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"Sarfaraz Ahmed is not a good wicket-keeper" : Ramiz Raja

Abdullah719 said:
This thread is huge because he was very poor for a few years with his wicket-keeping. You'll notice 12 of the 13 pages are from pre-2017.

He improved after becoming the captain.



Because I have used my eyes and to my eyes, he has done a good job over the past year or so. You're entitled to argue objectively, but I don't think 'ifs' fit the criteria.
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Yes he has done the simple things well. You don't think other keepers in domestic cricket are capable of that plus increasing the batting numbers?

In your opinion it doesn't fit the criteria.
 
Abdullah719 said:
This thread is huge because he was very poor for a few years with his wicket-keeping....
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He may have had a small purple patch, or never tested enough during this time.

The kind of keeping he's doing now, someone like Umar can also match that.
 
2 extremely poor pieces of keeping that cost his team 5 runs.

He looks lethargic and flat out there.

If I was looking to my captain for inspiration, I wouldn't see it in Sarfaraz at the moment.
 
Hasan123 said:
Yes he has done the simple things well. You don't think other keepers in domestic cricket are capable of that plus increasing the batting numbers?

In your opinion it doesn't fit the criteria.
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Yeah exactly this. Poor posting from [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION]

The likes of Rizwan and Abid can bat better than specialist captain and can do the job behind the stumps

Need to sack Sarfaraz asap after the world cup
 
Rifaqat said:
Yeah exactly this. Poor posting from [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION]

The likes of Rizwan and Abid can bat better than specialist captain and can do the job behind the stumps

Need to sack Sarfaraz asap after the world cup
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If we don't get to the semis he will be sacked.
 
Rifaqat said:
Yeah exactly this. Poor posting from [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION]

The likes of Rizwan and Abid can bat better than specialist captain and can do the job behind the stumps

Need to sack Sarfaraz asap after the world cup
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Rizwan had dramatically improved his wicket-keeping and I thought he was easily better than Sarfaraz, but when he returned to the Pakistan XI it was plainly obvious that wasn't the case.

Abid is not a regular wicket-keeper.

This thread is about wicket-keeping so I'm talking about wicket-keeping, not batting or leadership.
 
Poor day with the gloves. Dropped Moeen who could have hurt us badly. And Butler catch went flying to his right which he didn't dive for. Wahab spell saved him otherwise he had a shocker game behind thr stumps as well as captaincy was ordinary allowing Butler to settle in by bowling Malik and Hafeez.
 
MRSN said:
Poor day with the gloves. Dropped Moeen who could have hurt us badly. And Butler catch went flying to his right which he didn't dive for. Wahab spell saved him otherwise he had a shocker game behind thr stumps as well as captaincy was ordinary allowing Butler to settle in by bowling Malik and Hafeez.
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This is why Shoaib Akhtar had every right to point out his belly. As a result, he’s clearly not agile enough to go for those chances.
 
When Rizwan made a mistake his whole performance was called crap by the Sarfraz fan club. They will go into hiding on this thread .

He does the basics well . He doesn't do anything out of the ordinary like other keepers are capable of which can change matches.
 
He had a crappy day overall.. Looked completely our of sorts woth the bat, i can remember atleast 4 occasions when skied the ball only to drop in no mans land.
He shouldve atleast made an attempt at that butler chance.
 
topspin said:
This is why Shoaib Akhtar had every right to point out his belly. As a result, he’s clearly not agile enough to go for those chances.
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There was a top edge off Moeen which fell in front of him and boy he looked in ugly shape running towards that catch and at the end couldn't dive which was needed to grsb that. Sarfraz has definitely gone worse with his fitness. Saw him denying 2nd run because he was huffing and puffing.
 
MRSN said:
There was a top edge off Moeen which fell in front of him and boy he looked in ugly shape running towards that catch and at the end couldn't dive which was needed to grsb that. Sarfraz has definitely gone worse with his fitness. Saw him denying 2nd run because he was huffing and puffing.
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Stop making crap up, it was in fact Hafeez who couldn't run and Naseer Hussain even called it on the air.
 
Grunge101 said:
He had a crappy day overall.. Looked completely our of sorts woth the bat, i can remember atleast 4 occasions when skied the ball only to drop in no mans land.
He shouldve atleast made an attempt at that butler chance.
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They landed in no mans land, because he hit them deliberately in the open spaces...

I'll take his 55 at 125 SR over merit-killer Imam's 44 at 70 SR any day of the week.

His 55 was certainly difference that carried Pakistan over to the winning total. Without which team would have definitely lost.

Only extreme haters would call his performance today crappy.
 
Zhasan said:
They landed in no mans land, because he hit them deliberately in the open spaces...

I'll take his 55 at 125 SR over merit-killer Imam's 44 at 70 SR any day of the week.

His 55 was certainly difference that carried Pakistan over to the winning total. Without which team would have definitely lost.

Only extreme haters would call his performance today crappy.
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Hit them deliberately in open spaces?... We were watching very different matches today then. He was very lucky to get to that half century.

He was lazy behind the stumps, missed on clear chance and should have atleast dived at the second one.

It was also pretty clear he was turning down 2's in the latter of the innings... IIRC it was Ramiz who blatantly pointed it out too
 
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If I am being brutally honest here, Safaraz and Malik’s batting at the end of Pak’s innings almost cost us the match.

Safaraz only middled one ball after facing 40 odd balls and thats how frustrating his innings was.

I know on paper he scored 55 off 44 balls (thanks to an overthrow which gave him 4 runs), but only those would understand my frustration who watched the game live and saw every single ball which Sarfraz played.
 
gazza619 said:
If I am being brutally honest here, Safaraz and Malik’s batting at the end of Pak’s innings almost cost us the match.

Safaraz only middled one ball after facing 40 odd balls and thats how frustrating his innings was.

I know on paper he scored 55 off 44 balls (thanks to an overthrow which gave him 4 runs), but only those would understand my frustration who watched the game live and saw every single ball which Sarfraz played.
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Difficult to expect much from Sarfaraz when it comes to finishing strong though; he just doesn't have that skill set. This is the primary reason people want him to bat at #4. His innings today was "okay" but yes you're right, his frustration was quite visible as he let out a "AARGH" each time he missed the ball. Still, it was a good outing for him with the bat and hopefully he can build on this.

Behind the stumps he had a forgettable day, mainly due to the missed stumping of Moeen which could have been horrible for us. I don't think he will get better at keeping during this tournament but he can certainly take positives from his batting today and build on that.
 
MRSN said:
Poor day with the gloves. Dropped Moeen who could have hurt us badly. And Butler catch went flying to his right which he didn't dive for. Wahab spell saved him otherwise he had a shocker game behind thr stumps as well as captaincy was ordinary allowing Butler to settle in by bowling Malik and Hafeez.
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Stop this.
He took an excellent catch of Malik's bowling.
Moeen's chance was not really a chance. Any keeper in the world wouldn't be able to catch that 9 times out of ten as it took a deflection off his leg as well.
The buttler "catch". Was that a catch? It was too far off.
Stop this hate and support the captain.
He played a crucial knock and kept well.
 
gazza619 said:
If I am being brutally honest here, Safaraz and Malik’s batting at the end of Pak’s innings almost cost us the match.

Safaraz only middled one ball after facing 40 odd balls and thats how frustrating his innings was.

I know on paper he scored 55 off 44 balls (thanks to an overthrow which gave him 4 runs), but only those would understand my frustration who watched the game live and saw every single ball which Sarfraz played.
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I watched every ball of Pakistan's innings and yes Sarfaraz's innings was very frustrating, not fluent at all, but you'd take 55 off 44 from him wouldn't you? 55 runs is 55 runs regardless of how they come so you can't say that it cost them the match just because he only middled 1 ball. If he scored 55 off 44 and it was a more fluent innings would it still have cost us the match? As that's what it seems like you're saying.
 
And ramiz was a technically sound batsman, not surprised Rambo has a certain fetish for Akmal brethren :facepalm:
Serfraz is the best possible keeper and captain in the country
 
Dropped and missed stumping of Moeen last game. And dropped finch yesterday. Kamran Akmal had butter fingers but this guy who keeps spilling opportunities every game is touted as a good wk.
 
Kianig89 said:
And ramiz was a technically sound batsman, not surprised Rambo has a certain fetish for Akmal brethren :facepalm:
Serfraz is the best possible keeper and captain in the country
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Really? Pakistan should abandon playing international cricket if this mediocre is the best we have.
 
MRSN said:
Dropped and missed stumping of Moeen last game. And dropped finch yesterday. Kamran Akmal had butter fingers but this guy who keeps spilling opportunities every game is touted as a good wk.
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MRSN said:
Dropped and missed stumping of Moeen last game. And dropped finch yesterday. Kamran Akmal had butter fingers but this guy who keeps spilling opportunities every game is touted as a good wk.
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His fans are hilarious. They say he is keeping well but has made mistakes recently.

When Rizwan was keeping against Australia he made a mistake and his fans were trying to sell the idea he kept badly despite making 1 mistake.

These Sarfraz fans have no shame. Cannot wait till he is booted out.
 
Tbh Sarfaraz has made quite a few mistakes in terms of keeping. Rizwan will come in after WC anyway.
 
THe only reason why sarfraz is in the team is because of the captaincy tag. nothing else
 
Sunny_majoka said:
He is not better captain either
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exactly, but because he won a champions trophy, we cant do anything.

i was surprised that he let Hasana nd Wahab hit, and didnt once go up to them to stop them and take more charge of the batting and score runs.
 
Major said:
exactly, but because he won a champions trophy, we cant do anything.

i was surprised that he let Hasana nd Wahab hit, and didnt once go up to them to stop them and take more charge of the batting and score runs.
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nothing surprise here.he himself knew that if he can't clear the boundary. he don't has ingredients to become finisher like dhoni , buttler or even carry . even new cricket fan can tell this..
 
Dropped Van der dussen. This is when fitness comes into play. He could nevee catch that with that belly.
 
he took a decent catch of Faf so not all that bad. Look at the rest of the fielding too
 
He is not a great batsman and his wicket keeping is also mediocre at best as well as his field set as a captain. We need to find a replacement soon.
 
Its easy to say he is poor, however who do we have who is better, Mohammed rizwan is better in this aspect however, his batting is inconsistent and he's not a great captain.

With sarfaraz is that he is still a good captain and if he goes - who will be the captain as hafeez and malik need to asap. With sarfaraz gone - the team is too young in terms of maturity in games played at international level - babar azam is too young and needs to be groomed as future captain when he is in his prime - only give him captaincy if he is INTELLIGENT ENOUGH.
 
He was pretty poor as a keeper not only missed a catch but when David Miller was almost half down the crease, the guy didn't even try run him out instead passed the ball, needs to be always in the game, concentration level has not been great.
 
He deserves credit for that catch. But he has been crap for a couple of years so let's not act like he is perfect.
 
Sarfi causing problem for a lot of people.. giving them headache... He been brilliant on the field and behind the stumps...:sarf:salute:salute
 
Plumb said:
Sarfi causing problem for a lot of people.. giving them headache... He been brilliant on the field and behind the stumps...:sarf:salute:salute
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Some people had heart attack when Sarf took that catch :))
 
MenInG said:
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That’s as regulation as it comes to WK man!!! Sarfraz is bottom heavy, slow in reflex and extremely flat feet, hence he had to dive & grab one handed something going left of 1st slip!!!!

Come on, he did well not to drop it after crashing on to ground but keepers don’t dive, neither gather these catches one handed. Also, it was a left-tamer bowling over the wicket to a right hander - natural angle takes it to first slip and it’s the easiest catch for WKs......... still he had to dive at full stress!!!!!

The amount of praise I see actually tells the expectations from Sarfraz. Williamson’s catch was far more difficult.
 
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Sarfraz is a poor batsman but he's sometimes criticized unnecessarily for his wicket-keeping. He's overall a safe keeper, far better than Kamran Akmal who could not hold on to even regulation catches.
 
Latham dropped babar and paid the price
Keeping wasn’t so easy here , Sarfraz kept brilliantly tonpace and spin
 
Took an absolute blinder to get rid of Ross Taylor (Thank Heavens) but Saifi's keeping has been rather shoddy in the last 8-10 months, I suppose its the pressure of captaincy and bowling/field changes also at the back of his mind
 
The_Odd_One said:
Sarfraz is a poor batsman but he's sometimes criticized unnecessarily for his wicket-keeping. He's overall a safe keeper, far better than Kamran Akmal who could not hold on to even regulation catches.
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Expect MMHS bhai to lecture you on how much of a better batsman and natural keeper Kami is compared to sarfraz.
He’ll then end his lecture with a philosophical spin and make you believe had others with the eye for talent like himself been in charge Kamran would have changed the world.

Fact is Sarfraz was never considered the best wicket keeper and batsman in Pakistan but he’s delivered more often than the rest and hard to drop from the side. He isn’t the second coming of Healy or heck even half as good as Rashid but certainly not TRASH like Akmal sr. And jr..

Sarfraz had a good day with the gloves. Shouldn’t be overpraised but things like the Taylor catch being called regulation is pushing it.
 
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sshakir411 said:
Expect kaptaan of akmal mafia MMHS bhai to lecture you on how much of a better batsman and natural keeper Kami is compared to sarfraz.
He’ll then end his lecture with a philosophical spin and make you believe had others with the eye for talent like himself been in charge Kamran would have changed the world.

Fact is Sarfraz was never considered the best wicket keeper and batsman in Pakistan but he’s delivered more often than the rest and hard to drop from the side. He isn’t the second coming of Healy or heck even half as good as Rashid but certainly not TRASH like Akmal sr. And jr..

Sarfraz had a good day with the gloves. Shouldn’t be overpraised but things like the Taylor catch being called regulation is pushing it.
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Once said current Rashid Latif would be a better wicket keeper :))
 
So many people within this thread have on other threads claimed that Sarfraz was better option to keep for national team that rizwan.

now that we all have seen rizwan for almost one full international season. How many of those peoples would now say that rizwan was robbed for years, and he should have been the main keeper since 2015.

Just check out the excuses people gave about sarfraz poor keeping over last 6+ years.
 
Bouncer said:
Dean Jones just commented that he is not a terrible keeper but he tends to lose his concentration as keeper on some crucial moments against spinners.

I hope that Yasir's ball to Uppal's which he edged for 4 doesnt cost Pak the test.

Sarfaraz was no way near the ball.

DJ: Says Sarfraz looks distracted when he is out in the middle.

This is VERY bad for a keeper. Club levels keepers do not have these faults and sarfaraz is losing his concentration in the middle
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Today's missed stumping reminded me of this comment by dean jones from over 5 years ago.
 
I think Safaraz is past his expiration date. I’m not sure how hard Safaraz works at his game these days or where he is mentally but based on his body language I think he’s done as an international cricketwe. I mean forget about the missed stumping, it was awful, it was inexcusable for a professional wicketkeeper but he wasn’t catching the ball cleanly on a number of occasions and based on what Rizwan has showed us on this tour he is a far superior wicketkeeper then Safaraz. Safaraz was a good international keeper at one point but that doesn’t mean he was going to be good for a decade.
 
He was much better than the Akmal bros. He is past his prime (very small time frame) and is no longer needed for odis and tests.
 
Sarfraz wasn't amazing behind the wickets but he was serviceable. If only he continued to bat with the intent he used to bad in 2014-2016 then a lot of Test woes would have been solved for us. Unfortunately his technique got exposed in SENA, which shattered his confidence and his batting regressed as badly as it did. Part of the blame also goes to the Management and himself too for pushing him to no.7 in ODIs and t20s. He should have continued to Open and play aggressively. However it is too late now, and we need to groom alternatives in LOIs like Rohail, Azam and M Haaris.
 
Sarfaraz's lobby got him back into test team so this thread is going to be busy one more time.


Anyone got pictures or screenshots of his two missed stumpings from yesterday?
 
So he makes 86 with the bat. Costs you 150 with the gloves. Winning?
 
wrongun said:
So he makes 86 with the bat. Costs you 150 with the gloves. Winning?
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He has cost Pakistan a lot of games with his keeping but it helps that the majority of the Pakistani media folks Plus the most vocal x cricketers are from Karachi so they never bring that up.

He has had a pretty ordinary morning session this morning too.
 
Bouncer said:
Sarfaraz's lobby got him back into test team so this thread is going to be busy one more time.


Anyone got pictures or screenshots of his two missed stumpings from yesterday?
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One of them


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and one for today

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Sarfaraz looks in sleep mode. Its as if after scoring 80 odd on this flat pitch his job was done and he had signed up to play the next 10 tests for Pakistan.

Pathetic to say the least.
 
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