Sanatani Dialogues: Part 2 - Will USA-Canada prove to be a fortress of Sanatan Dharma in the West in the coming centuries

[Bhaijaan]

Sanatan Dharma was born in the blessed land of Mahabharat in the ancient times. However the priests of the past for whatever reason chose not to spread the word of Bhagwan in the entire world. The reasons for this might have been written in ancient text which was lost when the barbaeic Islamist invaders burnt down the ancient Sanatani Universities and Libraries. The knowledge that was lost during those events is something that will never be fully recovered but can only be regained through centuries or perhaps milleniums of education and maybe one day we will know the complete reasoning behind ancient Sanatani’s decision to not take the word of Bhagwan in other lands and planets.

However unintentionally, Sanatanis spread across the world in the 20tb and early part of 21st century as we speak in search of better opportunities as a result Sanatan Dharma unintentionally grew in the East and in the West.

In the West, it is extremely pleasing to discover how Sanatan Dharma has been welcomed by the current immigrant residents, mostly former Europeans. However, as much cultural influence as the former Europeans have had in US, Canada it is Sanatan Dharma which is having the biggest spiritual influence.

The law abiding progressive liberal nature of Sanatanis has successfully taken them to every top institution in US, Canada and as we speak Sanatanis are in a very healthy position of early leadership.

As time progresses, it is most likely that Sanatanis will consolidate their political leadership in the West, making them arguably the most influential religious group in the upcoming century.

At a time when their motherland Bharat is on the way to become worlds first and only Omega Power, the Sanatanis of the Western world are set to turn USA-Canada into a Hindu fortress in the West.

All of the above factors lead only to one plausible conclusion that by the beginning of 22nd century, Sanatan Dharma is likely to regain peak status of the Dwapar Yuga making them not by numbers but by influence and political clout the greatest religious group ever.

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[DeadlyVenom]

After seeing the complete failure of Modi to deal with the alleged plight of Bangladeshi Hindus what you are saying seems quite likely.

The Hindus of India have failed Sanatan Dharma for centuries while it has flourished elsewhere.

It's time to hand over the reigns.

 

[Justcrazy]

Its a long post , but the question that needs to be asked , what exactly you mean by Sanatani ?

 

[Bhaijaan]

Its a long post , but the question that needs to be asked , what exactly you mean by Sanatani ?

The original religion. Basically your ancestors were Sanatani before conversion. I always say that every Pakistani Muslim must visit a temple at least once a year to pay homage to his ancestors. Ok I understand your last few generations have been Islamic but before than your entire race has Sanatani roots.

 

[Bhaijaan]

After seeing the complete failure of Modi to deal with the alleged plight of Bangladeshi Hindus what you are saying seems quite likely.

The Hindus of India have failed Sanatan Dharma for centuries while it has flourished elsewhere.

It's time to hand over the reigns.

To be honest, Sanatan Dharma is there for the betterment of the whole world. It’s a collective effort and the Easter front and Western front must work in collaboration otherwise we are not going to add any more value than Christianity and Islam.

 

[FearlessRoar]

What is Sanatan Dharma? is it different from Hinduism?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Its a long post , but the question that needs to be asked , what exactly you mean by Sanatani ?

From the looks of it, building a few temples and getting someone in the US govt administration who had Indian parents.

 

[Bhaijaan]

What is Sanatan Dharma? is it different from Hinduism?

Sanatan Dharma is the eternal truth. The foundation of Hinduism and the mother of various spiritual belief systems that originated in Ancient Mahabharata.

 

[Kriketer]

The original religion. Basically your ancestors were Sanatani before conversion. I always say that every Pakistani Muslim must visit a temple at least once a year to pay homage to his ancestors. Ok I understand your last few generations have been Islamic but before than your entire race has Sanatani roots.

Your ancestors weren't even Hindus as it was a pagan land. Just like any religion Hindusm eventually took birth as well, just happened to be in subcontinent where they were pagans before Hindus. Go back to your roots, pay homage to your ancestors atleast for a day by being not Sanghi, your entire race was not Santantani or Godi or whatever term you love describing yourselves with. As for temples in North America, ofcourse when there is sizable Hindu population then obviously having temples should be a basic need to cater to their religious needs.

And we saw those videos of Sanghi going koko in Canada while attacking Sikh with their orange flags, and many Canadian being fed up of them and asking them to be kicked out. Would you like to see it again?

 

[sweep_shot]

LOL at fortress.

"Sanatanis" are not even 2-million in number in Canada. Very small number.

Even in USA (where population is over 330-million), "Sanatanis" are less than 6 millions.

 

[JaDed]

Nothing against Sanatans but Vaishnavites are always going to be more scientific and influential.

The temples being built or maintained in US are mostly by Vaishnavites also they impart better knowledge on Hinduism.

And Arya Samaj is still very influential within India itself.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Why will any foreign nation be fortress to Sanatan? It makes no sense. USA and Canada should remain the way they are. Every country should preserve its culture.

India is the homeland of Sanatan. That is where it should be. All of its history and mythology is based on India's landmass.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Your ancestors weren't even Hindus as it was a pagan land. Just like any religion Hindusm eventually took birth as well, just happened to be in subcontinent where they were pagans before Hindus. Go back to your roots, pay homage to your ancestors atleast for a day by being not Sanghi, your entire race was not Santantani or Godi or whatever term you love describing yourselves with. As for temples in North America, ofcourse when there is sizable Hindu population then obviously having temples should be a basic need to cater to their religious needs.

And we saw those videos of Sanghi going koko in Canada while attacking Sikh with their orange flags, and many Canadian being fed up of them and asking them to be kicked out. Would you like to see it again?

Hinduism is a mix of all local cults and beliefs. What do you mean @Bhaijaan 's ancestors are not Hindus?

Every Hindu's root is Dharma and that is what they still follow till today. This is why a Hindu has no issue visiting a Sikh or Buddhist or Jain Tempe.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Nothing against Sanatans but Vaishnavites are always going to be more scientific and influential.

The temples being built or maintained in US are mostly by Vaishnavites also they impart better knowledge on Hinduism.

And Arya Samaj is still very influential within India itself.

Vaishnavites are Sanatanis too.
Why would you spread misinformation?

 

[Champ_Pal]

What is Sanatan Dharma? is it different from Hinduism?

Sanatana Dhrama encompasses all the Dharmic religoins and cults. Its sort of like Abrahamic religions.

Hinduism is not that old as it is only a front face for various beliefs that people follow. These beliefs have lot of commonalities and share common stories. This is why Buddhism, Jainism and the newest entrant Sikhism also falls under Sanatana fold. They are not Hindus, but they are Sanatanis aka followers of age old Dharmic beliefs.

These various schools of thoughts have peacefully coexisted for millennia. Sometimes fights. Most of the times, its debates. Whenever certain school of thought gets ridiculous with lots of myths creeping into it over centuries, a new school of thought always comes up to point out the lack of wisdom in the beliefs and practices. This is why no dharmic guru ever got killed in India even though they went against established beliefs in Vedas or Upanishads or Puranas etc.

Ancient Indian people were seekers. Not followers.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Sanatana Dhrama encompasses all the Dharmic religoins and cults. Its sort of like Abrahamic religions.

Hinduism is not that old as it is only a front face for various beliefs that people follow. These beliefs have lot of commonalities and share common stories. This is why Buddhism, Jainism and the newest entrant Sikhism also falls under Sanatana fold. They are not Hindus, but they are Sanatanis aka followers of age old Dharmic beliefs.

These various schools of thoughts have peacefully coexisted for millennia. Sometimes fights. Most of the times, its debates. Whenever certain school of thought gets ridiculous with lots of myths creeping into it over centuries, a new school of thought always comes up to point out the lack of wisdom in the beliefs and practices. This is why no dharmic guru ever got killed in India even though they went against established beliefs in Vedas or Upanishads or Puranas etc.

Ancient Indian people were seekers. Not followers.

Beautifully said.

The culture and heritage of our region is incredibly rich. Everyone who came here be it muslims, parsis, Jews found home.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Sanatana Dhrama encompasses all the Dharmic religoins and cults. Its sort of like Abrahamic religions....
Whenever certain school of thought gets ridiculous with lots of myths creeping into it over centuries, a new school of thought always comes up to point out the lack of wisdom in the beliefs and practices. This is why no dharmic guru ever got killed in India even though they went against established beliefs in Vedas or Upanishads or Puranas etc.

Ancient Indian people were seekers. Not followers.

Isn't that also how Islam and Christianity got established in India? Do you consider that part of Dharma also?

 

[Bhaijaan]

Isn't that also how Islam and Christianity got established in India? Do you consider that part of Dharma also?

There are many reasons why Islam and Christianity are not considered Sanatani religions.

In Sanatan Dharma, divinity can manifest in multiple forms, including both the immanent and transcendent, which allows for the worship of many deities while ultimately acknowledging one reality.

Also, Sanatan Dharma perceives time as cyclical, with the concepts of rebirth and cycles of creation, preservation, and destruction. Islam and Christianity, however, view time as linear, with a defined beginning, an end, and a single life followed by eternal reward or punishment.

There are more fundamental differences between Sanatan and Abrahamic religions but you get the drift.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Having said that, this thread is not aimed at proving superiority of any religion over another so I request posters to kindly respect the religious sensitivities of all fellow posters who maybe from various religions.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

There are many reasons why Islam and Christianity are not considered Sanatani religions.

In Sanatan Dharma, divinity can manifest in multiple forms, including both the immanent and transcendent, which allows for the worship of many deities while ultimately acknowledging one reality.

Also, Sanatan Dharma perceives time as cyclical, with the concepts of rebirth and cycles of creation, preservation, and destruction. Islam and Christianity, however, view time as linear, with a defined beginning, an end, and a single life followed by eternal reward or punishment.

There are more fundamental differences between Sanatan and Abrahamic religions but you get the drift.

But surely Dharma has to include Abrahamic beliefs as well as they are part of the dharma as well?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Its a long post , but the question that needs to be asked , what exactly you mean by Sanatani ?

It’s a term often used by 'andhbhakts' to signal unity and claim they are under the same ideological umbrella. However, most of them who call themselves Sanatanis have no real understanding of the term or its meaning.

I once asked one of them here to explain what it means to be a Sanatani. Do Sanatanis eat eggs and meat? If they do, then who are the ones who strictly avoid even onions? Do they consume alcohol? And what about marriage? Are true Sanatanis supposed to marry, or remain unmarried for their entire lives?

I would like to ask a true sanatani like @Bhaijaan to answer all these questions. I am waiting.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Having said that, this thread is not aimed at proving superiority of any religion over another so I request posters to kindly respect the religious sensitivities of all fellow posters who maybe from various religions.

Exactly. I want to educate myself about Sanatan Dharma. Kindly answer all my questions in post #21.

 

[Bhaijaan]

But surely Dharma has to include Abrahamic beliefs as well as they are part of the dharma as well?

If you see it that way then an arguement could be made for Islamic Sufism being closest to Sanatani roots.
However Sufism itself has been forgotten and sidelined by conservative muslims.

 

[Justcrazy]

The original religion. Basically your ancestors were Sanatani before conversion. I always say that every Pakistani Muslim must visit a temple at least once a year to pay homage to his ancestors. Ok I understand your last few generations have been Islamic but before than your entire race has Sanatani roots.

My ancestors believed earth was flat , so should I believe the same?

So if sanatani is original religion and you are proud of that , and want others for example Christians and Muslims to follow that , why you all do not follow that first , because when we talk about your source , you say these are not required to be followed , we can be an atheist and still be a sanatani ?

 

[Justcrazy]

Sanatana Dhrama encompasses all the Dharmic religoins and cults. Its sort of like Abrahamic religions.

Hinduism is not that old as it is only a front face for various beliefs that people follow. These beliefs have lot of commonalities and share common stories. This is why Buddhism, Jainism and the newest entrant Sikhism also falls under Sanatana fold. They are not Hindus, but they are Sanatanis aka followers of age old Dharmic beliefs.

These various schools of thoughts have peacefully coexisted for millennia. Sometimes fights. Most of the times, its debates. Whenever certain school of thought gets ridiculous with lots of myths creeping into it over centuries, a new school of thought always comes up to point out the lack of wisdom in the beliefs and practices. This is why no dharmic guru ever got killed in India even though they went against established beliefs in Vedas or Upanishads or Puranas etc.

Ancient Indian people were seekers. Not followers.

I do not agree with you.

The sanatan and hindu are the same thing . Yes Bhuddism , Jainism etc are different.
The source of sanatan is Hinduism , without which which there is Nothing called sanatan.

 

[Justcrazy]

If you see it that way then an arguement could be made for Islamic Sufism being closest to Sanatani roots.
However Sufism itself has been forgotten and sidelined by conservative muslims.

In Islam the evidence is only Quran and Authentic hadeeth. Even if a companion who saw the prophet acts against that , it is no evidence.

You are talking about sufism. There was Nothing called sufism during time of prophet. It is an innovation of latter people. If there was any such path , Prophet would have informed us.

If someone says he is sufi and teaches something , we need to judge it in the light of quran and hadeeth.

 

[Hitman]

After seeing the complete failure of Modi to deal with the alleged plight of Bangladeshi Hindus what you are saying seems quite likely.

The Hindus of India have failed Sanatan Dharma for centuries while it has flourished elsewhere.

It's time to hand over the reigns.

What has the only Islamic nuclear powered county's contribution been towards Palestine so far?

 

[Champ_Pal]

I do not agree with you.

The sanatan and hindu are the same thing . Yes Bhuddism , Jainism etc are different.
The source of sanatan is Hinduism , without which which there is Nothing called sanatan.

Modern Hinduism we see today is younger than Islam and you are saying Sanatana Dharma is derived from Hinduism.
The word Hindu is not mentioned in Vedas or Upanishads or Greta or Rayamayana or Puranas. But you are saying Sanatana Dharma is derived from Hinduism. The word Hindu and Hinduism is a foreign word given by Freeks, Arabs and Persians.


This is like saying Judaism and Christianity are derived from Islam.

 

[Kriketer]

Hinduism is a mix of all local cults and beliefs. What do you mean @Bhaijaan 's ancestors are not Hindus?

Every Hindu's root is Dharma and that is what they still follow till today. This is why a Hindu has no issue visiting a Sikh or Buddhist or Jain Tempe.

Not the point. It was a pagan land before Dharma or Hindusm or sanatan etc. There was NO Hindusm before in India and it took "birth" in it just like other religion which came there later. Bhaijaan real roots are of pagans for thousands of years even before Hinduism took birth

 

[Champ_Pal]

Not the point. It was a pagan land before Dharma or Hindusm or sanatan etc. There was NO Hindusm before in India and it took "birth" in it just like other religion which came there later. Bhaijaan real roots are of pagans for thousands of years even before Hinduism took birth

Sanatana Dharma does not have a Prophet that started the religion.

There was Vedic religion, Shiva cult, Shakti cult and then there were Shramanic cults like Buddhism, Jainism, Ajivakas etc. Then there are other cults like Naga Cult which was followed by masses. All of these schools of thought believe in establishment of Dharma, believed in Reincarnation and Rebirth. All these Dharmic cults together are called Sanatana Dharma. Sikhism that came in 16th century is a late entrant.

You can call Vedic religion with its many Gods and Shramanic cults with no God as Pagans. These are the original beliefs and schools of thought in Indian subcontinent.

There is no birth of Hinduism as it is just a modern face of the old cults. Hinduism does not have a single Prophet or a wise man in it who can be pin pointed as the originator of the religion. You are looking at world religions from the lens of Islam.

 

[JaDed]

Vaishnavites are Sanatanis too.
Why would you spread misinformation?

That’s because that’s only the belief of Sanatnis and not everyone.

Most Vaishnavites will prefer the term Hinduism than Sanatanis as the umbrellla , Dharmic is good too.

 

[bk19xsa]

The Aryan invasion into the Indian subcontinent around 1500 BCE brought people from the Eastern European and Central Asian Steppes, corresponding to modern day Ukraine, Russia, and Kazakhstan. With them, they introduced Vedic culture and the Sanskrit language.

By this time, the Indus Valley Civilization had already declined. Small remnants of its urban settlements existed in regions to the east of Punjab and Sindh.

The Aryans expanded their presence in the north and east of the Indus region and eventually engaged in conflicts with the indigenous populations, including the Dravidians in the south of present-day India.

The displacement of people and the blending of different cultures led to the emergence of Sanatan Dharma. Over time, it evolved naturally, incorporating aspects of indigenous tribal traditions, Dravidian cultural practices, and Aryan Vedic rituals.

 

[Bhaijaan]

The Aryan invasion into the Indian subcontinent around 1500 BCE brought people from the Eastern European and Central Asian Steppes, corresponding to modern day Ukraine, Russia, and Kazakhstan. With them, they introduced Vedic culture and the Sanskrit language.

By this time, the Indus Valley Civilization had already declined. Small remnants of its urban settlements existed in regions to the east of Punjab and Sindh.

The Aryans expanded their presence in the north and east of the Indus region and eventually engaged in conflicts with the indigenous populations, including the Dravidians in the south of present-day India.

The displacement of people and the blending of different cultures led to the emergence of Sanatan Dharma. Over time, it evolved naturally, incorporating aspects of indigenous tribal traditions, Dravidian cultural practices, and Aryan Vedic rituals.

Dravidian culture is a pillar of Sanatan Dharma. All of us in the north look at Dravidians as real Sanatanis and feel inspired by them. I think there are elements out there who try to create a divide not knowing the level of camaraderie between our people. South Bharatiyas have never been shy of admiring the good things in North and vice versa.

 

[Bhaijaan]

That’s because that’s only the belief of Sanatnis and not everyone.

Most Vaishnavites will prefer the term Hinduism than Sanatanis as the umbrellla , Dharmic is good too.

Respectfully, that’s your personal opinion. Sanatan Dharma has never dictated anything on indigenous people practicing their age old traditions. If it did how would it be any different from Abrahamic religions? You may share your personal experience, were you ever discouraged from practising your local traditions by Sanatan? In fact I m guessing you wouod be often be surrounded by Sanatanis in practicing your faith. Our idea of life, spirituality and Bhagwaan is common.

 

[Bhaijaan]

I’m from Punjab and we have tradition of sikhs and hindus visiting each others religious places. Historically even more so in fact my elders tel me and is backed by historical evidences that gurudwaras used to have idols and paintings of Sanatani Bhagwaans and in many temples the paintings of Sikh gurus like Nanak and Gobind were common. Some of the Sikh gurus even had names after Sanatani bhagwaans.

We all know how the British gradually sowed seeds of differences between various sects of Sanatanis over a couple of centuries to divide this nation and create never needing disputes and arguements.

 

[Justcrazy]

Modern Hinduism we see today is younger than Islam and you are saying Sanatana Dharma is derived from Hinduism.
The word Hindu is not mentioned in Vedas or Upanishads or Greta or Rayamayana or Puranas. But you are saying Sanatana Dharma is derived from Hinduism. The word Hindu and Hinduism is a foreign word given by Freeks, Arabs and Persians.


This is like saying Judaism and Christianity are derived from Islam.

I understand the word Hindu is not mentioned in scriptures. I am talking in common Parlance. In Constitution also the term Hindu has been used, and in several other official documents.

The sanatan uses the same sources as Hindus do. There is No difference.
It is same set of beliefs as well.

Linguistically sanatan means eternal.

 

[Technics 1210]

Not the point. It was a pagan land before Dharma or Hindusm or sanatan etc. There was NO Hindusm before in India and it took "birth" in it just like other religion which came there later. Bhaijaan real roots are of pagans for thousands of years even before Hinduism took birth

Most people don't realise that Hinduism is an offshoot off Brahmanism. Hinduism took paganism to the next level with Neo-Hinduism, which ended up promoting ludicrous beliefs such as Life came from nothing, Homosexuality is normal, and the role of a woman in society (forget Sati, just remind yourself of what the British said when they first viewed the temples in India).

This is why Hinduism never dominated/influenced the world they way any ideology should have given 1000s head start, even Buddhism distances itself from Hinduism.

Throughout 5000 years of history, Hinduism has never given rise to anything but segregation, discrimination, and humiliation (especially on women).

Now, Hindutva is the new face of Hinduism and we have silos in India trying to distant themselves by chiming in with phrases like Sanatani and what not.

Ever wonder why India was left contained then put on the map by Islam and the British? Cos they achieved something that Hinduism never could - unity and intellect.

 

[Hitman]

Ever wonder why India was left contained then put on the map by Islam and the British? Cos they achieved something that Hinduism never could - unity and intellect.

Islam and intellect don't go hand in hand.

 

[Hitman]

Ever wonder why India was left contained then put on the map by Islam and the British? Cos they achieved something that Hinduism never could - unity and intellect.

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[Champ_Pal]

I understand the word Hindu is not mentioned in scriptures. I am talking in common Parlance. In Constitution also the term Hindu has been used, and in several other official documents.

The sanatan uses the same sources as Hindus do. There is No difference.
It is same set of beliefs as well.

Linguistically sanatan means eternal.

Hinduism does not encompass Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism.

Sanatan Dharma includes all the above 3 mentioned and some more cults that are now pretty much extinct.

Constitution is only 80 yrs old. Of course it uses the word Hindu to distinguish a certain group of people from other groups like Sikh, Jain and Buddhist.

 

[Bhaijaan]

In Layman language Sanatan Dharma is Marvel Universe while Abrahamic faiths are DC Universe.

Hinduism can be considered X-Men subuniverse within the Marvel universe.

 

[Suleiman]

The logic of “because my ancestors followed xyz religion, so will I” being a source of pride makes no sense and never will.

If your ancestors worshipped cows, monkeys and elephants, they were wrong and so are you.

 

[Bhaijaan]

The logic of “because my ancestors followed xyz religion, so will I” being a source of pride makes no sense and never will.

If your ancestors worshipped cows, monkeys and elephants, they were wrong and so are you.

There is life beyond a myopic view of right and wrong. A great man doesn’t insult and ridicule someone else’s belief but tries to see it from their perspective. The world wasn’t that bad when our ancestors lived.

 

[RexRex]

When sanatanis make India a first world country, they can thump their chest in pride. Right now their homeland is a chaotic mess ruled by an autocrat.

 

[Bhaijaan]

When sanatanis make India a first world country, they can thump their chest in pride. Right now their homeland is a chaotic mess ruled by an autocrat.

When it comes to Dharma, we must adopt worldwide view. This is above borders brother. This is the last hope to undo the damage done by Kaliyuga.

 

[Champ_Pal]

The logic of “because my ancestors followed xyz religion, so will I” being a source of pride makes no sense and never will.

If your ancestors worshipped cows, monkeys and elephants, they were wrong and so are you.

Does it matter who you pray to when the fact is prayers mean nothing.

If prayers have any real effect, the world will be peaceful and there will be no wars.

 

[Champ_Pal]

The way Canada is going, I can see Ontario becoming the fortress of Khalistan

 

[rpant_gabba]

Honestly, why is anyone responding this stirring OP?

 

[Justcrazy]

Hinduism does not encompass Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism.

Sanatan Dharma includes all the above 3 mentioned and some more cults that are now pretty much extinct.

Constitution is only 80 yrs old. Of course it uses the word Hindu to distinguish a certain group of people from other groups like Sikh, Jain and Buddhist.

I gave example of constitution because I wanted to show in common parlance Hindu term is used.

Sanatan Dharm is based on Vedas , Hinduism is also based on vedas, source is same .

Also , Concept of God is different in Hinduism , Bhuddism , etc . This is fundamental thing ( concept of God ) , how can they be same ?

 

[Champ_Pal]

I gave example of constitution because I wanted to show in common parlance Hindu term is used.

Sanatan Dharm is based on Vedas , Hinduism is also based on vedas, source is same .

Also , Concept of God is different in Hinduism , Bhuddism , etc . This is fundamental thing ( concept of God ) , how can they be same ?

Sanatan Dharma is based on Dharma aka Duties and laws. It is not a religion name.

Vedic religion is based on Vedas. It was the religion of Northwest part of India. It has Vedic Deities. Pure form of Brahminical religion. It shares a lot with old Persian religion Mithraism and Zoroastrianism.

Hinduism = Vedic religion + Shaivism + Shaktism + Vaishnavism + Yaksha (natural spirits) cult. Started after Gupta Period in 5th century and picked up pace post Islamic invasion and Shankaracharya (7th Century) & Madhvacharya (12th century).

Hinduism does not worship Vedic deities. They worship mainland deities like Shiva, Shakti, Vishnu(Avatars like Rama, Krishna). The Goal is to attain Moksha and break the cycle of reincarnation aka rebirth.

Buddhism = No God. But they follow set laws of Buddha to attain Nirvana(Moksha) and break the cycle of reincarnation.

Jainism = No God. But they again follow divine beings and follow the path set by Mahavira to attain Moksha and break the cycle of reincarnation.

Jainism and Hinduism has common deities like Ashta Dikpalas (Guardians of Directions) and Yakshas. Some Jains worship Hindu deities.

Buddhism and Hinduism has common deities like Lakshmi, Ganesh, Saraswati and Yakshas.

All 3 religions Jainism + Hinduism + Buddhism believe in Yakshas. They feature in all 3 of their places of worship. They are guardians of the temples of all 3 religions. Sikhism rejects Yakshas.

Hinduism has accepted Vedas. But some sects of Hindus still reject Vedas. They follow the teachings of their Gurus.

India is a land of seekers. Not followers. There were many great men who walked that land and set their own path. It is up to the person and his choice to follow whatever he/she chooses. Santana Dharma covers all Dharmic religions.

Sikhism is the latest entrant into the Dharma fold. They rejected Vedas like Buddhism & Jainism. They also rejected multiplicity of Gods(Hinduism) and nature worship(Yakshas). Sikhs believe that Gods like Shiva or Vishnu or many of their Avatars like Rama, Krishna, Kali are all incarnations of one supreme God Waheguru.
Basically Sikhs respect Hindu Gods as incarnations of their God Waheguru. They do not consider Hindu Gods as separate Gods. They also accept Buddha as a spiritual teacher.
Sikhism is massively inspired by Islam and other Abrahamic faiths when it comes to how they view God. Sikhism unified all Gods of Sanatana Dharma into one God Waheguru. Of course, like Buddhism and Jainism, they also rejected the Brahminical rituals of Hinduism. There are mentions of all Hindu Gods in Sikh holy book Grandhsaheb as mere aspects of one God Waheguru.

I consider each religion and cult as schools of thought which eventually evolved into separate religions. They have too much in common to draw hard lines between them. Some are trying to do it. But they will never succeed. They are too intertwined.

 

[rpant_gabba]

When sanatanis make India a first world country, they can thump their chest in pride. Right now their homeland is a chaotic mess ruled by an autocrat.

Yeah becos the fairy tales were one believes in is what determines the economic situation of the country

 

[Champ_Pal]

When sanatanis make India a first world country, they can thump their chest in pride. Right now their homeland is a chaotic mess ruled by an autocrat.

Every country goes through chaos before order sets in.

India is on the path to becoming first world. It takes time. But it will get there. It’s not easy to drag a population of 1.5 billion into first world.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Every country goes through chaos before order sets in.

India is on the path to becoming first world. It takes time. But it will get there. It’s not easy to drag a population of 1.5 billion into first world.

Someone sent me a Goldman Sachs prediction that Pakistan will be the 6th leading economy by 2075. Always easy to project rosy scenarios off in some projected utopia. Reality is India and Pakistan living standards are roughly equal right now.

 

[amax]

Ever wondered what intellect really is like? Read below


Population of Jews in the world - 15.7 million

Population of Muslims in the world - 1.9 billion


Number of Jewish Nobel Laureates till date - 207

Number of Muslim Nobel Laureates till date - 6


P.S. I'm not including Peace Prize winners.


This is what you call proper intellect, unlike the ability and talent to successfully conduct terrorist attacks in foreign countries, or beheading people.​

Jews are Abrahamic , whats santani count of noble prize? with similar popualtion to muslims and christians.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Jews are Abrahamic , whats santani count of noble prize? with similar popualtion to muslims and christians.

Noble prize has been around when Sanatanis were emerging from poverty mostly while the Europeans and Americans who looted wealth and resources for centuries were at their height of their civilisation. You call that a fair comparison? Don’t worry about all that. Let’s talk about scientific achievements after another century.

 

[Hitman]

Jews are Abrahamic , whats santani count of noble prize? with similar popualtion to muslims and christians.

I brought in Jews because of the Israel factor. Just have a look where Muslims stand compared to Jews, keeping in mind their population.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Someone sent me a Goldman Sachs prediction that Pakistan will be the 6th leading economy by 2075. Always easy to project rosy scenarios off in some projected utopia. Reality is India and Pakistan living standards are roughly equal right now.

Pakistan has the population and resources to become a regional power. As of now, they got their priorities wrong.
May be some messiah will come and drag Pakistan out of chaos and into modernity. 2070 is 45 yrs from now. A lot can happen.

World is moving towards Artificial Intelligence and who ever unlocks Super Intelligence first will have the world at their feet. USA and China are clear leaders in it.

 

[Bhaijaan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1863074736361623708

 

[Bhaijaan]

The new FBI Chief and the Sword of Sanatan

https://twitter.com/x/status/1863018850607841513

https://twitter.com/x/status/1863028015917101322