mohammad Asif
From whom we learn that skill and brains matters more.
Unfortunately Wahab has both in only modest quantities.
Which is perhaps why Imran has been doing much better. On dead flat pitches.
I'd say he will be a very decent prong in the attack. What we need is someone to replace Wahab.
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Asif is dead unlucky here.
Zohaib Shera has just taken 12 wickets on Multan Cricket Stadium which is known to assist pacers when grass is left on it.
Meanwhile Sialkot's first 4 games are played in Pakistan's most dead and slowest wickets of Sports stadium sialkot & Iqbal stadium faisalabad.
2 matches in each venue is scheduled and 1 match already got called off due to rain.
So don't expect anything extravagant from Asif in next 2 matches aswell which are to be played in faisalabad & sargodha.
But the good thing is that people like Naeemuddin & Ali Khan are member of Sialkot team and it's a strong team overall so chances are that they will qualify for atleast semifinal and than final aswell.
This means Asif will play 4 more three day games and will get 120 to 150 overs under his belt. If the semifinal & final are played in pitches which have slightest of help for Pacers like Multan or Rawalpindi etc than watch out for Asif's magic.
Zohaib Shera has just taken 12 wickets on Multan Cricket Stadium which is known to assist pacers when grass is left on it.
Meanwhile Sialkot's first 4 games are played in Pakistan's most dead and slowest wickets of Sports stadium sialkot & Iqbal stadium faisalabad.
2 matches in each venue is scheduled and 1 match already got called off due to rain.
So don't expect anything extravagant from Asif in next 2 matches aswell which are to be played in faisalabad & sargodha.
But the good thing is that people like Naeemuddin & Ali Khan are member of Sialkot team and it's a strong team overall so chances are that they will qualify for atleast semifinal and than final aswell.
This means Asif will play 4 more three day games and will get 120 to 150 overs under his belt. If the semifinal & final are played in pitches which have slightest of help for Pacers like Multan or Rawalpindi etc than watch out for Asif's magic.
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Waiting for the return of asif.
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